Harding Family Tree (Detailed)
Harding Family Tree
Contents
Introduction
For convenience, this family tree has been set out using the traditional basis of male primogeniture.
In general it is more accurate the more recent it becomes. Also information on descendants of daughters and sons other than first surviving sons is usually less reliable. There are problems due to many children being either stillborn or dying shortly after birth. Until William Secundus, the many Williams and Richards makes the precise relationships uncertain during that period.
I have used Elder and Younger for the grandfather and father of William Primus, both of whom were named Richard. Primus through to Septimus for the (first born) Williams has been used regardless as to whether those terms were actually used at the time. Sextus was registered at birth as Quintus. According to a note made by Septimus, “William Quintus Harding was found to be the Sixth Wm Harding and was therefore called William Sextus Harding about the age of 10 years and was therefore again Registered at the Library....1823 ...Certificate ?”.
There is much information in the attachments in the Peter Edden, Tamworth Historian page some of which could usefully be integrated into the text below, if and when time permits.
What is shown from William Primus onwards appears to be accurate in substance. His parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts may not be in the order shown and it is possible, for example, that William Primus is the great nephew rather than grandson of Richard the Elder. There are documents purporting to go back further but they don’t look reliable and may be forgeries. What seem certain is that in the middle to later part of the 17th century there was a blacksmith named Richard Harding who worked in Great or Little Packington.
The suggestion that the name “Harding” derives from the Forest of Arden which was close to the Packingtons may not be as fanciful as appears at first. It seems likely that up to the time of Richard Harding there would have been many generations of the family living around there since people of that class (artisan or agricultural worker) probably stayed in the same area. One document claims that the family resided in the Forest of Arden at the time of the Norman conquest and that the Doomsday book showed land in the name of Harding in the Forest of Arden, Warwickshire. In an undated letter probably from Wm Sextus (?) to his uncle Charles Harding, the former casts doubt on this and fears ridicule if Charles carries out his idea of adding details to the “stud book” – whatever that was! However, Hardings as land owners are shown in this book including in Coleshill near Tamworth, published in 1835 "Doomsday Book. County of Warwick" and stating itself to being "from the best authorities." There is a reference to Coombe Abbey as belonging to a man called Harding before the Norman Conquest
It is also clear that the family improved its lot by marriage and by working for powerful local families in the Tamworth area. Not least by marrying into the Peel family. The 2nd Sir Robert Peel was Prime Minister 1834-35 and 1841-46. Both Hardings and Peels owned banks at the same time.
The connections to Oliver Cromwell, Thomas Guy, Sir Robert Peel and the Chamberlains are well documented.
Andrew Carnegie has no family connection but the correspondence he had with Lord Ilkestone, a relation by marriage, is of some historical interest as is the Peel correspondence. This correspondence is not held anywhere else as far as I know.
1. Richard Harding the Elder ? - 1653
(Assumed Grandfather of Wm Primus). He had a brother called William who had children.
Sometimes spelt Hardinge. Dates of birth and marriage not known. Death per Proof of Will looks like 1653
3s. 1 dau 1-4
Assumed to be the Richard Harding whose will is on the Wills and Marriage Settlements page below which makes reference to his children etc. The will was signed in 1650
1.1. Richard Harding the Younger
(father of William Primus see below). He inherited the blacksmith’s business - See 2 below
1.2. William Harding
(referred to as William of Hampton in Arden in Will of Richard Jnr). 3s, 1 dau (a)-(d)
1.2.(a) Richard Harding
1.2.(b) William Harding
1.2.(c) Thomas Harding
1.2.(d) Susan Harding
1.3. Thomas Harding
1.4. Susan Harding
2. Richard Harding the Younger ? - 1682
(Assumed father of Wm Primus)
b?m?
5 sons (Per his Will dated 1681– not known what order they were born in) 1-5
2.1. Thomas Harding, Whitesmith ie tinsmith
2.2. Joseph Harding
2.3. Richard Harding (d about 1681).
1 son, 2 dau (a)-(c)
2.3.(a) 2 dau named Susan, Ann, Joann or Joanna, one of whom married William Daniell, Yeoman of Great Packington
2.3.(b) See (a)
2.3.(c) William Harding of Hampton. Will dated 27.9.1727 (to whom Richard Harding the Younger left his business if he wanted it, if not, to William, son of William of Tamworth ie William Primus), m Mary? 2 sons, 3 daus (i)-(v)
(i) William Harding
(ii) Richard Harding of Hampton in Arden. Died 1730 ie young as he made his mother, Mary (or Maria) his exor and left her 20/-
(iii) Mary Harding m Thomas Biddle
(iv) Anne Harding
(v) Joan Harding
2.4. William Harding of Tamworth ie William Primus, see 3 below
2.5. John Harding d1719 m Isabella
weaver (was sole exor of Richard Jnr). Died 1719 m Isabella. Either he was a weaver or Isabella’s family name was Weaver. 2 sons 1 dau (a)-(c)
2.5 (a) Richard Harding
2.5 (b) Joseph Harding
2.5 (c) Elizabeth Harding m Matthews
Richard Harding the Younger appeared as a party to the marriage settlement of Wm Primus and Anne Pickard so is likely to be Wm Primus’ father. That document says he was a blacksmith and was from Great Packington
Later the family lived in Hampton-in-Arden. Wm Primus Harding became a magistrate in 1668. In 1669 he was said in one document to have married Mary and gave birth to William Secundus who married the first cousin of Thomas Guy. However, William Primus’ wife is recorded to have been Anne in other documents.
In 1664 Dorothy Harding, widow of William Harding was alive per Hearth Tax returns – not clear if she was a relation as also-
In 1630 the family was said to have moved from Gt Packington to Tamworth.
Hugo Harding 1639 signatory of a parliamentary petition
Richard Harding 1618 churchwarden in Tamworth. A Richard Harding of Gt Packington is a party to William Harding’s marriage settlement of 1669
3. William Harding Primus ?-c1700 m 1669 Anne Pickard d25.12.1720
Referred to as William of Tamworth in Richard Jnr’s will
Anne Pickard was a daughter of William Pickard (Pritchard per Annette’s jottings but definitely was Pickard), yeoman. There is a marriage settlement dated 24.1.1669. In 1668 he became a magistrate and was chosen to carry the Charter of the Borough of Tamworth to London and deliver it up to James II (so presumably between 1685 and 1689). William was Church Warden in 1689 per William Quintus’ scrutiny of the register of the Tamworth Chapel in 1827. Another reference shows him as churchwarden of St Editha’s in 1688 so presumably St Editha’s was sometimes referred to as a chapel.
3s, 3dau 1-6
3.1. William Harding (now referred to as Secundus) - see 4
3.2. Richard Harding d Sept 1721. 4 sons
3.3. Anne Harding
3.4. Mary Harding
3.5. Joannah Harding.
Under 21 when will made in 1699
3.6. Thomas Harding.
Left only 4/- in father’s will
He is shown as joint Bailiff ie Mayor of Tamworth in 1677 (with Christopher Harthill) and 1688 (with Samuel Buckland)
In 1687 King James II confiscated municipal charters and “on 21 May [1687] it was ordered that William Harding should give up this charter [of Tamworth]. He accordingly carried it to London; and it was delivered to Mr Brent who had been authorized by James to receive it.” It seems that William Harding was not acceptable to James since he was not included in the remodelled corporation". In 1688, however, it returned with William Harding once more in office.
4. William Harding Secundus 1670-1722 m 1694 Anne Blood
Often referred to as William Harding blacksmith.
