About John Paul

250kB/20F06^^^='==ORIG==1==ABOUT==JOHN==I==Started in

20f06 tired. stoped at F2 Finance

2005==edited==May==2018==

Sorry, I did not translate it into BALKANSKI.

Contents:

Origianl

About John Paul - may be a duplicate

All my cotributions

BUSiness CULture

Cases

Chetnicks WW2/Yugoslavia

Comam by me

DRIVING error etc

Honest and Truth undetacable

In Balkanian [languge]

Pico Inova

Pogledaj skroz dole <'/> BALK, za malo na balkanskom

='===MY==WHEREABOUTS======

THE VISITOR FROM ANDROMEDA

I am now 82, and I only realized a week ago that, the best way to introduce myself is to say my whereabouts.

Andromeda's life expectancy is 800 years, so I am not about to expire soon.

You, the earthiens live in the Milky Way Galaxy, just next to ours. Astronomers say in some future, our two Galaxies will unite, and my Andromeda Governement, maybe sent me here, to your planet to explore what chances are to turn your planet from warriors one to ABSOLUTE NONVIOLENCE, which is the case on our Andromeda

I don't like to dissapoint you, dear neighbors, but I did not find much chance, Most of you are actually inclined to peace, but as soon as your leaders call you for a war, you readily rush for it.

Facing two option, to quit, or continue ttrials to change this, I decided for the latter one, and that's me now.

--whereabouts---

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='==GENERAL====

John Paul (80) Toronto, ON xyu381@gmail.com guaranted by

Me and my faulks : JP_Family_2014.jpg

Check the side pane for more. Most text is still waiting for editing. Apologize for that.

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*: To see details search for the asterisk followed by the next character, for example: *n

*Name: Jon Pol

*Interests: Buddha, Jesus- Fox , Non quis, sed quid, Lord of the Flies,

*Formal Education: Forget it. Experience is what matters.

By Experience ( just Semi Skills): Mechanic, electrician, plumber, child supporter...

*Family: A son and a daughter, both MS in Engineering;; Four grand kids grade 6 and 9]

Languages; Prime: Balkanian;; Secondary: English/ESL';; Modest: Russian, French, German

*Tollerance : nearly UNLIMITED *paraExperience: 300 years

Employment history:

*2006 - now: retired

1998-2006: Superintendent with Julian Bower. Toronto Dentist and renter of several small apartment buildings. I was super in one of them.

1963-1998: Metal Construction and Maintenance in different Industrial plants, such as:

AZOTARA, Panccevo/ Yugoslavia , MINEL Belgrade/Yugos. IMR, Belgrade/Yugoslavia

Hobbies:

- Human relations, like Unlimited **Tolerance [No fines for something one forgot; Driving documents, paying for parking spot]

- Safety general; especially kids . Or diminishing assumed dangers

- Technology, especially DIY, Innovations, Electronics, ...

- Woodwork, car mechanics, plumbing,....

Political views:

- Explicitly Neutral. Fan of Non-Resistance but active citizen participation in all aspects of community life. Canada as is, only lawful changes are welcomed. possibly initiated by studies and confirmed by a testing period.

--general-----

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Upper text is sufficient, but if you like more, just proceed....

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='===BELOW==&==DETAILS====

Read what follows, at your own risk ...[of loosing a few minutes]

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*2006 - now: retired, assisting my four grand kids. Transportation and not negligible life coaching.

*Formal Education: BSc in Engineering - Belgrade, Yugoslavia. Semi skills are more important electrician, Mechanic

*I Interests: ... "Non Quis, sed QUID .." means: Forget Dr, Mr, PhD...

*name: aka Don Bas. Legal: Dobrosav Basaric Contact: w381@yahoo.ca or xyu381@gamil.com

*paraExperience: 300 years; People mostly gaether experience from the birth onward. What you get otherwise can be viewed as paraExperience.

*R: by personal choice (not by birth) . Synonim: Not much known: Buddhists are atheist. Parents: Baptists. Grand Parents: Christian.

*Tollerance : nearly UNLIMITED. Not always a better option, but it's my lifetime fate. Hopefully will change with centuries:)))

.Tollerance: NO PUNISHMENT, but FULL TRUTH to be told asap. You punch my nose. I don't sue you, but tell you ...

(ct'd from above)

[*] BSc in Engineering; has nothing to do with my set-of-mind. It only helped me to get in contact with many different people, In different continent.

Of all the books I consulted, Jesus biography (Gospels) is the best one. And I admire that young man from such a long past, though he was formally uneducated .

"Non Quis sed Quid" [ancient Roman: "Forget the title of the speaker and concentrate on what the guy is speaking"]

**Tolerance in Traffic; is my hobby on its own, but it can also serve as an explanation of the word "tolerance" in my ESL vocabulary. Examples about lane change on hi-ways, like 401:

When you see lane change signal - blinking, and you release your gas pedal in ...

4 - less than 1/10 of a sec, your tolerance level is "A" [excellent]

3 - if it takes about 1/2 of a sec, it's"B" [very good]

2 - if it is closer to 1 sec, you are only "C" [good enaough]

1 - If 3 or more sec,you are s "D" [better do something to get better ]

If you increase your speed even by a mere 5%, and thus prevent the guy to change to your lane, you are potential danger on the road. Endangering yourself too.

Talk about this to your best friends, regardless to the fact that this is still normal now. And in accordance with the Law.

No one on Andromeda needs more than 0.1 sec.

In my poor opinion this intolerance guidelines are much more dangerous than passing a red light when you are the only one on that intersection. People occasionally miss to "recognize the "RED", But no specific, nor potential danger. The Law enforcement will readily ticket this, but never potentially dangerous overtaking the blinking turn signal.

Because of this and similar experience in traffic, I do favor the change in Law and/or Enforcement to make the traffic less potentially dangerous.

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More details

Born: 1937 in Kragujevac, xYugoslavia

Primary&Secondary school: Bechey (Beccej), xYugoslaiva

Work expereince:

1981-1998 Purchasing person, "Azotara" Panccevo

1971-1981 Site engineer, Machinery installation "Minel" xBelgrade, xYu

1968-1971 Prototype engineer "Perkins of Yugoslavia", Belgrade, xYu

1966-1968 Mainentance engineer, "Jugofund", Belgrade, xYugoslavia

1964-1966 Design engineer, "Fadip" Becej, xYugoslavia

Short terms assignments places:

- 1970 Libya. Benghazi; Power plant shift leader,

- 1976 Iraq. Akashat; Phosphate mine; construction Site Manager,

- 1992 Libya. Sahara Desert; Oil field camp A/C technician, ,

';;

- Only for those extremely interesting in the matters of Politics

- Dual democracy [DD]. Existing D. is OK or at least natural. But direct

democracy is an option everyone should consider. There are some

endemics areas experimenting with DD. In Canada too.

For us, the common people, no much difference which

political regime is in power. Between the two giants of these days,

Capitalism and Communism, no much difference, for common

people, but Capitalism is natural and communism is "adopted".

Most people in the Western Civilization consider Communism as

darker than devil, but it is too simplified thinking. Can be OK only

for those living outside Communism. If you have to live under C.

regime, this attitude can only put you in trouble and years in prison.

Fortunately C. ceased its ugly actions in recent decade or two.

I favor a combination of these two systems. Capitalism demonstrated

more tollerence in political matters and it is not a minor thing. Communism

proved that a society can exists even if the capital is not free and income

difference of people is symbolic. (1:10)

Unfortunately, mother History, is not inclined towards coexistence of confronted

countries even within the same type of social and political arrangment, and if you

add on top, that tremendous difference in political sysems, no much hope is left. So our

civilization is probably facing an imminent show down between super powers.

