Sargant, Chance and Lucas Families
Laura Sargant
William Septimus Harding married Laura Sargant.
Family trees showing Laura Sargant's ancestors, siblings and their descendants are shown in the linked here file Sargant Family Tree Vert and Text.xlsx Along the bottom, click on "Sargant Family Tree Text".
They are quite a challenge to download successfully and they contain a very large amount of content the accuracy of which must be uncertain! Here is how to unload it. Click on either of the attachments which will bring up what appears to be a small file. Click on the 3 dots (probably at the top right) and then on Download. That should show an Excel file at the bottom of the screen which you should click on. The Excel that file that comes up will either be the vertical or horizontal family tree. Some scrolling may be needed to find them (or start by Control-Home). The vertical and horizontal trees are two different pages on the same Excel file.
Distinguished and interesting members of these families
in rough chronological order with links to Wikipedia and other sites. ALL NOW TFD TO 3RD SECTION BELOW
Eminent people from the later generations include:
Detailed Family Tree etc re the Sargant, Chance and Lucas families
Sargants, Chances and Lucases are all thought to be Birmingham based. Probably all originally smallholder farmers who benefitted from the Industrial Revolution. Sargants were also manufacturers ---one probate reads as though of toys and swords (?), and may have had an involvement with B.S.A ie Birmingham Small Arms.
Some of what is contained below is from a limited edition book published in 1892 “CHANCE Of Bromsgrove and of Birmingham and the allied families of LUCAS AND HOMER” by James Frederick Chance (referred to below as “the Chance book"). We also have two notebooks kept by Laura Harding, nee Sargant, one described as a "birthday book" and the other saying it describes events.
William Septimus Harding married Laura Sargant whose pedigree included-
Laura's earliest ancestor known to us is her great-great grandfather William Sargant “of King’s Norton” (see p59 of Chance book). His wife was Mary per his will. According to the Chance book, the family had been prominent in the King’s Norton area (a suburb of Birmingham) for some time. It seems to be a co-incidence that five generations later, Prof. Philip Sargant Florence bought a large house (Highfield) in King’s Norton where he was host to a number of notable people including Louis MacNeice the Irish poet and playwright who rented a flat in the grounds.
William of Kings Norton had three sons, the first of whom, also William, is described in his father’s will as having disappeared. It is not known whether he ever reappeared and was therefore able to benefit from the will. The 3rd son was Thomas about which nothing is known. The 2nd son was Isaac Sargant (Laura's great grandfather), one of whose sons (or his only son or grandson as there is some evidence of an intermediate generation) was William Sargant 1769-1821 (Laura's grandfather) whose tree follows.
Married the granddaughter of Laura Sargant’s sister. In his time he was well known as a military historian with a particular talent for explaining military history on television. He was also Black Rod ie an important official responsible for administering the House of Lords. His short biography on Wikipedia shows him to have had an interesting and adventurous life.
Frank Sargant or Uncle Willie was a renowned sculptor who studied and lived in Rome and London. In his will, he left a bequest “to The British School of Rome all my freehold property known as Nos. 1 and 2S Molletta Studios being 19 and 21 Cheyne Row Chelsea aforesaid and I request such School (but without ..) to use such property for the purpose of providing studios for students on their return from the School at Rome for limited periods to enable such students time to obtain studios for themselves. I give to the said school at Rome all my sculptures and works of art contained in my said studios absolutely it being my hope that the said School at Rome will be able to sell or otherwise dispose of them rather than that they should be disposed by a forced sale”
Walter Sargant
Headmaster of Oakham School who commissioned frescoes from his sister, Mary
Mary Sargant Florence 1857-1954.
Artist especially known for her frescoes. Suffragette and campaigner for women and peace. She was part of an artists colony in Marlow and built Lord’s Wood (see attachment) which is understood to have since lost some aspects of its charm as a result of the “improvements” made by later owners.
The eldest of William Sargant’s sons was a notable educationalist as indicated by the link. The internet also provides this poem he wrote
Balthazar Walter Foster married Laura’s sister Emily Martha Sargant. He later became Sir Walter Foster and then the 1st Lord Ilkeston. Correspondence he had with Andrew Carnegie is described on the “Andrew Carnegie Connection” page. Ilkeston was a distinguished surgeon in Birmingham who became the MP for Chester and was then elevated to the House of Lords. His son, the 2nd Lord Ilkeston had no children so the Ilkeston title became extinct.