Born – Baptised 26.12.1670? d. 1722
Described as Ironmonger. He seems to have inherited the blacksmith’s business of his grandfather, Richard the Younger
Married 6.11.1694 Anne Blood who died before 1724, probably 25.12.1722. May have died 28.7.1722.. Anne was dau of Richard Blood (husbandman) and Johanna nee Vaughton who married in 1662. Joanna died in 1687. Johanna was an aunt of Thomas Guy (of Christ’s and Guys Hospital and MP for Tamworth from 1695 to 1705). See Thomas Guy Connection. William Tertius and his sister Anne Harding were each left £1,000 in Thomas Guy's will. In 1704, William Secundus was appraiser of goods of Richard Blood
2 Sons, 2 Dau 1-4
4.1. William Tertius Harding b 24.7.1707 [11.8.1707 per family bible] – see under 5
4.2. John Harding b 16.1.1708 [family bible says 15.?.1711
4.3. Mary Harding b 22.1.1698
4.4. Anne Harding. b15.7.1697 m Samuel Crossland.
1 dau (a)
4.4.(a) Mary Crossland
(There is also a reference to a Richard Harding 1695-1721 described in family bible as 1st son of Wm d 1721)
(There may be discrepancies of around 10 years in some dates)
5. William Tertius Harding 1707-1757 m 1738 Mary Bradburn 1708-1799
Born 1707 or 1710-1757 (1780 per one version but that must be an error)
Married Mary dau of John Bradburn of Winchester 29.5.1738. Mary was born 1708 and died 1799. Marriage 1735 was said, per family bible, to have been at the Wycham Bishop Chapel, Near Winchester.
In a document setting out his moral directions, he refers in 24.6.1757 to having 6 children [DoBs of some children may be dates of baptism as sometimes taken from church records and sometimes there seems to be a 10 year discrepancy]. Mary's Will was written in 1781,see Wills and Marriage Settlements page.
See “Cromwell Connection” section re Mary Bradburn
1 son, 5 dau 1-6 (probably wrong order). A pedigree re the Thomas Guy legacy only had Charlotte and William with Mary added in pencil
5.1 Anne Harding b 1739/40 d 21.7.1768.
There is a reference elsewhere to Anne Paget b 16.7.1739 (8.3.1739 per family bible. No mention of her in Mary Harding nee Bradburn's Will which suggests that if she existed, she bore no children that were alive in 1781.
5.2 Mary Harding b 10.6.1741 m Joseph Paget 1738-1825
(often spelt Pagett) of Loughborough. This Joseph Paget was the son of Joseph Paget and Johanna nee Alcock. Johanna was dau of Arthur Alcock and Mary nee Blood. Mary was the sister of Anne Blood who married William Secundus Harding.
4s 1dau (a)-(e)
5.2.(a) Mary Paget 1764-1840 m1 Thomas White d. Banbury 1806. He was son of (dissenting) Rev Thomas White of Derby 1717-1779 m2 1808 James Peirce 1776-1852. Mary was mentioned in Mary Harding nee Bradburn's Will. James was a buying agent for the enormous cotton and textile warehouses in Fore St, Cripplegate owned by the Strutt family.
(i) Joseph White
(ii) Anne White 1799-1866 m 1821 (cousin and brother of Mary Paget) Thomas Paget of Leicester 1797-1879, an eminent surgeon
(iii) William White 1793-1857 m (cousin) Mary Paget 1797-1882
[a] Charlotte White
(iv) Charlotte White
5.2.(b) Joseph Paget (1767-1842) m Ann Byng
5.2.(c) Thomas Paget (1768-1841) m Elizabeth Byng. 1 Son, 5 Dau (i)-(vi)
(i) Maria Paget (1808-1876) m 1837 Timothy Kenrick (1807-1885). Children incl 1 dau [a]
[a]. Florence Kenrick (1847-1875) m 1868 Rt Hon. Joseph Chamberlain (1863-1914). This was his 2nd marriage, the 1st having been to Harriet Kenrick. Children of this 2nd marriage included 1 son [i]
[i]. (Arthur) Neville Chamberlain (1869-1940) Prime Minister
(ii) Louisa Paget m Carl Frigel
(iii) Alfred Paget m Eliza Smith
(iv) Ellen Paget m J E Bowman
(v) Harriet Paget m W Bowman
(vi) Clara Paget
5.2.(d). William Paget m Mary Byng. 1 Son, 2 Dua. One of them was 1771-1846. (i)-(iii)
(i) Ann Paget (1798-1864) m Archibald Kenrick (1798-1864). He was a son of Archibald Kenrick (1769-1835). He has 4 Sons, 3 Dau [a]-[g]
[a] Emma Kenrick 1828-1914 m Capt. Howard Hutton
[b] John Arthur Kenrick 1829-1926 m Clara Taylor
[c] William Kenrick 1831-1919 m Mary Chamberlain ?d. 29.12.1918
[d] George Kenrick 1833-1901
[e] Caroline Mary Kenrick 1834-1894 spinster
[f] Harriet Kenrick 1835-1863 m 30.7.1861 Joseph Chamberlain. Harriet Kenrick was Joseph Chamberlain’s 1st wife. After she died, he married in 1868 her cousin Florence Kenrick. Hariet and Joseph’s had 1 sons, 1 dau [i]-[ii]
[i]. Beatrice Mary Chamberlain 1862-1918
[ii]. Joseph Austen Chamberlain 1863-1937 m Ivy Muriel Dundas. He held many positions in the government including Foreign Secretary. He received the Nobel Peace Prize.
[g] Herbert Kenrick 1836 died in infancy
(ii) Charlotte Paget m J Allsopp. A Charlotte Paget is mentioned in Mary Harding nee Bradburn's Will so she may be a daughter of Joseph Paget and his wife Mary nee Harding above.
(iii) John Paget m Ann Hunt
John Byng was a Unitarian minister, 2s 4dau all mentioned in Mary Harding nee Bradburn's Will (a)-(f)
5.3.(a). John Byng b 1771 m Mary Harding (dau of Wm Quartus see under 9) d1844
5.3.(b). Mary Byng b 1772 m William Paget d 1859.
5.3.(c). Elizabeth Byng b 1774 m Thomas Paget (cousins) d 1829. For descendents see below under Thomas Paget
5.3.(d). Thomas Byng b 1775 d 1822
5.3.(e). Anne Byng b 1777 d 1806
5.3.(f). Henrietta Byng b 1779 m Joseph Paget d 1827
5.4 Sarah Harding b 8.12.1744
not on one tree so may have died in infancy. Not mentioned in Mary Harding nee Bradburn's Will
5.5 Elizabeth Harding m J Horsley.
There is a reference to Elizabeth Paget b 19.2.1738 who married J Horsley. Mary Harding nee Bradburn's Will mentions 1dau (a)
5.5.(a). Mary Horsley
5.6 William Quartus Harding b 4.7.1750 d 1802 (see under 6).
The Myheritage website says he was born in Malta
There is mention in St Editha’s Church in Tamworth of a John Harding who died 9.7.1844 aged 82 ie born c1762 and his wife Margaret who died 14.11.1833 aged 66 ie born c1767, said to be buried with 6 of their children in a vault there. He may be no relation
6. William Quartus Harding July 1750-26.3.1802 m 19.3.1776 Martha Tuffley
Born 4.7.1750 [per family bible. Other record is of later that month], in Malta per Myheritage website. Died 26.3.1802 aged 51
A Banker and Woolstapler.