With all those nukes, it's a really bleak future.

And the most urgent problem of our planet, overpopulation is heavily

neglected by both social systems. And it's the only way out of poverty.

While any kind of non-violent co-existence between the two giants was only naive,

during all past centuries, it is now days at least worth some consideraton. Unfortunately

I don't see it in function. Some cosmetics is there, but it's nothing.

Ancient Romans sayings:

Audiatur et altera pars [Listen to the other side too]

Non quis sed quid [Not who but what is said]

When it comes to wrong judgment by an official, in many cases the cause is

missing to implement this ancient wisdom. Official mostly go by established

culture. It was OK for earlier centuries, without nukes. Now and again at least

a thorough consideration is minimum of what we have to do.

Half a century ago, a Swedish pshycologyst found that most conflicts

between common people originate in misunderstanding (misapprehension).

I, myself witnessed it many, many times.

Is it maybe the same case between our rulers?

--below---

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'/ Now continues what is ...

...Not yet ready for presentation, but read it if you like.

='==JUNK==yyzDonBas===

I was born as Dobrosav Basaric and it is still my legal name, but I mostly use my shorter

... nicknames: Don Bas. Some people know me as: Lala , Mali, Deda doobra [Dd]...

I am a 100% open person. I never had any secrets of any kind except a couple negligable,

ones towards my family, like flight training. I'll supply those too to anyone outside my family.

This statment about Secrecy is triggered by a recent case of a young man who pushed me

to remove our email correspondance from this public site. I relucantly moved it to privete one,

though I found nothing that deserves privacy. But I also like to meet any ones wishes if possible.

Though I prefer open communication, if you are like that boy, please express it explicitely.

So I can decide weather I'll continue communication with you or not.

Still I understand many people do have secrets. If you work for the Secret Service of your

own country, it's OK. Actually it is not so simple, but that's what German President

Mrs Merkel said. I understand Merkel simply as "Some people earn for living by working for

Secret Service". Most earn working for public businesses. If it is OK to work for SS,

as Merkel says, it must be the same or even more OK to be fully open and never have a secret.

I recently asked a RE agent "How much do you earn?". She replied: " I can't tell you that".

I respect her position, but I find it wrong, for she maybe lost an opportunity. I namely intended

to promote her business.

Some pages will be a small "angled" picture of ComSoc era in xyugoslavia between 1950 and 1990.

One is "TE Kos 1976".

Now, choose any page of your interest, in the left pane

Don Bas, Toronto, Canada

xyu381@gmail.com

--yyz.donbas--

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'/1_Pico Ino

='==1_PICO==INNOvations===

All kind of Innoations are my hobby, Primarily, but not limited to, in ( Mechanical )

Engineering, Driving culture, Social issues.

Pico means: milion times smaller than "micro". I'd raether use "mili" or "micro", but

as long as "MIcroSoft" is existing, "mili" would mean " a thousand times more than MS",

which is an absurd. (Exactly; pico=10^-12, and micro=10^-6 or pico = 0.<..11 zeros..> ..1)

At present even innovations are ignored, let aside Pico Ino( billion of billion times less significant)

Most big coroprations, like Mercedes, do not even consider small innovations, if they are not registered with Patent office. And it is pretty expensive, so "small" peopole can't aford it.

So, I got to an idea to promote PicoIno(vations) on an absolutely voluntary basys. People, Pico-Innovators would send their

ideas to other people, possibly managers and/or owners of businesses, for consideration, under <No Obligation> rule.

Recepients are free to follow existing culture of ignoring such informations or using and than ignoring the origin of it. Absolutely no obligatin for any one.

The expactation of PicoIno people is limited to someone withing recepients, to take a different stand. No much Filozofy here if such person will be found among recepients. To see an example of a real person like this see:

---

--pgnu--

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Contact: w381@yahoo.ca (other contacts will follow your first email)

Who is Don Bas (informal Resume, aka C.V.)

'-'General

Name(age): Dobrosav Basaric aka Don Bas (77)

Residence: Canada-Toronto (Finch&Yonge)

Ethnical background: Europian, white, xYugoslavia

Born: 1937 Kingdom of Yugoslavia, now Republic of Serbia

Educ. 1: 1951 Primary School, Becej, now Republic of Serbia

Educ. 2: 1955 High School, same as 1

Educ. 3: 1963 University of Mechanical Engineering - Belgrade

'-'Languages:

Serbian/primary; English/*Q3.5; Russian/Q2.5; French/Q2, German/Q1.5 (*Qx is indication of level; 0 to 5. 5=Fluent)

'-'Work history:

2006 CA/Toronto; Retired,

1998 CA/Toronto; Julian Bower, 30 apartm. building superintendant

1994 CA/Toronto; Odd jobs ( sponsored immigrant in Canada)

1981 RS/Pancevo; Fertilizer Corp. "Azotara", Maintenenance.

1971 RS/Belgrade; Minel Corp, Site engineer

1969 RS/Belgrade; IMR Co (engine mfg), Prototype engineer,

1967 RS/Belgrade; Jugofund Co; Equipement Maintenance

1963 RS/Bechey; Fadip; Car parts&accessories Design engineer

'-'Family:

Father, Miodrag WW2 victim Serbia, Kragujevac 1943

Mother Jelena, died in 1993, Serbia, Beccej

Wife, Milena, 1994 retired accountant with Jugohemija , Belgrade

Son Aleksandar (49) CA/Toronto; Computer Programmer

Daughter Lidia (42) ) CA/Toronto; Project Manager

Grand children (5 to 8 years): Marko, Luka, Filip, Katarina

'-'Hobbies and interests:

- Driving mentality; See examples at: scratch.mit.edu/users/w381

- Jesus' "doctrine"; Forgive others, Love everybody.

- Flying ULA (never solo)

- Hobby in small Innovations (never materialized.)

- Dual Democracy, everybody to vote, not just elected reps.

---don's--resume--

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'/E2-Error

^^='==ERROR==in==driving===

This is complementary text to my note-card nc11 (see bellow)

Contents

GR - The grassroot people and more joyful driving?

BCS - Bellow Collision Speed

DQA - Driver's Quality Assessment [DQA] - for now just think about it. There are no details yet.

NC11 - copy of my nc11 Note Card

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='==GR - The grassroot people and more joyful driving?===

If you'd say: "How, at all, can I ?....", the answer is: SIMPLY. And it can be a lot. Not just a bit.

The traffic Law and enforcement in most developed countries as well as in some less lucky ones,

are so good that there is not much room for enhancement. For those areas that still can be improved,

Laws can't help much. Law enforcement can. But the most probable contributors are we - the drivers.

For example if you are turning left on any intersection in any country, the Law requires you to waith until

those cars coming from the opposite dircection pass and clear the way for your left turn. You have to respect

this rule in full. But, without being dully stubborn in that. So if someone has stopped and signals you to

go left, than GO.

I myself, frequently signal people to go left in front of me proceeding straight in opposite direction;

- I do it whenever I am early for my destination. It's a kind of pleasure to me.

- I do it even when I am late for my destination if traffic conditions are such that applying my right of way will

not make me less late, not for even a single second.

- I do it even if I'll be a few seconds more late, but you and especially those in line behind you will save much

more thean what I will loose.

No doubt people of Traffic Law and enforcment are well awere of these possibilities, but there is no way to

make a Law or even enforcement steps based on existing Law, to accomodate the explained examples.