A brother of William Lucas Sargant was Thomas Sargant, several of whose children were prominent as shown below, including Edmund Beale, Sir Charles, Mary, Walter and Frank
William Sargant 1769-1821 m1799 Elizabeth Chance (b 1779 d 1850)
(See Chance and Lucas connection). 5s 4dau 1 – 9. Full Names taken mainly from p82-84 of the Chance book:
1. William Sargant died young
2. Sarah Sargant. 1801-1885 unmarried
3. William Lucas Sargant. 1809- 1.11.1899.
William Lucas Sargant 1801-1889 or 99
was the father of Laura Sargant. He wrote a number of books as indicated here including “Economy of the Labouring Classes” and “Essays of a Birmingham Manufacturer”. He seems to have been an industrialist who took an interest in the working class from a benign viewpoint. His books are out of copyright and can be read via Google on screen. His entry in the Dictionary of National Biography is here
Wrote “Essays of a Birmingham Manufacturer”. “Economy of the Labouring Classes” published in 1857 in London and shown as written in Birmingham. Also “the Science of Social Opulence”.
m1 1836 Maria Redfern 1812-1845 dau of William Redfern of Birmingham 1s 3dau (a)-(d) -
(a). Laura Sargant 1845-1926 m. 1866 William Septimus Harding- for their descendants see the main Harding Family tree here
(b). Maria Sargant. 1837- 23.1.1927 m1863 Arent de Peyster Chance 1836-1906. 1s 2dau (i) – (iii)
(i). Grace Eleanor Chance b. 1866, m1 James Guest Marshall d. 1889. 1s 1dau [a]-[b]
[a]. James Marshall d unmarried
[b]. Eleanor Elizabeth de Peyster Marshall m Thomas A Layton (founder of Layton’s Wine Merchants). 1s 1dau [i]-[ii]
[i]. (Thomas) George Layton b1937?
[ii]. Alice Layton m Mr Campbell?
m2 ?1914 Rev George Temple Miller died without issue
(ii). Theodora (Dolly) Chance 1871-1898 m Rev E M Madoc Jones. 1 Dau
[a]. Dorothy Madoc Jones b. 28.2.1898
(iii). Arent Schuyler de Peyster Chance 1863-14.1.1941 m 16.12.1909 Phyllis Marion Elsie Owen (witnesses Reginald T Harding and Marion Owen) 1884-1909. She died 24.3.1962 in South Africa. 1 son (information may not be complete) [a]
[a]. John de Peystor Chance b. 16.10.1912. Lived in South Africa
(c). Emily Martha Sargant 1841-1920 m 1864 Sir Balthazar Walter Foster, 1st Lord Ilkeston (1840-1913), see section on Foster, Ilkeston and Andrew Carnegie. 1s 3dau (i) – (iv)
(i). Balthazar Stephen Sargant Foster, 2nd Lord Ilkeston 1867-4.1.52 m 1901 Mildred Cobb, no issue
(ii). (Emily) Mary Foster 1865-11.1.1950 m 1889 Mr Fordham per Laura (Mrs Septimus Harding)'s birthday book 1s 1dau [a]-[b]
[a]. Geoffrey Foster Fordham April 1890-28.10.1901 per Laura's birthday book
[b]. Kathleen Mary Mildrette Fordham b. 1891 per Laura's birthday book
(iii) Margaret "Daisy" Foster b. 7.10.1872 m 1894 (Anthony Walter) Brook Kitchin c1869-1915 . Architect for Local Government Board. 1dau [a]
[a]. (Winifred) Nancy Brook 1900-1989 m 11.4.1928 Sir Brian Horrocks 1895-1985 who was for a period well known as a military historian with a talent for explaining such matters on television. He was also Black Rod ie an important official responsible for administering the House of Lords. See here for a description of his interesting and varied life. Nancy was an abstract artist. 1dau [i]
[i] Gillian Horrocks b 11.1.1929. Drowned in River Thames 1979 m Georges Lazar. 2s 1dau, Brook, Margaret and Anthony
(iv) Millicent Chance Foster b. 1875 m 1908 William Mansfield Poole 1s 2dau [a]-[c]
[a]. Evered Mansfield Poole b 3.11.1909 d 1982 Lt Col RA. (It seems possible that this article refers to perhaps a son although the spelling of Evered is different and only the one dau is mentioned in the Peerage genealogical survey. See link Maj Gen WHE Poole and his association with the Guards.doc
for relevant extract about Major General William Henry Everard Poole).
