Fountain alliance rules fountain in the beginning of EVE history. Below the story (stole from old forums https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=73654 - Its true whats written.):
Big Bang of Eve Universe -> Fountain residents form Fountain Alliance -> Collapse results in born of BoB, most feared ally, including some eve-developers!)
The History of the first Fountain Alliance
Once upon a time there was not a single alliance in game. Then Stain is formed as the first alliance. Up in Fountain many corporations are running around, mining bistot, killing the resident Serpentis and just getting along very fine thank you. A pilot getting into trouble with a NPC spawn asks for help on Local and nearly every time others come to the rescue.
Every one is living the 0.0 dream of riches earned through effort. Any dispute is usually solved in a peaceful gentlemanly manner.
One day as the pilots continue their lives a fleet of EVOL ships show up in MN5N-X. They jump to an asteroid belt where your average Fountain resident is happily minding his own business and open fire without any prior warning.
The pilot sees overwhelming odds and so legs it away as fast as possible. The next few hours others are not as lucky as pilots are shot down by EVOL. After asking Shrike just what the effin is going on the answer given is "a corporation has paid Evolution to clear Fountain of unwanted corporations". A warning is finally given out in Local and spread through the rest of the Fountain area by it's residents.
Some corporations start to move their forces out, others just move non-PVP pilots to safer space. Fountain residents are not exactly happy about how things have suddenly become but knowing that in 0.0 you might have to resort to violence to deal with problems they start to band together.
It becomes clear that the major player behind Evolutions killing spree is Xanadu. A force of Xanadu and Evolution ships starts to gather in MN5N-X while a jump or two away the residents are forming their own fleet.
Smaller forces collide every now and then but a big battle is on the cards. The Fountain residents jump into MN5N-X and engage the Evolution/Xanadu fleet. The Fountain fleet has more ships but Evol/Xan manage to minimize losses by repeatedly docking to regain shields and capacitator.
The larger numbers win the day for the Fountain residents. Seeing the amount of opposition they face the representatives of Xanadu start talks with most of the corporations that opposed them. Long and hard fights are fought in the channels of the residents and in the negotiation rooms but finally an agreement is made to create a Fountain Alliance, which will be ruled according to democratic ideals and a constitution.
Some corporations strongly oppose the formation of an alliance in Fountain and leave the area, others welcome the formation with open arms and many begrudgingly accept that being inside the alliance might benefit them more than being outside it.
The constitution has several details on how to accept members, how decisions are taken etc. but the spirit is that Fountain is governed by a democratic alliance, one which loathes piracy.
Time goes by, visits by m0o, RUS and Sinister keep the occupants occupied occasionally and show the need for a strong defence. Fountain becomes a peaceful 0.0 area, small incursions hardly nuisance the residents and several Fountain corporations start looking around for more PVP action. They set sails for CA.
Time goes by. Some CA forces counter with an incursion into FA space and there is a skirmish or two, just the regular 0.0 occurrences.
One day some members of m0o decide to venture into FA space to have some fun. They down a couple of ships and start to meet resistance. More m0o start to venture up to FA space and the FA starts to set up a blockade with the forces not fighting in CA space. Battles take place in Z30S-A at the entry point to YZ-LQL, the "capital" system of Fountain. The size of the FA forces and the dreaded lagdevil prevent m0o from gaining entry. Some ships are downed around the area.
One morning Fountain residents wake up with m0o suddenly inside YZ-LQL. Seeing how the twin forces of Fountain and lagdevil made their entry impossible during regular game hours some m0o pilots resorted to log in during the night to enter YZ-LQL unopposed. A tactical decision which paid off.
Now forces start to trickle in from m0o friends, including the corporations of the then Foresaken Empire. Fountain forces become outnumbered in their own home system. Seeing how things have become out of control back in Fountain some corporations start to recall their forces from CA space to deal with matters in their home system.
Gradually a pattern emerges, with more FA forces on during European hours Fountain is FA-held at those times, with m0o/FE having more forces on during US hours Fountain is in their grabs at those times.
m0o start to trickle out, fighting in Fountain has become war of the blobs and very boring. Often over 200 people are in local in YZ-LQL. Occasional battles between 50+ ships on either side but most are long range and ships manage to warp out damaged so no great losses. Most of the losses are inflicted when solo pilots are jumped on.
With m0o leaving the FA gets even more control, Foresaken Empire and allies are fighting a losing battle and start to head out, their final gesture being a fleet of 20 or so battleships escorting 3 industrials back home. FA member Species8247 of Damage Inc makes a kamikazi attack on one of the industrials and manages to obliterate it while dying valiantly. The industrial in question probably contained something of value as some very naughty words are exchanged in the local chat.
The FA meetings have grown hotter and hotter. Some corporations promptly moved out of Fountain space as soon as the trouble started, others moved their forces to Fountain to take part in the defense. A rift between those who fought and fought and those that mined instead is forming, accusations fly around and everyone pretty much agrees that the council has to try to get things in order to be able to counter similar incursions in the future.
More structure is made for the patrols and other amendments made. One of the most vocal voices for the FA to change and actually behave more in cohesion belongs to Shard of HHI.
Interlude - HHI and XAN
Harbinger Heavy Industries were among the corporations that had settled in the Fountain area prior to the alliance formation. It was a close friend of Tycho Heavy Industries, when Tycho became the victim of a corporation theft a number of Tycho pilots joined Harbinger. Tycho had 3 battleships at the fights against XAN/EVOL in MN5N-X back in the old days and took an active part in Fountain matters.
When arkonor and bistot started respawning properly HHI and Xanadu found themselves mining the same hidden belts of arkonor time and time again. The Fountain rules proposed that no asteroid belt can be claimed by a corporation, but that while pilots from the corporation are active in the asteroid belt (mining, killing npc) it is their right to ask others to leave it. HHI and Xanadu developed some bad blood as they competed for the arkonor riches, the dispute became so heated (both corporations had people that jumped their mouths) that the FA council had to rule on it, where they re-iterated the above mentioned rule.
Coupled with HHI and Xanadu often disagreeing during votes and debates on council meetings these two corporations became the least of friends. Many other sources for the frustration between those two corporations can be found but we leave it at that to make a longer story not even longer.
The death of Fountain democracy
HHI had become unpopular with BIG and Xanadu for various reasons of their own. A couple of times votes were held to expel HHI from the Fountain Alliance, not enough votes were counted for it so no such expulsion occurred. Seeing that democracy only gets you as far as the number of votes you have behind you several corporations decided to "clean out" the Fountain Alliance and "restructure" it.
By making a coup d'etat, where a number of corporations claimed the right as rulers of Fountain and published a list of undesirable corporations and KOS corporations, they found themselves to have the best solution in their eyes. Harsh terms were set, a lockdown was ordered and FA members taking part in patrols were suddenly KOS to their fellow patrolmen and women. Several pilots who had fought wars and lost ships on behalf of the Fountain Alliance were unceremoniously shot down by the new FA rulers and Evolution friends.
The first Fountain Alliance was based upon democratic ideals and a constitution. The first Fountain Alliance died when the democratic process was eliminated.
The second Fountain Alliance (by some referred to as the New Fountain Alliance) still claims to adhere to the constitution and to be democratic in nature. Clearly what has happened once can happen again so any corporation that wishes to gain entry into the second Fountain Alliance should do well to remember that.
A number of the corporations ousted in the coup had indeed not taken active part in the defense of Fountain, some had not contributed more than a couple battleship out of a whole fleet. Others however had taken more active part than the majority of those that are still within the alliance.
Any Alliance depends upon its members taking active part, the removal of dead weight has happened in Fountain before, through democratic processes as the majority agreed that the corporation in question at the time had not what the Alliance desired. It has never before had to resort to violence to oust an inactive corporation, so any words about dead weight are the be taken with a bucket of salt.
The first Fountain Alliance existed for 9 months and many corporations joined and left during that time, never before though in this manner.
The second Fountain Alliance
The second Fountain Alliance still rules the Fountain region, it has a few of the original founders of the first Fountain Alliance but also many new faces. While it can declare itself to be a democracy it surely must accept that actions such as this harsh method of expelling corporations without a democratical process casts a huge shadow over any claims of democracy.
To quote Detaitiv (executive member of BIG)
Quote:
extrademocractic action needed to be taken
Any corporation within the second Fountain Alliance surely must hope that it does not become the victim of an "extrademocratic action" one day.
Epilogue
Xanadu and BIG are the two largest corporations within the second Fountain Alliance. Xanadu are a feared force both in economics and fighting, BIG are a financial heavyweight. Being the two largest players in the whole process naturally puts the focus on them.
Personally I don't care if the second Fountain Alliance is ruled by the iron fists of Xanadu and BIG, by an Emperor of the Eve Marshals or by a council. I just don't want to see them flying the flag of democracy as their cover when they have shown it does not apply. I also don't care if Rev0lution and allies take control.
I do respect BIG & XAN, I have fought against Xanadu and I have fought alongside them both, I have been the only non-XAN pilot in a couple of their gangs and respect their power and skill.
But the truth must be free, history should not only be written by the winners (for the moment being the second Fountain Alliance) and the losers (for the moment those ousted) but also by those who were there and have the knowledge.
I'm Riddari, this was my post on the past and current events within the Fountain region, my aim is to draw a big picture for the general EVE population, so several details are omitted for clarity.
Peves: With the second Fountain ally born, part of the old one want to war with them: BoB vs Fountain Alliance! Double MWD Dominixes with speeds of 9000m/s, Kesterls with torps, Frigs that EW Cruisers (killed a deimos ones with a taranis), 10 drones per ship. Beginning of huge lag. Goons that where born with its 300 peeps t1 small ship fleets and lagged complete systems.
The next interesting thing is to deep dive into BoB a little bit. They where at that time the best PVP group. Killed the first Titan. And goon enemies. But also CCP devs where involved and this resulted in a lot of rumors. BoB disbanded. Went into KenZoKu or something. Currently some corps are in NC. So the war against goons continues.
BoB brief ally history: http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Band_of_Brothers_(Player_alliance)#General_History
Imperium (Goon) view on BoB: https://imperium.news/tenth-anniversary-band-of-brothers-a-shattered-alliance/
Interview Mittani on BoB Collapse: http://www.tentonhammer.com/columns/eve-online-s-goonswarm-sums-up-bob-s-collapse
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"Не съм виждал още българи, но които са ги виждали разправят страшни работи. Ротния командир потвърди, че тия диваци българите били и човекоядци. (За да успокоят френските войници от генералният щаб им казали, че срещу тях българите са много малко, а повечето са германци.) Какви ти германци- това бяха българи- брадясали, страшни, черни цървулани. Видях ги с очите си, макар и от далеч, целите покрити с косми, с пъклени очи. Тъкмо навлизахме в окопите им и всякаш от под земята изскочиха чудовища, нададоха дивашки викове и като бесни вълци се втурнаха право към нас- с ножове, бомби, ятагани. Ние хукнахме назад, а ония страшилища, надали адски викове, тичат по дирите ни, гърмят, хвърлят бомби, колят, когото сварят. Бил съм се и в други боеве и при Сома и при Вердюн, но такава страхотия и такъв бесен народ не съм виждал. Боже, Боже, Францио, къде ни изпрати?"
