D I S C U S S I O N - What does a boy named Finch, a girl named Violet, and a bell tower have to do with suicide prevention? Just who is saving whom?
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In my MFA program, I forced myself to begin a story 26 different ways. It was a science experiment. I wanted to see just how many different ways I might start a story and perhaps figure out what made some of my ideas stand out or rise up from the others. It really was a crazy idea, but it did show me that it really isn't about where to start at all. It's about how to connect your story to your reader, for your reader, and with your reader.
How are these two stories different?
When I saw how different these two stories are, I was reminded of this. ALL THE BRIGHT PLACES starts with the inciting incident: the suicide attempt--or thoughts of. IT'S KIND OF A FUNNY STORY also begins with this. One is real; however, and the other is a dream the main character wakes up from.
These two stories really separate when the readers experiences how the narratives moves forward from there. In one story, the main character seeks help, and, in the other story, the main character and his co-character, avoid help. Perhaps, seek help from each other.
I enjoyed thinking about and hoping, as a reader, that these characters would ultimately be okay. The most promising moment of that appeared in ALL THE BRIGHT PLACES when the two characters come together and decide they might be a bit more than just friends. There was hope.
Hope appeared in IT'S KIND OF A FUNNY STORY when a new love interested entered the story, stage left--or at the psyche ward. Enter Noel. She pushes Craig to draw and he discovers it soothes his anxiety and stress. She helps him confront his issues by playing communication games, singing songs, and helping others--what he does for his roommate at the end of the story deserves applause (no spoilers here).
What is similar about these two stories?
This rings similar to the project the two characters took on together in ALL THE BRIGHT PLACES as Violet and Finch pushed each other to leave objects behind, messages, and to write down what they experienced in each place. This device in the story served to help Violet overcome her fear of continuing her writing after her sister's death.
What's totally different is that one story ends with a warning about suicide and the other story serves up hope in what is yet to come. Which is the better ending? It's just like openings. The best ending serves the story well and ties up all loose ends. In this case, both accomplish that.
I L L U S T R A T O R discussion
by Jennifer Niven
D I S C U S S I O N
What is the significance of the bulletin board and the use of post-it notes on the cover?
Both Violet and Finch share creative ideas: what are they?
What does Finch do to change up his bedroom and why?
When do Violet's parents change their mind about her hanging around with Finch?
Does Violet realize the crisis Finch and rescue or connect with him in time to save him?
C O N N E C T O R discussion - T E X T to Society
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R E V I E W C O M M O N M Y T H S & D I S C U S S I O N
Consider this fact: Each day in our nation, there are an average of over 3,703 attempts by young people grades 9-12.
Consider these three (3) Common Myths Link shared on The Jason Foundation (n.d.) and how they relate to this novel:
"People who talk about suicide won't really do it."
"If a person is determined to kill him/herself, nothing is going to stop him/her."
"People who attempt suicide and do not complete suicide are just trying to get attention and are not really serious."
Why does Violet not let anyone know that she, too, was in the bell tower with Finch, contemplating a jump to her death?
What caused Violet to consider harming herself?
Why was Finch suicidal?
How are their situations similar and different and how do they dispel the myths listed above?
C O N N E C T O R discussion - T E X T to Text
Dear Evan Hansen
by Val Emmich
It's Kind of a Funny Story
by Ned Vizzini
Thirteen Reasons Why
by Jay Asher
I Was Here
by Gayle Forman
by Ned Vizzini
D I S C U S S I O N
How might you compare and contrast ALL THE BRIGHT PLACES to one of the stories above?
What is the strongest way to share a suicide story? Where is the right place to start?
Do you start after the suicide with someone who leaves 13 tapes sent to the 13 people who contribute to your death like in THIRTEEN REASONS WHY?
OR
Do you start a suicide story with the dream of jumping and being confronted by your family talking about how very selfish that decision is, only to feel yourself fall, like in IT'S KIND OF A FUNNY STORY and check yourself into a psychiatric ward?