m Elizabeth Maitland Brabazon 1dau [1]
[1]. Catherine Elizabeth Poole b 7.1.53 m James Keith Forrester 1 son, 3 dau 1/ - 4/
1/. Anne-Marie Catherin Forrester b 1983
2/. Charlotte Antonia Forrester b 1986
3/. Alice Elizabeth Forrester b 1988
4/. Jack James Everard Forrester b 26.11.1994
[b]. Margaret Winifred Poole b. 1911 m Michael Searle? Lived in Australia
[c]. Antonia Mary Poole b 2.11.1915 (may have been m to below ie same person)
(d). William Sargant. Not on all pedigrees
m2 1855 Theodosia 1826-1914 one of 7 dau of Jonathan Nash - see separate section for Nash [to be written] 3s 2dau (a)-(e)
(a). Francis Lucas Sargant 1856-1937
(b). George Herbert Sargant 1859-1947
(c). Elizabeth Maud Sargant 1861-1944
(d). Arthur Edgar Sargant 1864-1934
(e). Mary Theodosia 1867-1903
4. George Sargant died young
5. Henry Sargant m (Catherine) Emma d. 1911, only dau of Samuel Beale of Russell Sq. 4s 4dau (a)-(h)
(a). Edmund Beale Sargant 1855-1938 m ?Marie. Civil Servant and Education Expert. No issue (assumed)
(b). Sir Charles Sargant, High Court judge
Sir Charles Henry Sargant 1856-1942 Married c1899 Amelia Julia Gambardella 1871-1961 (she had nursed him for a serious illness). High Court Judge. Portraits in NPG of Sir Charles and of Amelia. 1s 2dau (i)-(iii):-
(i) Millicent Sargant b. c1901 m. Dr Nourse. GP in Cambridge. 2s [a]-[b]
[a] Christopher Henry Nourse 7.6.30-6.12.2010. A distinguished doctor - see link here Christopher Nourse, Sargant connection, Merchant Taylors doc obituary from Merchant Taylor's magazine).
m1 Victoria m2 Jennie d 23.10.11. 3s 1dau from 1st marriage [1]-[4]
[1]. Richard
[2]. Olivia
[3]. Edmund
[4]. William
[b] Rt Hon, Sir Martin Nourse 1932-2017. High Court Judge
Son of Sir Charles Sargant’s daughter, Millicent. High Court judge. Sir Martin's picture from the Law Society's Gazette is linked here
In 2012 Lady Lavinia Nourse, his widow, was accused, tried and acquitted of a sexual crime many years earlier that involved a male who was a junior at the time. The BBC report is here
(ii). Janet Sargant. Married Mr Brown? 2 Sons 2 Daughters [a]-[d]
[a]. Anthony Brown
[b]. Charles Brown
[c]. Susan Emma Brown m John Guy
[d]. Jane Brown
(iii) Sir (Henry) Edmund Sargant President of Law Society. See link here about a portrait of him in the National Portrait Gallery. 1s [a]
[a] James Edmund Sargant owner of the Watermill Theatre m Jill Fraser, 2 Children
(c). Mary Sargant (21.7.1857-11.12.1954). Artist. Married Henry Smyth Florence. They used the family name of “Sargant Florence”. 1s 1dau (i)-(ii)
(i) Prof. Philip Sargant Florence. CBE. Economist. Wrote books which are still included in syllabuses of economics students. Born 1890. Ed Rugby School. Married 22.9.1917 Lella Faye Secor (13.2.1887-1966). 2 Sons [a]-[b]
Son of Mary Sargant Florence and husband of Lella Secor. He wrote a number of books and lectured in America and England. He was an economist whose specialities included topics similar to those that had interested his great uncle William Lucas Harding who also lived in Birmingham. Like his wife, he was a political activist, supporting the Labour Party in Birmingham and Cambridge. His obituary is linked here. A description and picture of the family is on this link which is about Highfield. The family picture was actually taken at Lords Wood (not Highfield) and Noel should have been described as being to the left of Anthony. A member of the Sargant Florence family informs me that she believes there are several other inaccuracies on that site.
[a]. Noel Florence b 1918. Ed. Dartington Hall m1. Barbara Moench m2. Jo Standley. She died 2007. 2s [i]-[ii]
[i]. David Florence (son of Barbara). 2s 1dau 1-3
1/ Jocelyn Florence
2/ Bennett Florence
3/ Nicholas Florence
[ii]. Richard Florence (son of Barbara)
[b] Anthony David Florence 1920-2008. Ed. Dartington Hall. 6 dau [i]-[vi]
[i]. Tamara Elkind. Lives in London
[ii]. Penelope Florence m Tom Franklin. Div’d
[iii]. Megan Florence b. c1950
[iv]. Victoria Florence
[v]. Christina Florence
[vi]. Cynthia Florence m Frank Livoti. Div’d Twin son and dau 1-2
1/ Keegan Livoti
2/ Hanna Livoti
(ii) Alix Sargant Florence 4.6.1892-28.4.1972., ed. Bedales and Cambridge. Married 1920 James Strachey d 1967, one time assistant editor of the Spectator and brother of Lytton Strachey. Members of “Bloomsbury Set”. No Issue. Alix and James were both psychoanalysts and translated Freud’s works. Photo here from National Portrait Gallery
An American born to a humble family, she became a journalist who seems to have become an ardent campaigner for causes as a result of being sent in 1916 by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer to cover the voyage of the Henry Ford Peace ship which was sent to Europe to campaign against US involvement in the 1st World War. She turned from being a reporter to becoming a leading organiser in various peace and similar movements in the US. She continued throughout her life campaigning for peace, the rights of women and was a fervent advocate for the pill when, as the Chair of the Birmingham Family Planning Association without authority arranged for the pill to be tested, advertising for married women to volunteer as guinea pigs.
