Hello Chess Friends,
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Ultimate League - 11.10.2023:Here is another new NNUE vs NON-NNUE test!And it has been organized just out of curiosity...)
To be more clear,Cfish 030920 NON-NNUE is played via Everest 300923 book too,Where all Everest NON-NN's opponents used Raunfish SC engine,So under current test conditions, we see about 80 Elo difference..Frankly not so bad...Btw, if we are going to compare with the olderEverest NON-NNUE (in BNX tour): the Elo difference is about 63
Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws 1 Everest 300923 3776 7 7 550 53% 3755 87% 2 Pimienta 3766 6 7 600 53% 3751 91% 3 CachoSCCT opt 3766 6 7 600 53% 3751 88% 4 ShadRach 3763 7 7 600 52% 3751 87% 5 ORIONPAX3 3762 7 7 600 52% 3751 87% 6 OPTIMUS 4 3756 7 7 600 51% 3752 91% 7 SENTINEL 2 3756 7 7 600 51% 3752 93% 8 Zaytsev 3755 7 7 600 51% 3752 92% 9 DON Hercules 2 3750 7 7 600 50% 3752 91% 10 LesChats 071023 3750 7 7 600 50% 3752 91% 11 Red Dragon 3746 7 7 600 49% 3753 88% 12 OlisFish 260923 3739 7 6 600 48% 3753 90% 13 Everest NON-NN 3695 5 5 550 36% 3755 63%
GAMES (database consists only Everest NON-NNUE gauntlet games) Note: Everest NON-NN = Everest 300923 by Cfish 030920 NON-NNUE
Meanwhile, it is a shocking news is that,After checking more closely... I've noticed also thatEverest NON-NN book is managed to perform better:
1 Everest NON-NN +12/-8/=30 54.00% 27.0/502 OlisFish 260923 +8/-12/=30 46.00% 23.0/50
What I can say more over these important issues,A superior strong book is something like that,May win even via disadvantage test conditions!
Second League - 09.10.2023:Via current update just only 1 opening books is entered and qualified...nice!Note that Second League is paused.. even there is a possibility to be ended...Reason, I need to take rest, you know.. not so easy to organize serious andSeries of tours and sometimes I wonder with how many testers I can compete?)
Super League - 09.10.2023:Well, via latest entries..now all books contain 540 games (per player)So, the 1st Champions are already clear..note also that via Bayeselo,Both Public (OPTIMUS 4 and OlisFish 260923) ranked with same Elo,But after checking closely (via SCID), 0.5 point in favor for OPTIMUSOn other hand, I am impressed also by all qualified players, becauseMany of them can be considered as old - dated, so no much chancesTo be Winners...but no doubt that they are fighting as real Gladiators!So nothing strange with current rankings..Btw, very soon Ultimate tourWill be started (via Top 11 books by Raubfish SC engine), Good Luck!
2nd League -09.10.2023):Via latest update, 8 books participated, where mostly are qualified...not bad!
Super League - 09.10.2023:DON DON DON...again managed as Number One..really just amazing!Yes in same time that means, The Father (Vasid Chouhan) proves againDON used openings are too dangerous, especially vs new trend ones!!Btw, this is also true that if I course a little bit over.. then how happy I'mSure, the first Champion is still not so clear, Red Dragon, SENTINEL etcAre serious candidates to be next Number One, in the end, time will tell..Note also that any Book Leader (after 500 games) will be titled Champ!And Top 10 (with highest points) will be qualified into planning Ultimate..
2nd League - 09.10.2023:Another new update, half qualified, half could not. again and again HubbleWas not so lucky...really many times Mr. Mehmet's book is quite close..but...On other hand, the good news is that Mr. Angel Morano plus Mr. HurnavichNew books qualified..note that only updated CachoSCCT opt will be played,I mean the older CachoSCCT will be replaced with the new updated versionAnd as we see.. when the books are super strong...success is no accident!Btw, Guzelkiz even very old-dated (like DON-B) is managed..but no surprise,Since exactly the same Guzelkiz is the Champion of B/N VII ChampionshipAnd the other qualified ORIONPAX2 belongs to Mr. Roger ConstantinescoNote also that I've managed to start Super League as well...good luck to all!