OR
Do you begin with two random strangers meeting on a bell tower at school only to save her and have her turn into a story about how she saved you--and this includes your complete inability to let go of the notion that she's suicidal (like you) and you must try to do something, you must try to save her like we experience in ALL THE BRIGHT PLACES?
Where do you start a story?
Where does that "just right place" come to you from?
It seems to me that when it comes to writing a story, you need to start in that "just right" place that feels right to the author. That's what these folks did. And? And it really turned out "just right" in proving there's a lot of places to start a story about suicide, so a bell tower and a girl named Violet and a boy named Finch were probably just about perfect.
So, how did the author of ALL THE BRIGHT PLACES pull the reader through this story?
Was it the shared trauma and conflicts two characters faced?
OR
Was it the project they were assigned: Go visit random places and learn about your state?
How serious would you take a project like this if it were to be assigned to you?
How serious did Finch and Violet take it?
How did this journey help the story's rising action feel more authentic?
C O N N E C T O R discussion - T E X T to Self
It was spring and change was in the air. The ground was thawing and turning green. A bundle of boys were racing out of gym class, only for one boy to go home, lock himself in the bathroom (not letting an older brother at home at the time in) and shoot himself. Suicide wasn't a topic I thought I would have to address as a parent of high schoolers, but this was the brother of one of the boys my son skateboarded with. It was sudden. I can recall my son walking up to me in shock. "I just walked out of gym class with him eight hour (at the end of the day), and he seemed fine. How would no one know?" And that is the tough part of suicide. It's a quiet disease. That is depicted clearly in this novel.
D I S C U S S I O N
What do you learn about suicide by reading this story?
(Feel free to use text evidence in your response.)
Why is suicide such a complicated issue?
How would you help someone you felt was suicidal?
Yesterday, I heard sad news. My oldest son's friend took his own life. No warning. No knowledge that anything was off or wrong or even a miss. He was Marines, two deployments. Recently returned home. New home. New Job offer. Great family. Lifelong friendships. Just no warning and total finality of it all. Memories of the above situation return, and I read my questions, and that last question haunts me: How would you help someone you felt was suicidal? And it gives me pause. Perhaps, the better question feels like: Do we ever really know?
C O N N E C T O R discussion - T E X T to Students
D I S C U S S I O N
(Feel free to use text evidence in your response.)
What entices Finch to keep talking to Violet?
Why does Violet not let anyone know that she, too, was in the bell tower with Finch, contemplating a jump to her death?
What group assignment do Finch and Violet decide to do together?
What assignment gets completed by the end of the novel and what is its significance to the story?
What three places get added by Finch and do they go together to these final places?
What does Violet (and readers) learn in the final three places Finch visits?
What does this novel say about the complexities of teen suicide?
Should authors avoid sensitive topics in writing novels for teens? Why or why not?
There are justifiable rules for the shift between middle grade and young adult when you explore it from the pen of a writer. The subject matter and the age of the main character are the biggest tipping points. There are certain, steadfast norms like the fact kids like to read about kids who are a bit older than they are. A curiosity, I suppose for what will come next in life. But, it seems to me, that in recent years, with the all-too-instant access to content online, these rules and norms are blurring, and rendered not so clear.
Compare-Contrasting Two Titles With Sensitive Subject Matter
A novel I recently read overnight is the perfect example: Fighting Words by Kimberly Brubaker Bradley. Like All The Bright Places by Jennifer Niven, which discusses suicide and sexual discussions, Fighting Words introduces teens to even tougher subjects like sexual abuse, drug addiction, homelessness, incarceration, and the foster care system. Oftentimes, this would tip a novel to YA, but it is middle grade. As Kirkus (August 11, 2020) says, "Refusing to soft-pedal hard issues, the novel speaks with an astringent honesty, at once heartbreaking and hopeful."
But as a Literacy Teacher, who suggested kids select a library book to read, knowing we would track their progress, and I witnessed four girls out of 90+ students select All the Bright Places to read. One opted not to read it, and I am not sure why, but she replaced it out for another book. The others, once they were finished reading the book, chimed in on a few questions:
Q: What entices Finch to keep talking to Violet?
