Chat log 040220

[07:00] VirtualWorx Visitor Manager Deluxe 1.53: Hello Scottmerrick Oh, welcome to ISTE VENetwork!

[07:14] OliveTree Lighthouse: hi Scott :)

[07:15] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Hey, Olive!

[07:17] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): For some reason two out of the three displays are losing the media settings between logins.

[07:18] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah

[07:18] OliveTree Lighthouse: that's odd

[07:18] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): There you are in the silhouette!

[07:18] OliveTree Lighthouse: btw I set up the three previous videos on Vialogue https://www.vialogues.com/user/olivetree.lighthouse/vialogues/creator

[07:18] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): With spiff dancing

[07:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: oh lol

[07:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: I was wondering

[07:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: how did you create that?

[07:19] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): That is awesome, your Vialogue!

[07:20] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I used Gimp and about an hour erasing background and filling in foreground then making the background transparency and exporting to .png.

[07:21] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah in GIMP :)

[07:22] OliveTree Lighthouse: sorry had to attend to someone at home

[07:23] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): All's good. I'm signing up for Vialogue in an external browser

[07:23] OliveTree Lighthouse: ok something else that a friend suggested that may be useful is this tool https://www.tricider.com/

[07:23] OliveTree Lighthouse: I need to step away for few minutes ..

[07:25] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ㋡

[07:33] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): afk too for a bit

[07:54] OliveTree Lighthouse: I am half back lol

[07:54] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): me too. cooked and ate a Guy Kibby with maple syrup and brewed a cup of java

[08:01] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Okay, then, we'll hang out for a few and see if anyone else shows up ㋡

[08:01] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I had a Zoom faculty meeting with my school colleagues yesterday, had 77 people onlline

[08:02] OliveTree Lighthouse: I'm back and ready this time :_

[08:02] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I was very proud of my admin, all new to Zoom. It went well.

[08:02] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): hello hello

[08:02] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): hahah... hadn't realized I was still dancing

[08:02] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Hi Spiffman

[08:02] OliveTree Lighthouse: hi Spiff

[08:03] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): Eesh Death by Zoom meeting eh?

[08:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): It was pretty good actually

[08:03] OliveTree Lighthouse: I don't think traditional means bad

[08:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): They have a bunch of new requirements in place for our distanced workday

[08:03] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): that's good... I 'm teasing mostly... but I've had so many online meetings they are starting to get tedious

[08:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I hear that

[08:03] OliveTree Lighthouse: everything is useful in the right way

[08:04] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): What's the weather like where you all are?

[08:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: warmer now

[08:04] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): We have had sun, but its been a cold spring

[08:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: 22 max today c

[08:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: not f

[08:04] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): No one is complaining though because we had a mild winter here in snow country

[08:05] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Only 18.3 here (thanks, Siri, for the conversion)

[08:05] OliveTree Lighthouse: lol

[08:05] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): hehe

[08:06] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah 18 is still nice on the cooler side

[08:07] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Spiff look what Olive did: set up the three previous videos on Vialogue https://www.vialogues.com/user/olivetree.lighthouse/vialogues/creator

[08:07] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I have begun noting already watched vids at the site with strikethrough

[08:07] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): just to keep us honest ㋡

[08:08] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah ok :)

[08:08] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): And if you have any pics do share them so I can pop them into the site gallery

[08:08] OliveTree Lighthouse: ok

[08:08] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Yeah, Olive, I like it just a bit warmer so I can fish ㋡

[08:08] OliveTree Lighthouse: :)

[08:09] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Okay, then, let's let Andrew do thehonors today, can you click to spin, pal?

[08:09] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): oooh....

[08:09] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): looking now

[08:09] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): Yay! Great job Olive

[08:10] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): just use the left hand display

[08:10] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): oh ok

[08:10] OliveTree Lighthouse: :) you said you wanted to discuss them more , this a good way of annotating them too

[08:10] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Yes!

[08:10] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): and just copy and paste the result into chat

[08:10] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): ok

[08:11] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): ruh roy

[08:11] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): lolol

[08:11] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): oh... its slowing down

[08:11] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): it's a long spin

[08:12] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): David Hoffman: Sputnik Mania

[08:12] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): If you get one we've watched you can just remove it from the wheel by clicking remove

[08:12] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I'm on it

[08:13] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y9ppbU0864

[08:13] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): removed it

[08:14] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): There we go. let's pause

[08:14] OliveTree Lighthouse: wait for the countdown or watch?

[08:14] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah ok

[08:15] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Here ccomes teh countdown

[08:15] SL Timer: Timer Ended

[08:15] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Groovy

[08:16] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): That's about the size of Pluto, right? jk

[08:16] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I'm setting my sun to midnight ㋡

[08:17] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): We need a popcorn machine. I have one I'll add.