But, there is a way if I continue this style, and you accept it. You my be surprised how people notice it and

I bet, sooner or later, other drivers will try it. Eventually, we, the grass roots can change the culture of driving, so

it will be much, much better than what it is now, and without a single change in Law nor enforcement.

If and when you will be trying this, keep in mind it is fully voluntary. If you are donating your right of way to someone

(turning left), no problem. But if someone is offering you the same, be very careful, as in the case of collision, the other

guy will diny it. That's how people's mind work normally.

To overcome this obstacle, take other ones right of way only if clearly offered by signal and the speed of other guy is

either zero or bellow collision speed [BCS] -search for =BCS.

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='==BCS==BELLOW==COLLISION==SPEED==

BCS - Bellow Collision Speed

If you are turning left in front of me procceding straight from the opposite direction, I'll feel it as follows:

A - Quiete Comfortable if my front bumper reaches the spot of possible collision in more than three seconds

B - Almost comforable if it was 2 seconds

C - Not at all comfortable if it was 1 second

D - Stressfull if it is less than .5 second I never honk! Even in such an occasion

The Law is not clear about this, and enforcement (Police) rarely take action about it....

..., but I do encourage everybody to avoid this kind of turning left and try to follow case A, as mucy as possible.

When I'll be discussing "Driver's Quality Assessment [DQA], this will be one of the "items" to measure.

I'll now try to define BCS as case A. The best BCS of the other vehicle is zero, but any other speed that if not

increased will make the timing as per example A. Though B, C and D, are technically also mostly NCS, because they

interfere with my feeling of comforth, I do not favor them to be considered as NCS.

Conclusion:

- If you mostly observe NCS (case A), and the other divers signals you to go left, then do it. If the other drivers signals

you to go left, and his speed is as per B, C, or D, better don't.

- If you are the donator (of the right of way as per aforsaid examples), never signal anything if your speed is not A or better.

Consider D case as almost collided, and never, never allow it to yourslef.

--bcs--

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='==NC11==

Hi buddy,

Maybe one of us, just erred.

Not a big deal. But can serve as

the first step towards something

better in driving relations.

Google for: John381YYZ

for my explanation. Or contact

me: xyu381@gmail.com

--nc11--

^^--err---

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'/

This is for people I my know. But OK for everybody too.

Choose your page in the left pane

DD

xyu381@gmail.com

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probably duplicate [taken from another page]

='==A1==ABOUT==ME==JON=POL==Started in 2005==edited==May==2015==

You may get an idea about me in seconds by looking photo file : JP_Family_2014.jpg

(here or at the bottom of this page).

................................

Name: John Paul [ see my other names at <Home> page Origin: xYugoslavia , Belgrade

Contact: w381@yahoo.ca or xyu381@gamil.com

Strongest Interests: Lord of the Flies, Non quis, sed quid, Buddha, Jesus, George Fox

Formal Education: University BScME - Belgrade, over General High School in Beccej, xYugoslavia.

Semi Skills: Mechanic, electrician, plumber, a/c, Satellite TV, Computer Technician....

Family: See photo

Languages: Serbo-Croatian/prime. English/ESL. ?TL: Russian, French, German

Work expereince:

2006 - now: retired, care of my four grandkids,

1998-2006: Building superintendent in a small apartment building of Julian Bower, Toronto, Canada.

1963-1998: Construction and Maintenance technician in Industrial plants, like "Azotara", Panccevo, xYugoslavia (mostly as purchasing clerk)

Personal heroes:

- Buddha, Jesus of Nazareth, George Fox, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, J. Jaruzelski,

because they all were against violence. And I am somehow born pacifist.

Religious orientation: Buddhism , Quakers, Jediisme

Hobbies:

- Human relations, like Elegant Driving Style ( Unlimited Tolerance in traffic)

- Electronics,

- Woodwork

Political views:

- Extremely Neutral.

( See more bellow)

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='===BELOW==(details)===

Read this at your own risk (of time)...

Born: 1937 in Kragujevac, xYugoslavia

Primary&Secondary school: Bechey (Beccej), xYugoslaiva

Work expereince:

1981-1998 Purchasing person, "Azotara" Panccevo

1971-1981 Site engineer, Machinery installation "Minel" xBelgrade, xYu

1968-1971 Prototype engineer "Perkins of Yugoslavia", Belgrade, xYu

1966-1968 Mainentance engineer, "Jugofund", Belgrade, xYugoslavia

1964-1966 Design engineer, "Fadip" Becej, xYugoslavia

Short terms assignments places:

- Power plant shift leader, Benghazi, Libya 1970

- Phosphate mine, construction Site Manager, Akashat, Iraq in 1976

- A/C technician, Sahara Desert Oil field camp, Libya. 1992

';;

- Only for those extremely interesting in the matters of Politics

- Dual democracy [DD]. Existing D. is OK or at least natural. But direct

democracy is an option everyone should consider. Reality

is not favorable for DD, but nothing wrong in that. Only 200 years ago,

slavery was natural, and any idea of liberating slaves was not favored.

No slavery anymore today. So, with time DD will come naturaly.

No need to push hard. But this is my orientation now, as there were

people against slavery even 2000 years ago.

For us, the common people, no much difference which

political regime is in power. Between the two giants of these days,

Capitalism and Communism, no much difference, for common

people, but Capitalism is natural and communism is "adopted".

Most people in the Western Civilization consider Communism as

darker than devil, but it is too simplified thinking. Can be OK only

for those living outside Communism. If you have to live under C.

regime, this attitude can only bring you trouble. Fortunately C. ceased

its ugly actions in recent decade or two.

I favor a combination of these two systems as Capitalism is unable to

resolve poverty, and communism had some remarcable results in that.

Capitalism demonstrated more tollerence in political matters which is

important for social develpements.

Unfortunately, mother History, is not much inclined towards such

an utopystic combination of mine. So our civilization is probably facing

an imminent show down. With all those nukes, it's a really bleak future,

And it's not my original opinion. I accepted smarter people's ones, but

I am afraid they are closer than my idealistic wish to make these two

systems coexist.

And the most urgent problem of our planet, overpopulation is heavily

neglected by both social systems. And it's the only way out of poverty.

Ancient Romans sayings:

Audiatur et altera pars [Listen to the other side too]

Non quis sed quid [Not who but what is said]

When it comes to wrong judgment by an official, in many cases the cause is

missing to implement this ancient wisdom.

Half a century ago, a Swedish pshycologyst found that most conflicts

between common people originate in misunderstanding (misapprehension).

I, myself witnessed it many, many times.

='==yyzDonBas===

I was born as Dobrosav Basaric and it is still my legal name, but I mostly use my shorter

... nicknames: Don Bas. Some people know me as: Lala , Mali, Deda doobra [Dd]...

I am a 100% open person. I never had any secrets of any kind except a couple negligable,

ones towards my family, like flight training. I'll supply those too to anyone outside my family.

This statment about Secrecy is triggered by a recent case of a young man who pushed me

to remove our email correspondance from this public site. I relucantly moved it to privete one,

for I found anything deserves privacy. But I also like to meet any ones wishes if possible.

Though I prefer open communication, if you are like that boy, please express it explicitely.

So I can decide weather I'll continue communication with you or not.

Still I understand many people do have secrets. If you work for the Secret Service of your

own country, it's OK. Actually it is not so simple, but that's what German President

Mrs Merkel said. I understand Merkel simply as "Some people earn for living by working for

Secret Service". Most earn working for public businesses. If it is OK to work for SS,

as Merkel says, it must be same or more OK to be fully open and never have a secret.