From 1929 until its demise, Highfield was the home of Prof. Philip Sargant Florence, Director of Social Studies at the University and Professor of Economics, with his wife Lella who 'had a charming smile, violent red hair and vitality,' according to MacNeice. She worked in Birmingham promoting family planning, and seems to have spent the 1930s using Highfield as the centre of Birmingham's “alternative Bloomsbury”
Daughter of Mary Sargant Florence. Married 1920 James Strachey 1887- 1967 who was assistant editor of the Spectator and the brother of Lytton Strachey. Members of the Bloomsbury Set. They were both psychoanalysts and translated Freud’s works into English. Photo in National Portrait Gallery here.
(d). Alice Sargant d. 1909 per Laura? Poet. No Issue
(e). Ethel Sargant. Botanist. No Issue
(f). Walter Sargant. Head Master of Oakham School, Rutland. No Issue
(g). Frank William Sargant (10.1.1870-1960). Sculptor. No Issue
(h). Maud Sargant d. 1910. No Issue
6. Edward Homer Sargant d 23.2.1887 m1855 Caroline Chance 1819-1902 (his cousin).
It was Mrs Caroline Chance to whom James Frederick Chance M.A. gave his book on the Chance, Lucas and Homer families and inscribed it “from her cousin the Author 28 Nov 1892”.
Son “Mental” – per pencil note
(a). E Homer Sargant 1856-1903 per Laura's birthday book.
7. Elizabeth Sargant unmarried, died in her 60th year
8. Ann Sargant m Joseph Rock of Birmingham
Son b1832
9. Louisa Sargant died young
More on the Chance and Lucas Families
Chances, Lucases and Sargants were probably all Birmingham based, originally smallholder farmers who benefitted from the Industrial Revolution. Chance glassworks were well known. Lucas may have been the ones of that name that eventually made light bulbs. What follows is mainly from the Chance Book. The Chance book has now been scanned and the entire book can be found on this website.
It is also available from this link.
And a searchable version on this link (To carry out a search, from the downloaded file, click on the icon top left, then "About this book", scroll down to PDF format. When it has downloaded in that format, Control-F, enter search term etc in the normal way)
Clement Lucas living in 1638. 2s 1-2
1. Clement Lucas m Anne 2dau(a)-(b).
(a). Anne Lucas
(b). Marie Lucas
2. William Lucas m Rebbekah. 1s 4dau (a)-(e)
(a). Elizabeth Lucas m1 Horne, m2 Hancox. 2 dau by 1st marriage (i)-(ii)
(i). Elizabeth Horne
(ii). Jone Horne
(b). Rebecka Lucas m John Chamberlain
(c). Mary Lucas m Green. 1s 1dau (i)-(ii)
(i). Edward Green
(ii). Judeth Green
(d) Jone Lucas m Thomas Southam
(e). Clement Lucas m Dorothy. 1s 1dau (i)-(ii)
(i). Elizabeth Lucas
(ii). Clement Lucas b 1663 or 1668 d 1757 m Elizabeth dau of John Tibbatts of Rowington. Continued immediately below
Clement Lucas of Rowington then Feckenham Park, Worcester, b 1663 or 1668 d1757 m 1691 Elizabeth dau of John Tibbatts. 8s 2dau. 1-10 (rough tree has 6s)
1. Clement Lucas of Hadzor then “the Pump House” Hanbury b 1693 m1 Anne dau of Wm Libby m2 Anne relict of Robert Penrice m3 Sarah 4s3dau (a)-(g)
(a). Clement Lucas of Hanbury b 1726 m Elizabeth 3s 3dau. (i)-(vi)
(i). Clement Lucas (not on rough list)
(ii). John Lucas
(iii). Robert Lucas
(iv). Anne Lucas m Robert Cotterell
(v). Sarah Lucas
(vi). Rebecca Lucas m John Michael Sylvester
(b). William Lucas of Hanbury b 1728 d1790 m Catherina. 1dau (i)
(i). Ann Lucas
(c). Robert Lucas b1736
(d). John Lucas 1732-1749
(e). Dorothy Lucas b 1722 m1 Francis Richards m2 Timothy Smith
(f). Elizabeth Lucas m John Tovey or Toovey. “Numerous Issue”
(g) Margaret Lucas b 1734 m William Felton. “Issue”
2. John Lucas of Hanbury m ? 1dau (a)
(a). Mary Lucas m John Saunders of Gloucester, then Grafton Lodge, Bromsgrove. 2 sons, 2 daughters (i)-(iv) same as 7 (a) to (d) below ie John, Thomas, Sarah, Elizabeth – Can’t both be right. Book says John Saunders married Mary Lucas and records Elizabeth (below) as not being married in 1749.
