Grosvenor, Townsend, Pemberton, Ryland and Thompson
Introduction
William Quintus Harding married Rebecca Pemberton in 1800. Rebecca was the daughter of Samuel and Mary Pemberton. Mary was the daughter of William Grosvenor of Market Drayton and his 2nd wife Mary Townsend. Another daughter was Anne Pemberton who married 8.3.1808 Samuel Ryland. Anne’s 1st cousin was Elizabeth Ryland who married Joseph Priestley, son of the influential preacher Rev Joseph Priestley. Frederick Ryland married Clara Chamberlain, sister of Joseph and therefore aunt of Arthur and Neville Chamberlain.
Sources of information include Burkes Landed Gentry under “Ryland of Bearley and Sherborne” and a handwritten document headed “The Genealogy of the ancient Family of the Grosvenors of Hulme, Eaton, Bellaport and Brand from 1587”
Italics indicates further information may be available on another tree
Grosvenor
There is a mass of information, not always consistent, about this family going back some 20 generations before Mary Grosvenor who was Mrs William Quintus Harding’s mother. This is an attempt to summarise it in relation to Townsends, Pembertons, Rylands, Priestleys and Hardings. More detail can be found under “Grosvenor Pedigree detail” at the end of this page.
Gilbert le Grosvenor, nephew of Henry Lupus, Earl of Chester
About 8 generations on, the head of a part of the family was:
Sir Robert le Grosvenor m dau of Sir Robert Pulford. 1 known son 1.
1. Sir Thomas le Grosvenor, Lord of Hulme m dau of Sir William Phesent. 3 known sons (a)-(c)
(a). Robert Grosvenor, Earl of Hulme. 6 daus
(b). Ralph (or Rawlin) Grosvenor m1. Jean Sole, m2. Dame Ellen. “From this Ralph descends the Marquis of Westminster”
(c). Thomas Grosvenor m Elizabeth Pershall. 1 known son (i)
(i). Randolph Grosvenor of Bellaport m dau of Mainwaring. I known son [a]
[a]. Randolf Grosvenor of Bellaport m dau of Charlton. 1 known son [i]
(i). Thomas Grosvenor of Bellaport and Brand m Margery Coates. 2 known sons 1-2
1. William Grosvenor of Belaport and Brand
2. Richard Grosvenor of Brand m Ursullah Charlton. 1 known son (a)
(a). William Grosvenor of Brand m1 Anne ? no issue, m2 Marjorie Nayler 2 known sons (i)-(ii)
(i). William Grosvenor (alive in 1640)
(ii). Robert Grosvenor of Eaton m dau of Richard Cotton. 1 known son [a]
[a]. William Grosvenor m Elizabeth Flood. I known son [i]
[i]. Robert Grosvenor d. 1753 m1 Mrs Hannah Stubbs who had about 7 children, m2 Mrs Mary Allen, 1 son 1 dau Son 1.
1. William Grosvenor of Market Drayton, Attorney-at-law 4.1.1710-22.1.1772
m1 Mary Cathorock 2 sons (a)-(b)
(a). John Grosvenor, surgeon 23.10.1739-2.1.1810
(b). William Cathorock Grosvenor 9.5.1743-?
m2 1744 Mary Townsend. 5 sons, 4 daus including (a):
(a). Mary Grosvenor m Samuel Pemberton (see separate tree). Children incl (i)
(i). Rebecca Pemberton m William Quintus Harding
Duke of Westminster
Grosvenor being the family name of the Duke of Westminster (whose main claim to fame seems to be that the current duke – Gerald Grosvenor - is the richest person in the UK), it seems likely that there is a distant connection. This seems to exist but it is necessary to go to the 10th generation above Mary Grosvenor (mother of the wife of Quintus Harding) to find the first common ancestor. This is Sir Thomas Grosvenor, Lord of Hulme whose 1st son, Robert, only had daughters but his 2nd son, Ralph (or Rawlin) is shown on trees as “from this Ralph descends the Marquis of Westminster”. Sir Thomas’s 3rd son is shown as Thomas from whom Mary Pemberton nee Grosvenor was descended. If this is roughly correct, it would mean that eg Nicholas John Harding and the Duke of Westminster would very roughly be 15th cousins - along with several thousand others!