Жер Оливие
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Brave/HERO:
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https://eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~830.htm
Close allies of Pandemic Legion, kind of like what Zenith Affinity or Kraftwerk are to us. They were formed around the ex-OSS corporation Bulgarian Experienced Safecrackers (BULG), who are, unsurprisingly, Bulgarians. They reside in Fountain, primarily in the NPC stations in Fountain core. They run a lot of Serpentis and Angel missions from their home system, which has a number of quality level 4 agents, and are sort of the de-facto owners/inhabitants of Fountain, given that PL tend to primarily base elsewhere.
Current Relations: Neutral. We were helping them defend Fountain from IT, but SoT fucked up and their corps were abandoning ship
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Neighbors
Pandemic Legion · Sons of Tangra
Tau Ceti Federation · RAZOR · Morsus Mihi
Wildly Inappropriate · Mostly Harmless
Friendly Eastern Russians
Hostile Southern Russians
Other Hostiles
Forsooth, a Role-Playing Neutral Alliance
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Omega Syndicate Security.
Initially an informal alliance established by Black Omega Security to maintain BOS's fiefdom in lower Syndicate; its early corps included Four Horsemen, KHM Corporation, Bulgarian Mafia Squad, and The Forsakened Companions. GoonFleet became an OSS member in November 2005, and Supremacy also moved down to Syndicate at some point to become an OSS member (although when this happened is unclear). Eventually, Goonfleet went from being a curiosity within the alliance to its core and backbone.
The OSS was formally made into an alliance on April 9, 2006; at the time, it was the second largest alliance in the game in terms of numbers, behind Ascendant Frontier. When formed, the OSS was split into "northern" and "southern" components, the northern part living in E.R.A's holdings in Tribute, the southern part living in Syndicate. In particular, the station systems in Tribute held a mix of ERA and OSS towers. This would prove fatal; when Dusk and Dawn decided to invade Tribute in full force, Chosen Path, an OSS North corp, left the alliance and switched sovereignty in Tribute to D2—locking huge amounts of ERA and Goonfleet assets in those stations.
When Goonfleet left OSS on June 3, 2006, to form Goonswarm, taking most of the OSS South corps with it, what was left of OSS ended up moving to Cache with ERA; when ERA was kicked out of Cache and back to Syndicate, OSS of course followed. Eventually, the remaining ERA corps merged into OSS in mid-September 2006.
On the day that The Greater Goon left OSS, the BRUCE alliance decided to invade JQV/MK7. OSS corps were too busy shooting at shuttles with triple sensor boosted interdictors, and searching for a new corp to blame their problems on GROON or put up a fight. BRUCE now lives in JQV/MK7, and OSS was believed to be pretty much dead. However after BRUCE left Syndicate they, along with a boatload of other small alliances, repopulated the region.
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Member of OSS. Many of them live in Syndicate and they can usually be found running ED missions out of U4.
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Sons of Tangra [IYI] are a Euro Alliance formed around the ex-OSS corporation Bulgarian Experienced Safecrackers (BULG), who are, unsurprisingly, Bulgarians. They resided in Fountain, primarily in the NPC stations in Fountain core. They run a lot of Serpentis and Angel missions from their home system, which has a number of quality level 4 agents, and are sort of the de-facto owners/inhabitants of Fountain, given that PL tend to primarily base elsewhere.
During the Delve II campaign they were blue to us along with Pandemic Legion. They did not donate much effort into the war. Soon after Delve and Querious were secured, both alliances resumed neutral positions, with Sons of Tangra actively sending gangs into Delve through the Y-2ANO pipe.
Prior to Dominion deployment, the newly-formed IT Alliance began hostilities in Fountain. With most of PL members gone from Eve, Sons of Tangra fought an uphill battle. Eventually they fucked up some key station system timers and succumbed to the onslaught of thousands of terrible faggots. There were some rumors that someone in SoT was paid off to screw up their sov claims.
Many corps have since left Sons of Tangra. Most notably, the former-SoT, former-IAC corp Baptism of Fire has been messing around with us in NPC Delve and subsequently our staging system in Syndicate.
Neutral. We were helping them defend Fountain from IT, but SoT fucked up and their corps were abandoning ship. I'm pretty sure these guys are IT renters now (they're tremendous faggots in any case). There's some faggot remnant living in WY- in Fountain named The G0dfathers that we're blue to for some reason [NOT ANYMORE KILL THESE SHITDICKS.]
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[23:00:21] ArabelIa > ^_^
[23:01:33] ArabelIa > some more time and man behind Ara will do 10 years here in WY :P
[23:01:53] Jomby > muhahahaahahaha
[23:02:15] ArabelIa > 1st was BRUCE'
[23:03:03] ArabelIa > after first bulgarians in EVE together with few englandmans formed back omega and left it
[23:03:11] ArabelIa > black omega*
[23:03:30] Swerrie > golemag must be pissed now his titanium carbide reaction been blown up
[23:04:05] Arodyy > <url=showinfo:1378//729595302>Swerrie</url> are you want to join GBT?
[23:04:19] ArabelIa > when we left black omega security we went to branch
[23:04:32] ArabelIa > 2006 we decide to come in fountain
[23:05:01] ArabelIa > 2 promising systems: WY and SP
[23:05:16] Swerrie > no, I like ur play style, but fa and HARAT are my ppl
[23:05:22] ArabelIa > we choose WY 'cause is not on main crossroad
[23:05:55] Swerrie > it has good moons
[23:05:58] ArabelIa > 2006 BRUCE was here, we allied with DAISHO and kicked their ases
[23:06:25] ArabelIa > after we start killing DAISHOS and they left
[23:06:34] ArabelIa > ...and BoB was come
[23:06:56] ArabelIa > same time Omega formed PL
[23:07:13] ArabelIa > and they start hitting BoB teritories
[23:07:57] ArabelIa > they came here, after few fast fights they remember our guerilla style and asked us for +
[23:08:54] ArabelIa > we start fighting BoB together...ahh sweet LR HAC fleets...
[23:10:23] ArabelIa > when BoB falls we take fountain, PL take part of Ftain and part of Delve and Goons - Delve
[23:10:40] ArabelIa > after that IT came
[23:10:43] Swerrie > well I havent been in this game so long to remember bob
[23:11:02] ArabelIa > they were rly hard enemy
[23:11:09] ArabelIa > disciplined
[23:11:17] ArabelIa > as hell
[23:11:35] ArabelIa > main IT corps was actually main BoB corps
[23:11:39] ArabelIa > fin fleet
[23:11:41] ArabelIa > dice
[23:11:45] ArabelIa > ...
[23:11:51] Swerrie > they were the largest alli at that point
[23:12:05] ArabelIa > all old players and "hearing" game..
[23:12:41] ArabelIa > when IT came goons fail, PL left Fountain and in few weeks we lost our sov here
[23:13:25] ArabelIa > btw...6vdt, PXF and V6 was first stations here builded by us
[23:14:16] ArabelIa > after IT came we pull back in old mothersystem (WY) and start again our old guerilla style
[23:14:57] ArabelIa > almost 2 years we fight them, hitting every their fleet from behind..
[23:15:04] ArabelIa > and they fall
[23:15:19] ArabelIa > goons, test and NC came
[23:16:17] ArabelIa > they promised us sov and constelations like old allies but when war was over they reset us like "small bunch of pirates" without saying us..
[23:16:56] Swerrie > what did cfc promised that?
[23:16:56] ArabelIa > and again...hit and run, guerilla BG style
[23:17:19] ArabelIa > ya actually first IT asked us to leave SPLOT
[23:17:54] ArabelIa > SPLOT = Sons of Tangra (my old ally) + PL
[23:18:10] ArabelIa > and promised us we will mot loose our teritory
[23:18:15] ArabelIa > but we decline
[23:18:53] ArabelIa > after NC/TEST/GOONS promising almost 2 years...
[23:19:03] ArabelIa > and in 1 day all reset us
[23:19:05] ArabelIa > :D
[23:19:13] ArabelIa > so we start hunting them
[23:19:57] ArabelIa > they brting immortant spaceship ally here to fight us
[23:20:51] Swerrie > well you never thought about leaving WY?
[23:20:55] ArabelIa > hehe...was nice...we bait their supercap fleet, we had agreemend with Nulli and in 1 night BDEAL loose their supercaps :F
[23:21:08] ArabelIa > yup
[23:21:10] ArabelIa > :D
[23:21:14] whitegreenred > :D
[23:21:26] ArabelIa > we have alts in other allys
[23:21:43] ArabelIa > still many BG playing PL or NC.
[23:21:43] whitegreenred > FA are just the next season
[23:21:54] ArabelIa > yeah white is right
[23:22:09] ArabelIa > too many times i watching same movie
[23:22:24] Swerrie > fa, blast and lawn are leaving anytime soon
[23:22:43] ArabelIa > someone coming like conqueror, with fanfars and rose leafs infront him
[23:23:08] ArabelIa > 1-2 years and movie is over...and we waiting next "conqueror"
[23:23:31] Twistedboy SICK > http://i.imgur.com/OX4guJ8.jpg
[23:23:34] Swerrie > not*
[23:23:51] Twistedboy SICK > <url=killReport:44524723:eeab071152d07579a44f37115aedb76323347077>Kill: Nyreen T'Loak (Loki)</url>
[23:24:18] ArabelIa > can i guess...
[23:24:21] ArabelIa > delve?
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Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.11.10 03:07:00
SOT are not pets they are sex slaves.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 04:12:00
Only an idiot would trust PL or SoT.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 17:23:00
Breakdown:
PL rent an area in which they have no presence in. SOT do little if anything in the area for defense, unless ordered as pets by PL, to do so. EC and La Cosa Nostra Alliance decided to fight back. (EC, La Cosa Nostra, and Arcane have always, and soley, have defended the area.) SOT are "fat" and weak. PL have a reputation, but no results in fountain as of late. PL have burned a ton of bridges. I am quite surprised ID (Immoral Dragons) have not gotten in on the fight seeing how from the 70bil they purchased cloud ring for, they still owe 40bil. Major alliances from all over eve are mounting up and getting in on the "break PL's back", weather PL knows it yet or not. They will soon learn. And SOT don't have to many bridges behind them left in tact either. Two peas in a pod. Which is where they will end up ironically.
