The Auld Family

Herb Auld Recalls 63 Years in Cariboo

by John Simitak (100 Mile Free Press)

Herb Auld leaned back in the chair behind the desk in the showroom of his original dealership and garage building on Highway 97 in 100 Mile House and said: "The best move I ever made was to come to the 100. It's been good to me. I've done as well here as I think I could have anywhere in British Columbia, and I don't see that I could have done much better anywhere else. I'm happy living here."

He maneuvered the chair back to the desk and fingered a pen.

"Of course lots of others have made good here. They worked hard and made good. They kept their noses to the grindstone and worked. I guess that's what you have to do wherever you are."

Herb arrived in 100 Mile House in June, 1918 at the tender age of four years in the company of his father, an ex-policeman, who died in Kamloops in 1965, and his mother, Charlotte, who died in 1960. Also in tow were the other Auld children, Helen, Charlotte and Tom Jr. who was killed in a gun accident in the winter of 1927.

"We came up from Vancouver on the Cariboo Wagon Road with a team and a wagon. We didn't take the old PGE (Pacific Great Eastern Railway, now the BCR) which only went as far as Lone Butte. Dad shipped our stuff via the CPR to Ashcroft and then we came up the Cariboo Road as most every-one else did.

"There was nothing in the 100 but a cattle ranch (Bridge Creek Ranch) and the ranch foreman, four or five cowboys and the old log store. We stayed here a few days and then went on to Forest Grove and lived in a little old cabin, the remains of which are still standing on the road below Jones ' house.

"We kids went to school in Forest Grove, either walking the two miles to school or riding a horse. The store and post office were half a mile from where it is now, at Old Forest Grove Lodge. The woman that ran it was Mrs. Phillips who had originally come from Forest Grove in Oregon so that’s how it got its name.

He said the store changed hands in 1940 from Mrs. Phillips to her son who operated it until 1946 when he sold to Bob Parkin and Archie White who ran it until it burned down in the early 50s.

“The school was on the same site as the one now—a big log building. And there was a big old barn there for the students who rode if they didn’t want to walk. There were no automobiles in those days. And that’s where I finished going to school in 1929 when I was 15 years old. That year I started to haul the mail from here to Canim Lake in an old one-ton Chevy truck. It was my first job. Every Tuesday morning I had to come to the 100 and pick up the mail at the railroad station and bring it down to Jack Lloyd who was running the store. He sorted the mail and I took it to Forest grove and on to Canim Lake. There was no snowplow service in this area until 1937, so for seven years we all used horses to get around, starting around New Year when the road would snow in and stop car Traffic.

WORKS IN MILL TOOHerb worked the mail run every Tuesday for a little over 10 years until 1940. The remainder of the week was spent working for his father who operated a sawmill in Forest Grove, the first such mill in the area.

“When the Second World War started most of our young people went to war or to the shipyards in Vancouver. We were still running the mill and had a heck of a time getting enough help to run it. But before that , during the depression, we had all kinds of help, although they didn’t make much money, and we worked 10 hours a day; not like today, what with coffee breaks and all.

“We had an old water-wheel that ran the mill for many years. But then we had a dry summer in 1932 so dad bought an old steam tractor and shipped it up on the PGE to the 100. He paid the shipping charges with railroad ties cut at the mill.

“We drove that old tractor from 100 Mile to Forest Grove on its own steam. We had to bale water out of Bridge Creek at the site of the old low bridge and haul it in barrels to the tractor. It took about 100 gallons of water a mile to keep that old tractor going, and it took us about three days to get it to the mill."

The tractor operated the sawmill for five years until Tom Auld installed a stationary steam boiler. He sold the tractor to the McMillan brothers who had begun a sawmill operation at Lone Butte in 1946.

"I was the only one who had steam engineer papers so I had to stick with Glen and Jim (McMillan) and the boiler. We drove it from Forest Grove across the old bridge, then to the Black-stock subdivision site. They took over from there, and I kissed her goodbye."

MOVES TO 100 MILE HOUSE

Herb worked in the saw-mill until 1947 when his father sold it to George Moore of Vancouver. The deal included 1,200 acres of land and a large house. Later the mill and the house were destroyed by fire.

"That's the year I moved to the 100, and in the fall started to build the present garage. I worked until the snow got so deep that I couldn't work anymore."