Married Martha Tuffley dau Samuel Tuffley and Martha nee Chilwell of Leicester, at St Mary’s Church, Leicester. She later married again and became Mrs Willington. Mr Willington was the Town Clerk of Tamworth
Had 9 children as numbered below. 7 sons (2 of whom died in infancy), 2 daughters. 1-9
6.1. Samuel Harding 14.12.1776-28.2.1777 [in family bible as Tom]
6.2. William Quintus Harding 12.1.1778-1870 m 3.11.1800 Rebecca Pemberton c1779-3.9.1854. (see under 7).
6.3. Mary Harding 11.3.1779-29.4.1866. m John Byng 16.6.1800
Died at Cheetham Hill, Manchester. John Byng was the son of Rev John Byng and Charlotte nee Harding) 1s, 1d (a)-(b
(a) Charlotte Byng m J Bennett. 1 dau (i)
(i) Mary Bennet m Mr Simister
(b) John Byng b 29.9.1807 m Eleanor nee Tunnicliff 20.11.1834. 3 sons (i)-(iii)
(i) John George Byng b 15.4.1837
(ii) George Byng (per Aunt Ada’s tree – not elsewhere)
(iii) Harry Byng b 21.6.1837
A Mr Byng died about 3.5.1899 when Jane Allen who had been a servant of him and his father wrote asking for help with costs of funeral. She said he was the last of the Byngs
6.4. Thomas Harding. 2.5.1780-22.10.1801
A merchant, he died in Hamburg. His mother, in 1813, signing herself Mrs Willington, wrote “The only remembrance I have of the wearing apparel of my dear son Thos Harding and for whose sake I value and preserve it. It was worn by him at a Masquerade Dress at Hamborough [sic]. He died there in Oct 1801 – in his youthful bloom at the age of 21 years, without Parents or Relatives to give him those comforts and consolations so much wanted in a long and painful illness. He departed in the arms of friends, made by him during his residence there, to whose kindness and attention in regards for him I reflect upon with gratitude – he was buried at Hamborough – he was universally lamented, esteemed and loved. Happy he who rests in peace”
6.5. Harkshaw Harding 14.7.1781-25.11.1782
6.6. Charles Harding.26.11.1782.-15.6.1868. m 24.2.1807 Ellen Willock c1788-19.11.1872
Lived at Bole Hall, Warks. Described as Charles Harding of Tamworth in 1884 picture of the three brothers - William Quintus, Charles and Samuel Tuffley). Ellen was daughter of Rev Borlase Willock and his wife Anne Peel the only sister of the first Sir Robert Peel – see Peel Connection for Ellen’s antecedents incl Peels. 6 dau (a)-(f)
(a) Anne Harding b 30.8.1807 m William Sextus Harding d 7.12.1894
(b) Ellen Harding b 6.3.1809 d July 1893 unmarried. Will dated 1875 gives her address as Bolehall, Tamworth.
(c) Charlotte Harding b and d 1810
(d) Mary Harding b 24.8.1812 d 21.2.1877 unmarried
(e) Emily Harding b 4.6.1816 m William Henry Lee 1.2.1839 d June 1889. 3 Sons, 2 Dau (i)-(v)
(i) Stewart Lee b 31.10.1839 died at Sydney, unmarried
(ii) Ellen Lee b 21.1.1841 m 7.1.1863 John Williams Morgan, son of Williams Morgan (witnesses Annette Harding and Emily Lee). 2 Sons, 1 Dau [a]-[c]
[a] William Lee Morgan b 14.1.1864 (died young?)
[b] Stuart Morgan m 13.4.1893
[i] Guy Williams Stuart Morgan b.1895 Per Laura's birthday book
[c] Mary Morgan m Molyneuse Thomas. 1 dua [i]
[i] Gwendoline Morgan Thomas m John Lloyd no issue
Laura's book mentions a Mr and Mrs Morgan getting married on 17.4.1902 with "Mrs Morgan'd illness" starting shortly thereafter and presumably the same Mrs Morgain, dieing in on 7.1.1903.
(iii) George Arthur Lee b 21.8.1843 (Colonel) m Ella Tytler d 1903
[a] Emily Adelaide Tytler Lee b. 1861 (may be more than one child..)
(iv) William Henry Lee b 4.6.1847 d Oct 1904 in Fiji, unmarried. See letter sent by him to his uncle, W S Harding ie Wm Sextus
(v) (Emily) Beatrice Lee b. 1857 m 1897 Lawford Evans
(f). Frances Augusta Harding baptised 20.4.1825 m Edward Cripps (surgeon in Cirencester) d 17.9.1896. Edward died 26.5.1885. 3 Sons, 4 Dau (i)-(vii)
(i). Charles Cripps m no issue
(ii). Frank Cripps m Fanny Davies
(iii). Franny Cripps (probably Frances Emily) m T C Oakley
(iv). Ellen (Nellie) Judith Cripps m 1892 Adam Oakley
[a]. John Frank Maxwell McLlellan b. 1895
6.7. Samuel Tuffley Harding 24.8.1784-19.6.1880 m27.4.1808 Mary Bage
A partner in and manager of the bank, Harding, Oakes and Willington of Tamworth that failed in 1819. Later became a solicitor. Referred to as Samuel Tuffley of Manchester in Burkes. Lived at Styal Cottage and later Chester. An interesting and moving address made at his graveside was reported in The Chronicle may be put on this website in due course. (no issue)
6.8. John Harding b16.12.1785 m 1807 (Susanna) Maria Ridsdale
Probably of Burlington Bank Bridlington, (Susanna) Maria Ridsdale was the dau of Edward and Elizabeth Ridsdale. He died at Burlington. 3s 1dau (a)-(d)
(a) Edward Harding 1810-1889 Referred to in Burkes as Banker, of Bridlington m1 Hentig1s 1d (i)-(ii)
(i) George Edward Harding, banker m Anne Hewitt 1877. 2 dau [a]-[b]
[a] Mabel Harding b1877
[b] “Girl Bertie”? b1879
(ii) Emma Georgina Harding b1851, m1877 Frederick Gunton m2 Jan(n)ette Simpson 1841-1901 previously governess to the Harding family and aunt of Constance "Connie" Eva Simpson 1876-1960 who married Sutton Harvey Lowe 1857-1934. Connie was brought up in the Harding household. This information comes from a descendent of hers who believes there may be a connection with Collins Music Hall in islington which may be worth looking into
(b) (Thomas) Tufley Harding, lawyer, m Mary Forster 1827-1870 (b Southwell, dau of Dr Robert Thomas Forster and Elizabeth Clay
(c) Mary Anne (or Marianne) Harding m Bridlington 21.8.1834, Dr Robert Thomas Forster. 3 sons (i)-(iii) +?. An alternative list of their children is shown on the Harding Family Tree (Summary) page. They clearly can't both be right!
(i) Charles Forster
(ii) George Edward Forster ed Guy’s Hospital? m Brown
(iii) Tom Forster
(iv)? Edith Forster was left ½ George and Martha’s 1/5th share in residue of Samuel Tuffley Harding’s estate so Edith may be a dau of Mary Anne Forster?
(d) George Harding d. 8.2.1896, barrister m Martha (Margaret per Samuel Tuffley Harding’s will) d. 13.11.1898 (“Patty” per Annette’s jottings) Colstone – no issue
6.9. Ann Harding b7.3.1787 m 10.1.1809 Charles Woolley Bage 1751 or 1757-1822 ,
Charles was the son of Robert Bage and Elizabeth Woolley of St Chad’s Shrewsbury and 1 of 5 Children – see Bage Connection) d1822. He designed the iron-beamed mill at Ditherington in Shrewsbury which currently (2014) is the subject of a lot of publicity. She died in Cardiff. Following her husband’s death in 1822, Ann ran the business but it went bankrupt in 1827. 6 Children (a)-(f).