Fountain has been known as the Viet Nam of eve for some time now. PL is saving face and misleading this thread and the minds of their renters and readers, as to an outcome of victory which will never occur. Arcane I assume by posts assumes PL respects them as a renter when they have clearly stated in this thread "its about money and business. What makes you think we like anyone besides SOT no matter what you do for us?"
What is about to hit PL and SOT can be equated to a bad flu bug that sparked a revolution in fountain. A flu that there is no cure for. Egyptians fell, even with the reputation. The Romans fell, even with their reputation.
Where will fountain end up? Who will control fountain when SOT and PL are no longer "saying" they own it with no backing? Who knows or cares. EVE will unite and quiet the hand of SOT and PL.
Deduction with results to come:
PL and SOT will fall and leave fountain. Only so many you can back stab, before the hunter becomes the hunted. EC and La Cosa Nostra Alliance have sparked a change in fountain, a change of hands. Who cares who's hands. We don't want it. We all made SOT bleed yesterday until their masters came to save them, and will continue to do so.
Fountain = Up for grabs.
PL = Overrated.
SOT = "Fat" and weak.
Loads of "bridges burned" coming into wipe them out of the area. = Priceless
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Posted - 2008.11.18 12:20:00
Seeing all the gibberish posted here by some SoT members, I couldn't stop laughing!
:)
First of all, let this be clear for all of you, esteemed posters and readers of CAOD :
Sons of Tangra are nothing more than ordinary PL pets.End of line.
They always were and they will always be...actually through them,PL is "punishing" / backstabbing / etc. those inhabitants of Fountain who do not fully abide to their rules.SoT are the meatshield and the bulldogs of PL in Fountain....but, no matter how "bad" the bulldog might be, he still remains nothing more than a PET.
:)
This whole war in Fountain was planned by PL as a normal "spanking" of the troublemakers that Elitist Cowards are...initially.
Unfortunately, the things didn't go that smooth for PL as they expected because, to PL's great surprise, their PETs in SoT didn't manage to achieve anything good against EC even if they attacked 7BX while EC pilots were mostly gone in Venal (lured by PL's masterminds...*har-har*)and they were still blue to eachother.
The great surprise came when PL were forced to come in 7BX with not 1 but 2 TITANS only to save their PETs' capitals (SoT had already lost 8 Capitals and were gonna lose their entire CapFleet if it wasn't for PL's 2 Titans DDing the field in front of the 7BX station).
Those DDs didn't do much damage to EC/CONOS and GODS...but they did damage a lot of their "blues", including PL's own support fleet and SoT fighters (many billions in fighters were lost there...which also made me laugh and made some guys in SoT to start cursing PL on local chat...:D)
At that point, we from EC realized we have nothing to fear about SoT because they are just some incompetent PETs and nothing more.
This idea proved right in the upcomming 10 days of war until the present day, when SoT still achieved NOTHING more than to plant some POSes which are regularly put in RF by us.....oh yes, they also RFed some of our POSes which get almost instantly repped within the nest 12 hours ( I am referring to gun modules and such) being able to fight very fast!
If we speak about Capital losses , let's put the numbers straight : EC lost 6 Carriers and 5 Dreads while SoT lost 5 Carriers and 5 Dreads in direct fights.
If we sum up everything so far we get :
- after almost 2 weeks of campaign against EC, SoT lost 10 capitals and killed 11 thanks to PL intervention with 2 Titans that saved them!
- Sov 3 still belongs to EC in 7BX
- EC still has more towers and the station in 7BX
- their whole campaign they killed 630 EC&Allies ships and pods and lost 542 ships&pods (including those DDed by PL)
I would say this is far away from a decent invasion, even with PL support!
I hope you all get the idea : SoT always were and always be NOTHING but PL's PETs!
PS : after they lose this war, I think they will have to think about leaving Fountain, cause surely we won't let some puny PETs to live in those NPCs stations where they hide!
Yours truly,
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Atina Palada
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2008.11.18 13:37:00
Why EC alts always didnt count how may POS they lost in 7BX? Answer is 10 large. You still have 8. How many SOT POS have been destroyed by you - Answer is 0. How may alliances you NAPED to fight with us - CONOS, GOODFELAS, RUR, Resurgency and you continue to complain that we called PL when we was outnumbered 1vs2 on the battlefield. Yep you still have 7BX. We are not coalition of forces with hundreds off capitals. I cant see anyone to say that we will crush you for few days. When i read your posts it looks like SOT is lossing the fights all the time with heavy losses. What is real is that EC is losing 7BX - slowly yes but you are lossing it!
Nothing personal against anyone in EC. Few verry good fights for both sides. EC have no chance in EU TZ we managed to kill few towers even in US TZ. Keep it that why. Lets see what you will do in U-S.
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Atina Palada
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2008.11.18 13:49:00
Originally by: Malaphar
I hope you all get the idea : SoT always were and always be NOTHING but PL's PETs!
PS : after they lose this war, I think they will have to think about leaving Fountain, cause surely we won't let some puny PETs to live in those NPCs stations where they hide!
Yours truly,
Lol the alliance who was saved from Requiem atack from PL and SOT and the alliance who pays to have space is not PET, and the alliance who is in Fontain far more time before PL, and is not paying rents or purchase station is called PET. What are you, considering all of this?
Go sell more time codes and start looking for other place to buy/rent! EC mighty alliances off all time.
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Atina Palada
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2008.11.18 16:05:00
According to witch maps? PL tock that space from BRUCE alliance we was in our space even before BRUCE to come. And YES we rented all our system from PL. Rent was 1 beer. Cheers. What you cant never understand is that major part of SOT are playing with PL or ex ERA and BOS from near 4 years, even a big part of us was part of BOS for a wile. So i dont see any point to explane our relation. What you must know, and this was sayed not only here but in also others treads from us and from PL leadership, that we never payed even 1 isk for our systems. We fight for them. We was here when PL come and say we are starting to shoot Bruce, are you comming and we say yes. But this was another and old story, and for you like i sayed before go sell more timecodes EC, you will need isk to buy new homespace soon.
Or disband and create new alliance we can sell you again this stations :)
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Edriahn
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.11.18 18:52:00
Originally by: Serizawa Kahoactually from all the old maps it looks like PL was there way before you since by the maps it looks like they took a huge chunk from BoB which was fountain so yeah i would suggest looking into things before claim you were there first.
Also EC paid for there space and i bet you either paid for that space or rent it from PL cause i doubt PL would give it up freely.
anyways how about we all STFU and take it to the battlefield cause all this forum reading is a buzz kill
You are amusingly uninformed, as SOT are the ones, who began conquering Fountain from BoB pets.
Also, you just lost your bet, please send Shamis 1bil, tnx, have a nice day.
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SUTARAofHELL
Posted - 2008.11.19 16:18:00
Originally by: VaNari
Main difference: at least the people we have who show up on roaming ops don't show up from "Roaming ops" with titans.
One more proof that you never been roaming with PL little fellow! but hey what I know I'm a pet ... o wait the smack in 7b/U-S is just unbelivable and will even make a pro goon smacker looks like a beginner. Is that all you can bring? Keep it coming EC & Co we are coming in hot.
P.S. As per CCP soon we will be able to display corpses in our stations, so I am planing of making a big art EC corpse show! ... with free admision
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Posted - 2008.11.23 06:20:00
I think something needs to be made clear here for the SOT guys posting "we are not pets!". As if not only to try to convince EvE-O but themselves also.
Renters = Alliances and corporations that are not large enough to take and hold space on their own accord. Such alliances usually do not have the means or desires to stand on their own two feet and actively acknowledge this. If your not going for high end moons then renting is a fair easier option as it normally comes with protection. In some cases renter even buy certain station systems as this means the renters pay a lump sum and then are free to do as they would if they where renting. The alliance that sells the system/s and/or stations benefits in a large single payment that would have normally taken years to collect by monthly payments.
Pets = the term coined to alliances that do not normally pay rent for their space but pay for it in other ways, normally being the lapdog of another alliance. These alliances are often used as tools by the dominant alliance, often mocked for being the others work horse. The benefits however are that they get to bask in the glory and success of their masters. Living a symbiotic lifestyle they must obey their master alliance to survive.
The difference between the two is huge. As a renter the main alliance is providing a service for you. As a pet you provide a service for the main alliance.
What happened in the fountain case is clear, its as my great grandmother once said "they want to keep their cake and eat it". Simply put, they wanted to sell the space to EC and then take it away again because EC has already paid. Kinda like buying a 12month subscription from CCP and them giving you 1 month.
This should be a warning to anyone that has anything to do with PL. They can blame leadership calling them names, EC lording it around in Fountain and even threatening other "clients" but boiled down PL are greedy, seedy, low scum that fit right in with their NAP'ed allies Goons.
Back on topic, SoT need to realize that
A) they are just as disposable as EC to PL and shoe on the other foot PL wouldn't have hesitated to try to hoist them from fountain.
B) All the fighting, loss of resources. Time and effort fighting allies in an attempt to gain a station system is just plain dumb. Even if you win its like winning the a race at the Special Olympics, I mean woo you won but your still ******ed (couldn't help myself here). Instead of putting effort into a fight that's got real purpose you not only tax your own resources but your allies resources too. Have you actually stopped to think that possibly weakening the integrity of fountain as a whole at present with the northern and southern wars going on was a really really dumb idea and you would have been better off keeping the main US timezone force in fountain? Regardless of if its the "better" force or not?
Anyway Textwall level 5 completed...
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HARYBARY
Posted - 2008.11.24 14:24:00
Originally by: Shaemell ButtlesonPersonally I think SOT could have done this by themselves without PL.
With PL's help today we finish with that annoying ping-pong game (EURO <-> US Time zone).
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.11.24 15:22:00
There is no doubt in my mind that SOT could and would eventually win this war on their own. But I have reason to expedite the process, so I will.
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Posted - 2008.11.24 20:03:00
SOT and PL needed four weeks to take over 7BX.
Good luck in keeping it.
As I see it this is a invitation for all who want a station in Fountain. Why buy it when u can take it for free.
SOT is a very "strong and powerful" alliance no doubt they are the right hand of PL.
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Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.08 18:29:00
if axe et al are bob pets, does that make SoT PL pets?
Cuz like, really, does it?
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.08 18:43:00
Originally by: Dianabolicif axe et al are bob pets, does that make SoT PL pets?
Cuz like, really, does it?
Does SoT live out of PL owned outposts?
edit: anyway -- who cares which ever way it is now.