He said other buildings in the village included the old 100 Mile store directly across from his garage, the old cafe, plus homes that had been built by the Jens brothers to house their local sawmill employees.

"Behind me and to the south was all swamp and meadows. My building was the last on the south end of the village. Then in 1952 the first police force arrived in town and took over a building north of mine. The first officer was Const. Ron Duncan.

"During my first winter there were about 10 people here for Christmas -- Bridge Creek Ranch foreman Bob Streigler and his wife who lived on the hill, and three of four ranch hands. A fellow by the name of Mitchell -- we called him Mitch -- and his wife Bea ran the store. She lives in Langley. Streigler was the ranch foreman for about five years and lived in one of the old houses built by Lord Martin Cecil which the next ranch foreman, Alex Morrison, occupied later on.

MONEY TIGHTIn the years before the outbreak of World war Two in 1939, money in the Cariboo, as elsewhere, was not merely "tight" as it is today, but downright squeezed out of existence for most people.

"In the early 30's," Herb said, "a Cariboo beef cow might get the rancher one or one-and-a-half cents a pound, so how could you make money? You had to keep them in a corral a day before the meat company buyer arrived, and haul water and feed them and wait until the train came at about one in the morning. You'd load about 25 cows to one car, then get on your horse and ride back, either to the Lodge at the 100, or to Forest Grove or Lac La Hache, or wherever."

During the height of the Depression many destitute men passed through 100 Mile House on their way to Wells or Barkerville where they hoped to strike it rich in gold. It was a vain hope. Their favorite mode of free transportation was the PGE.

"Anywhere from 50 to 100 guys would be on the train when it pulled into Exeter

Their favorite mode of free transportation was the PGE.

"Anywhere from 50 to 100 guys would be on the train when it pulled into Exeter Station in the spring of 1931 and 1932, " Herb related.

"Two railway policemen would then jump out of the baggage car and chase off as many as they could. But when the engineer blew his whistle, half the guys got back on the train and away they went. The rest of them then had to grab their bags and walk into the 100."

He said many of the men "put the run" on Ah Joe, cook at the old 100 Mile stopping house, for some breakfast before they hiked up the road on their way to Wells or Barkerville.

"Ah Joe did a lot of work," Herb said. "He had a table that must have been 20 feet long and fed whomever travelled on the Cariboo Road. The meals were about four bits (50 cents), and another four bits to bed down your horse for the night.

"When I drove horses from Canim Lake to 100 Mile I had to carry a coal oil lantern in one of the sleighs so’s to have enough light to see what I was doing. The Bridge Creek Ranch Barn was left open where I put my team, but I had to have my own light to un-harness the horses, tie them in, and lock up.”

THREE MEALS ON TIMEHe said meals in the old stopping house were served at six in the morning, at 12 noon and six at night. "If you weren't there at those times, you got nothing to eat."

He said the stopping house included a bunkhouse.

"And they had a big pot-bellied stove in the main room with a big railing around it. And everybody put their clothes and socks on it so's they'd be dry in the morning.

"The old floor was tramped down to a swayed belly because I think that old building had been there for about 60 years at that time and the ranch hands and miners and everybody else went back and forth through there with calked boots so that the old floor was tramped into a trough.

"The old house was built all of logs and everything in it was hewn with an axe. No nails".

100 Mile House Free Press

November 25, 1981

CONCLUSION[Last week Herb Auld recalled how he first came to 100 Mile House as a four-year-old; his school days in Forest Grove; conditions here during the Great Depression; and a description of the old 100 Mile stopping house on the historic Cariboo Wagon Road.]

He remembers how the old stopping house was "going strong" when it burned down in April, 1937.

"I just came into town with my sister when I saw the flames jumping up through the far end of it. The storekeeper was out in the store and the rest of the boys were in the Highlands below the present site of Ainsworth's mill, feeding cattle.

And the cook -- I guess he didn't know a thing about it. He was out back somewhere in the long part of the building that sticks out back.

"It went up like a box of matches, just like the Free Press (April 3, 1980). And then about 10 years later the old store burned down. Went up like a matchbox, too. Because once the fire gets going inside and breaks out through the windows, there's little hope. And there was no water here. The shakes flew off the store roof towards the barn and into the corrals, but nothing caught."

Herb says it took a year or two for the village to come to life after the war.