I recently asked a RE agent "How much do you earn?". She replied: " I can't tell you that".

I respect her position, but I find it wrong, for she maybe lost an opportunity. I namely intended

to promote her business.

Some pages will be a small "angled" picture of ComSoc era in xyugoslavia between 1950 and 1990.

One is "TE Kos 1976".

Now, choose any page of your interest, in the left pane

Don Bas, Toronto, Canada

xyu381@gmail.com

--yyz.donbas--

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='==JUNK===

='==Jon Pool aka Don Bas==JP==

yyzDon.jpg - a photo at the bottom of this page maybe says enough.

................................

Country: Canada City: Toronto Origin: Yugoslavia (Now Serbia) [Belgrade]

Contact: w381@yahoo.ca or xyu381@gamil.com

Prime Language: Serbo-Croatian 2nd: English/ESL Fair: Russian, French, German

Formal Education: University BScME - Belgrade, xYugoslavia

Skills: Electrician, plumber, a/c, Mechanic, Satellite TV, Computer Technician.... - all average

Family: See photo: DonYYZ*.jpg at the bottom of this page

Work expereince:

2006 - now: Retired with several hobbies - see bellow

1998-2006: Building superintendant in a small apartment building of Julian Bower, Toronto, Canada.

1963-1998: Technician Mechnaical in Construction in Industrial plants, like "Azotara", Pancevo, xYugoslavia

Favorite People[FP]:

- Budha, Jesus of Nazareth, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, J. Jaruzelski, Vienna Glazier

And I really don't like violence nor force, even on mental level.

Religions: Buddhism and Jediism

( both are more practical guidance for life)

Hobbies:

- Human relations, especially drivers, Electronics, Elegant Driving Style ( meaning: Unlimited Tolerance),

Advising helper.

Unlimited tollerance is my moto in general human relations. I also like to help people whenever I see a need and

people are willing to try. I discussed it more elsewere.

Political views:

-Neutral. More is elsewhere.

--jp--

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='==aka Don Bas====

Some people just look at the foto:

yyzDon.jpg at the botom of this page.

................................

Name: Don Bas [ see other names at <Home> page

Origin: xYugoslavia , Belgrade

Contact: w381@yahoo.ca or xyu381@gamil.com

Formal Education: University BScME - Belgrade, xYugoslavia

Real Skills: Mechanic, electrician, plumber, a/c, Satellite TV, Computer Technician.... - all semi skilled.

Family: Wife, two children, four grandchildren (see photo: DonYYZ*.jpg at the bottom of this page)

Languages: Serbo-Croatian/prime. English/ESL. As 3rd L: Russian, French, German

Work expereince:

2006 - now: Maintenance, small scale and/or hobby besides, care of my four grandkids, now at Primary School

1998-2006: Building superintendant in a 30 apartment building of Julian Bower, Toronto, Canada.

1963-1998: Construction and Maintenance engineer in Industrial plants, like "Azotara", Pancevo, xYugoslavia

My faorite Famous People, I admire [FP]:

- Budha, Jesus of Nazareth, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, J. Jaruzelski,

because they all were against violance. And I really don't like violance even on mental level.

..not famous, but I admire the same way:

- Vienna Glazier. See

Religious orientation: Buddhism and Jediism

and not only because both do not forbid people to be member of multiple religion groups.

Hobbies:

- Human relations, especially drivers, Electronics, Elegant Driving Style ( meaning: Unlimited Tolerance)

Unlim. tol. is my moto in general human relations. I also like to help people whenever I see a need and

people are willing to try. I discussed it more elswere. See just one example at:

Political views:

-Neutral. More is bellow

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='===BELOW==(details)===

Born: 1937 in Kragujevac, xYugoslavia

Primary&Secondary school: Bechey (Beccej), xYugoslaiva

Work expereince:

1971-1981 Site engineer, Machinery installation "Minel" xBelgrade, xYu

1968-1971 Prototype engineer "Perkins of Yugoslavia", Belgrade, xYu

1966-1968 Mainentance engineer, "Jugofund", Belgrade, xYugoslavia

1964-1966 Design engineer, "Fadip" Becej, xYugoslavia

Short terms assignments places:

- Power plant shift leader, Benghazi, Libya 1970

- Phosphate mine, construction Site Manager, Akashat, Iraq in 1976

- A/C technician, Sahara Desert Oil field camp, Libya. 1992

';;

- Only for those extremely interesting in the matters of Politics

- Dual democracy [DD]. Existing D. is OK or at least natural. But direct

democracy is an option everyone can try. As non-vioilance. Reality

is not favorable for DD, but nothing wrong in that. Only 200 years ago,

slavery was natural, and any idea of liberating slaves was not favored.

No slavarey anymore toda. So, with time DD will come naturaly.

No need to push hard. But this is my orientation now, as there were

people against slavary even 2000 years ago.

For us, the common people, no much difference which

political regime is in power. Between the two giants of these days,

Capitalism and Communism, no much difference, for common

people, but Capitalism is natural and communism is "adopted".

Most people in the Western Civilization consider Communism as

darker than devil, but it is too simplified thinking. Can be OK only

for those living outside Communism. If you have to live under C.

regime, this attitude can only bring you trouble. Fortuntely C. ceased

it ugly actions in recent decade or two.

I favor a combination of these two systems as Capitalism is unable to

resolve poverty, and communism had some remarcable results.

Capitalism demonstrated more tollerence in political matters which is

important for social develpements.

Unfortunately, mother History, is not much inclined towards such

an utopistic combination of mine. So our civilization is probably facing

and imminent show down. With all those nukes, it's a really bleak future,

but it's not only my opinion. Actually I accepted smart people's ones.

And the most urgent problem of our planet, overpopulation is heavily

neglected gy both social systems. And it's the only stable way out of poverty.

Audiatur et altera pars (Listen to the other side too) - ancient Romans saying:

Half a century ago, a Swedish pshycologist found that most of conflicts

between common people have their origin in misunderstanding (misapprehension).

I witnessed it many, many times. I even noticed a similar rule:

When it comes to wrong judgment by an official, in many cases the cause is

right this missing to implement this ancient wisdom. So, sacrifice a fiew more

minutes and never miss to listen to the other side.

Why ? - many a reader would ask. No answer needed. If you want, you do, if not, you don't.

((For explicit-answering style lovers: Maybe because in some countries, there is a (big) visible difference, between the material

quality of human lives and non-material.))

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TE Kos 1976 - English and Serbian versions

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d1975a Stupidity - a case of the worst sudden unnerving in my life

I am now 77 and make this avaialble to you, just for the case. Maybe it can save an unnerving, to you or someone you talk to about this. Sorry for longer intro, but without it you can miss the point.

And this happened far back in 1975, in Kosova A Power Station. I was a n engineer with Minel, Belgrade, Mechanical Conntractin Departent "Termoelektro". It was midwinter, and three blocks of Kosova A, out of four went out of service. At the time Kosova was a province of Yugoslavia, and Kosova's leader requested technical help from Serbia leaders, to do repair work.

Those (political leaders of Serbia) transfered request to my company. Management sent all avaialble fitters to do repair. After maybe two weeks, a one of several shift supervisors quit his job and my boss sent me as supplement. I was not familiar with the job, but my boss insisted, as he had no one else available. I had no choice.

The very first night, as it was night shift, the forman told me: "Don't warry. I'll do everything, you may stay in your office all the time. I'll call you only if I find you may be helpful".