(a) Mary Bage b 8.11.1809. Probably died in infancy as not appearing on one tree
(b) Charles Bage b 10.12.1811 St Chad’s. “No recorded children”
(c) Robert Bage b 6.8.1813. Surgeon. d 28.7.1851 buried in Naples, Italy Protestant Cemetery. M Lydia C O’Reilly (dau of Carlos O’Reilley.1 Son, 3 Dau (i)-(iv)
(i) Charles Edward Bage b25.2.1848 Naples. d10.4.1886
(ii) Catherine Lydia Bage b1849 d29.1.1855
(iii) Anne Sarah Bage b after 1849. m7.11.1865 Edward William Bonham. 1 S. [a]
[a] Walter Floyd Bonham b3.1.1869
(iv) Mary Emily Bage m Mr Holme d2.9.1927. 1 dau [a]
[a] Edith Mary Holme m Mr Forster. Lived in British Columbia, Canada.??
ROBERT IS NOT ON THE “PEDIGREE OF THE DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM HARDING A LEGATEE UNDER MR GUY’S WILL” SO MAY BELONG TO ANOTHER LINE! ON ANOTHER TREE HE IS SHOWN AS ABOVE BUT “WITH NO RECORDED CHILDREN”
(d) Edward Bage (the elder) b 8.6.1816 d. 15.7.1890 ed Christ’s Hospital m 21.5.1850 Anna Newsom Godwin (1820- 30.9.1891) d St Kildas Melbourne Australia 1890. Married in Sierra Leon, sailed to Melbourne with Anna (wife), Edward and Robert in 1853. Biography of Anna referred to here. 4 sons. (i) to (iv)
(i) Edward Bage (the younger) born at sea or Sierra Leone 11.11.1852 (twin), d. 7.7.1891 wholesale chemist m Mary Charlotte Lange b. c1863 d. 1931 (dau of Frederick Lange and Annie Richardson) d 7.1891 St Kilda, Australia. 1 son 2 dau([a]-[c]
[a] Anna Fredericka (Freda) Bage b11.4.1883 East Kilda.d23.10.1970 Brisbane. Ed Oxford High School for Girls. University Teacher. See Robert Bage family tree internet site for details of her distinguished career
[b] Ethel Mary Bage b 1884 d 1943 Kew Melbourne. She managed a garage, chauffeur and driving school founded by her friend Alice Anderson which employed only women mechanics and drivers
[c].Edward Frederick Robert “Bob” “Badget” Bage b17.4.1888 Capt. Kia Gallipoli May 1917. See Robert Bage family tree internet site for details of his distinguished career which included membership of an Antarctic rescue mission
(ii) Robert Terry Bage born at sea or Sierra Leone 11.11.1852 (twin) d. 14.4.1873
(iii) William Bage b1855 Geelong Australia m Loiusa Lang b c1861 d1925. 1 Son[a]
[a] Harold William Bage b1889 d1905 aged 16
(iv) Charles Bage b7.10.1859 surgeon, m Gertrude Eleanor Lange who d1946. He died 7.12.1930. He treated FM Alexander (founder of the Alexander Technique) for his throat trouble. He assured Alexander that two weeks’ rest for his throat trouble before an important recital engagement was all that was needed It was the failure of this advice which led Alexander on to develop the Alexander Technique. He was Alfred Felton’s personal physician following which he served as a trustee of the Felton Bequest from 1904 and as chairman from 1910. Felton was a philanthropist. 2 Children [a]-[b]
[a] Jessie Eleanor Bage OBE OStJ (Order of St John) b1890 d1980
[b] Alice Newsom Bage b1893 d1957 m? Heaton Carr Clark. 4 Children? (Only one on one of the trees)
Helen Mary Carr Clark
Other
Other
Other
(e) Caroline Marianne Bage b1.5.1819 Shrewsbury m1842 Edward Evans jnr Surgeon b c1813, Glamorgan. 4s 2d (i) – (vi)
(i) Edward Charles Evans b1843 d in infancy
(ii) Edward Charles Evans b1844
(iii) Robert Bage Evans b1845
(iv) Caroline Martha Evans b c1847
(v) Gertrude Evans b1850 m William Bage b c1850
(vi) Arthur George Evans 1853-1882 (per one source). Per Samuel Tuffley Harding release deed, he married Helen who died in 1920. Arthur George Evans died 6.7.1904 and left his estate to his wife for life and then all to his son Guy Evans ie
[a]. Guy Evans
(f) William Bage b31.12.1820 ed Christ’s Hospital Civil Engineer m1862 Harriet Evans b1824 in Cardiff d 8.1.1887. Coal owner, merchant etc. 3d (i)-(iii)
(i) Emily Caroline Bage b15.3.1863 d1953
(ii) Frances Gertrude Bage b23.11.1864 d1932
(iii) Adeline (Ada) Mary Bage b1.3.1867 d1940 (MISSING FROM AUNT ADA’S TREE)
7. William Quintus Harding 1778-1870 m 3.11.1800 Rebecca Pemberton c1779-3.9.1854
Often referred to as William Harding of Copeley Lodge, Warwickshire. “Harding of Tamworth” per 1862 edition of Burkes Landed Gentry (p681)
b 12.1.1778 [or 12.7.1778 but church records indicate baptised on 3.2.1778] d.31.1.1870 aged 92. Magistrate and DL for County of Warwick
m 3.11.1800 Rebecca dau of Samuel and Mary (descendant of Grosvenor family) Pemberton of the Laurels, Edgbaston. She died 3.9.1854 aged 75
1 son, 1 daughter 1-2
7.1. Caroline Harding 12.10.1801-1889 m 1829 Henry Talbot 1803-1873
(Church register showed her baptised 29.4.1802) Leicester m 1829 Henry Talbot Jnr “Young Henry” 1803-1873 of Franche House, Kidderminster, also see under Grosvenor. Henry was the son of Henry Snr d. 1849 who built Oaklands in Kidderminster Henry snr and his brother George were “stuff manufacturers”, later carpet makers and the family company was probably wound up in the late 1860s after being run by Young Henry’s nephew Pemberton Talbot. An article about a "Building Report" containing information on the family and on Oaklands is here.
Young Henry's brothers included William Talbot, a solicitor in Kidderminster whose children included John Arthur Talbot who married Flora Harding, dau of William Sextus Harding (see below)
Obituaries of Caroline are here, the last few lines in that of the Kidderminster Shuttle read "But withal she was a keen judge of character and was free from the general weakness of ladies who take part in philanthropic work, and who often do as much harm as good. She was not easily imposed upon, and while sedulously ministering to the wants of the really necessitous, she was not to be taken in by the cunning and undeserving. She was in every sense a wise and judicious stewardess of the things committed to her charge."
