Holding This Pandemic Life Together- 4/24/2023

Conversation Overview

Messy Conversations invites a collab with Narratives of Pain—an Antioch Seattle project started by Dr. Zain Shamoon (AUS) for sharing pain in a community context and holding supportive space for those sharing and bearing witness.

Elizabeth Lemon, Marissa Hackett, & Sara Beth Lohre will invite and hold our discussion of the enduring impact of the pandemic on our lives including space for the losses and gains, gifts and pains of our community in this new world order.

Guest Bios

Elizabeth Lemon is a recent graduate from Antioch Seattle with an MA in Couples and Family Therapy, and is finishing up a certification in the treatment of trauma through attunement and somatic integration. A long time Antioch Seattle student, she achieved her BA in Psychology in 2019. She recently started her own practice working with relational and individual clients to find agency in their own lived narratives.  Previously, she has worked part time with the International Rescue Committee on a pilot project to bring the healing power of art to re-settled Refugees and Immigrants. With a background in fine art and photojournalism, Elizabeth finds the visual arts to be a powerful medium in uplifting subjugated stories, especially when words are hard to find. Currently, she is working on a project about climate change induced trauma and grief, researching the social and cultural impacts of therapist portrayals in the media, and working with Marissa Hackett to cultivate the Seattle chapter of Narratives of Pain.

Marissa Hackett lives in Seattle and is in her second year of the Couple and Family Therapy program at Antioch University Seattle. Marissa is one of the leads of the Narratives of Pain storytelling showcase Seattle chapter. Marissa also has an extensive background in various social work and student support roles in higher education, including working with unhoused folks in Montana and providing case management to students with disabilities at UC Santa Cruz.

Sara Beth Lohre is an alum of Antioch's PsyD program, the Psychology Coordinator for Seattle Undergraduate Studies & Health Counseling Psychology, and one of the original Messy Conversations coordinators who believes that student voice across our campuses helps us to stay focused on our call to antiracist work.

Additional Resources

COVID, Isolation & Hope by Rafael Alvarado (Editor); Consuelo G. Flores (Editor); Richard Modiano (Editor)

ISBN: 9781646627707

Publication Date: 2022-02-25

“From Wang Ping’s moving story of a doctor and a COVID patient in Wuhan, to Kim Dower’s plucky courage in the face of isolation, to the music of Amélie Frank’s pantoum, this anthology is full of candor, grace, insight, and good humor. But mostly it is full of poetry, “the only form of speech we have that meets this need to acknowledge that we are more than unemployment statistics and death tolls” (Victor Infante). What but poetry to help us come to terms with how extraordinary the ordinary things in our lives have become? What but poetry to remind us that though we “shelter in space/like the stars” (Luis CuahtémocBerriozabal), “the baby still needs to be fed” (Aqueila M. Lewis-Ross). Life, for the fortunate of us, has gone on, but this historical moment will be remembered always. I am delighted that this anthology of COVID poems will be there to make sure it is remembered in all its beautiful humanity.” –Gail Wronsky

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Autistic, Surviving, and Thriving Under COVID-19: Imagining Inclusive Autistic Futures—A Zine Making ProjectThis article takes up Mia Mingus’ call to “leave evidence” of how we have lived, loved, cared, and resisted under ableist neoliberalism and necropolitics during COVID-19 . We include images of artistic work from activist zines created online during the COVID-19 pandemic and led by the Re•Storying Autism Collective. The zines evidence lived experiences of crisis and heightening systemic and intersectional injustices, as well as resistance through activist art, crip community, crip knowledges, digital research creation, and the forging of collective hope for radically inclusive autistic futures—what zine maker Emily Gillespie calls “The neurodivergent, Mad, accessible, Basic Income Revolution.” We frame the images of artistic work with a coauthored description of the Collective’s dream to create neurodivergent art, do creative research, and work for disability justice under COVID-19. The zine project was a gesture of radical hope during crisis and a dream for future possibilities infused with crip knowledges that have always been here. We contend that activist digital artmaking is a powerful way to archive, theorize, feel, resist, co-produce, and crip knowledge, and a way to dream collectively that emerged through the crisis of COVID-19. This is a new, collective, affective, and aesthetic form of evidence and call for “forgetting” ableist capitalist colonialism and Enlightenment modes of subjectivity and knowledge production that target different bodies to exploit, debilitate, and/or eliminate, and to objectify and flatten what it means to be and become human and to thrive together.


We must leave evidence. Evidence that we were here, that we existed, that we survived and loved and ached. Evidence of the wholeness we never felt and the immense sense of fullness we gave to each other. Evidence of who we were, who we thought we were, who we never should have been. Evidence for each other that there are other ways to live--past survival; past isolation.

Leaving Evidence is a blog by Mia Mingus.