Caving

When: January 14-15 2023, Saturday and Sunday
Where: 3 hours away, NE Alabama
- Camp Jackson
  2867 Co Rd 24, Scottsboro, AL 35769
  Old Rifle Range Campsite

Ranger of Camp Jackson, Duane Southers, 256-486-4682

- Tumbling Rock Cave
  3407 Co Rd 111, Fackler, AL 35746
- Limrock Blowing Cave
  Meet at Walmart, 24834 John T Reid Pkwy Scottsboro AL 35768
  (Cave is at: 34.708843, -86.182245 )
Cost: $40

$10 Caving and Camping, $10 Food, $1 Cobbler, $9 Participant Transportation, $8 Trailer, $2 Processing

Registration is Closed

Complete waivers

We will leave early Saturday to drive 3 hours non-stop. Participants will arrive at their caves (assigned based on your comfort with tight spaces; all levels of confidence will be able to enjoy caving) and given an orientation by experienced instructors. We will be underground most of the day, eating lunch within. Dinner and Sunday breakfast will be patrol based. Dinner can be simple re-heats (chili, soup) to minimize work after caving all day.

Tumbling Rock: Great cave for beginners and the more adventurous. Mostly walking and scrambling over boulders but a little bit of crawling. Lots of big rooms. Some stunning formations. There are routes for more adventurous cavers. (30 min from camp, 38 max cavers)
Limrock Blowing: Slightly more advanced caving. Cave is very wet, waist deep in some sections (half the cave). Some tight sections at the back of the cave. But wet sections aren’t tight and the tight sections aren’t wet. All are welcome but the more adventurous folks will be in this cave. For clothing, no cotton or absorbent clothing will be allowed in cave . . . wear sythentic or you won't be able to go in this cave. (25 minutes from camp, 12 max cavers)

Here is a short video of a BSA trip from January [2022]. This is a different cave than we will be going to, but it gives a good idea what everybody should expect. All small sections are optional. The small section in the video was a side trip for the folks who wanted to try it but not all participants did it. —Cave instructor Michael Taylor 2022-08-31

Photos
of caving NE Alabama 2023-01 by Oak Grove Scouting

Itinerary

All times Eastern (be aware that the cave is in Central time)

Saturday 14 Jan 2023
- 6:00a Arrive church
  (breakfast already eaten and/or while driving (no stops))
- 7:52a Sunrise
- 9:30a Arrive caves
- Lunch in cave
- 4:00p Caving ends, change clothes, travel to Camp Jackson Old Rifle Range Campsite
- 5:55p Sunset
Sunday 15
- 7:51a Sunrise
- 11:00a Depart camp
- Lunch stop (1 hr)
- 3:00p Arrive church

Camping

Camp Jackson, 2867 Co Rd 24 Scottsboro AL 35769: Old Rifle Range Campsite: Only one road in through the gate, take a left at parking lot with dumpster, road along side water to other side lake
Ranger of Camp Jackson, Duane Southers, 256-486-4682
Temperature: 29–50
Water: Yes, from kitchen
Toilets: Yes, all individual
Showers: Yes
Changing rooms: Yes
Shelter: None
Tables: 2 or 3
Fire ring: 3 (one in each campsites)
Cellular: Yes, spotty
Wifi: None

Packing list

Participants should plan for clothes and gear in 3 bags

Bag #1: Bag with gear for inside cave (see below list, "Required items for caving")

Bag #2: Garbage bag with clothes for when out of cave. This bag will be in vehicle and needs to be accessible when you exit the cave. After changing put dirty clothes in garbage bag and a label on it with your name.

Bag #3: Clothes and gear for at the campsite (see the standard packing list and the cold weather packing list. It will get cold!!