2 dau (a)-(b)
(a) Caroline Margaret Talbot died aged 2
(b) Edith Caroline Talbot b 17.1.1834-1908 m 1858 Capt William Mayne c1833-1877. 10th Royal Hussars, 5s 2dau (i)-(vii)
(i) Caroline Edith “Lily” Mayne 1852-1956 m1 J Harold Watson div,1894 2dau m2 1896 Dr Ernst Lehmann 1s
(ii) Frances Anne “Fanny” Mayne 1859-1948 m 1887 Rev Frank Edwards 1s 1dau
[a] Cicely Grace Mayne Edwards 1890-1931 m A.S Agnew 2s 1dau incl
[i] William Agnew b. 1931 m 1956 Gill
[b] Arthur Victor Slaney Edwards 1894-1916 no issue
(iii) William Henry Mayne 1861-1868 No issue
(iv) Walter Nathaniel Mayne 1863-1941 m1 1895 Kathleen Combe 2s 2dau m2 1907 Kate Macfarlane
(v) Arthur Heriot Mayne 1865-1915 m Frances Henrietta Homfray 4dau. Laura's birthday book mentions Josephine Constance Mayne m, March 17, no year given, so probably dau to Arthur or Henry?
(vi) Henry Talbot Mayne 1869-1935 m1 Elsie M Sinclair 3dau, m2 Edith Standen 1s 2dau
(vii) Rev. John “Jack” St Clair Mayne 1873-1949 m 1898 Geraldine “Gill” Mabel Holder d. 1946 dau of Sir John Charles Holder 1st Bt. b. 1838 In 1913 he lived in St John’s Wood, London and sold Oakland to Thomas Columbus Smith, a tanner and leather merchant, 2s 2dau
[a] Geraldine Margaret Mayne 1901-1996 m Shirley Stephen Sewell.
[b] Barbara St. Clair d. 1976. No issue
[c] & [d] 2 sons who died young
7.2. William Sextus b 27.6.1806 m 1.9.1835? Anne Harding – dau of Charles
Charles was son of Wm Quartus (see under 6 for Quartus/Charles/Anne, see under 8 for Sextus)
8. William Sextus Harding 27.6 1806-6.3 1896 m 1.9.1935 Anne Harding 30.12.1807- 7.12.1894
He was originally recorded as being William Quintus. According to a note made by Septimus, “William Quintus Harding was found to be the sixth William Harding and was therefore called William Sextus Harding about the age of 10 years and was therefore again Registered at Dr Williams Library 4 June1823 Certificate 3500”. A certificate from that library dated 10.6.1817 refers to him as Quintus. This suggests that it was found convenient to distinguish the William Hardings as Primus etc started in the 19th century
Born at Harbourne Hill, Staffs. Educated from age 6 at Westminster School. Took articles and set up as solicitor. Harding and Sons at one time which would have been Sextus plus Septimus and Charles presumably
Married in Tamworth, Anne nee Harding (a cousin and eldest daughter of Charles Harding of Bole Hall, Warks). See under 6
5 children - 2 sons, 3 dau 1-5
8.1. Annette Harding b 27.9.1836. Spinster d 25.2.1910.
Wrote long jottings on family in 1900 well worth reading! At the time of her death she lived at Harborne Lodge, 60 Binswood Avenue, E., Leamington Spa the contents of which were then auctioned.
8.2. William Septimus Harding 3.4.1838-10.9.1915 (see under 9)
8.3. Charles Harding 2.6 1839-31.12.1904 m Ada Jane Long 9.5.1844- 25.11.1926.
Solicitor. Lived Knutsford Lodge and Copeley Lodge Married at Knutsford. Ada’s parents were Henry and Mary nee Gaskell who were buried in the Unitarian Chapel in Knutsford where their great grandson Charles Harding was, at his request, buried behind and to the left of the novelist, Mrs Gaskell. He was a governor of the University of Birmingham to which he made substantial donations etc. The Harding Law Library which became the Harding Building in 2018 was named after him (see here) and presumably he donated all or some of what was needed to build the Law Library. 1 son 2 dau (a)-(c)
(a) Ethel Mary Harding 21.2.1871-11.2.1933 m 1899 (Georg) Herman Fiedler (1862-1945), whose distinguished life including being tutor to the Duke of Windsor is detailed here.
2 dau (i)-(ii)
(i). Herma Fielder 1902-?
(ii) Beryl Martha Minna Harding Fiedler 16.7.1912-1920
b) Emily Rebecca Harding 26.6.1872-31.7.1907. Married Richard Peyton 1825-1910. Issue died young
(c) (Charles) Copeley Harding 16.6.1873-16.1.1942. Educated Rugby School, Solicitor. Worked in War Trade Intelligence in 1st World War. Married 20.5.1907 at Djursholm, Sweden, Louise Alva Victoria Woods Beckman (singer under name of Louise Alva or "Loulette"). She was the daughter of Ernst Beckman, (Wikipedia page, needs translating from Swedish), Ernst was a Swedish newspaper editor, liberal politician and party leader. He was a member of parliament 1886-87, 1891-93 and 1903-13. His wife was Louis Woods, an American. 1 son 1 dau (i)-(ii)
(i). Sigrid Alvar Harding b17.11.1911 m Giovanni Baslini d 1953 in Milan
(ii). Charles Alva Harding 17.11.1915 -2001 ed Westminster School. Guy met him and when he died, he left Guy some pictures etc. His collection of prints, letters etc are in the Pierpoint Morgan Library. Described as a "Social Mountineer". His very amusing obituary in the Daily Telegraph is here. An extract, also amusing, from from Sir Roy Strong's diaries is here. Both below. It seems he was known (with some justification} as "Lady" Harding..
Obituary of Charles Harding in the Daily Telegraph
28 November 2001 • 12:05am
CHARLES HARDING, who has died aged 86, was a bachelor socialite of the old school and a nimble figure in London's drawing-rooms and art galleries.
For more than 40 years he occupied a large, musty flat in Cadogan Square, Chelsea, where he entertained diplomats, aristocrats, politicians and courtiers - or their widows - with effortless aplomb and almost total self-effacement.
His large, meticulously planned luncheons were regular events, and his summer cocktail party caused traffic jams in the area, with ambassadorial limousines bearing number plates such as FRA 1 jostling for position outside Harding's front door. The guest list varied, but the luncheon menu always ended with chocolate chip mint ice cream.
Although he dabbled in the arts and mixed in grand political circles, Harding was devoid of personal ambition and, unlike others of his type, was never a fixer of deals. Giving or attending parties appeared to be his sole purpose. His brightly shining, lightbulb-shaped face and nymph-like figure - which he kept in trim by exercising beside Edward Heath and Jennifer Paterson in the Grosvenor Gym - were seen at every kind of social event thrown by the old-fashioned gratin in London, Paris and Rome.
Some saw him as a sublimely lightweight, if not two-dimensional, figure (the diplomat Sir Charles Johnston noted that Harding had an "entirely flat back to his head as if it was cut out of paper"); but others enjoyed his talk of invitations, flowers, jewels and dance-bands, even when his descriptions of social events concluded with the word "apparently" - an unabashed admission that he himself had not been present on the occasion concerned.
Charles Alvar Harding was born on November 17 1915, the son of Charles Copeley Harding, a Birmingham businessman with musical interests who had married a singer, Louise Beckman, daughter of a member of the Swedish parliament.
His childhood was spent at No 14 Holland Park, west London, where his mother kept a flourishing musical and literary salon attended by Sir Edward Elgar, Lord Berners, Sir Henry Wood and, on at least one occasion, T S Eliot. "Charlie", as his mother's friends called him, collected autographs from an early age and quickly secured those of Arnold Bennett, Paul Valery and Ida Rubenstein.
He was educated at Gibbs School, Kensington, where he remembered being bullied, and then at Westminster, where his arrival each morning in his parents' yellow Rolls-Royce caused resentment among fellow pupils.
After a spell at Gonville and Caius, Cambridge, reading modern languages - he was fluent in French and Swedish - Harding drifted about fashionable Europe and was often seen dancing with his mother on the Venice Lido.