At the time, it was customary in Minel and elawere, that formen control everything on a site. Supervisors do only some paperwork, and help reading bluprint drwaings. So, I accepted the idea, especially because I knew nothing about turbine repair, which was the task of our shift.

to be cont'd

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1976b Glupost bravara - Basaricyevo najvecye trenutaccno nerviranje u zzivotu

Verzia za one massince (svih stepena stuccnosti)

Zovem se Dobrosav Basaric, mass. inzz. u penziji. Ova situacija mi se desila 1976 godine u Termo Elektrani "KOSOVO" - Obilicy kod Prisstine, sada republika Kosova a onda Pokrajina "Kosovo" u sastave repgublike Srbije, koja je bila deo Jugoslavije.

Radio sam kao inzzenjer objekta na gradilisstu Petrohemija-Panccevo. Upravnik je bio (odliccan) tehniccar Voja, nadimak "Prteni", a prezime sam mu zaboravio. Jednog februarskog dana, te daleke 1976, obrati se on meni..

V: Zvali me oni iz Uprave firme i trazze da te possaljem u TE "Kosovo". Iako kao upravik gradilissta imam pravo, necyu da ti naredim, pa ako necyess, nemorass da idess. Od pet blokova na TE-1, prekjucce je ispao (pokvario se) i trecyi. Situacija sa strujom je toliko kriticcna da je (politiccko) rukovodstvo Kosova trazzilo od rukvodstva Srbije da pomogne na svaki mogucyi naccin. Ovi su se obratili nassoj montazzi i nassi su poslali ekipu od 100 ljudi. Pre neki dan, jedan ssef objekta je napustio firmu i SSiptari zahtevaju da se hitno possalje zamena. I eto, pao je izbor na tebe.

B: Ali ja nikad nisam radio ni montazzu ni remont elektrane niti issta sliccno...

V: Znam, a znaju i oni gore (rukovodioci TERMOELKETRA), ali takva je situacija da moramo nekoga poslati odmah, a ti nisi angazzovan. A ni nemass ti tamo bogzna ssta da se angazzujess. Poslovodje znaju poso. I za dve, tri nedelje treba sve da bude gotovo, pa se vracyass.

Nakon ssest godina u Termoelektru, znao sam i ja da je poslvodja glavni ccovek na gradilisstu a mi ssefovi objekta samo vodimo dnevnik radova i ponekad pomognemo u ccitanju crtezza, jer priliccan broj poslovodja se u tome nije bass najbolje snalazio. Ali poslovodja je ipak bio stvarni ssef gradilissta, a mi nizzenjer - "pisari". Po pravilu su nas poslovodje oslovljavale sa "ssefe", ali na pertu. Tako je bilo. I prihvatim ja.

Zapao sam u nocynu smenu na remontu turbine. Poslovodja je bio neki Aca, sa nadimkom neke ribe, dal ssaran, smudj, ne znam. Valjda je bio pecaross. Odmah cye on meni:

A: - SSefe, nema da briness. Spavaj u toploj kancelariji a mi cyemo da radimo. Ako bass nessto zatreba, zvacyu te ja.

Meni je ovo odgovaralo, jer ionako se nissta nisam razumeo u te labirinte, ssto su trenutno radili, pored rajbovanja rupa na spojnici turbine sa generatorom. Nije vezano za ovu priccu o naj-nerviranju, ali da pomenem. Dnevna smena, je odradila jedan deo tih labirinata, pa su nassi bravari nastiili u nassoj, nocynoj smeni. Kad smo sutradan dossli u smenu, dossao glavni inzzenjer i upozorio, da sve ssto su nassi bravari uradili porossle nocyi, ustvari je pokvaren deo posla iz prepodnevne smene, pa da se pazi na to.

Naravno glavni inzzenjer ja smatrao da sam i ja tome kriv, mada nisam pojma imao o ccemu se radi. Po dogovoru sa poslovodjom, nisam ni izlazio iz kancelarije, jer me nije zvao. A vecy rekoh nissta se nisam razumeo u tu obradu labirianata. Da sam bass hteo mogao sam da se upoznam brzo, ali bih time issao na nos poslovodji, a nisam hteo.

Sledecyeg dana sve se ponovilo. Opet su nassi upropastili dnevni rad svojih kolega. Glavni inzzenjer nije ovog puta mene ni zvao, jer je ukapirao da ja s tim nemam blage veze. Srecyom, nasao se tu jedan inzzenjer poccetnik, koji je radio u samoj elektrani. Poccetnik, ali pametan.

On je predlozzio glavnom inzzenjeru da nocyna smena ne produzzuje rad na labirintima koje je ostavila nedovrssene dnevna grupa. Vecy da nassi, nocyni bravari rade druge labirinte. One zapoccete u dnevnoj smeni cye zavrssiti dnevni bravari kad mi odemo. Tih labirinata je bilo mnogo, pa je to bilo odliccno ressenje. Sledecyeg dana sam ja vracyen za Beograd, pa ne znam da li su nassi nocyni bravari dobro uradili svoje labirinte ili su ih zajebali. SSta ti, dragi ccitaocce misliss, jesu li zajebali?

Poslednju nocynu smenu, trecyeg ili ccetvrtog dana mog boravka na elektrani, pored onih "svojih" labirinata, nassi bravari su rajbovali i rupe Fi 50, na spojki izmedju turbine i gneratora. Ja dremam u kancelariji, kad oko pnocyi zove me Aca, poslovodja

A: SSefe zeznuli smo ovu rupu. Trebalo je da bude Fi 50 +/- 0.03 a mi smo otissli na +.0.06.

B: Pa dobro, dessava se. Pazite dobro za sledecyu. Kazzem ja kao mudro, pouccen onim labirintima. Ako hocyess, ja mogu da budem celo vreme kod bravara na toj spojki.

A: Ne treba ssefe, pazicyemo ovog puta.

Meni je bilo interesantnije da budem prisutan, ali opet nisam hteo protiv poslovodje i ccekam u kancelariji. Sat kasnije...

S: SSefe ne znam ssta je ali i ovu smo zajebali, kao i prethodnu.

B: Dobro Aco, sad idem da vidim ssta se dessava. Posle ssest godina iskustva znao sma dobro da sam mogu da se postavim kao da sam ja tu poslovodja, ali samo na tim rupama, ne na labirintima, u koje se nisam upusstao. Sluccaj je hteo da o tim labirintima nisam nissta znao, a o rajbovanju rupa sam znao mnogo visse nego tri Ace Keccige. Nisam mu to i rekao, jer bi se strassno uvredio.

Prvo je pocceo da rajbije jedan obiccan bravar, i stvar je issla kako valja. Nakon 10 minuta se zamorio pa mu je pomagao jedan drugi obiccan bravar. E to vecy nije bilo u redu. Rajbovanje je posao za jednog ccoveka, levom rukom se drzzi cenar rajborera, a desnom okrecye ruccica. Ovaj drugi ssto pomazze uhvatio za ruccicu i okrecye je, a onaj prvi drzzi centar. To ne valja.

Kad su se ova dva zamorila, uzme rajborer TRECYI. To je bio grmalj od ccoveka. Jacci od ona dva zajedno. On je rajborer okretao jednom rukom, bez pridrzzavanja centra.

Zaustavim ih ja i objasnim celoj ekipi (njih 5) kako se pravilno rajbuje. I joss im akazzem da stanu najmanje 5/100 pre 'mere".

Pa nije to atomska fizika. Ostavim ih da rade i odem da nessto pojedem. Kad sam se nakon pola sata vratio, zajebali su i ovu rupu.

