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M: Did they really?
H: Yeah. Some of the fellows from back east or around there, relatives sent them
deals that showed Eleanor telling the people in the United States that the Second
Marine Division should be two years over in the islands before they were brought
back into the U. S. because they were hired killers! She said that! Now can you
imagine us wanting to be two years over there after the war! That's what she said.
We didn't like that very well. She stayed that one night, and they had some fancy
home. This camp was on some kind of ranch at one time. There was a home there.
The generals and that used it for their headquarters. I had a working party one morning
and we had to go up there and clean that out. Of course, she left, but somebody
wrote in there - in the bathroom - the heads - "Eleanor piddled here" [Laughter].
I had a second lieutenant, he hadn't been with us very long, he was a professional.
He always took a notion we had to go up that darned mountain after we got over our
having fun all the time. Been there for a couple of months, then we got on schedule.
Every morning he'd take a notion to go up that mountain. It was a long ways up
there. Several times we had to go by the first battalion camp, just off from ours, and
one morning we went by there and there was a wild boar hanging there butchered.
"Aw, Lieutenant, hold it." I was a sergeant then, and I said, "Let's make
arrangements to get that off that tree cause it would look a lot better in our camp.
These guys are just going to eat it." "Oh, I don't know." We were going up that
darned fence row, got up there quite a ways. There was a barbed wire fence, a
pasture coming along the hill, and there was sheep on it. And all at once - the
lieutenant was first, I was second (I was platoon sergeant), platoon behind - I said,
"Hold it a second." "What do you want, Sarge?" "Watch that little dog", a little dog
about that high, short haired, black dog, "Watch that little son-of-a-gun! Just watch
him!" That little fellar would go up to a big ewe, get her by the throat, pull her
down and kill her. And 1 said, "See those others around there? He's already done
that to them." "Oh, my God! Can't we do something about that?" I said, "Yeah, we
can do something about that, Lieutenant." I reached in my pocket (we weren't
supposed to have any ammunition with us), I had a round, put in my 30.06 and I
blasted that little sun-of-a-gun. Then it was "My gosh! Thank goodness! Sarge, that
was a good shot!" I said it had better be. When we started up the hill again, he put
his hand up, "Halt!" We all stopped. "Sergeant, where did you get that round of
ammunition? You aren't supposed to have any ammunition." "Sir, I found it down
the trail; you walked right over it." Of course, I had it in my pocket the whole time.
I said, "Now, I'm sorry I had it, found it." He said, "Why?" I said, "All we've been
eating is mutton!" Lieutenant, you don't have that stuff, but all we've been eating
is mutton stew, mutton stew. And," I said, "I'm getting sick of it and look at what
I did!" He said, "I'm glad you did, I'm tired of stew, too." He had quite a big
problem, that lieutenant. He had never roughed it at all like the average guy would.
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M: You told me earlier that conditions in New Zealand weren't so comfortable, besides the mutton.
H: We lived in eight-man tents. Same kind of weather that we have here in Oregon in
the winter time, no snow, but it was wet and cold; and we didn't have no blankets.
No mattress and no wood floors. It was miserable. I found as much paper as I could
cause I knew that if you put paper on your cot, cold air wouldn't come up through
so bad. That was worse than any concentration camp - well, not worse - but bad enough.
M: How long were you there?
H: Nine months. It took that long to get replacements and recuperate, to get everybody
ready to fight again.
M: Still the same unit? But getting smaller.
H: Oh, yeah. That's the reason we got the replacements. To replace everybody that
got killed. [Doesn't remember the numbers.] And then we hit Tarawa. The lieutenant
I had then lives in Oakland now -- heck of a nice guy.
A funny thing -- the man who bought the house behind me back here [in Beaverton, Oregon],
named Bill. In the hospital right now, in bad shape. St. Vincent's (blockage of his intestine),
but his ship took us in on Tarawa! I met him here about four or five months ago. So many
ships I was on - so many islands - might have been the Middleton. I know later the
Middleton took us in on Saipan, but I didn't pay too much attention to the names of the
ships.
Anyway, on Tarawa, we was on this big ship, a transport, about seven miles out, and
we had to get into a ramplighter they had then, with the front dropped down. Of
course, our company was in the first wave. My platoon was in the first wave on Red
Beach, just to the right of a long ramp running out where they load stuff on to take
to the island. Kind of a dock ran out there 600 yards - that far out they had coral -
you couldn't come in on boats, you had to come in on ramplighters and rendezvous
out there seven miles to pick up our amphibious tractors to get on to hit the beach.
When the first wave hits, you go right in on the beach with them. In the amphibious
tractor, the lieutenant looked at me and said, "Sergeant, don't you have any nerves?"
I said, "What?" "Don't you have any nerves, at all?" "Yeah, I got nerves, why?" He
was shaking like a leaf. He said, "I'm scared to death." Not the word they usually
used in the Marines. He said, "You're not even shaking; not even disturbed." I said,
"Lieutenant, let me clue you in on our deal. This is my third one." I said, "When
you go through two of them, it's just like going to the bathroom. You don't get
scared." He never forgot that.
But anyway, I looked behind when we got right on the beach, looked back when they
were coming in on the ramplighters and dropping them off 600 yards on the coral
because they couldn't come in, and that water out there was just like rain from the
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