Jan. 2019

Bluewater Bulletin

Bluewater Model Engineering Society Sarnia, Ontario

Vol. 34 No.4 January 2019 Editor John Lovegrove

Our next meeting will be on

February 11th, 2019 @ 7:30 pm

Northern Collegiate Room 125, Indian Road, Sarnia.

The January Meeting

To give us a change in scenery the custodial staff put us in room 127 - something about working on the floor in 125.

Having settled into the new surroundings (family

studies room this time rather than French) we started with the Treasurer’s report: All is well, particularly after a few more “dues” were paid in.

Bruce started by talking about OX Tools with Tom

Lipton. (This is not to be confused with the OX Group that supplies tools to the construction industry.) He has produced a series of YouTube videos complete with a warning about not getting anything done in your own shop if you spend too much time watching them.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZC9LGZLfyjrKT

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In particular this person has produced a video on

making a sensitive micro-drilling attachment and this includes getting the operating handle made using 3D metal printing (stainless steel + bronze binder.) This was sintered afterwards to increase the strength and the final cost was only $78.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVxOmh5cj_w

Discussion then followed about whether this approach would ever become mainstream, taking over from casting or machining from solid using CNC. Powder metallurgy has been around for a long time and components can be made by pressing powdered metal into moulds then sintering afterward. The technique is only cost effective for production runs long enough to justify the cost of the tooling, whereas

3D printing makes it viable for one-offs.

When I was still working there was always discussion about the huge stock of spare parts (for pumps etc.) that one had to carry in order to keep a plant running. The possibility mooted at the time was to have a library of print files available and use 3D metal printing to make parts as needed. I wonder whether it will ever happen? My main concern is whether you can get the same strength as you do with a made from- solid part. Holding good dimensional tolerances is also an issue (alluded to in Tom’s video.)

The damper piston and view through cylinder.

Someone we get to talking about regularly is Jo “Pi”.

He now has a video about using rotary tables on a

conventional mill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQtO0VELAi8

Another person we have mentioned is “Clickspring”

from Australia. He is into clock making and this item

is about producing an attractive oxide layer on

bronze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nksb2RCNsF0

Bruce moved on to the subject of lapping: Apparently

McMaster Carr supply some very nice miniature

barrel and needle’s eye laps (1/16” upwards.) They

will not supply into Canada but KBC carry many of the

same items:

https://www.kbctools.ca/products/search/laps?v=j&fac

et=%5B%5B%22catname%22%2C%22catname%22

%2C%22Barrel%20Laps%22%5D%5D

Bruce is very much into lapping at present, one

component in particular, the damping cylinder of the

Howitzer, required this technique to finish the ID.

Laps have to be made from a fairly soft metal (to hold

the abrasive.) They also need a tapered ID and be

split along one side so that they can be expanded.

He has made a tapered reamer (D-bit) to finish the ID.

Show and Tell

Bruce brought along the parts for his Howitzer. The

damper cylinder with internal helical grooves and its

piston with corresponding external helical flights,

are

the latest items to be produced. (I wrote up quite a lot

last time about what was involved.) As mentioned

earlier he had to make up a lap to finish the cylinder

bore and below are the components of the lap along

with the tapered reamer to create the bore:

The demand valve/carburettor

Also, a while ago, he bought one of the Wholesale

Tool cutter grinders that are a Chinese knock off of a

Swiss design (I also have one.)

The band saw roller guide assembly

Quality is not thatgreat and the collet holder used for holding end millsetc. was a very sloppy fit in its housing. He re-sleevedthe housing, made internal and external lapsand went to work. The result is a really nice smoothfit between the two components.

Tony Koolen has been working on a gas carburetor

for the Perkins hit-and-miss engine he has acquired.

There are problems with the existing carburettor and

the plan is to run it on propane which should make

things easier. Because it may be of more general

interest I have put together some information on the

subject below. Running an engine on gaseous fuels

requires a gas demand valve in addition to the normal

(BBQ type) regulator and the normal arrangement is

to have a separate demand valve and carburettor.

However, Tony found plans in Edition 24 of Model

Engine Builder that essentially build the carburettor

into the demand valve and this is what he has done.

The main problem he ran into was that the drawings

called for a number 0 “O” ring to seal around the gas

control needle. He made the component, ordered the

O rings (not a common size) but when they came they

were far too small for the groove shown on the

drawing. He has now modified the design, made a

new needle and is using a larger O ring (that he

already had in stock) located further up the stem (left.)

The original needle and specially ordered O rings are

on the right.

Don Hayes has been out buying stuff again. Below is a collection of spacer pieces/blocks/parallels he has acquired.

Tony has also re-built the guider roller assembly from

his band saw. The problem was that the original

construction relied on un-machined cast components

to support the guide rolls and castings being what

they are, there was a 2-40 misalignment of the rollers

with the blade. His fabricated support assembly has

now corrected this.