2nd League - 08.10.2023:1st of all, my congratulations to all qualified authors books..and unfortunately,Some of the opening books were not so lucky..or some are not tuned so wellAnd after checking the latest results of current Second League..it's clear that,Many successful books could not qualify...it seems the old Champs lines areNot soft touch and still not dead..Btw, a few more words over DON Hercules:It's based/tuned vs newer trend openings so against older trend ones.suffer!But via importing DON's other played games...DON Hercules 2 is managed..Btw, interesting, the very old-dated DON-B book is managed to qualify..nice!Yes..under these cond. not easy...and here strongest ones say the last word!About the Leading books: SENTINEL, LesChats, OPTIMUS, CachoSCCT etc.They proved to be so strong...as NNUE and NON-NNUE, just superb score!Sure we are just in beginning..let's see what will be the next entry results ?)
2nd League - 08.10.2023:A new, but very hard championship started...and latest played results soon...This time tour's main target will be to check pure/real opening book strength!You may know, as NNUE, many of the critical weak lines may perform better,But when NON-NNUE: then situation is totally different...as usual 'best' wins..The current tours will be based on 3 Leagues: Second, Super and Ultimate!Second and Super Leagues will be played by Cfish 030820 ( NON-NNUE)Where Ultimate tour will be played by Raubfish X48c3 SC (NNUE enabled) Both mentioned tourneys will be in qualification mode e.g 2nd League willConsist 3 constant Champs books, which are tuned to prefer only WinnersOpening lines (in SCCT tours, mainly 2020, 2021 and some of 2022 year..) In short, my created Champs books are based on old-dated trend openings..Sure no free time to count all, but these Winners are mainly Angel Morano,Vasid Chouhan, Cevdet Sarı etc. ok that's all for now more info very soon!Btw, any known author interested can submit a bin book at any time Contact
Meanwhile, here are new strength, candidate tests..Played mainly for the current book tournaments...
As engines used, which are mainly small in size!Due to it is too complicated and meaningless if weUsing such as 40 MB-100 MB for each book player!Just imagine...let's say 100 players x 50 MB = 5 GBWhere via Cfish eng: 100 players x 200 KB = 20 MB
And as usual, once more we noticed that,Cfish 030820 is still the KING..in case of NON-NNUE!Not only as strongest, but even not so Drawish as wellWhat does it mean in reality ? a lot... !) if not so clear,This CF version is already more than 3 years old...that's Why as usual I say, not always newer/bigger are better..!
Forget everything..as alternative,I tested many other SF-based ones, but I cancelled their test..As reason...minus plus 5%-10% higher draws..very strange!On other hand, I can understand if they are stronger...e.g There are such SF NON-NNUE ones, which produce closeTo draw ratio as Raubfish SC NNUE, the main differenceRaubbfish SC is about 150-200 Elo stronger than them!!
Btw, via current tittle, Cfish 030820 is already 8-times Champ !!Frankly a similar record is never seen before...just unbelievable!For anyone missed, the previous NON-NNUE tourney: Results
Ok...too many comments ) here is the latest new strength ranking:
Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws 1 Cfish 030820 Def 3581 10 10 1000 52% 3569 77% 2 SlowChess 2.9 NNUE 3579 10 10 1058 52% 3567 74% 3 Stockfish XIr4 Def 3578 10 10 1100 52% 3567 78% 4 Cfish 030820 C40 3577 8 8 1756 52% 3562 74% 5 Brainfish 240720 Def 3570 8 8 1758 51% 3562 77% 6 Stockfish XIr4 C40 3567 8 8 1656 50% 3563 75% 7 Cfish11 x86_x64 C40 3566 8 8 1600 50% 3564 75% 8 Koivisto 7.14 NNUE 3565 9 9 1256 50% 3567 69% 9 CF-EXT 291120 Def 3565 9 9 1358 50% 3566 75% 10 Clover 4 NNUE 3564 10 10 1056 50% 3567 71% 11 Zeus 9.4 C40 3563 8 8 1656 50% 3563 73% 12 Zeus 9.4 Def 3561 13 13 600 49% 3568 81% 13 Eman 5.62 Def 3556 12 12 700 49% 3564 80% 14 CiChess 170720 C40 3554 12 12 700 49% 3564 78% 15 SlowChess 2.8 NNUE 3554 13 13 600 48% 3568 74% 16 CF-EXT 291120 C40 3553 12 12 700 48% 3565 74% 17 Cfish11 x86_x64 Def 3551 15 15 454 47% 3569 77% 18 Arasan 24 NNUE 3547 12 12 700 47% 3571 72% 19 Koivisto 241122 NNUE 3536 13 13 600 46% 3568 67%
GAMES
Conditions:2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 2m+1s, 128mb Hash, 4-MEN