A: Finched spoke to Violet because she smiled at him and it was genuine and he wants to get to know her better.
Q: Why does Violet not let anyone know that she, too, was in the bell tower with Finch contemplating a jump to her death?
A: Violet doesn't let anyone know because it would concern her family. They already lost her sister, the previous year, and she did not want to face them or her counselor.
Q: What assignment gets completed by the end of the novel and what is its significance to the story?
A: The significance is the fact that every place they went held new meaning. It became, not just a place, but an experience, as they learned more about each location and it deepened the meaning of their town.
Q: What three places get added by Finch and do they go together with his final places?
A: Finch added a church along with the last three places to help Violet understand that the thing he realizes is that it's not what you take, it's what you leave behind for others, that matters most in life.
Q: What does Violet (and readers) learn in the final places Finch visits?
A: Finch went to Devil's Hollow, and he put his shoes up there (same with hers) and the room filled with children's laughter and many happy people. He then went to the biggest ball of paint place, and he colored it Violet, for her. Finally, he climbed a billboard and wrote his name up there.
Q: What does the novel say about the complexities of teen suicide?
A: The author talks about how it takes a while to happen: there are many reasons that go into that decision and many things that lead up to it—and it isn't random.
Q: Should authors avoid sensitive topics, like this, when writing novels for teens? Why or why not?
A: No, authors should write about it, and the truth is that it happens and if anything, they would put a warning on the book, but I think they should write about these things because they are real and they happen and putting it into a story helps students connect and think about life's deeper meaning.
What I learned in making suggestions that kids select a library book to read that is contemporary and newer is that more often, the book was relayed to other readers and then they, too, read the title. It worked just like that "great movie" coming out and the word-of-mouth advertising that promotes it. What I also learned was that there were a significant number of readers that shifted books before finishing the title. However, I also walked away knowing I could do so much more in using this "individualized " approach to improving literacy— if I worked up the discussions and curricular ties in for the titles being selected.
What's also significant is that a group of boys who typically do not read selected the same title to read and this seemed to motivate successfully completing the read.: a biography, Becoming Mohammad Ali by James Patterson and Kwame Alexander. A true, sports-like, competitiveness broke out that included knowing what was coming next or being the most knowledgeable about this hybrid narrative-freeverse biography. It helped them finish the read, so this, for me, supported how book clubs work in classrooms to motivate great discussions and keep kids on track and accountable for their reading. When the long-form didn't work, the kids themselves helped to motivate each other.
The other thing that made an impact was the selections made. I noticed that only a handful of kids selected nonfiction. I wondered, given the recent novels we read together in class, which were based on true accounts and or supported by real events, and the nonfiction we experienced together would play a role in their novel selection. However, it really didn't seem to.
Turn Reading Motivation into a Contest, While Keeping It Honest
What also surprised me was that some students really read far and wide and deep and so many titles that it really equated, it seemed to me, as to why they were doing well in school. They had built a better library for themselves. They had more content to discuss and talk about. While our average was around 1.5 novels, these students had read some eight titles in a month, which is great! For this activity, students earned a $10 Amazon gift card for the most read books. We had three students who read eight novel-length books during this time— and had written a GimKit Ink book review on its contents. This is huge and would be easy to do from a Library Media Center to support teachers. The librarian would serve as the go-to for the student's authenticity, just because he or she had, in fact, read many of the titles. I did have some "issues" with some of the reviews from other students, which shared incorrect information and was likely shared because they were just trying to "get it done" without reading the text.
My goal now is to create content that 1) ties into the curriculum, 2) shares activities for certain standards (with links) that are featured in the text, 3) hosts a writing contest, 4) posts discussion questions by the chapter (and perhaps Google forms that check comprehension), 5) shares writing activities around each book, and definitely—taking a page out of Amazon's Steve Bezos's own personal reviews playbook (Ante, 2009)—6) includes personal reviews from teen readers. This would gift teachers with a fabulous amount of material that would help them expand and improve their reading literacy lessons.
All in all, individualizing the reading and observing their behaviors when it comes to reading, I learned a great deal about my kids—all ninety-some—for I noticed who was not connecting and I was able to step in and motivate them to consider other well-paced titles. Often, this made the difference in keeping them reading!