3. Thomas Lucas of Ipsley, Redditch 1700-1776 m? 2s 1dau (a)-(c)
(a). William Lucas of Redditch m ? 1dau (i)
(i) Catherine Lucas m Georg Sylvester
(b). Thomas Lucas of Bristol (Lucas Hall, Marsh St), Cooper d1784 m Sarah 3s 1 dau (i)-(iv)
(i) Robert Lucas
(ii). Thomas Lucas
(iii) William Lucas
(iv) Elizabeth Lucas “prob married” Richard Pearsall
(c). Daughter
4. William Lucas of Hanbury b1695 m Dorothy
5. Samuel Lucas m? 2 sons, 4 daughters (a)-(f)
(a) Samuel Lucas
(b). William Lucas of Nicholas St, Bristol, Cooper
(c). Frances Lucas
(d). Margaret Lucas m Partridge
(e). Sarah Lucas “probably married” Lloyd of Worcester
(f). Mary Lucas “probably married” Granger of Bristol
6. Margaret Lucas b 1703 m Jonathan Nash younger son of Goodwin Nash of Bromsgrove 4s 4dau (a)-(h)
(a). William Nash
(b). Lucas Nash
(c). Jonathan Nash of Bristol 1737-1805 m Frances dau of Robert Lucas his 1st cousin. 3s (2 died in infancy) 4 dau (i)-(vii)
(i). Elizabeth Nash b1764 m William Comer. 1dau [a]
[a]. Frances Comer
(ii). Frances Maria Nash 1766-1773
(iii). Ann Vernon Nash of Clifton 1776-1866
(iv). Jonathan Nash 1779-1845 m Frances 3rd dau of David and Mary Onion. The book informs us that they had 12 children and “among their children are Mr Thompson Nash, Miss Anne Nash and Mrs William Sargant". Mrs William Sargant would be Theodosia Nash b. 1827 who was the 2nd wife of William Sargant 1809-1899, the latter being the father (from his 1st wife Maria Redfern) of Laura Sargant who married William Septimus Harding. Later information from the Bristol librarian via Malcolm Gain, a gt gt grandson of Robert Lucas Nash (below), provides details of those living at 2 Lower Park Road in 1841 and dates of birth of 2s 6dau [a]-[h]
[a]. Robert Lucas Nash I 1818-1871 m 1849 Emma Amelia Simmons.c1825-c1871 He denounced the 'creative accounting' of Railway Companies at the time of the Great Railway Mania of the late 1840s ( cf https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1625738 ).
1s 1dau [i]-[ii]
[i]. Florence Emma Nash b. c1849 m ?
[ii]. Robert Lucas Nash II c1846-1920 m 1870 Alice May Ellen Burr 4s 2dau (1-6). He also had four daughters by Margaret Helena Yoxall (7-10), 3 of whom ie Dorothy Margaret, Florence and Esther were born in London and the fourth, Rosalind was born in Sydney. He emigrated to Sydney, NSW, Australia in the early 1890s to take up an appointment as Financial Editor of the then prestigious Australian newspaper the Daily Telegraph. He wrote several books, some of which are still available as reprints. See here - https://www.google.fr/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Robert+Lucas+Nash%22
1. Robert Lucas Nash III b 1 Jan 1873 (died young)
2. Valentine Clifford Nash b. 14 Feb 1875 d 6 Jul 1953
3. Frank Thompson Nash b. 25 Oct 1876 d. 29 May 1942 m1906 Ada K Collins 1s 2dau
(a) Robert Lucas Nash IV b 1912 d 5 Aug 1982 m 1939 Kathleen Margaret Willmott
4. Lilian Alice Nash b. 7 Jun 1876
5. Felix Lionel Ernest Nash b. 5 Mar 1881 m 1919 Una E Curtis
6. Dorothy Marion Nash b. b. 3 May 1887 d 1950 m 1914 Harry W. McKeown
7. Dorothy Margaret Nash “Dot” b 2 Jun 1887 d 17 Dec 1970 m Len Cheatle
8. Florence Ellen Nash b 7 Apr 1889 d 11 Oct 1988 m 1911 William Ralph Phillips Smith, 3s 1dau
(a). Gwen Smith m Bruce Gain 5s incl Malcolm Gain: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gain-30
9. Esther Mary Nash b 21 Sep 1892 d 16 Apr 1978 m 1915 Frederick Harold Terrey
10.Rosalind May Nash b 17 Nov 1896 d 16 Aug 1977 m Arthur Elbourne Smith
[b]. Emma Nash b. 1821
[c]. Ann Nash b. 1823
[d]. Theodocia Nash b. 1827 m William Lucas Sargant 1809-1889 or 99. See earlier for their children including Laura who married William Septimus Harding. Sometimes spelt Theodosia.