Welcome to Fountain Daisho -- hope we get some good fights and lag stays out of play!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.08 18:48:00 - [35]
Originally by: ShadooEdited by: Shadoo on 08/06/2008 18:43:32
Originally by: Dianabolicif axe et al are bob pets, does that make SoT PL pets?
Cuz like, really, does it?
Does SoT live out of PL owned outposts?
edit: anyway -- who cares which ever way it is now.
Welcome to Fountain Daisho -- hope we get some good fights and lag stays out of play!
Point remains monsieur, axe don't need to live out of BoB ones, it's just convenient - can SoT dock in PL stations?
Same difference. Neither are pets, no one receives any isk (though I heard SoT gave up some high end moons to you guys C/D!?) so the whole argument is SO 2007.
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.08 18:52:00
Originally by: Dianabolic
Point remains monsieur, axe don't need to live out of BoB ones, it's just convenient - can SoT dock in PL stations?
Same difference. Neither are pets, no one receives any isk (though I heard SoT gave up some high end moons to you guys C/D!?) so the whole argument is SO 2007.
OK -- fair enough. What term would you like to use for BoB allies who live out of your stations (not only dock there when convinient)? GBC?
Also -- D.
Can you C/D if DAISHO are part of the GBC now along with AXE?
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Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.08 18:54:00 - [37]
Originally by: Shadoo
Originally by: Dianabolic
Point remains monsieur, axe don't need to live out of BoB ones, it's just convenient - can SoT dock in PL stations?
Same difference. Neither are pets, no one receives any isk (though I heard SoT gave up some high end moons to you guys C/D!?) so the whole argument is SO 2007.
OK -- fair enough. What term would you like to use for BoB allies who live out of your stations (not only dock there when convinient)? GBC?
Also -- D.
Can you C/D if DAISHO are part of the GBC now along with AXE?
Definitely D.
And hey, allies works for me, you seem to be using it already!
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Shadoo
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.08 18:57:00
OK -- quite interesting little hotpot in Fountain then with few more people rumoured to be coming in too :D.
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Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.08 19:07:00
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: ShadooEdited by: Shadoo on 08/06/2008 18:43:32
Originally by: Dianabolicif axe et al are bob pets, does that make SoT PL pets?
Cuz like, really, does it?
Does SoT live out of PL owned outposts?
edit: anyway -- who cares which ever way it is now.
Welcome to Fountain Daisho -- hope we get some good fights and lag stays out of play!
Point remains monsieur, axe don't need to live out of BoB ones, it's just convenient - can SoT dock in PL stations?
Same difference. Neither are pets, no one receives any isk (though I heard SoT gave up some high end moons to you guys C/D!?) so the whole argument is SO 2007.
SOT were living in WY when we arrived in fountain, and they still live here, in the same way they have been for quite some time. They are far from pets. We respect their abilities and like their tenacity, and decided they were worth keeping blue. They were here when we got to fountain, and they'll be here when we leave.
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Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.08 23:30:00
Originally by: Waagaa KtlehrThe plan unfolds nicely.
Question which remains unanswered and is being dodged by PL leadership: Did SoT give up their dysp/prom moons to PL?
I think the answer is "yes". Hi pets.
nope. They have the same number of moons as they did when we came to fountain. Which is a lot since they had more than bruce ever did, because bruce failed at life.
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Превземането и владеенето на истинска 0.0 е доста по-сложно и много по-трудоемко.
Нека да ви опиша един ден в EVE.
Прибирам се от работа пускам компа и докато зареди вече съм се настанил щастливо на стола. В главата ми няма нищо от това, което ми се е случило днес през деня. То се е случило в друга вселена сега аз съм в EVE.
Влизам в TeamSpeak (програма задължителна, има е в устава на корпорацията ни, аз съм го писал) и чувам, че нашите са са хванали хаулери на белт (50милиона ресурси) Склада в ситемата бил пълен и трябвало да се изпразни. Логвам индустриалния си чар, за да взема голелия кораб Freighter и да прибера ресурсите в главната база. Питам в TS кой, ще е скаут кой, ще уебар. Пускат ми инвитация за флиит(това е парти ама може в него да влязат 250 човека) в корп канала и се подготвяме за път. Проверява се кораба и т.н.
Ха, сега нямало уебър. Това е човек, който трябва да прави една специална магия на тухлата наречена Freighter, за да
се движи по-бързо. Иначе три дена път с камили. Скатавки! Явно, ще трябва да си логна и другия алт. Логвам аз другия си акаунт (имам ги три). Скачам в рекон кораба който е баш уебъра в играта влизам в ганг и излизам от станцията в космоса.
Браво! Да бях погледнал локала? Това е чат в който се вижда кои хора са в системата. Той трябва да ти е задължително отворен иначе лошо. Докато бойния ми пилот зареждаше космоса суичнах на индустриалния чар и веднага погледнах локала. Само един червен и 30 сини. Супер! Тоя няма да смее да си покаже носа пред станцията, а освен това аз имам ескорто от 10 души.
Скаута в съседната система докладва че е чиста и аз undockвам с Freighter от станцията. Кораба е толкова голям, че другите мижитурки се губят около него. Мижитурки ама без тях е една огромна и апетитна мишена. Два скаута от флита продължават да скачат по околните транспортни артерии в региона, за да се уверят че е чисто. После се нагласят на позиции за наблюдение и започваме.
Freighter е вече спрял пред станцията и е готов за тръгване. Намирам от овервюто къде е jump-gateто на съседната система и натискам. Тухлата бавно ускорява в тази посока. Веднага суичвам с другия акаунт и и слагам един web. Така както едвам едвам набира скорост Freighter изведнъж скача като сърничка и се изгубва в космоса. Уарпна като шатълка. Чуват се някои възклицания (имаме си и нови играчи). Скачаме всички към jump-gate и чакаме там Freighter да пристигне, щото видите ли той уарпва със скорост 4 пъти по-бавна и от най-бавния кораб. Тухла!
Скачаме следващата ситема и пак уарп към следващия гейт по дестинацията. Така след 15 мин без премеждия пристигаме до целта си.
Космоса е красиво нещо. Едни ми ти такива звездички, някакви газови облаци, някакви странни образувания ... абе тоя дето е правил фоновете на космоса явно не е бил астроном а художник. Красиви са.
Freighter излиза от warp (прилича малко на StarTreck warpa) и се озовава до нашия POS. Посът представлява една кула в космоса, която има форсфилд и разни модули на нея. Аз като старо куче имам точното местоположение на хангара и се озовавам до него. Веднага от космоса отварям хангара и тъпча в моя кораб. Бреей пак остана още, но твърдо няма да се връщам за другото.
Обръщам Freighter по обратния път и чакам да ускори. Тука магията на webа не действа тъй като ФорсФилда защитава Freighter. 40 секунди чакам тази тухла четворка да ускори. Алелуя уарпнахме. В следващите 15 минути по рутинната операция по ескорт на тухла четворка в TS се водят разговори за това кой какво му се е случило днес или кой филм е гледал или какво са убили преди това и ли къде, ще ходим да убиваме след това.
Един от корпорацията,който не е във флита, а ратва в друга система се обажда, че намерил хаулери с тританиум. Задружно всички му викват да гръмне канчетата с минерали, защото перспективата да разхождаме тази тухла до друга система наново не ни блазни.
Скаута, който е пред ескорта съобщава, че в нашата система има червен. Това трябва да е същия, който беше и одеве. Това изобщо не ни притеснява. Ние сме много повече, а и сам не може да бутне фрейтера. Влизаме в системата и уарпваме към станцията. Както обикновено уарпвам бойния пилот към станцията след като съм уарпнал Фрейтера и суичвам на акаунта с фрейтера. Искам да го наблюдавам докато се докне. Кораба е скъп и в настоящия момент единствения в алианса ни в този регион.
Когато се доква успешно в станцията започвам разпределението на тританиума по хангарите на корпа. Две три минути по късно някой ми извиква в TS, че ми бият рекона пред станцията. Светкавично натискам Alt+Tab и какво да видя шилда и армора ги няма на рекона ми, а около мен циркулира един цептор и вече яде хъла на кораба ми. За съжаление в този момент ядосан и объркан вместо да докна в станцията на сейф аз се опитвам да го убия. 4 секунди по късно кораба ми гръмва и оставам по под. Нападателя веднага уапва в космоса защото от станцията ъндокват от нашите да ме спасят.
Аз съм бесен и им казвам да млъкват щото изобщо не ми се отговаря на малоумни въпроси от рода на "Как може таранис да убие Хюгин?", Всички знаят, че това е невъзможно независимо какви скилове имат двамата пилоти. Хюгина е убиец на тараниси. Ядосано им заявявам, че следващия път няма да се уебвам сам премествам се в друг канал на TS, разлогвам EVE и отивам да играя Маss Effect.
Един час по късно докато още псувам CCP заради този бъг дето кораба не се е докнал автоматично, а е останал пред станцията. И така докато си мисля разни неща за майките на CCP и с райфела избивам някави синтетични (чисти роботи са си) някой влиза в канала на TS ми и извиква: "Старши логвай хиктора тия от C4 са дошли на гости". Ядосан съм им, но това е отборна игра няма как сейфам Mass Effect-a и го разкарвам. 2 минути докато се логна в еве с бойния си чар.
Сменям канала на TS и слушам типично българска история - 100 души говорят едновременно. Един американец веднъж каза, че не разбирал как става това всички говорят, всеки прави квото си иска пък накрая побеждаваме. Това го кефило много. Сигурно го кефи щом играе с нас без да разбира и бъкел български, но явно тези от С4 (или пък беше 4С) не ги кефи, щото много бързо и организирано побягват към дома си.
- Старши тука ли си? - пита флиит командира ни
- Да - отговарям
- Бърнвай пред тях и ги спри!
Баси мамата! Тъкмо това исках да чуя. От виковете в TS съм разбрал, че са 10+ батълшипа, а сега се очаква аз, да ги спра. Почуствах се като робота Марвин дето трябваше да спре щурмови танк. На пожеланието "Дръж се!" той отговори "Ще се държа докато има за какво."
Уарп, джъмп. Уарп, джъмп. В третата система ги набарах изоставащите им кораби. В четвъртата система за малко да ги хвана. Батълшипите маневрират по-бавно и аз ги настигнах сравнително бързо. Не, че хевиинтердиктора е кой знае колко бръз, но все пак е по-бърз от батълшип.
Стигнах до гейта и скочих в петата система. Когато ми зареди екрана видях два червени минуса и без много много да му мисля пуснах балона. Хевиинтердиктора е кораб предназначен да се врежи във вражеския флот и с момоща на един модул да създаде сфера (балон) около себеси с радиус от който не може да се избяга(уарп) докато си вътре. Трябва да излезеш от балона или да убиеш хевиинтердиктора.