Mene u tom momentu probode nessto u stomaku, kao neki nevidljivi macc. Lepo sam im reko da stanu na pet stotinki ranije, a oni prosvirali za pet stotinki, a tri stote je tolelranicja. Bol je bio jacci no kad mi vade zub bez injekcije. Prvi put u zzivotu mi se tako nessto desilo. I nikad posle toga do evo ovih blizu 80. Imao sam ja 100 puta vecih problemskih situacija u mom radnom zzivotu desetak godina ranije, kao naprimer tri otkaza skoro bez imalo moje krivice. A svakako ne za otkaz. I bolelo je i to, ali nekako potmulo.Ali ovde nije recc o tome vecy o ovako jednom specijalnom trenutnom bolu, kao nozz. Bogami sam se uplassio za svoje zdravlje. Tek 30 godina kasnije sam saznao da je to moglo da se zavrssi infarktom.

No mlddji laksse to podnose, a bio sam tada 40 godina. Odmorim ja malo pa ajd'd da ressavam sluccaj.

Uzmem subitor i napravim "prostorni snimak" rupe. Prvo, visse sluccjano u razgovoru sa poslovodjom i glavnim bravarom, utvrdim da ni jedan ni drugi ne znaju da mere sa subitorom. Znaju oni, ali do taccnosti 0.1. A 3/100 je za njih bilo atomska fizika. Drugo, rupa ne samo ssto je bila preko mere, vecy je bila uvrnuta kao neko crevo. Bilo je visse no occigledno da nisu posstovali moja upustva i radili su na stari naccin.

Mozzda bi ih neko poslao u zatvor zbog sabotazze, za ovakvo ponassanje, ali ja nisam nikom nissta ni pripretio. Sedeo sam tamo svo vreme nakon toga, i strogo motrio da ne predju na "svoj naccin". Sat kasnije smena nam se zavrssavala, ali rupa je ispal adobro. Samo ta jedna je valjala.

Izuzetno tog dana, upravnik gradilissta je dossao ranije, dok smo joss svi bili tu i nakon kracyeg razgovora sa poslovodjom nasamo, pozvao je Beograd a onda mo reko da je dogovoreno da se ja vratim za Beograd. Odliccno sam znao da je poslovodja svu krivicu i za labirinte i za rupe bacio na mene, a upravnik konsultovao nekog u BG, mozzda Vasicya ili Ljubu D. Taj je naravno bio pametan i zakljuccio kako nema svrhe da mene issta pita, jer "Basaricy je i sam rekao da nema pojma o remontu turbine".

Ja nisam imao obiccaj da se bunim na takve stvari. Kako svi ostali jesu, normalno je ssto je pravo stanje stvari oko tih labirinata i rupa ostala nepoznanica do danassnjeg dana.

Zassto ja ovo uopsste opisijeem, sada posle 40 godina? Prvo mislim da cye pricca mozzda biti interesantna mojim unucima.

Drugo, svih ovih godina, a sada je 2014-a, deo Balkana odakle ja poticcem, tj moja prva domovina, (druga mi je Kanada), u strahovitoj je ekonomskoj situaciji. Niko od mojih prijatelja ne vidi izlaz. Mozzda ga i nema, ali ja sam uvek bio za to da se reseenja trazze, kao da sigurno postoje. Kogod prihata ovkvu logiku, mora se slozziti da je prvi korak upoznavanje gressaka prosslosti. Jedan od tih gressaka je opisan ovde, pa mladjarijo kako ocyess.

Ako neko pomisli da je to prevazidjeno i da spada u gresske komunisticckog rezzima, rdno se vara. Jeste da je komunizam stvorio uslove da se ovakve i mnogo vecye gresske prave a da niko i ne zna ssta se dogadja. Ali nije to pravi razlog. Pravi razlog je neka vrsta "tehnokratske aristokratije". Rukovodstgvo TE nije znalo ssta se stvarno desilo, pa je sklonilo sa gradilissta jedinog koji je nessto o tome znao. To se dessava i u kapitalizmu.

Tehnokratska aristokratija, ima je i na Zapadu, uz jednu malu razliku, necye ukloniti ccoveka koji je stvarno kriv za recimo tamo neke "zapadne" labirinte i rupe, a da ga ne saslussa. Nije to akt ccoveccnosti, vecy ako ne znamo ssta se stvarno desilo, mozze se to isto ponoviti. CCisto tehnokratksi razlog. Komunizam je najverovatnije kroz politiccku podobnost nesvesno i nezzeljno otvorio vrata ovakim dogadjajima.

Trebalo bi da je ovakva praksa nestala sa povlaccenjem Komunizma u pozadinu. Ali nije. Kladim se da je duh "tehnokratske aristokratije", ostao isti, tj pravi iste gresske, mada je mozzda znatno promenjen.

Dokaz za to se mozze nacyi u Panccevacckoj Azotari, pogon Karbamid. Kladim se u 100 EU da nikad nisu ressili gressku sliccnog "okusa" koju sam ja uoccio joss tamo neke 199x-e. Sluccajno je opet bila spojnica turbine i radne massine, samo ne generatora i nisu rupe u pitanju vecy nessto drugo.

Nemam uvida u zapdanjacdki stil u ovom primeru, ali nagadjam da bi ta stvar bila ressena nakon prvog saznanja, bez obzira na subjektivne faktore. Jer spojka, dal turbine i generatora ili turbin i neke druge radne massine, je ccista tehnika, maltena kao matematika. E u Komunizmu nije bilo tako zbog komunisticcke politiccke podobnosti, koja je srozala autoritet rukovidiociam do te mere, da su morali da posstuju subjektivne faktore i visse od ovih matamatskih.

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Title: All my attempts (z is primarily to ease navigation)

This is another of many of my attempts to help others. Maybe to serve as a guideline for my grandchildren, or some other kids. Hopefully they will not need it so badly.

a'-' People's mind

Scientists found that people's mind did not develop anything throughout History. Practically about ten millenia. So, what happened two millenia ago, can happen tomorrow. One proof is that great man, Jesus of Nazareth, who is the first known personality to promote better option in anything. It means if it would be possible to "reconstruct" any person that lived 9 millenia ago, that person would be able to learn any skill, or University, as you can today. But more important for the purpose of this writing, is that adult people errors and mistakes are exactly the same as at that time. People have been falling in love in the same way you do today, they followed their leaders in the same way, they hated each other in the same way, and generally emotionally human beings did not change anything. Actually, maybe todays generation is even worse than at those ancient times. Not better.

More about Jesus: https://sites.google.com/site/budhajesusghandi/j1_jesus

b'-' Technology

It is not sure if all those technology is for better or for worse. It did help to feed seven billion people, now living on this small planet. But it is the biggest questions of all, if it would be better if there is only two billions or less, both for the people and for the planet. You can reject this view of mine in full, as 99.999 percent would certainl do, but ....

But not a bad idea to consider those well known philosophers who reccomended sticking to the Nature. Jean Jacque Rouseau, Malthus etc. Not ignoring the backfiring effect of overpopulation.

c'-' Over-Population

... About two centeries ago, leaders of a small ethnic group named Vlasi, inhabitating mountneous are at Danube river, close to where is Djerdap canion and hydro electric power plant are situated, decided to diminish their number.

The rason was poverty. When families had three or more children, as was the case with all surrounding ethnic groups, the real estate property has to be devided, and consequently dimineshed.

Vlasi's leaders decided to encourage one child per woman, and followed it successfully without major traumas. USA was an unknown country at the time, so no one blamed Vlasi people. As opposed to USA blaming China today for the same thing.