[e]. Katherina Nash b. 1829
[f]. Henry Nash b. 1831
[g]. Helen Nash b. 1833
[h]. Harriet Nash b. 1835
(v). Robert Lucas Nash 1781-1784
(vi). Frances Nash 1784-1861
(vii). Clement Nash 1785-1785
(d). Clement Nash
(e). Jane Nash m Steward
(f). Ann Nash m Vernon
(g). Margaret Nash m Andrews
(h). Elizabeth Nash m Deakin
7. Elizabeth Lucas b 1692 m Mr Saunders of Grafton Lodge, Worcester. 2s 2dau (a)-(d)
(a). John Saunders d unmarried
(b). Thomas Lucas Saunders of Hanbury
(c). Elizabeth Saunders m Robert Smith of the Grove, Edgbaston. “3 children living”
(d). Sarah Saunders Married Mr Morgan?
8. Joseph Lucas b C1701 (not in rough tree but in book)
9. Benjamin Lucas d 1716 (not in rough tree but in book)
10.. Robert Lucas 1705-1775 m Elizabeth Butler (Barton on rough tree) 1715-1780 dau of John Butler of Bromsgrove. 5s 7dau. (a)-(l)
(a). Frances Lucas. Married Jonathan Nash. “3 dau without issue. Numerous issue living. Only son, Jonathan”. For more see under 6 (c) above.
(b). Elizabeth Lucas m James Lockier of Bristol “Upholder”. Rough tree says “13 dau all died without issue”. Book (p91) lists 9dau (i)-(ix)
(i). Elizabeth Lockier
(ii). Frances Lockier d 1846 m George Gee, “no issue”
(iii). Sophia Lockier d 1832 m Henry Cooke of Hampstead, a London merchant and brother of Isaac the family solicitor at Bristol probably named Cooke, Prince & Co with whom Robert Lucas Chant had business relations. 7 children (no details)
(iv). Rebecca Lockier
(v). Mary Anne Lockier d 1822 aged 46
(vi). Harriet Lockier d 1839 m Daniel Prince of Hendon “No Issue”
(vii). Sarah d 1840
(viii). Charlotte d 1825
(ix). Louisa d 1828 aged 46
(c). Ann Lucas 1746-1809 m1 Thomas Manley. 1dau (i)
(i). Elizabeth Manley 1771-1809,
m1 Rev Robert Foster, Vicar of Wells Cathedral and Sutton Bonnington, Notts d 1836. 3 sons, 4dau [a]-[g]
[a]. Elizabeth Josepha Foster1794-1873
[b]. General Thomas Foster RE 1796-1872 m Mary Ann dau of Major Bretton
[c]. Lucy Catharine Foster 1797-1803
[d]. Arabella Fanny Foster 1799-1823
[e]. Robert Foster b and d 1800
[f]. Susanna Foster 1802-1841 m Rev Charles Ward, Vicar of Maulden. “Issue”
[g]. Robert Foster 1804-1842 Capt Bombay Engineers m Susan Augusta Phillott
m2. Henry Pater of Bristol d 1822. 1 Son, 2 Daughters [h]-[j]
[h]. Ann Pater 1785-1865 m George Watson Pritchett d 1825. “No Issue”
[i]. Thompson Pater 1787-1833. “died unmarried at Naples”
[j]. Eliza Pater 1790-1875 m William Robertson, Rear-Admiral d 1861. “No Issue”
(d). Mary Lucas 1748-1830 m Edward Homer (his 2nd m, the first was to Sarah dau of John Chance). 2s 3dau (i)-(v)
(i). Edward Homer died in infancy
(ii). Elizabeth Homer “unmarried”
(iii). James Edward Homer 1783-1856 m Harriet dau of Thomas Gee of Bristol. 4s 4dau [a]-[h]
[a]. Thomas Edward Homer, died young
[b]. Henry Homer m Caroline Parkinson
[c]. Charles Gee Homer m cousin Frances Matilda Gee
[d]. Thomas Edward Homer m1 Annie Price, m2 Rosetta Andrews
[e]. Harriet Gee Homer, unmarried, d 1891
[f]. Louisa Homer m Jonathan Gray
[g]. Emily m George Adams
[h]. Frances Maria – 2nd wife of her cousin John Homer Chance
(iv). Maria Homer 1786-1858 m1 John Burton m2 Frederick Charles Burton both sons of William Burton of Clifden, Co Clare
(v). Louisa Homer 1787-1873 m 1811 her cousin Robert Lucas Chance 1782-1865 “. He and his brother William gave their names to Chance Brothers - see Wikipedia link here. "4 Children living, one being Mrs Edward (or Edwin?) Sargant.see** below
