Plato and Parmenides

Plato takes Parmenides’ side by arguing that:


Plato and the concept of "Idea" (Eidos)

Plato and the Sophists:  

Sophists believe, similar to postmodernism, that "Being in itself" is unknowable. Platoagues against it: Just as sight pertains to sensible objects, so thought has its own objects.  By identifying Being with “idea” (eidos), which is only accessible via thought, Being becomes intelligible, or intellectually knowable.

“It seems to be that whatever else is beautiful apart from absolute beauty is beautiful because it partakes of the absolute beauty, and for no other reason. … it is by beauty that beautiful things are beautiful.” (Phaedo 100c-d)

Dialectics

For Plato, the term “dialectics” embodies the art of dialogue (dialegesthai), the exchange of ideas and opinions in pursuit of truth.

Two senses of dialectics: The formal or methodical sense designates the art of breaking down and analyzing concepts and ideas. The substantial sense designates the knowledge and grasp of the idea (i.e., of Being itself, the truth of the matter).

Reality, Mathematics and Philosophy

“... mathematics, more than any other discipline, teaches us that true knowledge pertains to ideal shapes and sizes rather than sensible ones.  When a geometer discusses the properties of the triangle or the circle, he does not speak of the figures he can draw on the board… but only of the triangle or the circle as it can be apprehended by the mind… In the so-called real world, there are no really parallel lines, nor any triangles whose angles actually add up to 180 degrees.  In mathematics, one must posit “intelligible” entities; the likeness of which can only be achieved through thought.” (Grondin, 2012: 35)

The “Metaphysical” Separation of the Line: Republic VI

To hold the system together and integrate it into our experienced reality of flux, Plato needs some opposing principles. According to him, philosophical or dialectical knowledge necessarily leads to a “non-hypothetical” (anhypotheton) principle which “not only pertains exclusively to ideas and their interrelations, it also justifies the hypotheses themselves.” (Grondin, 2012: 38)  “... all the other ideas derive their Being and their essence from the idea of the Good.” (Ibid., 40)

The Sun Parable: “According to Plato, the sun allows sensible objects to be seen and our eyes to see them.  The cause of seeing thus resides neither in the eye nor in the visible things, but in a third term:  the sun’s light. … Now, the idea of the Good, says Plato, has a similar role in the intelligible world.  It is the intermediary between intelligence and the intelligible.  The principle of the idea of the Good would therefore be the cause (aitia) that makes the sight of what is intelligible possible… and bestows on our minds the ability to grasp them.” (Grondin, 2012: 39)

The Demiurg:  In his Timaeus, Plato suggests that the world may have been created by a demiurge, who provided order to the cosmos by “mixing two ideas:  the same and the different.” (Grondin, 2012: 42)

The principle of unity: According to Aristotle, Plato posited two important principles to reality:  the One (hen) and the indeterminate dyad (aoristos duas).

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