When I suggest titles to kids, I select the many titles like the ones I shared with kids in my Literacy classes this year. I try to be mindful and aware of the structure of the texts, the voice, the literary techniques the authors use to reach readers and what can be learned from them as well as how well I am supporting diversity efforts and much as current trends and issues in children's literature: narrative nonfiction, supporting fiction with well-researched nonfiction, the upward trend of hybrid narrative and graphic novels.
What Kids Selected and What It Revealed
What was clear is that kids select books based on their own tastes, but times are changing. When I asked kids what makes up a great book, it was quite fun to experience the responses from 95+ students. Most felt books could be selected based on everyday issues they were most curious about. The more reluctant readers mentioned the length of the book, the images that were in the book, and how many words appeared together on each page. The answers really pointed to the trends we are experiencing in both our teaching and in our creations in children's literature. According to The New York Times (0000), Smithsonian signed a contract to release nonfiction materials to a company with a joint effort to create graphic novels. Not surprisingly so when we think about this response. Middle-grade novels are coming out as illustrated or hybrid, regular with graphic novel panels (a trend starting from Kate DiCamillo's Flora and Ulysses: The Illuminated Adventures (2013) to the new Disney's Flora & Ulysses: The Movie release (2021).
What also seems significant is that many students read the novel other students were reading. This means that we, as educators, might stop focusing on a whole novel read and focus more on how reading introductions might inspire further reading. As a teaching professor of Rhetoric in a small local college (now university), I challenged myself to bring in five novels to each lecture. I would use them for various literacy samples and also take a moment to pitch the titles. Not so surprising, most books vanished after lectures, so I began prepping at least ten books per lecture so I could keep up or meet demand. I ended up finding an empty shelf in the main community room and started placing books I was ready to pull from my own bookshelf and placed a post-it note on each one about what I loved most about the title. Not so surprising is that each book vanished quickly, and I was quite happy to think about a student who might be changed by reading them.
When I think about this same situation this year, it proves true, so I believe a big part of the library is to become the voice of students about what they love to read. So, working with kids to promote books for kids seems like the best idea yet. That is why, on this site, I have taken time to share the reviews students wrote about the books we read (see Reader Reviews). I also believe that if schools would allow for post-in notes inside covers (read to be deemed appropriate), it would also be a quick, quiet, and quite effective way of promoting reading throughout the district. In one middle school where I served as a reading and technology teacher, I not only brought new titles into the library, we create that shelf of Good Reads, and we encouraged both teachers (myself included) to place a "post-it-note book pitch" on the cover that shared why they loved reading it. This, too, was effective.
This really makes a lot of sense, but it is the small stuff that is easy to forget when it comes to promoting great reads. While, for our situation, each student wrote a review about their book reads, it was certainly apparent that those who loved their books spoke up and encouraged others to read it.
References
Ante, Spencer E. (October 15, 2009). Amazon: Turning Customer Reviews into Gold. Bloomberg. Retrieved from https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2009-10-15/amazon-turning-consumer-opinions-into-gold
DiCamillo, Kate. (September 24, 2013). Flora & Ulysses: The Illuminated Adventures. Candlewick Press: Somerville, MA.
Gustines, George Gene. (January 8, 2020). New York Times. Smithsonian to Bring American History to Life in Graphic Books. Retrieved from https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/arts/smithsonian-graphic-books-idw.html
Patterson, James and Kwame Alexander. (October 5, 2020). Becoming Muhammad Ali. Jimmy Patterson: New York, NY.
Acevedo, Elizabeth. (March 6, 2018). Poet-X. Quill Tree Books/HarperCollins: New York, NY.
HISPANIC-PACIFIC ISLANDER CULTURE. Xiomara Batista, a Harlem teen "an Afro-Latina heroine, tells her story with blazing words and powerful truth." I would share this for the bold voice Acevedo presents here. Her coming to trust her own journey of acceptance of her place in the world.