(e). John Robert Lucas 1754-1828 m Anna dau of John Adams. 1s 2dau (i)-(iii)
(i). John Lucas 1783-1817
(ii). Louisa Lucas 1791-1807
(iii). Emma Lucas 1797-1875 m Reginald Henry Bean son of Sylvester Bean and Mary nee Robbard
(f)-(k) Robert, Elizabeth, John, Margaret, Robert, Robert all of whom died in infancy
(l). Sarah Lucas b19.8.1756 d7.9.1809. m 30.6.1778 William Chance of Bromsgrove (or Birmingham), founder of Chance Brothers, glassmakers b27.5.1749 buried St Pauls, Birmingham. d2.5.1802 (or 21.3.1828). Brother of Thomas Chance who died 20.6.1774. and left the residue of this estate to Wm Chance after legacies to his nephew (Wm Chance), Edward Homer (husband of his niece). Wm Chance’s will included bequests etc to Sarah Homer, a great niece (unless she married without her guardian’s consent), Edward Homer, a nephew and William Chance, a nephew who also received the residue of the estate. 5 son 5 dau See Chance Book p79 (excl 2 s, 1 dau died in infancy). (i)-(x). There is a reference to a 6th son, Sargant Chance being one of the mourners at Sarah's funeral as William's private diary records "..mourners our five sons and also our son Sargant ..."
(i). Elizabeth Chance. b 26.4.1779 (or 1769) d 1850 m 1799 William Sargant 1769-1821. See in above
More on the Chance and Lucas families
Detailed Family Tree and other information concerning the Sargant, Chance and Lucas families 9 children shown above
(ii). Robert Lucas Chance. b8.10.1782 d7.3.1865 m 7.11.1811 Louisa dau of Edward Homer ee ** above. 5s 5dau [a]-[j]. See article "Robert Lucas Chance: Glassmaker" about him and the business.
[a]. Sarah Louisa Chance b26.5.1813 d1845 unmarried
[b]. Mary Ann Chance b2.4.1814 d1847 unmarried
[c]. Edward Chance b1815 died in infancy
[d]. Emily Chance b22.10.1817 die in her 13th year
[e]. Caroline Chance 10.7.1819-1902 m1855 Edward Homer Sargant, her first cousin
[f]. Robert Lucas Chance b18.9.1821m Fanny Elizabeth eldest dau of Abel Peyton of Birmingham and had issue incl
[i]. John Homer Chance b1837 m Cornelia
1. Ernest Chance
(a). Geoffrey Barrington Chance
[ii]. Arthur Lucas Chance b1853
1. Walter Lucas Chance b1880
2. Geoffrey Robert Chance
[g]. Edward Homer Chance b14.1.1824 d11.8.1824
[h]. Frank Chance b1826? M Jane Susan Katharine, 2nd dau of James Brewster of Huntingdon and Brapton and had issue
[i]. John Homer Chance b1827? Married 1st Cornelia de Payster Chance (his cousin) 2nd Frances Maria 4th dau of James Edward Homer. Issue by 1st marriage
[j]. Sophia b18.9.1829 d1830
(iii). William Chance b29,8,1788 m Phoebe dau of James Timmins 6s 3dau [a]-[i]
[a]. Eliza Chance b10.1.1813 m10.1.1856 John Unett (his 2nd wife). No issue
[b]. Sir James Timmins Chance 1st Bt 18.3.1814-1901 m 25.6.1845 Elizabeth dau of George Ferguson. Sir James was a philanthropist who gave £50,000 to Birmingham University and West Smethwick Park to the public. 3s 7dau incl
[i]. Sir William Chance 2nd Bt 1853-1935 m Julia Charlotte Strachey no issue
[ii] James Frederick Chance 1856-1938
[c]. William Chance b7.8.1815 d1862 m 1846 Mary Elizabeth dau of John Frederick Ledsam and had issue
[d]. Sarah Chance b15.5.1817 m 20.5.1842 Charles Rogers Cope of Matchley, Harborne. Had Issue
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Son