Тъй като жертвите ми бяха батълшипи, а те са по-бавни от мен. Нямаше начин да ми избягат. Моят хеви интердиктор е минматарски, а те са с най-голям танк в играта. Двата батълшипа не могат да ми вземат и 10% от щита.
Скаута, който се движеше малко пред мен, а по съвместителство ни беше и FC (флит командира) ме "зарадва", че другите хостайл батълшипи обръщат и се връщат. Флита им беше уарпнал към другия гейт в системата, а аз бях хванал 2мата изоставащи. В системата бяхме 15 минуса (врага) и 2 плюса(аз и FC).
FC започна да подканва другите да побързат,а на мен ми заповяда да деагресна( когато си в агресия, а аз правих такава със сферата, не може да скочиш през гейта и да избягаш.) Аз обаче не деагреснах, ако го направя, ще избягат тези дето съм ги хванал. Включих всичките си резисти и започнах да се моля. 20 секунди по-късно овервюто ми се напълни с червени минуси. Вражеския флит беше пристигнал в грида ни. Веднага батълшипите ме взеха на таргет и към кораба ми се понесе демидж способен да счупи и Дреднауд. 12 батълшипа фитнати за битка на близки разстояния правят умопомрачителен демидж на мишена като мен. Сферата правеше моя радиус (размера на кораба) огромен и поемах пълния демидж от всички оръжия. Въпреки огромния ми танк шилда започна да пада. Оставаха ми секунди.
В това време чух как в TS другите от нашия ганг докладват, че скачат през вратата. Късно за мен, но късно и за врага. Вражеските пилоти веднага щом видяха появата на приятелите ми (за тях са минуси) в локала насочиха корабите си към другия гейт готови да избягат веднага щом ме убият. Но както казах късно. Нашите цептори бяха прихванали техните батълшипи. Сложиха им точка (миниатюрен вариант на сферата ми предназначен за една цел). Цепторите са толкова бързи и подвижни, че един батълшип от близо е изключено да уцели такъв кораб.
БУУУМММ! Айде, отиди и тоя хевиинтердиктор. 100милиона вътре. Врагът загуби 2 или 3 батълшипа ( 400 - 600 милиона), не помня вече това беше преди месеци. Докато нашия ганг убиваше тези кораби другите избягаха.
Така този ден загубих 2 краба, но беше фън. В EVE е така има дни в които печелиш, други в които губиш, но няма ден в който да не си заслужава да се логнеш.
ИНВАЗИЯ
Час 1 : Подготовка
Причините поради които нашата корпорация BULG и съседите ни от Сърбия KUMOVI решихме да се изнесем от един от най-богатите региони бяха плетеница от икономически и политически, но най-вече гордостта ни. Все някога идва ден, в който се запитваш "Какво давам и какво получавам?". Е, ние тогава 30 активни пилота намерихме отговора в този въпрос в изселването или по-точно Инвазията ни във Fountain.
Защо използвам точно тази дума? Ми защото е вярна. Корпорацията ни тогава беше 90 пилота, от които 30 активни другото алтове (отделни акаунти или на същите акаунти). Кумови бяха още по-зле от нас 10 активни пилота и още толкова алта. Та, така 40тина тъмни балкански субекти решиха да се изселят от машината за пари и да се натресът в регион, който се контролираше от най-силния алианс в играта BoB. И това във времето, когато BoB беше в зенита си на териториалния контрол. Те и петовете им (пет са корпорации и алианси, които получават някаква военна и териториална протекция срещу плащане или услуги) контролираха целия юг на картата целия запад и почти целия север. А ние си набелязахме Fountain - региона в центъра на запада разделящ севера и юга.
Естествено спазвайки военната традиция напред пратихме най-малкия, та кат умре да не загубим нищо важно. Тогава момчето дори не беше пълнолетно още се справи отлично със сериозната задача. Целта му беше няколко дни да наблюдава региона. Какви са враговете в коя система се подвизават през коя част от денонощието са активни и т.н.
Изборът на база е изключително важно нещо. Тя може да определи още в началото победата или загубата. Може да обрече на провал цялата кампания от раз. Целта беше да намерим система с относително малко присъствие на вражески сили, а същевременно да е:
- да има NPC станция
- да има рафинерия
- да има производствени слотове
- да има медикал център
- да е максимално близо до империята с цел олесняване на логистиката
- да е с добри агенти за мисии
- да е с добри белтове за ратене и миниране
Нали знаете поговорката, че "Ако всичко е наред значи всичко е тотално объркано". При нас нямаше такава опасност защото нямаше станция, която да отговаря на всички условия. Затова решихме да жертване медикал центъра, като се надявахме да не умираме често. Намерихме система с производствени и ресърч слотове в която нямаше присъствие на врагове. Също така системата имаше рафинерия на ниво 50%. Много хора имат грешното мнение, че войната е само стрелба, тактика, издръжливост и боен дух. Повярвайте ми, аз ви го казвам: Без индустрия горните четири стават само за 1vs1. По време на война индустрията е определяща! Алианса BRUCE и още няколко доказаха и че индустрията без военна сила е също нищо.
Деня "D" започна с писъци и тичане с развети коси.
Това разбира се е напълно нормално. Няма значение по-колко пъти казвате на един човек, че той трябва да си подготви багажа, че в багажа трябва да фигурира това и онова. Няма братче! Никой не те слуша, но ако го питаш искаш ли пари веднага, ще те чуе.
Всички играчи (освен някои около една трета) бяха си оставили корабите и контейнерите с имущество в корпоративния хангар в U4. Прилежно именувани, за да се знае кой на кой е. Кариер пилотите започнахме дългата операция по логистиката. В началото 3 пилота, а на края 6. Взимахме нещата от контейнерите излизахме от станцията сакчахме на синогенератора намиращ се в системата Nema и доквахме станцията. Правиш нов контейнер именуваш го с името на този, чиито неща си пренасял и ги оставяш вътре. Така 5 часа. Трудно могат да се опишат нервите, които се изхабяват в тази ситуация. Когато играеш с 2-3 а някои и с 5 акаунта и правиш доста различни неща едновремено. В резултат на моето невнимание и умора направих 3 контейнера и итеми без имена. Бях забравил на кой са били. Коментарите в TS за това кой какви глупости е сложил в канчето си, ще ви ги спестя. Към 9-10 се логнаха и останалите и си предадоха канчетата и те. Предния ден 3 от нашите играчи бяха отишли до нема, за да пренесат горивото за кариерите. В края на операцията горивото в Нема свърши, а ни оставяше пренасянето на всичко от Нема в WY - системата в която щяхме да живеем.
След като привършихме пренасянето на итемите с кариерите започна пренасянето на хората. Всички си логнаха алтовете, които щяха да идват и направихме Флиит. Започна ескортирането на Батълшипите. Един час по късно вече бяхме наближили Nema. От нея до хай сека бяха 6-7 системи. Разположихме целия флиит от 40 кораба равномерно по този път, за да могат транспортните коаби да минат без инфарктни ситуации и да донесът гориво за кариерите. 15 минути отне тази част от операцията. След, което тръгнахме към системата Hiphob, която беше на 14 системи от Nema и същевременно входа на Fountain за конвенционалните(тези които нямат JumpDrive) кораби. Веднага в моента в който се докнах в станцията направих клонинг джъмп и се озовах обратно в U4. Веднага разлогнах преди някой да ми е намерил работа и легнах да спя с твърдото убеждение, че другата вечер, ще бъде по-проблемна.
Това е сайта на ЕVElopedia - идеята е там да се събира информацията от EVE, а също така и историята на корпорации и алианси.
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Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2008.07.02 17:28:00 - [1]
Originally by: Kindra Blades...the former OSS members in Sons of Tangra split off from The OSS after BRUCE succeeded in taking over the area...
Wrong, it was after BULG and friends (that later became Sons of Tangra) left for Fountain that BRUCE finally managed to gain control over The Syndicate, not before.
Originally by: Kindra BladesOnce BRUCE moved to Fountain, Sons of Tangra approached BRUCE for a NAP.
Wrong again, SoT was already in Fountain when BRUCE decided to move there as well. We didn't mind since at that time they were friendly.
Kindra, please get your stories straight.
Anyway, the story goes: PL came to Fountain and a pact was formed between PL and SoT (after some careful consideration I might add) to fight for control over a large part of the region, which was then BRUCE's territory. Soon BRUCE fell apart and others tried to fill the (nonexisting) void. Everybody seems to have appetites for the region, everybody says "yeah, we may go there and claim it if we wanted", some even did (come). And yet, still, here we are... waiting.
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I'm only happy when it rains.
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Не всички имаха пари когато дойдохме, дойдохме неподготвени, биеха ни постоянно защото дори нямахме необходимия опит и правилната стратегия. Оказа се че и враговете ни подцениха и не ни обръщаха внимание. Дойдохме с идеята да станем част от Coreli но те ни казаха че не ставаме и ни тормозеха постоянно. Тогава LOK се върна с натрупания опит от Black Omega (PL) и ни показа нов начин на игра - никога няма да забравя култовия мейл "който не кара цептор до 2 седмици е педераст", но това не беше победния ход - просто правехме големи поражения и понасяхме малки щети - всяхме малко респект в противниците ни и взеха да ни уважават като враг. BRUCE дойдоха с големия си флот и пометоха нашите деморализирани врагове. BLAST и разни други които не си спомням се нанесоха в Fontain под предлог че са съюзници на Goon с тяхна помощ изгонихме и HUN-овете които бяха единствените които останаха да създават проблем. И така ние казвахме Fontain е наш, както и всеки друг алианс "съюзник" на Goon. Но дойде деня в който на PL им омръзна от лъжисъюзници и реши да прочисти Fontain, ресетнаха всички дори и SOT, щастието ни се усмихна тогава LOK да ни уреди една от най-сполучливите коалиции до скоро PL+SOT и да изнесем всички от Fontain и да кажем най-накрая Fontain е наш.
Това е съкратен вариант за това как превзехме Fontain - но за мен поуката е само една - правилни политически ходове и прекланяхме глава когато се налагаше - така че да не усетиш кога да го направиш си е тактическа грешка. Всички постижения ги дължим на правилните съюзи с/у общия враг.
Малък урок по история дано си извадите правилните пуки и Ви пожелавам всичко най-добро.
П.С. 1 Историята дава много добри уроци стига да я познаваш.
П.С. 2 Грешката е че историята се пише от победителите а някои от вашите историци я изопачиха доста за да служи на каузата им.