Bradley, Kimberly Brubaker. (August 20, 2020). Fighting Words. Dial Books, Random House Books for Young Readers: New York, NY.
ABUSIVE CULTURE. When two girls: Della (10) and Suki (16) navigate a world without their mother, who has been arrested for blowing up a motel room making meth, leaves them to fend for themselves with Clifton, a sexual predator, who was her mother's boyfriend. Following this catastrophe, both girls try to find their way back to normalcy but find themselves tackling the true pain and suffering that comes with abuse and bullying.
Keller, Tae. (January 28, 2021). When You Trap A Tiger. Random House Books for Young Readers: New York, NY.
KOREAN CULTURE + FOLKTALES. This year's 2021 Newbery Winner does not disappoint. It provides a glimpse at Korean culture and folktales and presents it in an interesting way: on the cusp of life's loss and grief --all on the shirt tales of profound love. There's a great duality here in this text between reality and fantasy and it's undeniably powerful. What shows the most skill is the delicate dance between the folktales that are being shared and illuminated in reality for the main character to consider: her halmony (her grandmother) as part tiger, part girl, part keeper of stories comes to terms with life's final moments and long-lasting legacy.
Reynolds, Jason. (2017) Long Way Down. Atheneum/Caitlyn Dlouhy Books: New York, NY.
BLACK PERSPECTIVE. One boy. A Brother shot. A choice to make: Will I avenge my brother's death and "follow the rules" or will not? This book has received many awards and for good reason. It should be a part of any exploration on diversity -- AND it's the best book to use when studying PLOT. It follows the plot diagram explicitly and then serves up a surprise that will bust out and boost discussions at the very end. There are good reasons why this book was dubbed by Jason Reynolds, himself, as "Boyz in the Hood meets A Christmas Carol"—five or more of them. They represent the ghosts of the main character's past that meet with him in the elevator. This is a Newbery Honor Book, a Coretta Scott King Honor Book, a Printz Honor Book, a Los Angeles Times Book Prize Winner for Young Adult Literature, longlisted for the National Book Award for Young People’s Literature, winner of the Walter Dean Myers Award, an Edgar Award Winner for Best Young Adult Fiction, a Parents’ Choice Gold Award Winner, an Entertainment Weekly Best YA Book of 2017, a Vulture Best YA Book of 2017, and a Buzzfeed Best YA Book of 2017.
Thomas, Angie. (September 4, 2018). The Hate U Give. Balzer + Bray: New York, NY.
BLACK CULTURE. A 2018 Newbery Honor Book, Coretta Scott King Honor Book, and Michael L. Prinz Honor Book, The Hate U Give begins with a horrific incident. A black teen gets killed for reaching for a comb or hairbrush. And Starr, who was with him at the time, cannot come to terms with what happened but is also having trouble finding her voice to stand up and speak out about what happened. A nice compare-contrast title for The 57 Bus. Lots to discuss and a random tid bit: my favorite word in this novel: is so perfectly placed: "Exactdamnly."
Venkatraman, Padma. (2020). The Bridge Home. A Nancy Paulsen Book/Penguin-Random House Books: New York, NY.
INDIA CULTURE. Travel to India where we find two sisters, Viji and Rukku, decides to leave home to find and redefine family as street urchins who learn to forge a life for themselves. This novel offers the opportunity to explore the true story beneath this text (shared in the author note), discuss and compare the rupee to the American dollar, and delve into what makes up great dialogue--and the power of action tags versus regular tags in our storytelling. Dialogue and using it to differentiate the characters in this book is one of this book's best attributes.
Woodson, Jacqueline. (April 21, 2020). Harbor Me. Nancy Paulsen Books: New York, NY.
MIXED CULTURES & REPRESENTATIVE STRUGGLES. Six kids from various cultural backgrounds and concerts meet in a room to chat and discover their stories connect them. From Esteban's father's deportation, Haley's father's incarceration, Amari's fears of racial profiling, and Ashton's adjustment to his changing family fortunes, they are similar and different—and that's beautiful. When they are together, they share feelings and fears and unite to redefine what it means to be brave as a group that celebrates diversity and inclusion.