LIGHT-STARTER

"I started my business in the early spring of 1948. And Lord Martin had a light plant behind where the Esso station is and I went over and started the thing every morning at six. I had installed electric gas pumps, the first in this town, and needed the power to run them.

The light plant ran all day until 11 p.m.

"Then you pulled the string and that was the end of lights in 100 Mile for the night. So if you were going to party all night you had to get some lanterns."

The village remained about the same, Herb said, until the road construction company, Dawson & Wade, came through with a new road in the fall of 1949 -- completed in 1952 -- part of the new Cariboo Highway 97 to replace the old historic and dusty, bumpy, narrow Cariboo Wagon Road.

"Everybody thought I was crazy to come here and build a garage because the traffic at the time was very light. And then, to make things worse, a big flood hit the Fraser Valley in 1948 and the highway was cut off. There wasn't any traffic through 100 Mile House from May 20 to July 15."

However, Herb had not lost his senses by building the garage. On the contrary. He did a landslide business as the only garage in the village supplying gas, tires, parts and odds and ends to the road-building contractor who also rented part of Herb's new garage building as a storehouse for grease and oil supplies. Since then, Herb hasn't looked back. He has successfully tackled various ventures related to transportation, including a taxi and school bus service, logging truck and chain saw sales, auto sales and parts, and a car dealership.

Herb also hauled cattle to Vancouver in the 1940s, returning on each trip with a load of freight for local customers. He said he loaded up at Forest Grove at 6 a.m. and drove 18 hours to the stockyards at the foot of Fraser in Vancouver.

"It was all gravel to Cloverdale, and the shale was bad on the tires. You needed a good tire pump, which I had -- a Golden Rod -- and which was perfect for truck tires because it pumped a lot of air ... more than your usual pump."

WARM ROCKS,

WARM FEET

He recalled the old touring cars which "sped" along at 35 miles an hour.

"In the cars between 1926 and 1930 you warmed rocks to keep the feet warn, and you blanketed up. Then came the four-door sedans and two-door coupes, the bodies made of wood with sheet metal over the frame and two-inch slats on the roof which were covered with fabric. And the only heat you got was from the manifold through a hole in front of your feet. In the winter you carried a bag of salt so's you could rub it on the windshield and defrost it."

He said he sold only horse- drawn equipment when he first opened the garage because tractors were scarce in the district. He changed over to tractors in 1951, and also changed dealerships -- from Massey-Harris to International Harvester because of a greater demand for the latter's trucks in the lumber industry.

"At one time I knew everybody on the Cariboo Road from Clinton to Williams Lake because I was either hauling lumber or sawdust or delivering lumber in summer from our mill, besides doing the mail run for 10 years."

He credits the orderly growth of 100 Mile House village to Lord Martin Cecil, a pioneer Cariboo rancher who recently inherited the British title of the 7th Marquess of Exeter following the death in England of his brother, the 6th Marquess of Exeter.

It was in 1930 that Lord Martin took over operation of the Bridge Creek Ranch, purchased in 1912 by his father, the 5th Marquess of Exeter. The ranch owned the land on which the village now stands.

ORDERLY VILLAGE DEVELOPMENTIn Herb Auld's view, 100 Mile House and area was fortunate in having Lord Martin in its midst, that the village benefitted from his vision of orderly development.

"First," said Herb, "Lord Martin made sure the village was built under good supervision. Secondly, he let the land go at a very reasonable price to people who wanted to lease the Bridge Creek Ranch lots so that they could build and help start this town. "Lord Martin let them in very reasonably on leases; they didn't have to buy the' land; they leased it for about $1.50 a month which was just a gift.

"They had the option when the town was incorporated to buy or to let the lease run out, which many did. I bought my property but maybe some others are still on leases. But what Lord Martin did was a way of opening up the country.

There was good control, as to where streets should go in the village and the kind of buildings to be put up. In many small towns I've seen, the streets are as crooked as a dog's hind leg, and all crisscross ... just like Lac La Hache where, when you get out back of it, you run into dead ends.

"But our town is very well laid out. So we were fortunate that it was controlled and built to specifications that he Lord—Martin required."

Herb tilted back his hat and reflected.

"I've had a busy life, but it's been a good one. I've worked long hours; we all did and didn't get paid much for it. And time didn't mean as much then. But these punch clocks have changed our whole way of life. Nobody starts until they punch the clock. But in my day if the work was there you got to it."