Vivian Mace
February 22, 2010
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https://evemonkey.wordpress.com/tag/sons-of-tangra/
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Bulgarian Mafia Squad [BULG]
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/718092388/history/
Фонтан:
31/Юли/2007 първо стълкновение във Фонтан - Хън Корп/Хън Рилоудед.
https://zkillboard.com/detail/-7847005/
https://zkillboard.com/detail/-7847006/
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/718092388/year/2007/month/7/
https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/006-L3
2007-11-08 12:00 Gain Sons of Tangra
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LONG AAR Fountain Wars: The Imperium Strikes Back
AAR Fountain Wars: The Imperium Strikes Back
After the end of Redswarms offensive to, first kill SCSAA's, and then to take money moons from TC in Fountain. AAR here:Fountain Wars: A New Curb
A new chapter developed.
The Players: The-Culture [-TC-] I am the spiritual Leader of this alliance, we live Fountain.
The Imperium aka Goons; The Batphone, PAP, 'my people's safety first, content second', grr gon, I don't think I need to explain in too much depth who these dudes are.
Lowsechnaya Shulopen LSH. Lowsec Aridia is their true home, but they own space in Fountain bordering Hophib. Previously we eradicated their sov but they have put down fresh TCU’s and retook the stations, we removed the first attempt at an I-hub and I don’t believe they’ve put down any more. LSH have formed up with RA and other RMC alliances against TC
Red Menace Coalition: RA+Midas22+DreamFleet; These guys own sov in Period Basis and Fountain, are allied to Goons and can form during their KTA a similarly sized fleet to TC, albeit with lower FC skill and fewer capital resources.
F-Core: FREE GATES COALITION, Gang Bang Team, The G0dFathers; F-core has a long history, it's members like to remind anyone who they encounter that they have been in fountain NPC space for 10 years and therefore cannot be evicted and are immune to traditional methods of aggression and pressure.
Now I'd like pass on my personal experiences and opinions about this group of Alliances. There is no debate about the fact f-core have never been removed from Fountain NPC space. I personally believe that Free Gates as an alliance are not, and maybe never were, a traditional F-core style Guerrilla warfare alliance. Gang Bang Team while sticking to the traditional F-Core tactics and formula have in recent years lost some of their best talent to the inevitable growing up and starting family life etc. So while the reputation of these entities is well known and held in high regard as the thorn in the side of Fountain. The modern reality is F-core has developed into a more standard sov holding group, with all the anom ratting and mining that goes along with that lifestyle.
At about the time TC finished taking back the moons, briefly lost to Goons, and towered by RA. There was a DevBlog revealing 'New capital jump ranges'. With relations between F-core and TC never having been so bad, TC leadership reviewed the subtly changed landscape of fountain. Up to this point F-core proclaimed to have no arrangement with the Imperium other than as a batphone to use against TC's (in relation to f-core)superior forces. But Imperium.news[https://i.gyazo.com/e9f7be866a356c152bea13d3207e1ec5.png] reported F-core to be a part of the previously mentioned moon purge campaigns by Redswarm. And although F-core barely assisted on the tower timers and because now some F-Core money moons were in range of TC Staging. TC decided to punish F-core for their transgressions during the last few Imperium backed offensives. It is worth mentioning that RA and F-Core doubled their effforts to cloaky camp TC system, The-Culture ratting carriers are mostly immune to blops drops due to standard proceedures involving standing fleet and FAX machines. But TC's renter alliance suffered greatly to the Blops threat. As a bandaid solution TC allowed the renters to remain rent free until conditions improved. It was identified that most of the 'AFK Cloakers' that barely dropped on anything were owned by Red Menace Co. pilots. With F-Core having fewer campers but getting more kills. TC Leadership decided to attempt to remove RA from NPC Fountain and apply enough pressure to F-Core that they would lose all their R64's and a chunk of morale, because after all when people live in NPC stations they cannot be evicted. With the objective of gaining wealth and freeing up TC rental space and start the isk flowing again.
In F-core's eyes TC forced them to side with Goons and drew them into the war. TC were the bad guys. This is all genuinely true, I do not deny that we attacked previously untouched moons with the sole aim of revenge and financial gain. So having gained a Citadel in the area TC took two moons on what used to be exclusively F-core's side of fountain. Your move.
And move Redswarm did. Red Menace Co. deployed themselves with all their remaining dreads carriers and even some supers, to Serpentis Prime deep in the centre of Fountain in the NPC space known as 'The Core'. The-Culture prepared to fight. Rather than halt our moon offensive and wait to see what RA and F-core would hit first, TC chose to attack more moons. The-Cultures [W.LST] Corporation lead the push by reinforcing as many towers as they could stomach each USTZ evening. A few Fights were bloody both sides losing dreads with F-core losing shield FAX attempting to repair. TC gained the moons whenever Imperium forces were either not present or only in Caracals, confessors or others of their weaker more mobile doctrines. Military Commander Raknor Bile employed 'FozzieClaws' or artillery claws, to harass The Imperium fleets that were called into Fountain. Whenever Imperium forces were called Raknor would make them bleed, killing stragglers, warping in and out with his claws picking off the weak. As the tower timers rolled on we started to notice the coordination between our enemies was less than reliable. On some timers RA wouldn't form at all leaving F-core to try and fight for their towers alone.
I personally decided I could apply extra pressure on RedMenace in Serp Prime. I deployed my eutz corporation [P3AK] to a Citadel in the 75FA system on the edge of the NPC Core. P3AK camped all the Core systems allowing no mission running or general undocking at all. When medium sized fleets were formed we 'up shipped' to our now favourite medium size gang ship the Brutix Navy Issue. We knew the combination of P3AK's oppression campaign and the TC alliance scale operations winning timers and reinforcing everything, would eventually force the Reds to pull back to Delve or Period Basis. It must have become clear to everyone involved that RMC and F-Core couldn't win objectives against TC without Imperium support in the form of a 'proper' fleet. All we had to do now was camp, take moons and wait. In reply to our Corp deployment 'behind enemy lines', with The Imperium showing in force for each timer, our FOB in 75FA(an Astrahus named Sindy) was destroyed. After one failed attempt another two were anchored and onlined, with my 2.8 billion isk snake clone being lost.
The strain of living both in Period Basis and two regions away in Fountain was taking its toll on RMC. Especially as an alliance called The Romulans [ROME] attacking out of Stain, started hitting Red Alliance sov back in PB. Now RA were forced to decide between defending Period Basis or slogging away in Fountain with no victories to show so far. The cracks were forming. It took a few weeks but eventually our enemies Red Menace Co declared by their actions more than publication, they're Russians after all, that they were doing as predicted. RMC's position in the Core was impractical and would only harm the Russian alliances member activity and morale, withdrawing was their only option. The Imperium was called on one last time to form a fleet and cover the move operation of capitals and supers out of Fountain and all the way back to Period basis.
We turned the eye of Goatdor(bad inside joke sorry) onto Free Gates Coalition [-FGC-] who were staging in YZ-LQL nestled right in the centre of the Core, between P3AK's FOB in 75FA and RMC's resently vacated Serp Prime home. Denial of space time was the order of the day; we killed anyone who tried to mission, broke up any enemy gate camp or PVP endeavour, and when gangs of twenty to thirty were formed by FGC and Gang Bang we formed P3AK into Brutix or Nightmares and continued the oppression. These fights of approx 20v20 were fun for all involved I hope, I know my guys love Bruce the Brutix, F Bruce Springsteen.
Finally the slope. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/FREE_GATES_COALITION Free Gates Co crumbled. What percentage of the responsibility goes on TC? I wouldn't like to guess. Tzuko, a prominent member of F-Core even before he became leader of FGC, apparently decided he wanted to sell his Cambion for 50mil and shortly after that he wanted to leave Fountain for pastures greener. I believe he was one of the main FC's and leaders within the F-Core coalition and with him leaving the flood gates were opened. If not fully fail-cascaded, FGC is definitely in a much slimmer and in turn weaker state, I'd say it was on life support but I don't know the mood from the inside.
Again the eye of Goatdor turned, this time to focus on Gang Bang Team [U MAD] staged in WY-9LL. Gang Bang weathered the storm much better than Free Gates, they had alliance meetings to discuss how to counter the problem of twenty foolhardy P3AK pilots living on their doorstep in 75FA. I believe the order was given within Gang Bang to pull all alts and ratting chars from their back systems into WY- to consolidate and strengthen troop numbers. I have respect for this move and most of Gang Bang's actions after the collapse of the RMC offensive, they seemed to be sharpening up and trimming down. In effect we beat them into better shape with small gang pvp and medium sized fleet fights. These fights culminated with U MAD escalating into armour T3's and guardians which finaly found some success against the Brucy Brutix menace. Bruce vs Shield then Armor Which we then escalated past again with our Nightmares, Basi's and a few carriers to break the stalemate of reps. Nightmares vs T3 Armor After that final fight in which we dishonored our families names for centuries to come by dropping a FAX and two carriers into their staging system, P3AK and Gang Bang have reached an impasse. I won't welp to feed them the confidence to fight us and they won't fight anything we present for them because they fear the escalation. At this point I will withdraw my corp from 75FA back into the bosom of TC's staging. I like Gang Bang Team they have spirit.
And so comes to the end another chapter of the 'local content' Fountain Wars:The Imperium Strikes Back. Not a great deal of blood was shed in the grand scheme of things but I promised I would follow up my last AAR. This piece is biased without doubt, but is the 'truth' as I see it from the perspective of The-Culture's Leader and CEO of [P3AK].
Thank you for reading, from Harvey Skywarker.
TL:DR - RMC invades Fountain looking to evict TC and fails, TC still scrap with F-Core over moons... something.. something small gang pvp l33t Orthrus cancer.
by Harvey_Skywarker - The-Culture
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After Campaign Report: The Imperium kicks The-Culture to the Curb.
Comrades hello,
My name is Harvey Skywarker and I am the Alliance leader of The-Culture [-T C-], we live in Northwest Fountain. As you all know Goonswarm recently found themselves in need of a new home. The Delve region is where they chose to settle. We had already deployed to the Delve border to help the Delve residents try to fight the invading Goon forces, this campaign was short and not particularly bloody as most Delve entities either bent the knee(RA) or evacuated(LUMPY). As Goons consolidated Delve, ratted up their ADMs and laid down their infrastructure, talk in fountain became furtive and worrisome. Chaos Theory [KOS] , allies of T-C since WWB, decided that 'Goons were coming' their position untenable they evacuated their space. Fcore and A Fist Full of Fins having applied enough pressure to KOS to make the threat of Goons be the 'straw that broke the camels back'. This left T-C without any blues and without any allies within Fountain. Relations with some former members of the MBC were good but these entities were engaged in their own local conflicts. Talk amongst T-C leadership amounted to these conclusions; Goons can't occupy Delve and Fountain, All our money moons across the divide will die(fountain is cut in half by jump range), The only way that we would be evicted would be if goons abandoned Delve. At this point all corps were told to finish all titan and super builds and not start any more, I advised we had 3-4 weeks before Goons would look into Fountain for something to do.