On the outbreak of the Second World War, he was commissioned in the Army and saw active service during the Norwegian campaign. In 1942 he was invalided out and became ADC to Lord Rankeillor, the Governor of Madras, a posting in which he would acquire the courtier-like skills, knowledge of correct placement and his eye for a menu, all of which he would later put to such efficient use on his own account.
In 1948 Harding opened the Trafford Gallery in Mount Street, Mayfair. Here he staged a number of popular exhibitions and helped to launch artists such as John Ward, later a Royal Academician. In 1953 the Trafford's "Painting is a Pleasure" exhibition showed works by Noel Coward, Cecil Beaton and Col J J Astor, which were sold in aid of the East End housing charity TocH.
In 1958 Sacheverell Sitwell wrote an introduction to the gallery's "Parks and Statues" exhibition, which included the work of Carel Weight, Felix Kelly and the future Conservative cabinet minister Lord Thorneycroft.
In the same year, Harding exchanged his Piccadilly flat for the pillared and porticoed maisonette in Cadogan Square; the house-warming party was attended by Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent, with 250 people coming in after dinner to dance to Comfrey Phillips's band. Harding's life soon fell into a pattern, Christmas being spent in Gstaad or Klosters, and two weeks every September being spent with the writer Freya Stark at Asolo.
During these years, Harding had the distinction of being dubbed "the ultimate spare man" (and, less flatteringly, "Charles, Lady Harding"). Admirers compared him with Elliot Templeton in Somerset Maugham's novel The Razor's Edge, or spoke of him as "a character out of Evelyn Waugh". Loelia, Duchess of Westminster momentarily confused him with Charles Hardy, leader of the "Mayfair Men", who had committed a daring jewel robbery in the 1930s and been sentenced to 20 strokes of the cat o'nine tails.
By the 1980s he had emerged as a London "character", and there was even talk of a Charles Harding Appreciation Society with a noted Oxford don as honorary president. Parties at Cadogan Square were sufficiently well-attended and enjoyed to cause those who were not invited to snipe at him, but Harding was immune to mockery and continued into his eighties to act as an invaluable catalyst.
He never lost his Fred Astaire looks, though his distinctive gait was later compared with that of a Jack Russell terrier. Throughout his life, he avoided scandal and had no taste for personal publicity. He resisted an invitation to have his home photographed by Architectural Digest but his name regularly appeared towards the end of the lists of those attending memorial services in London.
In 1993 Harding deposited his papers at the Pierpont Library in New York; items included the autograph album he had as a child, a photograph of himself in his mother's salon, and 91 letters and 58 postcards from Freya Stark.
Extract from Sir Roy Strong's diaries
Lady Harding
So Charles, “Lady Harding”, has died at the age of eighty-six. In the end I couldn’t stand those lunches! But he was a wholly unmalicious man, egregious certainly, anxious to charm and please to an excessive degree, with a face like a dowager out of a play by Oscar Wilde, all lunches he gave at his Cadogan Square flat which ran on Ambassadors wives, widows of the beau monde and unattached men such as Norman St John Stevas’s partner Adrian. Those lunches belonged to a world that disappeared in the middle of the Seventies. Who in the Eighties would wipe of three hours in the middle of ta working day?
I’m afraid that in the midst of all the V&A crises I couldn’t face them any more. The elegant tittle-tattle seemed ever more vacuous. Such gatherings epitomised the world of which I caught the tail end in lunches given by Cecil Beaton and Diana Cooper. Only the Queen Mother, at a hundred and one, is still, I suppose, giving them. But Charles was a well-meaning and generous host. He just loved gathering this little galaxy together, getting in the hired domestics and entertaining. It was all set-dressing: the food was pretty aweful, the pudding always chocolate-chip ice cream terted up a fancy goblet. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone whose entire life was so entirely made up of fashionable attitudes and surfaces. He used to try and ask me to lunch after 1987 but no, I’m afraid I invented reasons not to accept. I felt a bit mean really but I no longer had the taste or the time for that world any more.
8.4. Emily Rebecca Harding 3.6.1841-14.1.72 m Richard Peyton d 23.5.1910,
He was a manufacturing chemist of Westfield, Augustus Road, Edgbaston and Cattespoole, Worcs. Issue died young. Richard Peyton married again to Harriet Long who was born 1842, died 21.10.1921 and was the sister of Ada Jane nee Long (wife of Charles Harding)
8.5. Flora Harding 23.10.1845-14.8.1876 m 15.8.1868, John Arthur Talbot 1842-1895
John was a solicitor, son of William Talbot, solicitor of Kidderminster (witnesses to marriage Annette Harding and G Ogden Talbot). William Talbot was a brother of "Young Henry" Talbot who married Caroline Harding, dau of William Quintus Harding. Following Flora's death, in 1880 John Arthur married Alice Buckley-Williams (see later). Flora and John Arthur Talbot had 2 sons, 2 dau (a)-(d)
(a) Guy Talbot May 1869-1878
(b) Hilda Gertrude Talbot 1870-1958 m 1895 Geoffrey Ward Thompson 1868-1946 (brother of Sydney Poole Thompson, husband of her sister Maud) 1s 3dau (i)-(iv)
(i) Guy Lawrence Thompson 1897-1970. Doctor practising in Scarborough m1 1926 Lois Emily Florence Stuart 1898-1937 1s 2dau [a]-[c] m2 Ruby Ada Constance Pickins? 1908-1988
[a]. Anne Thompson b1927
[b]. Patricia (Paddy) Thompson b1929, m Robert Roseveare b1924 1 son, 3 dau [i]-[iv]
[i]. Elizabeth Thompson b1956 m John Knowles. 1s 1
1. Stuart Knowles b1986
[ii]. Catherine (“Kate”) Thompson b1958 m Robert Pickles 2s 1-2
1. Joe Knowles b1986
2. Guy Knowles b1988
[iii]. Nicholas Thompson b1961 m Amanda (“Mandy”) O’Shaughnessy
[iv] Bridget Thompson b1965
[c]. Richard Thompson b1931 m Valerie Sims? 1956. 1 son, 1 dau [i]-[ii]
[i] Mark Thompson b1963
[ii] Belinda Thompson b1961 m Charles Bishop 1980
(ii). Joan Thompson 1899-1944 m 1929 Eric Raines d 1946. 2 sons, 1 dau [a]-[c]
[a] Faith Raines b1931, Physiotherapist m Joe ? 1s 1dau [i]-[ii]
[i] Steven
[ii] Zoe
[b] Roger or Ralph Raines b 1934 m ? 1s 1dau [i]-[ii]
[i] Susanna Raines
[ii] Robert Raines
[c] James Raines b1939 m Ann Pope 2dau [i]-[ii]
[i] Emily Raines
[ii] Lucy Raines
(iii). (Emily) Lorna Thompson b1902 m 1930 Dr E L Edmunson (wrote letter dated 29.1.1952 to Laurance Harding re some relations). 1s 1dau [a]-[b]
[a] Christopher Edmundson b1932 ed Winchester m Anne 1s 2dau [i]-[iii]
[i] Victoria Edmundson m with issue
[ii] Sarah Edmundson m with issue
[iii] Charles Edmundson
[b] Susan Edmundson b1935 m Gerald Blenkinsop 1s 2dau [i]-[iii]
[i] Tom Blenkinsop
[ii] Tessa Blenkinsop
[iii] Diana Blenkinsop
(iv) (Hilda) Faith Thompson 1904-1988 m W. Douglas Clayton, RAMC decorated in 1st WW as was his father. 1 dau [a]
[a] Pauline Faith Clayton b1932 m1 Bruce Weston m2 Raymond Durrant 1932-2014, Mayor of St Albans in the '70s, (s of Reginald Durrant) 5s 1dau [i]-[v]
[i] Richard Weston
[ii] Robert Weston
[iii]Wendy Weston
[iv] James Weston
[v] Andrew Durrant
(c). Maud Talbot bAug 1871 m 1897 Sidney Poole Thompson (brother of Geoffrey Thompson, husband of her sister Hilda). No issue
(d). Arthur Talbot 1873-1873
John Arthur Talbot m2 in 1880 (following Flora's death in 1876), Alice Buckley Williams 1852-1893. Their children may have been (or included) 1s 2dau (a)-(c)
(a). Lt Eric Lawrence Talbot RHA 1883-1914 kia Ypres October 1914. Newspaper extract in Laura's birthday book.