[08:17] OliveTree Lighthouse: hahaha

[08:18] OliveTree Lighthouse: I wonder what this crisis will inspire

[08:18] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): That's 2 plugs for his documentary. and counting.

[08:18] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): 3

[08:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: oh wow

[08:19] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): hahaha

[08:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: this is one of the shortest

[08:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: but nice

[08:19] OliveTree Lighthouse: a reminder

[08:19] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): yes... quick and focused

[08:19] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ha

[08:19] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Your go Olive

[08:20] OliveTree Lighthouse: ok

[08:21] OliveTree Lighthouse: I watched a really interesting video

[08:21] OliveTree Lighthouse: will post it later

[08:21] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ㋡

[08:21] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): want to choose another frm the picker?

[08:22] OliveTree Lighthouse: that's what i was doing

[08:22] OliveTree Lighthouse: but it didn't give a url

[08:22] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): spinningspinningspinning?

[08:22] OliveTree Lighthouse: just a name

[08:22] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): gimme the name and i'll fetch

[08:22] OliveTree Lighthouse: Arthur Benjamin: Teach Statistics before Calculus

[08:23] Spiff (spiff.whitfield): sorry. gang... have to toggle back to rL for tech support! High fives everywhere

[08:23] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMKmovNjvc

[08:23] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): kk thanks for dropping in!

[08:23] OliveTree Lighthouse: ok Spiff have a good day

[08:24] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): got it loaded

[08:24] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): will countdown at your go

[08:24] OliveTree Lighthouse: got it

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[08:24] OliveTree Lighthouse: go :)

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[08:25] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Sweet. I wanted to see this one

[08:25] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Lord I miss Obama

[08:26] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Calculus AND statistics were the two classes that keep the "Summa" off my Vanderbilt Cum Laude degree, lol

[08:28] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Wow we're getting the short ones today!

[08:28] OliveTree Lighthouse: lol

[08:28] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): What do you think about that message?

[08:29] OliveTree Lighthouse: I think it makes sense

[08:29] OliveTree Lighthouse: I have to say never thought about it that way

[08:29] OliveTree Lighthouse: but from a practical point of view, he has a point

[08:29] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): It really was just an opinion piece with an hypothesis but not much supporting illustration

[08:29] OliveTree Lighthouse: true

[08:29] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I wanted more, but maybe that's what he intended.

[08:29] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah yes

[08:30] OliveTree Lighthouse: may be just throwing it there to start a lot of questions

[08:31] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Let's do another? or if your rl is pressing we can go on. Yes, I am going to look further. I took a year of Calculus but I still really don't know what it is. I only passed because the tests were open book and I could reverse engineer questions by looking for patterns, lol

[08:31] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I'm gonna spin

[08:31] OliveTree Lighthouse: I remember that as I young learner , I always complained about some of what we studied because i couldn't understand why I needed it

[08:31] OliveTree Lighthouse: ok

[08:32] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Yes, the meme, Oh well, it's another day gone by and I still didn't use Algebra, haha

[08:32] OliveTree Lighthouse: lol

[08:32] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60OVlfAUPJg

[08:33] OliveTree Lighthouse: so even if thinks studying statistics is more important , it's going to be how to make it very relevant to students

[08:33] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Loaded and paused ㋡

[08:33] OliveTree Lighthouse: ready

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[08:34] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): running!

[08:34] OliveTree Lighthouse: yes

[08:34] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): more math, oh boy

[08:34] OliveTree Lighthouse: lol

[08:35] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): this is good for me though

[08:35] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ha at the ostrich staring us right in the face

[08:40] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Interesting and now more true than ever = calculating has been eliminated from math

[08:40] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I just use Siri

[08:40] OliveTree Lighthouse: :)

[08:40] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I do recipe conversions on my phone without really thinking much at all

[08:42] OliveTree Lighthouse: hmmm I understand what he's trying to say but the car allegory didn't work for me :)

[08:43] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): It was a stretch

[08:43] OliveTree Lighthouse: ye

[08:43] OliveTree Lighthouse: lol

[08:43] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I don't think many early drivers really new how the spark plugs functioned

[08:43] OliveTree Lighthouse: no

[08:44] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): my calculus class

[08:44] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): like powerpoint, lol

[08:45] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): oh yay algebra

[08:46] OliveTree Lighthouse: that's the problem that some of the students use calculators but without understanding why they're doing what they do and that's different

[08:47] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): yes. teaching programming beginning with messy problems is the ticket i think

[08:48] OliveTree Lighthouse: yes

[08:48] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ha

[08:49] OliveTree Lighthouse: my niece spent an hour reading with me and trying to understand how to calculate angles to create a game on scratch when she didn't want to do her geometry homework

[08:49] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Real world problems don't enter into the classroom much, though I see some teachers in my school doing it more.