As far as Herb Auld is concerned, the work is still there, and he's getting to it.

100 Mile House Free Press

December 2, 1981

Interview with Herb AuldHerb’s father Tom Auld made a visit to the Cariboo in 1917 to look around. The family moved in June of 1918. They came up the Cariboo wagon road from Ashcroft where their belongings had been shipped. Herb was four years old at the time. He remembers a milk cow tied to a wagon and the long trip. The Auld family settled two miles from Forest Grove along the Canim Lake Road.

Herb attended the Forest Grove School until he finished grade 8 and quit in the spring of 1929. There were about seven children in the school and they either walked or rode a horse. It seemed to him that there was a new teacher every year. After he left school he worked for his dad for a while and then in the fall of 1929 he got the contract to haul mail from Exeter to Canim Lake. When he wasn’t busy with the mail he worked on the family farm where they ran about 125 head of cattle. They always had a big garden and butchered their own cows, hogs and sheep. In addition they did quite a bit of hunting.

Herb was married in 1946 to a Vancouver girl. They set up the 100 Mile garage in 1948 and pumped their first gas on the 12th of May. He obtained the Massey Harris farm dealership as well as the International Trucks dealership. They did a good business in gas and trucks. At that time there were 10 people living in 100 Mile including Herb’s wife. The road to 100 Mile House was paved in 1951 and hydro arrived in 1957.

Over the years he has seen a tremendous growth of population.

There was a relief camp located at the foot of the 83 mile hill where they built wheelbarrows and shovels. Herb hauled lumber there. The camp was disbanded in 1934 or 1935.

Before the road was paved it took 18 hours to take his truck with a load of cattle to Vancouver. The road was gravel all the way to Cloverdale.

The Auld mill was set up in the early 20s. It was powered by water from the creek. His father built the wheel himself and it was 8 feet wide and 24 feet around. The water wheel rotated at 8 rpm but the head saw ran at 600 rpm. It worked well until the 1930s when the creek went dry. The wheel burned in 1938 and was never replaced. A steam tractor was used for 10 years and then a steam boiler until 1947. The mill burned in the late 50s.

There was a Japanese relocation camp at Taylor Lake and Herb supplied them with lumber.

Helen Mary Clingan Wood nee Auld

Helen Auld was born 24 December 1916 in Vancouver. She was the daughter of Thomas James Auld born in Ireland in 1855 and Charlotte Georgina Clingan. Thomas Auld was a carpenter and in 1906 he came to Toronto where he took a job as a policeman. He also spent eight years as a policeman in Vancouver. He met Charlotte Clingan in Vancouver but they had been born ten miles apart in Ireland. They were married in Vancouver on the 20th of March 1912.

Vital Event Marriage Registration

Groom Name: Thomas James Auld

Bride Name: Georgina C W Clingan

Event Date: 1912 3 20 (Yr/Mo/Day)

Event Place: Vancouver

Reg. Number: 1912-09-067750

B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B11376

GSU Microfilm Number: 1983704

Thomas and Georgina Auld had four children.

Thomas 6 January 1913

Herbert 23 September 1914

Helen 24 December 1916

Charlotte 28 April 1919

Thomas John Auld was tragically killed in 1927 by the accidental discharge of a gun. He was 14 years old.

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Thomas John Auld

Event Date: 1927 11 18 (Yr/Mo/Day)

Age: 14

Gender: male

Event Place: Forest Grove

Reg. Number: 1927-09-394220

B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13132

GSU Microfilm Number: 1952311

In the spring of 1918 the family left Vancouver and journeyed by train to Clinton. Charlotte Auld and the children took the stage to 100 Mile House while Thomas followed with a team and wagon. It took him a week to make the journey to Clinton. The only person they knew in the area was Mr. Biss. They initially homesteaded 160 acres but gradually increased this holding to nearly 1500 acres which included the current town site of Forest Grove. The early years were difficult for Mrs. Auld (Charlotte) who was at heart a city girl. In those days if there was a severe illness it was necessary to go to Vancouver for treatment and in the 1st winter Charlotte Auld was stricken by acute appendicitis followed by gall bladder problems which necessitated a stay in Vancouver of nearly four months. This left Thomas Auld with the care of the family which he managed with the help of a hired girl. Helen Auld remembers that her father was not much of a cook and that prunes and rice were a frequent dish.