(b). Lumley (or Emily) Talbot 1881-1891 ie died young
(c). (Alys) Meriel Talbot 1888-1951 m 1911 George Dacre Hardinge (or Harding) Tyler OBE 1881-1951 ”aged 66”, per one source, so c1885-1951. Per this source, he died in 1935. [Ada Perkins, Aunt of Violet Fenwick married General Tyler who was also related to Dacre aristocracy. However, the Fenwick (see Fenwick of Lambton here) and Harding families were not known to be connected until the 1930s when John GL Harding met and married Rachel Fenwick. Laura Harding nee Sargant's "Principal Events book shows "28 March 1911 Meriel's Wedding to Mr Dacre Hardinge (sic) Tyler" ] 2dau (i)-(ii)
(i) ? Bets Harding(e)
(ii) Ann "Tilly" Harding(e) m Mr Jones 2s [a]-[b]
[a] Nathanial Jones
[b] Caevern? Jones
9. William Septimus Harding 1838-1915 m 1866 at Edgbaston, Laura Sargant 3.4.1838- 10.9.1915
They married while he was living at Englefield. JP. Solicitor in Birmingham . At one time lived at The Firs, Harborne, Birmingham. On 19.9.1889 lived at Englefield, Harborne. His office at one time was 32 Waterloo St, Birmingham
For Laura, see under Sargant connection.
6 children, all sons (of which 1st died in infancy) 1-6
9.1. William Octavius Harding 21.3.1867-8.8.1867
9.2. Capt William Grosvenor Harding 26.7.1868-22.9.1907 m 22.2.1898 Nora Macnamara 1870-1934 or 5
They married in Malta, Nora was the widow of Arthur L Macnamara) dau of John Bayford Butler 1832-1888 (Commander Royal Navy) and Sybil Catherine Butler nee Devereux.
Sybil was the dau of Robert Devereux, 15th Viscount Hereford. At 2015 Charles de Bohun Devereux b.1975 is the 19th Viscount Hereford
WGH was editor of the Park Lane Journal which has 3 issues in 1877 and 1878! Joined 1st Battalion, Lincolnshire Regiment 1889, ADC to Sir Lyon Freemantle, gov of Malta. Ed Rugby School, Trinity College, Cambridge. Admitted Inner Temple 1887. d Maymyo, Upper Burma 22.9.1907. Maymyo was a hill station with a considerable Anglo Burmese population, now named Pyin U Lwin or Pyin Oo Lwin. He was appointed Brigade Major in March 1906 per Laura's diary. He died 22.9.1907 after a long illness. Nora d1934.
Notice of death (newspaper not known) reads “Death of Captain Harding. We regret to record the death of Captain W. Grosvenor Harding, eldest son of Mr W Septimus Harding J.P. of Englefield, Harbourne, which occurred on Sunday at Maymyo, Burma. Captain Harding was born in 1868 and received his first commission as second lieutenant in the Lincolnshire Regiment in 1889 from the Militia. He attained the rank of captain in 1897, and from November 1896 to the end of August, 1897, he acted as aide-de-camp to Sir Lyon Freemantle, the Governor and Commander-in-Chief of Malta. He afterwards went to South Africa as adjutant with his battalion.” He is buried in Plot E31 in Maymo Cemetery. Inscription : “To the dear memory of William Grosvenor Harding Captain Lincolnshire Regiment who died at Maymyo September 22nd 1907 aged 39. The day thou gavest Lord is ended”. Laura's diary records on 30.8.1905 "peace between Burma and Japan"
1 son, 1 dau (a)-(b)
(a), Nora Maye Devereux Laura Harding b Dec 1898 m 3.9.1925 Alan Arthur Dams (“Peter”) who was a son of Canon Dams d 1.6.1971. 1s, 1 dau (i)-(ii)
(i). Wendy Mary Dams
(ii). Peter Geoffrey Arthur Dams (c1928-2014)
(b). Humphrey Harding (died young? Not shown on all trees)
9.3. Reginald Tuffley Harding b 9.2.1870-5.4.1917
Lived at 34 Bruton St. Partner with Laurance in Solicitors firm. Ed Rugby School. d 5.4.1917. Solicitor probably in a partnership until 1899 when he set up on his own
9.4. George Arthur Harding 1.8.1871-6.11.46, m 10.12.1906 Alice Maude Collins 1877-28.11.1959 at Kilmallock, Eire
He emigrated to Canada aged 19 in 1891. They returned to England in 1911 for the birth of Reginald Stephen who died shortly after birth and George, Alice and Basil returned to Canada in 1912. Some of their life was spent in Grand Prairie, British Columbia. 3 sons (a)-(c)
(a). (William Arthur) Basil Harding of Stone Lodge Farm, Tenterden, Kent. Borne in Canada. Mushroom farmer b 5.2.1908 m Mary Joyce Jenner (Mollie) who died May 1992. His company Tenterden Mushrooms Ltd, in Kent went into creditors voluntary liquidation in 1958 1 son, 1 dau (i)-(ii)
(i). (Hazel) Bridget Harding (adopted) b 30.1.46 m John Green
Simon Green
A N Other [noted as “expected” on one tree]
[note written by Guy on 9.1.1995 following telecon with Bridget Green refers to a Mrs Rose Gold as being around at time of Basil’s death though not clear if she was a carer or friend of some sort or was Noel’s wife. There is also reference to Roger, a brother as having had a funeral. Not clear whose brother he was? Bridget’s natural brother? There is also reference to an Uncle Madison?]
(ii). Adrian Roger Harding (adopted) b 12.3.1949 killed in road accident 17.5.1978
(b) Reginald Stephen Harding b 16.7.1911 d 19.9.1911
(c). Noel Drummond (or Desmond) Harding of Inglewood St Michaels, Tenterden 27.12.1912- 21.1.1981. He died unmarried per one document but very definitely married to Mrs R M (Rose Mary) Harding per letter re his estate, from Lloyds Bank. Per Lloyds Bank and Basil on 19.5.198, Noel died intestate and Basil was expecting to get something as a result (he may have been applying for letters of administration?). It seems certain that he married late in life and had no issue. His estate slightly exceeded the widows intestate allowance, giving his brother Basil a small amount.
9. 5. Cecil Redfern Harding 24.9.1874-26.4.27.
Ed Rugby School. 13 Bruton St then the Albany. Major in Irish Guards reserve, 3.9.1914. War was declared 4.8.1914. Cecil sailed to front 12.9.1914. Severely wounded near Ypres, 11.11.1914 - see this article about the Irish Guards in the first days of the war which includes references to him. Also (see a few lines from the end) this which includes a graphic account of the death of his commanding officer who was in front of him on 11.11.14. OBE. Despatches DAAG, BEF. Stock Jobber. Unmarried.