[e]. George Chance b22.12.1818 m 1853 Mary 2nd dau of Rev. George Richard Downard and had issue
[f]. Frederick Chance b1821died in his 21st year, unmarried
[g]. Edward Chance b28.10.1824 m 1850 Maria Isabella 3rd dau of Joseph Ferguson MP of Carlisle and had issue
[h]. Henry Chance b26.5.1828 m Mary Letitia eldest dau of George Latham Bennett of Glenefy Co. Tipperary and had issue
[i]. Phoebe Louisa Chance b6.10.1830 m 1859 m Rev Richard Ferguson 2nd Son of George Ferguson
(iv). Charlotte Chance b5.5.1796 died unmarried
(v). Caroline Chance b20.5.1798 d2.2.1878 died unmarried
(vi). Sarah Chance b14.5.1800 d1885 m James Wells, no issue
(vii). George Chance b26.7.1790 d16.9.1881? m Cornelia Maria dau of Arent Schuyler de Peyster. 5 Sons, 4 Daughters. [a]-[i]9 children
[a]. Cornelia de Peyster Chance b29.3.1827 d20.1.1867 m John Homer Chance
[b]. Henrietta Louse Chance b8.1.1829 died in childhood
[c]. Sarah Lucas Chance b7.7.1831 m Robert Power 1865 and had issue
[d]. George Chance b1831 d11.7.1834
[e]. George Chance b1835 d27.8.1836
[f]. Arent de Peyster Chance b27.12.1836 d 1862 m Maria Sargant (eldest daughter of his cousin William Lucas Sargant) and had issue
[g]. Maria Louisa Chance b28.7.1840 m Rev. Henry Cave-Brown-Cave Vicar of Edington, Wilts and had issue
[h]. William Edward Chance b12.8.1842 m Laura 4th daughter of T. Thorneycroft Kesteven and had issue
[i]. Alexander Macomb Chance b1844 m Florence dau of Major Arthur Hill and had issue
(viii). Edward Chance of London b17.6.1792 died 4.11.1860?
(ix). Henry Chance b29.9.1794 d1876? m Maria Ann no issue or 6 children
(x). Maria Chance b1803 d1880? Spinster
[iii] George Ferguson Chance 1853-1935 m (Mary) Kathleen Stobart 3s 1dau 1-4
1. Katherine Dorathea Chance
2. Sir Roger James Ferguson Chance 3rd Bt 1893-1987 m Mary Georgina Rowney. He was Press Attache in Berlin 1938. 2s 2dau (a)-(d)
(a). Anthony Ferguson Chance 1923-1970 unmarried
(b). Sir (George) Jeremy (ffolliott) Chance, 4th Bt 1926-2017 m Cecilia "Tiggy" Mary Elizabeth Chance 2s 2dau (i)-(iv)
(i). Victoria Katherine Elizabeth Chance b. 1952
(ii). Sir (John) Sebastian Chance 5th Bt b. 1954 m Victoria Mary McClean 2s 1dau [a]-[c]
[a]. Madeleine Katharine Eustacia Chance
[b]. Thomas Hugh Jeremy Chance b. 1983
[c]. Michael John Ferguson Chance
(iii). Helena Mary ffolliott Chnce b. 1957
(iv).Roger William Tobias "Toby" Chance b. 1960
(c). Serena Mary Benedicta Chance 1928-1994 m Robert Temple Armstrong, Baron Armstrong of Ilminster div 1985 2dau (i)-(ii)
(i). Jane Orland Armstrong b. 1954
(ii). Teresa Brigid Armstrong b. 1957
(d). Teresa Margaret Chance b. 1930 m George Gilbert Kennedy 2s (i)-(ii)
(i). Seamus Michael ffolliott Chance b. 1963
(ii). Miles Thomas Pitt b. 1965
3. Sir (William) Hugh (Stobart) Chance 1896-1981 m1 Cynthia May Baker-Cresswell div 1961 m2 Rachel Cameron. Director of Chance Brothers. 2s 3dau (a)-(e)
(a). (Kathleen) Idonea (Cresswell) Chance . 1927 5 children from 2 marriages
(b). Cecilia Mary Elizabeth Chance 1928-2015 m her cousin Sir George Jeremy ffolliott Chance, 4th Bt b. 1926. See above under Sir George for descendants
(c}. (William) John Ferguson Chance b. 1929 m twice, 4 children, lives/d in South Africa
(d). Bridget Nicola Chance b. 1931 m Rt Rev. John Richard Gordon Eastaugh 3 children
(e). Hugh Nicholas Chance b. 1940 m Sue Lucas? 3 children lives/d California
4. 2nd Lt Eustace George St Clair Chance 1899-1918