Across the divide.
As mentioned Fountain is basically divided into two halves by light years and capital jump range. We owned four dysprosium and a few other lower value moons 'across the divide' which were out of capital range, requiring us to use the all important KVN/C-N gate for our Dreads and FAX. The significance of this gate jump in the following campaigns cannot be overstated. After consolidating all the Delve space they needed, and some they don't, Goons started to attack our vulnerable moons. Spaceship Violence, a SIG within the Imperium, took on this task with the goal of gaining money moons to help refill Goon coffers. We sold some towers and others were killed, we rolled over easily. Around this time Red Menace, allied to goons since the start of Goons Delve occupation, decided that they would like to have some space in Fountain aswell as some space in Period Basis. We decided that having RA living in Fountain would be excellent because RA are terrible and we need people to farm for kills. T-C rolled again, losing the border system of Y-2ANO with 'small gang pvp for easy kills' the only resistance.
Russian Offensive.
The Russian alliances of RA and LSH decided they too would like a piece of this pie. In quite suicidal fashion RA with LSH help tried to assault our assets on our northwestern side of the divide. I don't know what the russian FC's were thinking but these moves were so stupid we at first assumed it was a trap. It turns out the RA and LSH FC's are just terrible. We killed a dread fleet supported by RA shield machs and on a second occasion a mach fleet supported by LSH rattlesnakes. These welps cemented the fact that Goons new/old russian allies cannot win an objective against T-C without Goon intervention.
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4598&b=7216920&e=120&t=qvvq
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4600,4596&b=7225581&e=98&t=uvvr
LowSechnaya Shulopen.
Throughout these documented offensives we used our small gang entosis skills to remove LSH from the sov map in Fountain, we had allowed them to hold two constellations close the the Aridia border. But after LSH bent the knee and actively tried to help RA and Goons attacking our assets we evicted their small renter operation, killed their I-Hubs and captured their stations. Leaving the space blank because we didn't actually want it ourselves, meant no counter offensive was possible. We also took back a money moon that LSH briefly held thanks to assistance from Goons. LSH invested in a Fortizar citadel for PNQY system at the entrance to their pocket of sov. We reinforced both of the first timers and the stage was set for a large engagement for the final timer. We bat-phoned our friends from the former MBC offering this offensive timer that Goons would show for. LSH formed tempests, RA formed 100mn AB Tengus and Goons came with their patent MWD Proteus fleet. With ProjectBox coming in their Nightmare fleet on the side of goons, We were trying to assist Darkness' fleet to get into Fountain without getting isolated. Everything took a little too long and the Fort repaired itself. Having got all dressed up to fuck we decided to go in and fight for the sake of it.
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4559&b=7268760&e=150&t=bbfrurvqqraaaaae
Fountain Core.
Word on Fcore's stance regarding the Imperium would vary throughout the following conflicts. I still don't know where they stand so I will be corrected by someone no matter how I paint this. It appears that Fcore have a deal with Goons involving saving their towers, what Fcore offer in return and weather the Fcore line members know the truth of this is unknown to me. The only facts on the matter are; In game media Goons call them allies in the campaigns against T-C, Goons have yet to hit any Fcore money moons or assets, Fcore ships caught by goons have been seen to be released after local 'bitching'. So clearly they are not blue with each other and Fcore have not formed for any of the fights that follow. I'll give them some credit and call it a half-bent knee.
The Coat hanger Offensive.
Goons had done well, their space was secure, money moons gained, scars from WWB were finally healing, they were enjoying the smell of napalm in the morning again. Content was needed. The next campaign they announced was the Coathanger Offensive to destroy the many super capital construction facilities we owned. The reasoning behind this was easy, T-C would have to form to save their titans in build. T-C having had the easy life all summer forgot how to do stront timers and was only really waking from the beach life recently. Luv2beach. Things did not look good for our super cap building towers, although all corps had completed their last builds as close as 2-3 days before. All except one! Special snowflake number 6491 decided that he would build another titan, I suppose because he had already taken a substantial deposit from the buyers. These buyers were lowsec dwellers Escalating Entropy. I may be corrected on the finer points of this deal, but this is what I was told. We bat-phoned, we offered a saturday morning timer that Goons would definitely form for and would be fighting far from potential reinforcements. I don't know the exact words used because I long ago deployed Raknor Bill into the realms of skype and he deals with that side of our diplomacy. You may assume we begged and cried like girls if you choose. Goons killed one baby titan gaining the objective, losing their Bhaalgorn fleet in the process, and most importantly learning the limits of their Bhaalgorn doctrine. Yet another Goon victory.
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4598&b=7252200&e=120&t=bauab
Raknor's Money Moons.
After going from one victory to the next Goons announce their latest Offensive campaign to destroy Raknor's money moons. This offensive would involve reinforcing and then destroying first all the high value moons around the Satyr and then coming further into Centaur constellation. If I get these objectives wrong is kind of irrelevant as we now know it was all a ruse. Well played sir, well played. Anyway, In an impressive display Goons formed back to back fleets all weekend, these fleets would be hard to bare for any ‘normal’ eve player because they lasted many hours thanks to the time needed to form, then get from Delve into Fountain and finally across the dividing KVN/C-N gate. The process repeated in returning to Delve after each objective. We formed for every timer either getting ready to pounce in Rattlers or Machs, should an opportunity to separate Goon sub-caps from capitals or we formed arty claws catching stragglers and taking opportunities to gank isolated caps. Goons successfully Killed four money moon towers and one staging tower over the weekend of the 29th. These moons were given as gifts to RA. Always the political masterminds this was a clever move. Goons must have known they couldn't hold these moons so far from their super staging in Delve. So giving them to RA saves face for Goons when they inevitably get retaken. And as we now know this was all a ruse to stop us from going to Delve and killing their Keepstar, well played.
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99005805/reset/group/365/losses/
To Be Continued:
So here we are, this morning we killed and took back the last money moon lost on our side of the divide. We are still down the moons in Hydra constellation, and we lost a baby titan, but we killed stuff and enjoyed the content. We don't know what the badies will do next but I think for this round the GOOD GUYS WIN.
TL:DR Old school Kugu style 'After Campaign Report', if you want to know what happened in the Goon Fountain campaigns recently you have to read it. It's mostly an AAR of blueballs and hilarious ~political ruses~.
by Harvey_Skywarker - The-Culture
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Много смях.
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=799.0
http://evenews24.com/2014/05/14/bastion-in-the-west-li3-meet-gents/
Повече на: https://www.youtube.com/user/CCPGAMES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZPCiqBLPM8&list=PLF614A7A6461E61E1
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-bloodbath-of-b-r5rb/
http://themittani.com/news/western-front-restless-natives-and-cfc-csaas
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Chronicles
Тук на тази страница ще събирам всичко на което попадна относно историята на българите в Ив и по-специално BULG, BECKS, SoT, BG, RoT, V.L.A.S.T, Ardentia Verba, Bulgarian Space Federation, Flying Bags Inc., BGSB и всички по-големи сформирования от българи в миналото и бъдещето.
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In November 2007, RaDec joined Terra Incognita (TI) as it made it's push into the Fountain Region. However, TI faced stiff opposition from forces belonging to BoB, Pandemic Legion (PL), Sons Of Tangra (SOT) and New Age Solutions Amalgamated (NASA). With such large forces jockeying for position in the region, TI withdrew its assault. TI then made an ambitious move to claim territory from Sylph Alliance (SYLPH). TI failed in their attempt as they were turned back by forces from both SYLPH and Curatores Veritatis Alliance (CVA). Feeling disillusioned and war-weary from almost a year of non-stop fighting, RaDec withdrew from TI to recuperate and regroup.
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Fountain - The recent Puppet Masters [PMS] assault on the Fountain region has come to a grinding halt in the face of heavy resistance from Fountain residents including Sons of Tangra [SOT] and elements of Pandemic Legion [PL].
The assault, staged from a beachhead in D4KU-5, saw the Puppet Masters make a bid for swathes of Fountain with support from Force of Evil alliance. An anonymous source has alleged that Puppet Masters were receiving support from KenZoku in the form of both control towers and tower armaments, though these allegations are unconfirmed.
Dwight Hammerhead, speaking on behalf of Sons of Tangra alliance, believed that the turning point in the campaign came when PMS attempted to take sovereignty in the PNQY-Y system. Mr. Hammerhead claims that Puppet Masters "...dropped a good deal of control towers, which were reported as stolen from our allies Arcane Alliance."
Concerned at the prospect of a protracted campaign, Sons of Tangra leaders decided to commit the bulk of their forces to strike a decisive blow to PMS interests in Fountain. Captain Hammerhead stated "0ren Ishii, a key director and primary target from Bulgarian Corporation [BULG] was quoted saying 'I don't have time for lengthy and tedious POS warfare. This ends now.'"
"SOT and allied forces, including detachments from Pandemic Legion, moved into PNQY-Y and surrounding systems and began reinforcing towers," said Mr Hammerhead regarding SOT's counter attack. "As losses started to mount, the numbers in PMS fleets slowly began to decline."
"Not counting minor skirmishes and roaming PMS gangs of ten to fifteen pilots, the fighting is effectively over," finished Dwight Hammerhead in his statement to the Interstellar Correspondents.
This end to large scale engagements has been confirmed by Arimathea Anthalas of Puppet Masters who tells us "There are some small scale skirmishes in D4KU-5, YRNJ-8, and surrounds. [Puppet Masters] have not been defending any existing installations."
An initial statement by Arimathea Anthalas of Corp 1 Allstars described the removal of DAB corporation from PMS and the circumstances which led to less than amicable parting of ways.
"Apparently [DAB CEO] Aneu Angellus was unhappy with the direction of our alliance and how we chose to correct the problem. He is working on forming a new alliance. Reportedly he has basically the entire list of PMS corps minus NICE1 and GONZO" said Arimathea in his original statement on GalNet.
The reaction to the perceived backroom dealings from other Puppet Masters leaders was swift. "We kicked out DAB from the alliance this morning and closed Aneu's access to the forums to minimize damage."
Aneu Angellus responded to Arimathea's version of events by citing a lack of coherent leadership in the alliance for why he felt it time to split from Puppet Masters. "Arimathea has not been [active] for quite some time..." and "...C4w3 [of Corp 1 Allstars] was meant to be the alliance leader, but bluntly did not step up to the plate."
In his response, Aneu claimed that "Most of the...corporations in PMS are now leaving to join me on my venture - If they are wrong then no-one can be right in all of this."
