Why separate section with these fits?
Because that's what they are :) That's a collection of HAC fits that I am currently flying - more or less - that were made with cost of fit in mind. They are less safe on both DPS and Tank than fits in T4 section, but they still work.
Additional word of caution: I did tests of them with max or close to max skills. These fits aren't made with new pilots in mind at all. That's more of "My ships collection" than "That's what you should fly".
My attempt at good runner without Hydras. Will get tested one day, for now - treat it as theorycraft.
[Cerberus, All T5 runner]
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System
Domination Ballistic Control System
Domination Ballistic Control System
Domination Ballistic Control System
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher
Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
'Augmented' Hornet x3
Mid-grade Crystal Alpha
Mid-grade Crystal Beta
Mid-grade Crystal Gamma
Mid-grade Crystal Delta
Mid-grade Crystal Epsilon
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Systems Operation EO-604
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-705
Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-805
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-905
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1005
Standard Blue Pill Booster
Standard Crash Booster
Agency 'Pyrolancea' DB5 Dose II
Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x5000
Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile x5000
Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Nanite Repair Paste x100
General idea:
By liberal application of ISK I can get non-Kinetic DPS to be as good as my Kinetic DPS on Exotic runner
By using MG Crystals Clone I can get away with lower resists in different weathers, at least to a degree, and missing ADC
For Darks I still need to refit hardener to Web - that makes it a bit squishier, but still should be good
Way more expensive than I'd like, so maybe something will get downgraded. We will see.
With Purity of the Throne, otherwise it doesn't work
[Sacrilege, Camembert]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Ballistic Control System II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Ballistic Control System II
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
10MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Caldari Navy Vespa x10
Standard Crash Booster
Nova Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x3000
Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile x8000
Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile x3000
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile x3000
Raging Dark Filament x5
My thoughts:
Somewhere between Expensive Muninn and Turbo-cheap Muninn. Reasonable performance for good price
Crash is necessary, but you should already know that
I packed few sets of missiles, according to setup I figured out in the past - ask me on Discord which to use on which :)
I will fly it more, so I might put some extra stuff here as well
I did fly it more - it's awesome. You can mess it up, but it's chonky boi and won't die quickly :)
15 runs in. No issues, no close calls. About 15 minutes per run.
Another sub 1B T5 fit? What's happening!?!
[Sacrilege, Brie]
Centum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Reactive Armor Hardener
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Imperial Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
10MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Caldari Navy Vespa x10
Standard Exile Booster
Standard Crash Booster
Agency 'Hardshell' TB5 Dose II
Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Nova Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x3000
Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile x8000
Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile x3000
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile x3000
Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile x10000
Tested!
Good fit, I like running it
Will need to do more runs, but so far - I'm quite happy how it turned out
As usual, if you plan on running it for longer - Asklepians + some Hardwirings would help a lot
Stolen from De W Javqe, because it's looks good
[Ishtar, Javo Beverage Co Inc]
Assault Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Co-Processor II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Auto Targeting System I
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Republic Fleet Berserker x10
Berserker II x5
Hail S x6600
Nanite Repair Paste x200
Raging Gamma Filament x5
My thoughts:
It's fun! I copied the fit as is, and it doesn't need any tweaks :) I just changed drones to EX ones
No implants or drugs necessary, drones don't really die - you'll have fun
ADC was useful couple of times, but you could pilot better than me ;) It's nice to have it though.
Several runs in, seems good :) It was voted to be upgraded to T5s, so I did exactly that.
Slap some extra DPS, Blue Pill and mix some drones - and do T5s?
[Ishtar, Dirty Matcha]
Assault Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Co-Processor II
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Republic Fleet Berserker x5
Berserker II x5
Standard Blue Pill Booster
Agency 'Hardshell' TB5 Dose II
Hail S x4000
Barrage S x8000
Nanite Repair Paste x200
Kinda works?
Not many runs done. The ones that I did - was tight on time
I would really prefer T6 setup with Gist booster, but that's about 4B - not in line with my idea for cheap T5 runner ;)
Wasps for Ephialteses, they have low resists so penalty kinda doesn't apply
Tank is solid, although at some waves it might be tight - we will see
I fully expect it to die, afterwards it will get replaces
By Vagabond or (more likely) Cerberus :)
Took T6-capable fit, downgraded what I could for T5s, here I am.
[Ishtar, Ishtar fit]
Shadow Serpentis Assault Damage Control
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Dread Guristas Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
Pithum C-Type Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Republic Fleet Berserker x5
Berserker II x5
Standard Blue Pill Booster
Agency 'Hardshell' TB5 Dose II
Hail S x4000
Barrage S x8000
Nanite Repair Paste x200
Didn't test it at all, it's just a theorycraft for the future.
Why would I run Firestorm? Because I want to :P
[Deimos, Deimos fit]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Imperial Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Federation Navy Hammerhead x5
Standard Exile Booster
Void M x10000
Null M x10000
Oooof, it's something!
4 runs, it was "ok"
No range, no tracking - but ok DPS and tank
No issues with timer, but I'm a bit worried of Leshaks and unfavourable spawns
Will receive more testing, probably until I lose it :D
There are some potentially bad spawns:
Leshaks - because with Null I have only 20km range, so they will run away
Tracking Disruption + Webs in large amounts. I',m pretty confident that webbers will get close, but still - it will suck.
Nooo....
[Deimos, Scylla's Dad]
Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Reactive Armor Hardener
Imperial Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane
Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
'Augmented' Vespa x5
Standard Exile Booster
Standard Drop Booster
Agency 'Pyrolancea' DB5 Dose II
Null M x10000
Void M x10000
Will get tested. OR lost.
That's a fit I stole tactically acquires from Caldari Joans - all credit goes to them.
[Muninn, T4 Dark 300M Armor Fit]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Medium Armor Repairer II
True Sansha Multispectrum Coating
Centum C-Type Explosive Energized Membrane
10MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Cap Battery II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Caldari Navy Hornet x5
Nova Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x2000
Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile x2000
Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile x4000
Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile x6000
Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile x2000
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile x2000
Nanite Repair Paste x50
Standard Crash Booster x5
Raging Dark Filament x5
"I don't really trust that fit" - Chris
"Wow, this thing has no tank" - Amfion
Thoughts, after 5 rounds of runs:
This fit requires good skills (SP-wise) and good skills (Piloting and Abyss knewledge) to be viable.
If you do not have perfect missile skills - you will have issues with timer due to low DPS.
If you don't know the Abyss, you will struggle in general, and even small mistakes could lead to failure.
Your reloads have to be on-point. In tight runs it will make a difference between successfull run and failure due to timer. Know your enemy weaknesses.
Enemy prioritization and good strategy are a must. Small things like re-cycling RAH when needed or overheating webs for extra range will add up - and since safety buffer is super small, it matters.
No-downsides Crash is absolutely necessary. If you don't have 20 minutes left - dock and reroll, drugs are cheaper than ships.
We made tests with 4 different pilots:
Perfect in-game skills, Low Abyss experience: Died in first room.
Medium skills, Low-Medium experience: Died after a round of runs, probably could be saved by better piloting. Also observed low DPS.
Medium skills, Decent experience: Survived, but fought with timer and struggled a bit
Perfect skills, Good Abyss experience: No major issues. Still spicy, and requires attention - but manageable.
It does make a nice T3 runner though, if your skills aren't maxxed - and it's even cheaper than Povertila :D