Townsend
Richard Townsend of Ellerton Hall m Margaret Friend . In one place it says that his father married a Miss Badderley. 1 son 4 daus 1-5
1. Anne Townsend m John Gettings. 1 known son (a)
(a). Son ? Gettings. 1 known dau (i)
(i). Dau Gittings m Newton. 1 known dau [a]
[a]. Anna Newton (wrote letter from Shrewsbury 1.5.1882. She had portrait of Richard Townsend her great-great grandfather and provided some information to an unnamed relation about her ancestors. She also had a picture of a barrister Grosvenor and said that “your ? sisters in the Townsend Arms. She said that she could find no mention of a Samuel Pemberton but referred to Richard Pemberton as being Mary Grosvenor’s husband and father of daughters who married Mr Ryland and Mr Riddlesden so there seems to be some confusion as to whether Richard or Samuel is the right name.)
2. Mary Townsend 26.10.1721-1787 [wrongly shown as 1821-1837 in one document) m William Grosvenor (John Grosvenor per Anna Newton’s letter) (see under Grosvenor) 26.3.1744. Anna Newton’s letter gave John Grosvenor as Mary Townsend’s husband. 5 sons 4 dau (a)-(b).
(a). Robert Grosvenor m Margaret Amery (his cousin)
(b). Mary Grosvenor m Samuel (wrongly stated to be Richard in one document) Pemberton. 4 sons, 7 daus (see Grosvenor pedigree for all) including (i)-(ii)
(i). Anne Pemberton m 8.3.1808 Samuel Ryland or may have been sister of Mary, not dau. 1 dau [a]
[a]. Louise Anne Ryland d1889(letter from her in archives), see more on her under Pemberton.
(ii). Rebecca Pemberton m 1880 William Quintus Harding of Copeley and had issue shown in link
3. Dau Townsend m John Amery. 1 known dau (a)
(a). Margaret Amery married Robert Grosvenor (her cousin)
4. Dau Townsend
5. Baderley Townsend (referred in one place as being the eldest son though there may have been male siblings)
Pemberton
(Some of this information from Search documents For Free “Ryland-L Archives” found on internet. It refers to information re Ryland and the Old Meeting House, Birmingham)
Samuel Pemberton 1704-16.8.1784 m Rebecca ? 2 (known) sons 1-2
1. Samuel Pemberton 1738-14.8.1803 of the Laurels, Edgbaston, jeweller
m1 Elizabeth Broom 3 sons, 1 dau (a)-(d)
(a). George Pemberton died in infancy
(b). William Pemberton died in infancy
(c). Harriet Pemberton m John Jefferies 2 sons, 2 dau (i)-(iv)
(i). Mathew Jefferies d unmarried
(ii). John John Jefferies d unmarried
(iii). Harriet Jefferies “in retreat”
(iv). Lucy Jefferies m Major Beete 2 sons, 1 dau [a]-[c]
[a]. Son Beate
[b]. Son Beate
[c]. Daughter Beate m Brogden
(d). Samuel Pemberton m Kelsall of Chester? 1 dau (i)
(i). Caroline Pemberton m Srawright no issue
m2 Mary Grosvenor 1744-3.11.1817. Married 6.2.1769 at Market Drayton 4 sons, 7 daus (a)-(k)
(a). Samuel Pemberton d 29.8.1836
(b). Rebecca Pemberton d young
(c). Caroline Pemberton d young
(d). George Pemberton d young
(e). Lucina Pemberton d young
(f). Thomas Pemberton 1776-18.3.1830 m Maria Hooke, she died 11.9.1836. 2 sons (i)-(ii)
(i). Samuel Pemberton m Kale and Deykin?
(ii). Thomas Pemberton d 9.4.1873? m Stevens. 3 sons 1 dau. [a]-[d]
[a]. Emily Pemberton m Griffin
[b]. Grosvenor Hooke Pemberton
[c]. Sydney Thomas Pemberton
[d]. Roger Pearson Pemberton
(g). Mary Pemberton m Thomas Stokes. Several children see here (i)-(ii)
(i). Louisa Stokes m George Talbot. 10 children per Aunt Ada's book (needs checking)
(ii) Others ? incl dau who m Henry Talbot and whose dau m Caroline dau of Wm Quintus and Rebecca – see under Wm Quintus
(h). Rebecca Pemberton b. 1778 m1800 Wm Quintus Harding (see Wm Quintus Harding for succession) d 1854
(i). Anne Pemberton m. 8.3.1808 Samuel Ryland, Magistrate for Counties of Warwick and Worcester and High Sheriff or Worcester 1822. See p406 Burkes Commoners V4 1838. 1 dau (i)
(i). Louisa-Anne Ryland 1814-1889. She looks to be the person who wrote from Barford Hill, Warwick on 3 May no year stated in reply to someone not named, saying “I return the enclosed … do not disclose the perplexing statements. You have the Grosvenor pedigree and there certainly seems a connexion. …I showed you a letter either from Mrs Riddlesden or her sister Sophia Grosvenor. Mary was our grandmothers name and the statement that she had a daughter who married Ryland seems odd. I have often heard my Mother talk of the four long tailed black horses which I think our grandmother’s father used to drive and I think his name was Townsend ..". She was reputed to have been very rich.