When the Auld family first arrived they lived in a little cabin on Mr. Oscar Brown’s property. It took until 1935 to finish a proper house. Until this was complete there were only two bedrooms in the existing dwelling so the Auld boys lived in a bunk house. Helen recalls that the telephone arrived in 1924.

Thomas Auld was a farmer but soon realized that a better living could be had by running a sawmill. He initially dammed Bridge Creek and attempted to power his mill by means of a turbine. This did not work and he next attempted a water wheel and finally a steam engine. The mill employed from 2 to 11 men depending on demand and the season. Most men were local and were fed by Georgina Auld. The farm provided milk, beef and later mutton. There was no refrigeration in those days and to use the meat before it went bad a “beef ring” was established with neighbours and a butchered animal moved around until the meat was gone. There was in addition a “wonderful” vegetable garden.

At various times the Auld home was a guest ranch and even a hotel for visiting policemen and the Indian agent.

Helen recalls neighbours: the McNeil’s, Herby and Benjy, Slim Hendricks, Gene Ladoucer.

Staple supplies were purchased by case lot from Woodwards and other wholesale outlets in Vancouver. Off season fresh vegetables could be purchased from Lillooet which arrived in 100 Mile by train and were brought in by young Herbie Auld when he delivered the mail.

Georgina Auld served as a nurse on the Canim Lake Indian Reservation in the employ of the Indian Department. Many local Indians were employed over the years in the mill and are remembered as good workers.

For entertainment there were dances in the winter and picnic outings in the summer. Christmas was a wonderful time because all of the local schools would put on Christmas concerts. The Auld family went to them all – Bradley Creek, Buffalo Creek as well as Forest Grove.

About 1924 the first cars began to appear on local roads. Helen recalls that Lester McNeil had one of the first – an old Ford.

There were several bachelors in the area including Oscar Brown, Andrew Johnson and Dick Millie. Oscar Brown died in 1935 [sic] of heart trouble.

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Oscar William Brown

Event Date: 1931 4 21 (Yr/Mo/Day)

Age: 59

Gender: male

Event Place: Forest Grove

Reg. Number: 1931-09-465407

B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13143

GSU Microfilm Number: 1952654

Helen Auld went to Forest Grove school until she was in grade 8. She tried to do correspondence in grade 9 but with French and algebra on the curriculum it was very difficult and she gave it up. The Forest Grove school was a small log building with wood heater. There were typically 7 or 8 students in the class. She recalls that a cousin of Mr. Gustafson rode horse-back from Buffalo Creek to teach in Forest Grove. The log school burned in 1930. The new school was built by Mr. Greenlee and was located further up the hill. The Auld children often rode to school on horseback sometimes with four kids on one horse.

She recalls (Texas people) Mr. and Mrs. Buchanan on Canim Lake who owned an old truck affectionately called the “galloping goose.” In the early days Grandpa Pinkham at Eagle Creek would meet the mail run by row boat having rowed 8 miles down the lake. In 1929 Herbie, Helen’s brother, got the mail contract.

In 1936 Helen Auld came down with appendicitis was taken to Williams Lake through snowdrifts and was six weeks getting home.

She recalls seeing the old ranch house in 100 Mile burn. At the time Mr. and Mrs. Forbes lived there.

She met her husband to be, Judy Wood in 1937. He came to the Auld mill as a hired an. Hired men were paid $1.50 a day and board. In the winter they earned $40 a month and board. The hired men lived in bunkhouses. Helen and Judy were married in November of 1938. They continued to live at the home place while Judy worked in the sawmill. There were often 30 to 40 people at a meal in the Auld home.

Helen and Judy Wood had three children.

[1]Roger 20 October 1941

Norman 18 December 1951

Tommy 6 December 1952

All three children were born in Kamloops. Thomas and Georgina Auld moved to Kamloops in 1947.

Helen recalls that their electric lighting was generated by a Delco Light Plant – a 32 volt system with storage batteries. They had a propane stove and fridge. Sawdust was stored in the basement for a heating stove with a big hopper that was filled twice a day. She kept a big garden and up to 500 chickens which were purchased every February. These chickens were sold all over the country and the eggs were sold to by case lots of 37 to the 100 Mile Store. Helen and Judy moved to 100 Mile House in 1955 and to Lac La Hache in 1960 where they ran a motel for fourteen years. They later settled in 117 Mile.

