Lundahl (2022w) Continues to Misrepresent My Position on Miracles
Kevin R. Henke
November 13, 2022
In Henke (2022fu), I said the following:
“In Henke (2022v), I accuse Mr. Lundahl in Lundahl (2022i) of limiting God’s omnipotence by arguing that God could not violate or break natural laws. In contrast, I stated that an omnipotent God, if he exists, could prefer to act either in accordance with natural law or by violating it through a supernatural action.
Here is how Lundahl (2022q) responds to Henke (2022v):
“Henke (2022v): “Lundahl (2022i) Limits God’s Omnipotence”
To the title : no, I do not. God arguably will be breaking a lot of "natural laws" (or rather causes, described by laws) to the pieces He made them from when making a new heaven and a new earth.”
Finally! Despite the total lack of evidence that the Book of Revelation contains any valid prophecies about a new Heaven, a new Earth or anything else, Mr. Lundahl has finally openly admitted that God could break the causes (laws) of nature if he wants to. However, God’s breaking of natural causes hypothetically does need not to be limited to scrapping the entire system to make a new Heaven and Earth as described in Revelation 21:1. That is, if God exists, he could also temporarily and locally break the causes (laws) to perform a miracle.” [my emphasis]
Lundahl (2022w) then briefly replies to my bolded paragraph and continues to erroneously misrepresent my position on miracles:
“Mr. Henke builds a lot of his case against the probability of miracles on the idea that they would break natural law. My point is, God is perfectly capable of doing miracles without breaking any actual natural laws.”
Even after I’ve repeated my position on miracles numerous times in this debate, Mr. Lundahl still doesn’t understand it. I DO NOT argue that miracles can’t occur because they would violate natural law. I’ve repeatedly stated that if God exists, he is free to violate any natural law at any time he wishes (Henke 2022y). I also stated that God could act without violating any natural laws, such as playing a pool (billiard) game in complete compliance with the laws of physics (Henke 2022t; Henke 2022u). However, I did define a miracle as a violation of natural law (Henke 2022a; Henke 2022cq). Otherwise, how would you distinguish a miracle (a supernatural act) from a clever magician’s trick? How would you distinguish a supernatural being from a mortal that has amazing skills or technologies that deceptively look supernatural? I simply do not see any evidence of miracles, but I’m open to the possibility if a miracle can be demonstrated under strict laboratory conditions (Henke 2022co).