(j). Sophia Pemberton m. Charles Lloyd d1836. 3 sons, 4 daus (i)-(vii)
(i). Grosvenor Lloyd d young
(ii). James Farmer Pemberton m Ramsey 1 son, 2 daus [a]-[c]
[a]. Georgina Pemberton
[b]. Arthur Pemberton
[c]. Daughter Pemberton
(iii). Owen Pemberton d young
(iv). Agatha Pemberton m du Vallon 3 sons, 2 daus [a]-[e]
[a]. Son du Vallon d unmarried in Mexico
[b]. Son du Vallon d unmarried in Algiers
[c]. Louisa du Vallon m Brunton
[d]. Grosvenor du Vallon m Dixon
[e]. Caroline du Vallon m Beranger
(v) . Sophia Pemberton m Thompson 1 dau [a]
[a]. Sophy Thompson m Lever?
(vi). Priscilla Caroline Pemberton m Millet 3 children [a]-[c]
[a]. Clare Millet m Marche
[b]. Caroline Millet
[c]. ? Millet m Ferdinand
(vii). Mary Pemberton m Edward (cousin, dau of Plumstead Lloyd? 3 daus [a]-[c]
[a]. Sophy m Stead
[b]. Isabella m Clinton
[c]. Mary unmarried
(k). Edwin Pemberton 19.7.1785-1.8.1851 (another document said died in infancy)
2. Thomas Pemberton 1741-6.11.1768 m Rebecca Broom Issue incl
(a). Hannah Pemberton m 1790 George Talbot ("Old George"), son of Samuel Talbot and brother of "Old Henry" Talbot. Issue incl
(i). George Talbot ("Young George")
Ryland
William Ryland b. 24.5.1696, m dau of Rev Sillitoe. 3 sons, 2 dau 1-5
1. John Ryland b. 1726 d. 5.6.1814 m 1.5.1759 Martha Ruston. Lived in Baskerville House which was burnt down in the Priestley riots of 1791 "The crowd destroyed John Ryland's home, Baskerville House, and drank the supplies of liquor which they found in the cellar".1 son (a)
(a). Samuel Ryland of Bearley and Sherbourne m 1808 Samuel Pemberton 1 known dau. See under Pemberton above
(i) Louisa Anne Ryland, spinster. See under Pemberton above where there is reference to something she probably wrote about the family.
2. William Ryland 1731-16.5.1810 m 1761 Elizabeth Pemberton 1740-26.9.1805. 7 sons 3daus (a)-(j)
(a). William Ryland b. 1.2.1763 m Sarah Freeth and had issue (not shown)
(b). Samuel Ryland March 1764-Oct 1791
(c). John Ryland died young
(d). Thomas b. 15.9.1769-1.5.1844 m Mary Smith 1771-5.10.1825. He served the office of low bailiff of Birmingham in 1819. 3 (known) sons (i)-(iii)
[THERE IS A GENERATION MISSING HERE AS (iii) BELOW IS A GRANDSON, NOT A SON OF (d) ABOVE]
(i). Thomas Ryland
(ii). William Ryland
(iii). Frederick Ryland 1845-1899 m Clara Chamberlain 1851-1915. She was a sister of Joseph Chamberlain and thus aunt of his sons Austen and Neville Chamberlain.