When asked if removing DAB reinforced the stability of PMS, Arimathea told us that "Getting rid of Aneu was not an action to stabilise the alliance. [It] was damage control."
Sons of Tangra gave only a short response regarding PMS' leadership troubles "I would refrain from commenting on the widely discussed capsuleer pilot Aneu Angellus and DAB Corporation. Whatever internal problems the PMS leadership was experiencing eventually led to the complete breakdown of their offensive," stated Dwight Hammerhead.
In the wake of the stalled assault and internal strife, Arimathea Anthalas confirms that many member corporations have since decided to leave Puppet Masters. "It's hard to say who followed Aneu and who didn't. That's for Aneu to confirm or deny. We wish all corps who either followed him or went separate ways the best of luck despite some of the challenges we had in working together."
Aneu Angellus has so far been unavailable for comment.
[Puppet Masters Statement]
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History of Pandemic Legion - ранната история на Пандемик е тясно свързана с български пилоти биващи тогава основно звено от Блек Омега Секюрити.
http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/in~10101.htm
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Posted - 2009.09.16 02:54:00 - [1]
So I've been looking for a good 0.0 alliance to join for a while and I had been pimping to a few people and I was put in contact with a guy named ******.. I check out his corp for about 61.2 seconds and figure, its the best offer ive had in ages and im bored so I may as well just got for it.
So we do the mail interview thing and they seem interested in me.. API gets passed so we hop on vent for a quick chat and what I assume is a welcome to the alliance party..
I get asked to tell them a little about myself and I get about 3 words in and I get kicked from vent.. Shortly after I get a mail from them that reads "Sorry, this is SONS of Tangra, only whitemen"..
Edit: Removed the name of who I contacted as I don't want a ban.
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After being in somewhat close ties with Sons of Tangra and Pandemic Legion, Somal Thunder grew to enjoy trolling. Garmon is supposed to have had somewhat of an effect, especially with his corporation Genos Occidere and his latest flame, Hydra Reloaded. This development caused Somal to set one goal: To troll PL to an epic extent. The goal was not reached, however, as he was removed from Sniggwaffe for trolling before delivering his final blow, ironic. Fortunately, some trolling had been accomplished and the mission was not a complete failure.
Blade. is an Alliance, who has been through many wars, growth and decline since its creation back in 24th June 2007. Founded by a pairing of 2 main Corporations from the failed Xelas Alliance, One of them is still in Blade to this day, Fallen Angel's. Blade was born in Fountain by wish of SirMolle unto Proxay.
During the early days of Blade, Fountain was very much a testing ground for the newly recruited fleet commanders and members. After a while Blade. moved to Querious region and for many months enjoyed stable growth with successful small roaming fleets and not forgetting the MAX Damage campaign then led by the late Band of Brothers (BOB).
After the disbanding of Band Of Brothers by one of their disgruntled directors, Blade. fought side to side with the GBC allies against the massive forces that where invading Delve and Querious, eventually all space was lost and it was time for a new chapter in Blade.'s history.
Blade. leadership decided to move into the region called Curse and invaded the Hale constellation. During this period Ethereal Dawn and some of their allies had moved into the Hale constellation. Being severely outnumbered Blade. started engaging Ethereal Dawn and won nearly every fight until Ethereal Dawn was disbanded. During this time Proxay stepped down from the heavy burden of alliance leader. The alliance leadership was passed on to Danieljedi, Minifoegann and S0C0M who right away started to mould Blade and change its direction.
During the Curse era an alliance named Kahora Catori after being hostile for the first months contacted Blade. and where accepted into the small list of NAP'd friends, eventually they merged into Blade.
Blade. leadership and members where looking for a place to call home, this lead to the decision to leave Curse behind. At this time Blade. moved to empire space near Querious which was in the hands of Goonswarm and their allies and started raiding into their space successfully with very high efficiency.
After a short while Blade. aligned with IT alliance and joined the invasion of Fountain which was occupied by Pandemic Legion and Sons Of Tangra. After the successful invasion of Fountain Blade. moved into the PNQY-Y station system. Their real home came after a few months when Blade. moved into the Mermaid constellation and deploying an outpost in TEG-SD.
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Fountain is a region of the galactic West, once the home of the Fountain Alliance and Band of Brothers and is now claimed by the Brutally Clever Empire, Morsus Mihi, Pure., and Sons of Tangra, along with a few smaller alliances.
Fountain consists of 17 constellations, Basilisk, Centaur, Chimera, Griffin, Hydra, Kraken, Manticore, Mermaid, Minotaur, Pegasus, Phoenix, Satyr, Skaven, Sphinx, Taurus, Unicorn, and Wyvern. Of these constellations, few are worth much on the scale of strategic or economic importance, except for Pegasus, which is one of the few constellations with abundant amounts of gas clouds that are used in the production of neural boosters. The primary NPC(Non Player Character) corporation that operates in Fountain is the Serpentis Corporation. Their headquarters are located in Serpentis Prime, a system that can be found in the Phoenix constellation.
The Fountain region saw the formation of one of the first alliances to be created, the Fountain Alliance. It was formed by members of friendly corporations to fight against the growing threat that two powerhouse corporations, Xanadu and Evolution, presented to the region. The alliance was actually formed by the CEO of Xanadu, who was impressed by the determination of the corporations living in Fountain to stop him. After 9 months of existence, many corporations that were part of the Fountain Alliance left due to lack of organization and tensions between differing corporations in the alliance, and the alliance leadership was reformed.
Some months after these events, Band of Brothers and Stain Empire attacked Fountain Alliance in an effort to claim the Fountain region for themselves. They succeeded, and Fountain stayed under the control of BoB for many years.
After Band of Brothers took control of Fountain, they left the region in the care of other alliances. Xelas Alliance was the first alliance appointed to watch over Fountain for BoB. They were located in the Fountain region for around 2 years until falling out of favor with BoB and were evicted to empire, where they soon dissolved. FATAL Alliance and Aftermath Alliance were also former Fountain residents that which were instated to watch over the area by BoB after Xelas was evicted. At one point several small alliances, such as RISE, and HUN Reloaded also occupied Fountain.
During the reign of the BoB-installed alliances, Fountain was subject to intrusions by Pandemic Legion, Morsus Mihi, Razor, and some elements of Goonswarm who moved into the area to put pressure on BoB's tenants. Ev0ke and 0utbreak occasionally operate in this area shooting at all-comers. In the past, Insurgancy, better known as Celestial Apocolypse were fighting against BoB in order to claim Fountain, but failed at this task.
In late 2007 several members of the Northern Coalition, namely BRUCE, Pure. and MM, attacked Fountain and drove BoB out of the region. They currently hold the region in preperation for an assault on BoB's home region, Delve.
Afterword Bruce claimed most of Fountain along with Sons of Tangra.
Current events
Recently, Pandemic legion took over fountain from Bruce allaince and has brought in their own renters and allies Which include Red Dawn Allaince, Elitist Cowards and Violent-Tendencies allaince. Sons of Tangra and BOB also hold space in Fountian as well.
Last Edited: 2/21/08
Да пиша едно писмо до ЧешкияЛъв - който пише за eve24
Връзки:
http://www.uk-corp.co.uk/index.php?page=8
http://www.eve-tribune.com/print.php?no=4_50
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/79920
http://eve-history.net/wiki/index.php/Fountain
http://themittani.com/content/soss-58-painful-lessons-it-alliance-5
http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~830.htm
http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Sons_of_Tangra.html
http://eve-history.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
http://viiiguild.com/archive/index.php/t-6351.html
http://www.feedage.com/feeds/2059085/votrians-eve-blog
http://eve-search.com/history/Bulgarian%20Mafia%20Squad/extended/1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88121¤tpage=26
http://www.eve-tribune.com/print.php?no=5_5
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http://www.rifterdrifter.com/2010/01/a-quick-introduction-to-nullsec-politics-part-1/
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http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=1050.msg13092;topicseen#msg13092
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=1048.msg13073;topicseen#msg13073
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=962.15
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=923.msg10868;topicseen#msg10868
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=454.msg3600;topicseen#msg3600
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=492.msg4232;topicseen#msg4232
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=764.msg8221;topicseen#msg8221
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=828.msg9237;topicseen#msg9237
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=457.msg4231;topicseen#msg4231
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=848849
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=445.0
http://bulg.otel.net/forum/index.php?topic=492.msg4179;topicseen#msg4179
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=919585&page=1
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1137759
http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Sons_of_Tangra.html
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=16373.0
http://www.eve-benelux.be/viewtopic.php?t=3004&view=previous&sid=9df7b512ef0d9657e243b2470e48113d
Извадка от тази статия:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88121
Goonswarm: 5363
Morsus Mihi: 2771
Razor Alliance: 1956
Tau Ceti Federation: 1568
Pandemic Legion: 877
Sons of Tangra: 1067
Zenith Affinity: 371
KIA Alliance: 693
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Shamis Orzoz
sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
"SOT were living in WY when we arrived in fountain, and they still live here, in the same way they have been for quite some time. They are far from pets. We respect their abilities and like their tenacity, and decided they were worth keeping blue. They were here when we got to fountain, and they'll be here when we leave."
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Its Atina Palada
OSS - Omega Security Syndicate
BULGARIAN MAFIA SQUAD
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.06.08 16:45:00 - [38]
I like bulgarians.
http://eve-search.com/thread/790790/page/2
http://eve-search.com/thread/1179703
http://evemonkey.wordpress.com/tag/sons-of-tangra/
http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/EVE_Online
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Fountain
http://forums.data.bg/index.php?showtopic=1724664
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=790790
за Flying Bags Inc.
[13:37:58] Thelonious Blake > не ми е приятно да призная (и да ми се смеете ми е през оная работа) все още не съм го побеждавал
"and I hate to admit (and I don't give a flying bag of balls if you laugh) I have yet to beat him."
как се превежда това?
Dec 3 2010, 01:43 AM
I'm not sure about other nation's T4 fighters, but did anyone else besides me laugh at the choice for the P-55 Ascender for the USN? I know this is just a game, but that particular aircraft was essentially a flying bag of fail (especially in terms of it being a naval aircraft). Just sayin'
това също?
QUOTE (CaptainJeff @ Dec 3 2010, 03:43 AM) I know this is just a game, but that particular aircraft was essentially a flying bag of fail (especially in terms of it being a naval aircraft). Just sayin'
Isn't that just perfectly fitting then? You know...
и това?
http://replicainscale.blogspot.com/2011/12/north-americans-finest-waterfowl.html
Note that 041 has it's blind-flying bag fitted in the aft cockpit.
http://panecillosmutantesandrogenos.tumblr.com/
http://creaturebox.com/artwork/pilot/ - логото на сайта и да потърся в текста flying bag/s