A century later, Vlasi people becamo the richest in the area. And they are not limiting the number of children per family by any kind of encouregment. They achived the state of ballance similar to that in Western Europe. Voluntary. As no family will make more than two kids, which garanties same, good standard. If it happens three it will compensate to those who have only one or none, etc.

If this logic was implemented after WW2 when USA took primate in world policy and if USA and rich west encoureged the logic of Vlasi, there would be no more than five beillion people on earth today, and maximum will settle at about seven.

Unfortuantely, USA leaders have been stupid enough no only in mising to encourage the logic of Vlasi but imposed the sanctions on China for implementing it.

And what was the reason fo American leaders to make such a tragic mistake? Their religion that forbids birth control.

Ancient Latin have en expression: O tempora o mores - o asinus o boves. The best translation is maybe:

Alas! how the times have changed for the worse!

Except the technology, which I put under strong doubt in regards if it is for better of for the worse, in all other aspects, present days are worse than previous. Yes, medicine in developed countries has prolonted human life for two or three decades compareint to middle age, but .... well it's too long story for here. Study it for yourself if you like.

d'-' About the truth

>> a fact or belief that is accepted as true

In simple things, simple the truth is; Today is Saturday. Many people are poor even in the richest countires.

Rich people are not any happier than poor, providing the later ones have enough food to eat under any kind of ceiling.

But when it comes to anything more complicated, like war for example, or any political or religious truth, there are many versions of truth. In wars winners not only win the war, but the truth too. For example after WW1 and WW2, only one truth remained. Same with recent local wars, like Iraq. For Iraq, the world super power USA, did not believe in experts report about some military facts of Iraq and justified the war against Iraq on that. So they explained they are attacking Iraq just to check those experts finding. USA war experts confirmed that what civilian experts reported was true.

This did not make USA to appologize to Iraq and withdraw its armies. No, they occupied Iraq same as if it was their only intention. Well it wasn't. But they actually killed the platform on what the truth about Iraq was surviving. That's maybe one of the reasons why USA lost a lot of its once famous popularity on this planet.

If you prefer small everyday's truths, there is a truckload of examples.

Take cell phone use while driving. Most experts claim it is dangerous. I use cellphone extremely rarely. And I found that it is not dangerous. Maybe the opposite. What's your opinion?

Or missing to stop at red light. I myself use to miss it about once a year. I see other people about once a month. It's never been dangerous.

Or that ubiquitous "All way STOP" signs. It is speciality of North America and South Africa. I'm pretty sure it was justified

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Prokod Beccej Minja

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Prokod (nikako WC). Nissta nisi razumela. NE SME DA SE NI MALO CCISTI. Da nisi pipinil!. Kako stoji tako da stoji. A ja cyu Minji objasniti ovako:

Minjo,

Omalovazzavass komunikaciju sa mnom, ssto mene prakticcno ne tangira. Ti jesi biolossko meni necyak, al socialni nisi. Malo mi je ssto je tako, ali ne toliko da SE SAD JA TRUDIM oko toga. Nek ide kako ide. Ako ocyess da to malo popraviss, pitaj nekog, ako sam ne znass kako.

Prokod sad nema vrata nego neka poluvrata, ssto se mene ne ticce. Ali Li je planirala da dodju do Becceja, samo ne zna taccno kad i mozze se desiti da se plan poremeti pa da idu samo do NS, a taj se plan ne sme poremetiti.

Ako dodju do Becceja, ja bih voleo da ova dva maccka dobiju jednu informaciju (siksutvo, dozzivljaj) o starim vremenima. Jako mi je zzao ssto je opsstina dozvolila Jeli da unissti onu kucyu dole, koja je verovatno stara 300 godina i mogla bi posluzziti kao neki mali muzej.

Prokod nije tolko star, al mu ima najmanje 100 godina ssto nije vazzno, al jeste P R O K O D. A to je vazzno. Di sad mozzes nacyi prokod da pokazzess Marku i Luki. Pa...

- Nemoj nissta da pipass dok maccki ne docju. Ali mozzess malo da pripremiss "teren". Pa kad dodju, onda ima odrzziss malo predavanje (minut ili dva), odpilike ovako:

- Hiljadama godina su IMUCYNIJI ljudi imali ovakve p r o k o de . Sirotinja nije ijmala nissta, Oni su srali iza kucye. Iza kucye su bile velike basste ili njive, pa tamo niko nije mogao da vidi te ljude. Sad to "iza kucye" ne postoji. Iza nasse male kucye je ambulanta. Na selima i salassim joss ima to "iza kucye". Beccej je mali grad, pa nema.

- Da bismo osposobili p r o k o d, ako neko bude hteo, mozze i da ga isproba, prvo moramo da sklonimo sve ssto smeta upotrebi. To je priliccno prljavo, ima i pauccine, ali nije zarazno. Necye se niko razboleti, da radi oko ovoga. CCak i kad ne bi posle oprali ruke, ali obiccaj je da se ruke posle operu. (Zarazne su kvake u sskoli, u autobisima, itd, a ovakve stare stvari, makar jako prljave, nisu zarazne)

Mozzda je prvo na redu ova kanta. Ko cye da skloni kantu?

Onda....

i tako nastaviss, MAKSIMALNO VODECYI raccuna da ssto visse urade macckovi. Ako je ikako mogucye bilo bi super da sve urade sami. Ti samo instruirass.

Ako poccnu ili ni ne poccnu, vecy jasno pokazzu da im je gadno itome sliccno, onda ti reci:

-Pa dobro ako necyete vi, uradicu to ja, pa kad zavrssim mozzete da pogledat i probate.

Naravno da ako oni ostanu da gledaju, nemoj da im braniss.

Ko sto znass ja imam ccetiri unuka, Ova dva sam ja odgajao i primienjivao 99% pozitivisticcku metodu, odprilike ovako: Marko je od svoje pete godine pocceo da mlati Luku (koji je tada bio 2), To se mlacyenje godinama uvecyavalo, Prosle godine smo baba Milena i ja zakaccili strah da bi Marko mogao da osakati Luku, toliko je bio agresivan.

Kad je Marko pocceo (sa 5), umesto uobiccajenog: " To se ne sme, on je tvoj brat...", ja sam rekao Marku (od 5 ogidna) " Obicno stariji brat zvekne mladjeg. To je normalno, ali valja uvek da pzaiss gde ga zvekness, Nemoj po glavi, tu su occi i... ne valja. Nego po dupetu, nozi, ruci..." Svi ostali su naravno issli klasikom "To se nesme..."

Luka sa=ju dve godine penje se uz stepenice iz sutrena ka prizemlju. Ja mu kazzem da mora da se drzzi za gelender a on odgovara " Ja ocyu kako ja ocyu", Ja htedoh da mu zveknem jednu, ali se predomislim. Ne prodje dan a da sam sebi ne ccestitam ssto sam tako postupio. Luka je u visse mahova ostupao neoprezno, nesmotreno, ssto je prikrialo opasnost. Uek sam mu ja objassnjavao u pozitivisticckom naccelu, napro:

Luka, u redu je ssto ti ocyess da se popness na krvo, ali nije dobro da idess sam. Zovi dedu ili tatu da ti asistiraju. Luka se pre godinu dana penjao na drvo samostalno, a Ma tek ove godine. Opasno je bilo i u moje vreme da se padne sa drveta, a sada 10 puta visse, jer ja sam umeo da se pentram, a ovi sadassnji ne umeju.