[a]. Sybil Ryland 1890-1968 m Thompson
[i]. Christopher Ryland Thompson 1925-2015
(e). John Ryland died young
(f). John Ryland b. 10.8.1773 m Sarah Smith and had issue (not shown). He served the office of low bailiff of Birmingham in 1824
(g). James Ryland b. 3.12.1777 m 1 Mary Smith m2 Anne Minshall. Issue from both marriages (not shown)
(h). Elizabeth Ryland died an infant
(i). Mary Ryland (twin) died and infant
(j). Martha Ryland (twin) died and infant
3. Samuel Ryland b. 1736 d. 29.5.1817 m. Hannah Jeffreys 1743-22.8.1823. He served the office of low bailiff of Birmingham in 1796. 2 daus (a)-(b)
(a). Elizabeth Ryland 1770-8.5.1816 m Joseph Priestley eldest son of Rev Joseph Priestley LLD, FRS etc etc and had issue (not shown)
(b). Anne Ryland 1771-29.9.1815. Died unmarried
4. Elizabeth Ryland c1739-5.2.1816 m Thomas Phipson 1738-19.7.1807. 4 sons 2 daus (a)-(f)
(a). Thomas Phipson d. 1814 m Sarah Barroll. He served the office of low bailiff of Birmingham in 1811. 2 sons 2 daus (i)-(iv)
(i). Thomas Phipson 1769-5.4.1814
(ii). John Phipson 1775-18.4.1824
(iii). Sarah Phipson 1765-31.7.1826
(iv). Mary Phipson 1767-8.6.1829
(b). William Phipson m Elizabeth Clifford and had issue (not shown). He was a magistrate and served the office of low bailiff of Birmingham in 1818. There is also shown William Howell Phipson 1776-19.11.1843 whose wife was Sarah? 1787-21.11.1873, parents of A B Phipson “architect of this town”.
(c). John Phipson d. 1824 m Anne Smith 1768-11.1.1857
(d). Joseph-Weatherley Phipson m Sarah Price. He served the office of low bailiff of Birmingham in 1825 1 (known) son (i)
(i). Joseph Rodgers Phipson 1805-23.6.1824.
(e). Sarah Phipson died unmarried
(f). May Phipson died unmarried
5. Mary Ryland. Died unmarried
Grosvenor pedigree detail
Per Burkes Landed Gentry1838 {differences in curly brackets}
The Grosvenor pedigree is shown as-
Gilbert le Grosvenor, nephew of Henry Lupus, Earl of Chester
Robert le Grosvenor. {Robertus}
Henry le Grosvenor
Ralph le Grosvenor
Ralph le Grosvenor {omitted}
Richard le Grosvenor m1651 Penna dau of Wm Mowberley {Robert 1650}
Sir Robert le Grosvenor Kt, Lord of Hulme m Anna dau of Maynwaringe de Pever
Ralph le Grosvenor
Sir Robert le Grosvenor “he defended coat of arms against Richard Lord Scrope” m dau of Sir Robert Pulford Kt
Sir Thomas le Grosvenor, Lord of Hulme m dau of Sir Wm Phesant. 3 Sons 1-3
1. Robert Grosvenor, Lord of Hulme who died without male issue {shown as m Joane dau of Sir Jeffrey of Chedull Kt. 6 daus and co-heirs (a)-(f)
(a). m Peter Dutton of Dutton
(b). m John Leigh of The Booths
(c). m1 Richard Winnington 2 William Venables
(d). m Leyceter of Tabley
(e). m Sir William Standby Kt
(f). without issue}
2. Ralph Grosvenor {sometimes called Rawlin}
m {1} Joan sole dau and heir of John Eaton, of Eaton. From this Ralph descends the Marquis of Westminster. {m2 Dame Ellen, dau of Jenkin Manley – no issue from 2nd marriage} {Rolled pedigree shows this Ralph Grosvenor as having the 6 daus shown above under Robert Grosvenor}
3. Thomas Grosvenor m Elizabeth dau and co-heir of Richard Pershall of Chetwin.
1 (known) son (a)
(a). Randolph {Randulfe} Grosvenor of Bellaport m dau of Randolph Mainwaring of Caringham. 1 (known) son (i)
(i). Randolph Grosvenor of Bellaport m Anne dau of Wm Charlton of Appley [and had (at least), 2 sons (A and B below)- old text in this sq bracket]. 2 (known) sons [a]-[b]
[a]. Thomas Grosvenor of Bellaport & Brand m {Anne one of the daus of William Haywood of Stony Low} and had issue (details not shown)
[i]. William Grosvenor of Bellaport & Brand m dsu of Richard Maynwaringe of Spitfiled, no issue
[ii]. Richard Grosvenor of Brand m Ursulah dau of Francis Charlton of Appley.