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Helen Mary Wood

Event Date: 1984 3 24 (Yr/Mo/Day)

Age: 88

Gender: female

Event Place: Burnaby

Reg. Number: 1984-09-006668

B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13638

GSU Microfilm Number: 2073155

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Julius John Wood

Event Date: 1982 8 18 (Yr/Mo/Day)

Age: 69

Gender: male

Event Place: Williams Lake

Reg. Number: 1982-09-013204

B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13622

Julius John Wood

Julius (aka Judy) Wood was born in Athabasca, Alberta on the 24th of July 1913. His father was Louis Hay Irving Wood who was born in 1880 in Scotland. His mother was Natisha Rice, born in Belfast, Ireland in 1885. They were married in 1912 and had four children. His father came out to Canada because he wanted to be a farmer.

Judy went to school in South Athabasca until he was 12 years old when he went to work. He bought a violin with his first earnings and learned to play by ear. ( I can recall him playing in our house while my mother played the piano.) He came to BC in 1937 and worked in Vancouver for 2 or 3 months. He quit this job and took the train as far as Ashcroft as he intended to meet a friend in Dawson City. Arriving in Ashcroft he found himself out of money so walked up the Cariboo Highway as far as Williams Lake where took a job with the PGE and later at Exeter Station. He was employed “tamping railway ties. He spent a month a Wright Station and a month at Exeter Station before taking a job in Tom Auld’s Forest Grove sawmill.

He started out driving a team skidding logs out of the woods but later became a sawyer. At the time Judy worked for Tom Auld there would have been about a half dozen men employed. He thinks, however, that in the early years there may have been as many as twenty. A waterwheel ran the conveyors and the edger but a steam engine ran the head saw. The waterwheel was powered by a dam on Bridge Creek. In --- a fire wiped out the mill but Tom Auld rebuilt but no longer used the waterwheel. He did, however, keep the dam on the creek so that the logs could be floated. Much of the output from the mill was ties of all dimensions with the 5 X 10 ties exported to England. The mill was situated two miles east along the road leading to Canim Lake.

The only entertainment in the area in the area was dances at which Judy often played his violin. He met his wife Helen Mary Auld, Tom Auld’s daughter, when she came out in the truck to pick him up at Exeter Station. She was with her sister and wanted Judy to ride in the back but he got in front, with his fiddle. They were married in 1938.

After they were married he continued to work in the mill and lived with the Auld family. They later bought the old Bates place and built a home on 1200 acres. To make a living he ranched and sawmilled. In 1947 Tom Auld sold out and Judy worked 6 more months for the new owner. In 1949 he ran a sawmill on the Indian Reserve. This work lasted until 1951 when the Wood family moved to Kamloops for the winter to help Tom Auld build a four plex. The Auld seniors had retired to Kamloops. Judy and Helen returned to Forest Grove in May of 1952 where they continued to run the ranch and Judy worked in a sawmill.

The hours were very long as Judy had to get up at 4 am in the morning to feed the cattle before going to work in the mill. In 1954 Judy and Shig Uyeyama bought a sawmill west of Tatton – U & W Mill. They were under contract to Gordon Graham who obtained the timber for them. This operation lasted until 1959. Judy and Helen sold the ranch in 1955 and moved to 100 mile House where they leased land which they eventually bought. In 1959 they bought a motel in Lac La Hache which they ran for fourteen years.

They later acquired considerable land in the Lac La Hache area.

Judy and Helen had three sons. The eldest was Roger who I ([Robert White) knew at school in Forest Grove and later at boarding school (University School) in Victoria. Roger had been at the school a year when I arrived to start grade 9 and it may well have been on Judy and Helen’s recommendation that I was sent to the same establishment. The only person I knew on arrival at my new school was Roger Wood which may not have been a good thing. It soon became clear to me that Roger was not a happy camper in this environment and that his unhappiness was made worse by constant bullying. I have fond memories of the visits to the school of Roger’s grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Tom Auld, who would take the two of us out to lunch at the Dominion Hotel. The other sons were much younger, Norman and ---- whom I never knew.

[1] Robert White knew Roger quite well both from school in Forest Grove and later at boarding school in Victoria. I recall his grandparents, Thomas and Georgina Auld, coming to the school and taking the two of us out to lunch at the Dominion Hotel in downtown Victoria.