9.6. Laurance Harding 17.10.1879-25.12.1966 (see under 10) (Spelling on birth certificate is Laurence)
10. Laurance Harding 17.10.1879-25.12.1966 m 17.11.1903 Florence Howe 1879-19.5.1951
Born at The Firs, Harborne, ed Rugby School. Lived for many years at 3 Cottesmore Court, Kensington. Solicitor. During ww1, motor driver Sgt in Army Service Corps, commissioned 10.8.1917
Florence Howe was dau of Charles John Howe, Barrister. Laurance went into partnership with a Mr Munby in1909 - that firm Harding & Munby moved in 1911 to 50 Lincolns Inn Fields (above the Old Curiosity Shop in Portsmouth Street). It existed for many years until Laurance's retirement and John GL Harding (11 below) merged it with two other firms to become Edgley, Harding and Philips in New Square.
3 children - 1s, 2dau 1-3
10.1. Joan Harding b10.3.1905-? m 1928 Robert (Bobbie) Edward Colquhoun Swann 1901-27.10.1964.
Bobbie Swann was son of James Nisbet Swann and Ethel Innes Mayhew, housemaster of Malvern College, educated at Summerfields, Oxford, Winchester College and Trinity College, Oxford. After graduating he joined Lever Bros, subsequently worked in publishing and, in 1926, was appointed Librarian of Cheltenham College where he became an Assistant Master and finally Head of the English Department until he retired in 1960. Leading publications: ''The Making of Verse'' in partnership with Frank Sidgwick, published by Sidgwick and Jackson in 1934, ''Four School Dramas'', published by Thomas Nelson in 1937, ''The Making of Prose'' in partnership with Frank Sidgwick, published by Sidgwick and Jackson in 1949. 1 son 1 dau (a)-(b)
(a). Jeremy Swann (changed surname to Swann-Fitzgerald-Lombard) b 25.10.1930 - 2017 ed Cheltenham College and Corpus Christi College Oxford. National Service 1949-1950 Gloucestershire Regt, seconded KAR, Kenya. Advertising, marketing and communications in UK, Colombia, Iran and Switzerland
m (1) 1956 Shirley Elizabeth Marshall dis 1960
m (2) 1963 Wendy Fitzgerald Lombard. 2s, 2dau (i)-(iv)
(i) Adam Sebastian Robert Swann (or Swann Fitzgerald Lombard) b 29.11.1963
(ii) Susanna Jane Swann (or Swann Fitzgerald Lombard) b 10.12.65. 2 dua [a]-[b]
[a] Nina Marie 2006- (father, Philippe Beytrison)
[b] Amelie Tess 2007- (father, Philippe Beytrison)
(iii) Alexander James Swann (or Swann Fitzgerald Lombard) 12.10.1967-1992
(iv) Katherine Lucy Swann (or Swann Fitzgerald Lombard) b 13.6.1972 1 son [a]
[a] Martin Alexander 2003 (father Christian Struchen)
(b). Joanna Caroline Swann 25.5.1936 ( or 1934)- 2006 m 1964 Ian Osmond son of Revd Osmond, ed The Garden School, Lane End, Bucks. 2s (i)-(ii)
(i). Mark Jonathon Osmond b 10.1.1966
(ii). Rupert Ian Osmond b 24.1.1968
10.2. John Grosvenor Laurance Harding see under 11
10.3. Naomi Harding 21.6.1916-20.12.1984 m 20.12.1946 Thomas Evelyn Price div’d 1954
Born at Cotehill, Copperkins Lane, Amersham In 1976 she became President of the First Church of Christ Scientist in Boston, Mass. An article here is about her views on gay people in her church and a confrontation with them following it. Also here is an article "Rare honour for local churchwoman" in the Westminster & Pimlico News in 1976 about her achievement in holding such an important international position.
11. John Grosvenor Laurance "Larry" Harding 22.9.1908-17.12.1996 m 4.3.1937 Rachel Fenwick 1913-2006
ed Rugby School. Solicitor, Married at Higham, Suffolk. Rachel was co-author with Mary Dyson of “A Book of Condolences”. See this page Fenwick and other Northumberland Families on this website. Also, the website Fenwick of Lambton which now contains all the information we have gathered about that family. 3s 1-3
11.1. Nicholas John Harding b 24.11.1937 m 8.5.1965 Sarah Diana Newton b 8.5.1965 see under12
11.2. Anthony Laurance Harding b 24.11.1937 d shortly thereafter
11.3. Andrew Guy Harding b 25.3.1946 d 26.11.2022
ed Radley College and St Andrew’s University. Solicitor in London and Newport Pagnell
12. Nicholas John Harding 24.11.1937- m 8.5.1965 Sarah Diana Newton b15.7.1942
ed Wellington College. Chartered Accountant 1s 3dau 1-4
12.1. Jessica Zoe Harding b 18.12.1968. m Gareth Thomas.
2s (a)-(b)
(a) Alexander Nicholas Harding b 15.6.2003
(b) William Thomas Harding b 20.6.2007
12. 2. Clarissa Julia Harding b 30.3.1970 m Shane McCormack.
1dau (a)
(a) Katie Sarah McCormack b 21.6.2000
12.3. Alexandra (Sasha) Kate Harding b 22.8.1972 m 2018 Marcel Jeremy Weisselberg (father of both her children)
1s, 1dau (a)-(b)
(a) Max Sullivan Harding b 10.2.2000
(b) Sally Martha Harding b 30.3.2002
4. Samuel Richard Harding b 29.7.1974 (see under 13)
13. Samuel Richard Harding b 29.7.1974
2s 1dau 1-3
13.1. Amber May Fudge-Harding b 27.11.1999 (mother Mari-Sian Fudge)
13.2. Sonny Anthony Harding b 13.11.2004 (mother Amie Mcguinness) (see under 14)
13.3. Edward James Harding b 22.12.2013 (mother Helen Place)
14. Sonny Anthony Harding b13.11.2004
Evans and Howe
A. Ethel Caroline Evans was one of Florence Howe’s sisters . She married 1.7.1905 Robert Fabian Evans (described as a stock broker on Betty’s birth certificate). Betty (Miss E.M. Evans), borne 6.9.1906 was their only child and thus first cousin of JGL Harding.
B. Ethel and husband lived near Chalfont. From hearsay, her husband lost all his money and became a taxi driver and Ethel became clerk of works or some such to Edwin Forbes (architect of most of Nightingales Lane, Chalfont St Giles) and also served in the women's land army in the 2ndWW. In old age she lived at Longlow House Chesham Bois which was an old peoples home
C. Betty Evans must have been fairly penniless. She worked as a secretary for Harding and Munby for a time and at the National Council for Civil Liberties (now Liberty). Her uncle T.D.Fabian Evans (thought to have been an eminent Birmingham doctor) left her a life interest in his substantial residuary estate which is why she eventually became financially independent.(the capital of that trust on her death went to various charities, I think all Birmingham based and maybe in some part absorbed into the NHS).
D. She was related to the Phelps' (Peggy Robinson's father or mother and I think therefore to the Forbes'. There was a suggestion that we also were much more distantly related to them (Evans or so forth, via the Chance's )
E. I think that in the distant past, the Evans' and maybe thus also the Forbes’ were more distantly connected in the Chance (Sargant) lineage - which may show up in the Chance book.