Ova tirada ima (ne samo) jedan ccilj, a to je da pusiss macckove ako iakako budu hteli, da sami urade to oko prokoda. Ne morass Liddi nissta da govoriss, a ako upita, reci da samo sprovodiss ono ssto sam ja reko. A Li cye sigruno zzeleti da sve to snimi. Ako je ne bude, snimite vi. Ocyu da imam video o tome.

A ti Mirjano, proveri sa Minjom za jedno 7 dana, jesam mu poslo ovo, ako nisam ti mu proccitaj ili prosledi ako umess. Ustvari moss mu pokazati kad se vrate, pa cye on prek

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Most Christian still believe Jesus is a divine or deity, such as a god, Actually the son of god and a woman, named Maria. The story aout that is pretty much naive for vast majority of earth population, but for some 50 milion of Christians too. Maybe more than a billion of earthiens do not believe Jesus ever was born. For a neutral person, I sugest to consider what is essential and so concisely said by great Indian son Mahatma Ghandi:

Even if it was the case that Jesus never existed, the wisdom offered to us under

his name is so better than anything similar, that I do not care of his phisical existance.

My poor addition to this: If you carefully read just one of the four Gospels, or the short biography I offer you here, I bet you will agree that Jesus must be existted, regardless to all those opposite opinions. Those still in doubt should consult great Wiki;

>> Most modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reliability_of_the_Gospels >

I strongly encourage every literate person, regardless of their religious belief, to read at least that short biography I attached at the bottom of this page. It'l take you less than two hours.

As a reference, here is short except:

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http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/no-2-religion-yes-2-faith/2011/mar/31/gandhi-glimpsed-christ-rejected-christianity-false/

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- Driving culture. Do not insist on the Law. Adopt unlimited tolerance.

- Dual democracy. Existing D. is OK or at least natural. But direct

democracy is an option everyone can try. Gradually only, you

remember about social changes above.

Political views:

-Neutral. For us, the common people, no much difference which

political regime is in power. Between the two giants of these days,

Capitalism and Communism, I find Capitalism to more natural and

communism, well, not yet clear. Capitalism apologized for their

black salvery, and Communism never mentioned their shame about

Siberia at the time of WW2. (Yugoslave Communists about Goli Otok)

Most people in the Western Civilization consider Communism as

bad as a hell.l But it is too simplified thinking, good enaough for

those living outside Communism. If you have to live under Communist

regime, this attitude can only bring you trouble. Fortunately C. ceased

its oppression in recent decades.

I favor a combination of these two systems, raether than a nuclear

showdown. In the shortest; Capitalism seems to be better in economy,

especially in technology, favorable political climate etc.

And Communism Social matters were innitially better resolved; near zero

unemployment, free education, free mediccare etc. Though the big question

is still unresolved: "How to finance all those social programs?"

Unfortunately, mother History, is not much inclined towards such

an utopistic combination of mine. So our civilization is probably facing

and imminent showdown, nuclear or classic, alike. But with all those nukes,

it's a hardly to discard all those who predict a bleak future.

And the most urgent problem of our planet, overpopulation is heavily

neglected by both social systems. And it's the only stable way out of poverty.

And the best deterrent from mass killings, all those nukes are threatening.

Non QUIS sed QUID - Not Whome, but What is said.

At present, in all social areas, especially politics, this ancient rule is ignored.

But, for many reasons, it is maybe better to make use of it. Gradually, of course,

for no fast changes in Social and Political matters are good.

Audiatur et altera pars (Listen to the other side too) - ancient Romans saying:

Half a century ago, a Swedish pshycologist found that most of conflicts

between common people have their origin in misunderstanding (misapprehension).

I witnessed it many, many times. I even noticed a similar rule:

When it comes to wrong judgment by an official, in many cases the cause is

right this missing to implement this ancient wisdom. So, sacrifice a fiew more

minutes and never miss to listen to the other side. I bet, after just a couple of

months, rarely years, you'll benefit something.

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*Name: Jon Pol *j [born: Dobosav Basaric] Religion: Buddhism *R

*Interests: Jesus- Fox , Non quis, sed quid, Lord of the Flies,

*Formal Education: forget it. Experience such as SemiSkills are moe important.

Semi Skills: Mechanic, electrician, plumber, child supporter...

*Family: A son and a daughter, both MS in Engineering;; Four grand kids grade 4 and 7]

*Languages; Prime: Balkanian;; Secondary: English/ESL';; Modest: Russian, French, German

*Tollerance : nearly UNLIMITED *pExperience: 300 years

Emploment history:

*2006 - now: retired

1998-2006: Superintendent with Julian Bower, Toronto's small apartment building

1963-1998: Metal Construction and Maintenance in different Industrial plants, such as:

80-98 AZOTARA, Panccevo

76-80 MINEL Belgrade, Different sites. The last ona in TItogar, ALumina

73-76 MINEL, Belgrade, Petrochemicals, Panccevo

63-73 Different employers, one is IMR, Belgrade

Personal heroes:

- Buddha, Jesus (the Man), George Fox, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King

because they all were against violence and nourished the TRUTH and GOOD against lies and evil.

Hobbies:

- Human relations, like Unlimited **Tolerance in human relations..n, Traffic included]

- Safety general; especially kids

- Technology, especially DIY, Innovations, Electronics, ...

- Woodwork

Political views:

- Explicitly Neutral. Fan of Non-Resistance but active citizen participation in all aspects of community life

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Upper text is sufficient, but if you like, proceed....

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Read what follows, at your own risk ...[of loosing a few minutes]

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*2006 - now: retired, assisting my four grand kids. Transportation and not negligible life coaching.

*forget BSc in Engineering - Belgrade, Yugoslavia

*I Interests: Jesus- Fox , Non quis, sed quid, Lord of the Flies, ;; Jesus as a man, like Juda. "Non Quis.." means: Forget Dr, Mr, PhD...

*Languages; Prime: Serbo-Croatian;; Secondary: English/ESL';; Modest: Russian, French, German

*n: aka Don Bas. Legal: Dobrosav Basaric Contact: w381@yahoo.ca or xyu381@gamil.com

*pExperience: 300 years; People mostly gaether experience from the birth onward. What you get by reading about past - is paraE.

*R: by personal choice (not by birth) . Synonimous atheist. Parents: Baptists. Grand Parents: Christian.

*Tollerance : nearly UNLIMITED. Not always a better option, but it's my lifetime fate. Hopefully will change with centuries.

.Tollerance: NO PUNISHMENT, but FULL TRUTH to be told asap. You punch my nose. I don't sue you, but tell you ...

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[*] BSc in Engineering; has nothing to do with my set-of-mind. It only helped me to get in contact with many different people, In different continent.

Of all the books I consulted, Jesus biography (Gospels) is the best one. And I admire that young man from such a long past, though he was formally uneducated .

"Non Quis sed Quid" [ancient Roman: "Forget the title of the speaker and concentrate on what the guy is speaking"]

**Tolerance in Traffic; is my hobby on its own, but it can also serve as an explanation of the word "tolerance" in my ESL vocabulary. Examples about lane change on hi-ways, like 401:

When you see lane change signal - blinking, and you release your gas pedal in ...

4 - less than 1/10 of a sec, your tolerance level is "A" [excellent]

3 - if it takes about 1/2 of a sec, it's"B" [very good]

2 - if it is closer to 1 sec, you are only "C" [good enaough]

1 - If 3 or more sec,you are s "D" [better do something to get hire ]

If you increase your speed even by a mere 5%, and thus prevent the guy to change to your lane, you are potential danger on the road. Talk about this to your best friends, regardless to the fact that this is still normal now. And in accordance with the Law.