[08:49] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): LOVE scratch

[08:49] OliveTree Lighthouse: yes :)

[08:50] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): That's a great example

[08:50] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): yours i mean

[08:50] OliveTree Lighthouse: yes

[08:50] OliveTree Lighthouse: and this is not just students and math

[08:50] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I teach coding to my kids, or rather they learn it, with Minecraft: Education Edition

[08:51] OliveTree Lighthouse: nice one

[08:51] OliveTree Lighthouse: real life problems

[08:51] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Ah the F word

[08:51] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): "fun"

[08:51] OliveTree Lighthouse: yes lol

[08:51] OliveTree Lighthouse: oh btw

[08:51] OliveTree Lighthouse: about Minecraft

[08:51] OliveTree Lighthouse: I

[08:52] OliveTree Lighthouse: I've been involved with EVO for several years now

[08:52] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): EVO?

[08:52] OliveTree Lighthouse: Electronic Village Online

[08:52] OliveTree Lighthouse: part of TESOL

[08:52] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): That rings a bell

[08:52] OliveTree Lighthouse: or

[08:53] OliveTree Lighthouse: they are courses/moocs that are linked to TESOL

[08:53] OliveTree Lighthouse: so

[08:53] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ah

[08:53] OliveTree Lighthouse: one of the sessions is about using Minecraft for teaching language

[08:53] OliveTree Lighthouse: english

[08:53] OliveTree Lighthouse: it runs for 5 weeks but

[08:54] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ah that sounds wonderful

[08:54] OliveTree Lighthouse: many educator miss on it because it's not offered except once a year with around 13 other sessions that have to choose from

[08:55] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I should look at that, we are highly hispanic, 40 first languages in my middle school

[08:55] OliveTree Lighthouse: I was thinking that it would be really useful if we offer something all year round

[08:55] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Yes, especially these days

[08:55] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I'm now expected to do work tasks at least 4 hours a day at home

[08:55] OliveTree Lighthouse: an opportunity to learn any time of the year they are able to buy the game and jump in

[08:55] OliveTree Lighthouse: VSTE has a server

[08:56] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): VSTE should run a server for Education Edition

[08:56] OliveTree Lighthouse: why Education edition

[08:56] OliveTree Lighthouse: I think using the java has a lot of advantages

[08:57] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): My kids can work in MC:EE from home if they have a computer but can't work together. Some of my work time will be figuring out how to make that happen.

[08:57] OliveTree Lighthouse: kids already play and love it

[08:57] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): EE is java in Microsoft MakeCode

[08:57] OliveTree Lighthouse: I actually tried it myslef

[08:57] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): block coding with a button switch to work with Java

[08:57] OliveTree Lighthouse: hmmm not sure what that is

[08:58] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): It's one of the two built in coding platforms in EE. The other is Tynker.

[08:58] OliveTree Lighthouse: I heard about using minecraft to teach programming but haven't looked at it

[08:58] OliveTree Lighthouse: ah

[08:58] OliveTree Lighthouse: thing is

[08:58] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I have an ISTE webinar from a couple weeks ago lemme get th url

[08:59] OliveTree Lighthouse: I play on several public family friendly server, including one italian and one spanish

[08:59] OliveTree Lighthouse: kids can do a lot on Java but don't know about the coding part of it although

[09:00] OliveTree Lighthouse: there is a scripting language now that is used to mod the java

[09:00] OliveTree Lighthouse: and on one of the servers that I play on the kids doing the modding are very young

[09:00] OliveTree Lighthouse: it's amazing

[09:00] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): https://connect.iste.org/viewwebinar/walk-the-walk-step-by-step-virtua-1?CommunityKey=da1c31e1-349a-4f40-b51e-8471c433babb&tab=librarydocuments

[09:01] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): You'll recognize the presenter, lol.

[09:02] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I LOVE seeing kids "get it" in Minecraft. There's a lot of video of my lab in there.

[09:02] OliveTree Lighthouse: I can't access it

[09:02] OliveTree Lighthouse: how do I access it as a guest?

[09:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Oops you don't. But I'll put the mp4 file they shared with me up on Dropbox and give you a link tomorrow or next time you can make it here.

[09:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I forgot they limit those to ISTE members.

[09:03] OliveTree Lighthouse: ok thank you so much :)

[09:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): ㋡

[09:03] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Well friend, I must away. The dog is looking at me begrudgingly.

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: lol

[09:04] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): Walk me, he's saying with his eyes.

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: I have to go do some work here too

[09:04] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): See you soon!

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: thank you so much for continuing the meets

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: very useful

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: have a great day

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: :)

[09:04] OptoMystic (scottmerrick.oh): I think we'll start getting more folks soon. You too!

[09:04] OliveTree Lighthouse: waves