When air flows through the carburetor venturi the

pressure is reduced below atmospheric (Bernoulli

effect) and with the carburettor jet connected to the

gas demand valve, as soon as the venturi pressure

goes below atmospheric, gas starts to flow. For

model engines, some kind of needle valve is required

to adjust the gas flow to get the correct mixture

strength. One significant difference is that gaseous

fuels need a larger jet size than liquid fuels.

The critical components in a gas demand valve are

the diaphragm and valve assembly. It is not really

practical to make these one’s self but nicely made

commercial parts from Tecumseh are available

through Jerry Howell’s organization. Plans are also

available and making the body for the valve is fairly

simple.

If you look at full size gas engines (there are lots at

Coolspring) they essentially all have some form of gas

demand valve. Some are quite crude with a large

inverted can dipping into a slightly larger container of

water to form a simple gasometer type pressure

sensing arrangement. Through some levers,

movement of the can then operates a normal ¼ turn

valve to control the flow of gas from the supply to the

underside of the can and the engine so that pressure

is maintained just below atmospheric.

The carburettor on my Wyvern is designed to work

with either gas or gasoline (2 separate jets.) For my

early runs I used liquid fuel but thought that I would try

propane, so I bought a kit for the demand valve and

made it up.

The engine certainly runs more cleanly on propane

(less spark plug fouling.) I also find it more

convenient at exhibitions: Just connecting up one of

those small camping size propane containers is much

simpler (and safer?) than pouring gasoline into a tank

at the start of the show and trying to remove what is

left at the end.

Using gas, it should also be possible to obtain uniform

mixture strength over a range of throttle openings. In

any carburettor, as throttle opening increases, so

does the reduction in pressure in the venturi.

Therefore, the fuel flow through the jet will increase

with the air flow through the venturi. The problem

with a liquid fuel is that the flow characteristics are

different from a gas and in fact the fuel flow increases

more rapidly than the air flow. Therefore, in a very

simple carburettor using liquid fuels the mixture

strength increases with throttle opening.

In the days when carburettors ruled, elaborate

systems were devised to overcome this effect and

give a uniform mixture strength over the operating

range but repeating these in a model carburetor is

very difficult. People have been able to develop

reasonably successful small carburettors that

Running Engines on Gas

A gas demand valve is essentially the same as a

pressure regulator: There is a diaphragm to sense

output pressure and this operates a small valve that controls the in-flow of gas. In a normal regulator, the diaphragm is spring loaded and the valve essentially lets in gas at a sufficient rate to maintain a pressure force on one side of the diaphragm equal to the spring

force on the other. Therefore, output pressure =

spring load/effective diaphragm area. The difference in the case of a demand valve is that there is no spring acting on the diaphragm so the output pressure will be very close to atmospheric. There is a small spring in the valve assembly and the force from this has to be overcome before the valve opens. This provides enough bias so that the regulated output pressure is always at or slightly below atmospheric rather than at some set value above. It also means that if the engine is not running and there is no suction, no gas flows.

overcome most of the problems but they still become

somewhat complicated. Fortunately, with a gaseous

fuel, the flow characteristics are very similar to air and

so the flow through the jet should be more in

proportion to the air flow through the venturi. On this

basis, mixture strength should remain more uniform

with throttle opening even with a very simple

carburetor design. The carburettor part of the

combined unit Tony has made is as simple as one

can get – hopefully it will work.

Alibre Atom3D

Last month I mentioned the Alibre Atom3D solid

modelling program that is available for a 6 month free

trial through Model Engineering Workshop. (A 3

month free trial is in fact available to anyone.) I did

download this to see how well it works. There are

various tutorials one can follow to get started and

these provide a good introduction. I then tried doing

something of my own from scratch (the distributor for

my Sealion) and got somewhat frustrated until I

properly understood a few more of the key concepts.

As with other 3D solid modelling systems, one starts

with a 2D drawing (sketch) but the approach needed

to create that is vastly different from the approach

used in the old AutoCad program I am used to. So

there was a significant learning curve here.

For many objects, the approach then is to “extrude”

the sketch over a specified distance to form the solid

object that can then be modified in various ways.

One of the frustrations is that one can create a 2D

sketch that looks OK but this will then not extrude and

there are no error messages to say why. Eventually

you get to understand the subtle errors that can cause

this and avoid making them. I have dabbled with

Various versions of AutoCad Fusion but not for long

enough to become competent. The basic approach to

creating components is similar in Alibre but this has

far fewer commands available. I guess this is what

you get for a $200 piece of software rather than one

that costs many times more than that (if you have to

pay for it.)

Meetings for the Rest of the Season

February 11th

March 18th (11th is March break)

April 8th

May 13th

June 10th

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John Lovegrove