1. William Grosvenor of Brand m1 Anne dau of John Shirley of Astwell, no issue m2 Margery dau of Thos Naylor of Winington:
(a). William Grosvenor (“now living 1640”)
(b). Robert Grosvenor of Eaton m dau of Richard Cotton of Rudwar Hamstall in Stafford:
(i). Sir Thomas Grosvenor of Eaton Kt m Maud dau of Sir William Poole of Poole Kt:
[a]. Thomas Grosvenor of Eaton m Ann dau Roger Bradshaw of London:
[i]. Richard Grosvenor m Christian dau of Richard Brooks of Norton:
1. Sir Richard Grosvenor of Eaton m Lettice dau of Lord Chomley:
(a). Richard Grosvenor “son and heir apparent”
[b]. Henry Grosvenor m dau of Wm Greaves Kt of Barton. 1 (known) son [i]
[i]. William Grosvenor {married dau of squire of Adbisson. 1 (known) sons 1
1. Robert Grosvenor *SEE BELOW FOR ALTERNATIVE VERSION m1 Hannah Stubbs (?-1707 m2 Mary Allen 4 sons, 3 daus. All except the 3rd son and 2nd dau by Hannah. (a)-(g)
(a). Thomas Grosvenor 4.11.1702-?
(b). John Grosvenor 31.5.1705-?
(c). Stephen Grosvenor 1707-?, sub treasurer of Christchurch, Oxford m Elizabeth dau of Rev Tu? Of Eccleshall. 1 son, 3 daus (i)-(iv)
(i). John Grosvenor of Oxford
(ii). Elizabeth Grosvenor
(iii). Sarah Grosvenor
(iv). Frances Grosvenor m Sir William Taunton kt of Freeland and clerk of the peace. Issue inc 1 son [a]
[a]. Sir William Elias? Taunton “one of the judges in the late majesties court of King’s “?
(d). Hannah Grosvenor 1697-?
(e). Elizabeth Grosvenor
(f). William Grosvenor m1 Mary Cathoreck m2 Mary dau and co-heiress of Richard Townsend of Ellerton Hall in Salop. 7 sons 4 dau. 1st two sons by m1, rest m2 (i)-(xi)
{i). William Cathoreck Grosvenor d young 1743
(ii). John Grosvenor m Mary Judgson d 1810 no issue
(iii). Richard Grosvenor
(iv). Charles Grosvenor
(v). Robert Grosvenor m Margaret Amory (his cousin)
(vi). Richard Townsend Grosvenor
(vii). Baderley-Friend Grosvenor
(viii). Mary Grosvenor m Samuel Pemberton of the Laurels, Edgbaston 6.2.1769 at Market Drayton. 4 sons, 7 daus [a].-[k]
[a]. Samuel Pemberton d 29.8.1836
[b]. Thomas Pemberton d 18.3.1830
[c]. Edwin Permberton
[d]. George Pemberton died young
[e]. Rebecca Pemberton died young
[f]. Mary Pemberton m Thomas Stokes and had issue (details not given)
[g]. Anne Pemberton m 8.3.1808 Samuel Ryland of Bearley and Sherbourne. 1 dau [i]
[i]. Louise-Anne Ryland
[h]. Sophia Pemberton1750-1825 m Charles Lloyd and had issue (not detailed), she died per one document 7.8.1830
[i]. Rebecca Pemberton m William Quintus Harding of Copeley and had issue shown on link
[j]. Louisa Pemberton died young
[k]. Caroline Pemberton died young
(ix). Anne Grosvenor 1748-1775 m Joseph Bradley, banker 1s
[i]. John Grosvenor Bradley b. Leek Staffs b. 3.5.1771
(x). Sophia d unmarried 1750-1825
(xi). Lucina Grosvenor 1757-? m 1779 Samuel Riddlesden
*THE ABOVE ROBERT GROSVENOR IS SHOWN IN THE HANDWRITTEN VERSION AS HAVING THE FOLLOWING WIFE AND DESCENDENTS m dau of William Brions of Sandbrook. 2 sons 2 daus (a)-(d)
(a). William Grosvenor m Elizabeth Wood, dau of Thomas Wood or Flood of Old Hall in Shropshire
(b). Soloman Grosvenor. Never married
(c). Dau m Mr Mainwaring
(d). Dau m Mr Black