Money for lunch stop on Sunday return
Review below for additional packing requirements

Bag #1 Required items for caving

What to pack in your backpack for in the cave (Bag #1) (no string bags)
- Ziplocs, dry bag, or dry box to keep essentials dry
- 3 sources of light (at least 1 source should be a headlamp (make it a good one – the $12 lights at Walmart break down)
  - spare batteries for each light source
- water bottle (at least 32 oz)
- pee bottle (a funnel for women is helpful)
- lunch – will be eating in the cave. Consider contents of bag could get wet and will get smushed.
- personal first aid kit
In the cave you should have and will wear . . .
- helmet with chin-strap (this will be provided by the Caving Instructors)
- caving clothes
  - Synthetic (no cotton) to dry off quickly (will get wet and muddy).
  - old shoes – no sandals (boots are great but they will get very muddy and wet)
  - knee pads – $10 volleyball/soft knee pads. Avoid hard knee pads as they are hard to walk in.
  - gloves (cheap quick drying gloves)

Bag #2 - Clothes to change into

Bag #2 (Packed with clothes to change into after cave). This bag is left in a vehicle and should be easy to access after coming out of the cave)
- trash bag for dirty clothes
- complete change of clothes and shoes for after the cave
- towel to clean up
- snack

Bag #3 - Clothes and gear for campsite

Review the normal packing list and the cold weather packing list. It will get cold!!

Optional items

gloves – cloth gloves that have pvc coated palms work best (home depot carries them)
disposable camera
glow stick (Cyalume Light)

Medication

If your Scout will take any medication (over-the-counter and/or prescription) during the campout, the parent must complete this dosage form. Place the completed form and enough medication for the campout in original packaging in a Ziploc bag and write the Scout's name on the bag. Give the bag to the medical officer, Prem Kandiah, Saturday morning when assembling at OGUMC.

Medication Dispensation Log

MEALS

Everyone should bring a bagged breakfast for the drive and a packed lunch to eat inside the cave.
Grub master budget is $10/person. Patrols prepare Saturday dinner and Sunday breakfast. Adults will plan/cook as a patrol and use this same budget for their meals.
All patrols are expected to put together menus that are enjoyable, healthy, and that use their cooking skills.

Caving groups

(A) means Adult

Tumbling Rock

3407 Co Rd 111, Fackler, AL 35746

Group #1
- Borja, Sean (A)
- Iredale, Brent (A)
- Borja, Sebastian
- Crowley, Lochlan
- Fayard, Liam
- Henderson, Will
- Iredale, Thomas
- Keith, Landon
- Martin, Beckett
- Minderhout , Jack

Group #2
- Parris, Libby (A)
- Rogers, Jeff (A)
- Breier, Charlie
- Hackney, Cash
- Hunter, Charlie
- Jensen, Smith
- Parris, Zander
- Rogers, Lawson

Additional Drivers for Groups #1 and #2

- Kandiah, Prem (A)
- Shofner, Vance (A)

Tumbling Rock

3407 Co Rd 111, Fackler, AL 35746

Group #3
- Henderson, Sara (A)
- Kraft, Andrew (A)
- Barker, Reed
- Kandiah, Rohan
- Kraft, Hudson
- Parker , Lukas
- Schaffner, Caleb
- Shofner, Franklin
- Wade, Jackson

Group #4
- Sherrill, Alex (A)
- Hamner, Daks (A)
- Leff, Mitch (A)
- McCoy, Brian (A)
- Taylor, Marcus (A)
- de Wolff, Clint
- Hamner, Ryland
- Jensen, Collier
- Lowe, Parker
- McCoy, Vega
- Sherrill , Penson
- Washburn, Luke

Limrock

34.708843, -86.182245
Participants do not meet at the cave. Instead, meet at Walmart, 24834 John T Reid Pkwy Scottsboro Al 35768

Adults
- Barker, Dave (A)
- King, Bruce (A)
Youth
- Barker, Julian
- Borja, Soren
- Henderson, Sam
- King, Alex
- Osborne, Lucy
- Simpson , Bennett
- Taylor, Spencer

KEY CONTACTS

Senior Patrol Leaders
- - T77, Alex King
  - T177, Julian Barker
Trip Planner, Dave Barker, (404) 634-6955‬, dave@1.0ne.org
Trip Leader, Andrew Kraft, ‭678-778-5824, akrafty@me.com
Scoutmaster
- - T77, Sara Henderson, (678) 641-9427‬, sara_crofton@yahoo.com
  - T177, Marcus Taylor, ‭(404) 295-0428‬, marcus.taylor@gmail.com
  - Venture Crew, Mitch Leff, ‭(404) 861-4769‬, mitch@leffassociates.com

Hospital

Highlands Medical Center (between 15-30 minutes from each cave and campsite)

380 Woods Cove Rd, Scottsboro, AL 35768

(256) 259-4444

https://highlandsmedcenter.com