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Jenya: Sorry my English is bad.
Jenya: I am from Israel.
Jenya: I play CS 1.6 and source.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm so sorry for you.
Jenya: Yeah.
Jenya: I wish I could leave that.
Jenya: But I am an Israeli champion.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I probably couldn't be paid to play that game.
Jenya: So it’s a bit hard.
Jenya: I play 6 years.
Jenya: And I got left 4 dead.
Jenya: And I had one month holiday.
Jenya: I was under bombs so I didn’t play CS.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Ah so your actually in Israel?
Jenya: Yes.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Do you hate Pakistanis?
Jenya: Why people say that the Arabs are poor.
Jenya: No I hate Arabs.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Arabs as in Saudi Arabia?
Jenya: No as Gaza.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Oops.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I meant Palestinians.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Not Pakistanis.
Jenya: Yes.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I said the wrong thing.
Jenya: People say that the Arabs are poor people.
Arm4g3dd0nX: There was a interview with one of your officials, probably an ambassador, I forget who.
Arm4g3dd0nX: And he was talking about how the Palestinians were putting millions of Israelis in risk.
Arm4g3dd0nX: With the rockets being fired.
Jenya: Yes I am under bombs for 8 years, 8 ***ING YEARS!!!!
Jenya: People live in fear.
Arm4g3dd0nX: They have been firing rockets during the cease fire?
Jenya: Yes there was one rocket today.
Arm4g3dd0nX: No.
Arm4g3dd0nX: The cease fire ended a month ago or so.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Before a month ago, were they firing rockets?
Jenya: No one week.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Ok one week ago.
Jenya: 3 rockets.
Jenya: From the beginning.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I was told that the rockets didn’t get fired until the cease fire was over.
Jenya: No 2 in the cease fire and 1 more after it ended.
Jenya: *shows picture* that was today.
Jenya: In 50.
Arm4g3dd0nX: *looks at picture* that's a weird looking rocket.
Jenya: That's called "Grad" it’s a rocket that gets till 40 km and its 10 kg of explosives.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Ok.
Jenya: One of those rockets got 50 meters from my house.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm trying to figure out the death tolls between the two... countries?
Arm4g3dd0nX: Maybe province is a better term.
Jenya: My YouTube nick is needforpoop.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It looks as though 30-40 Israelis have died from 1. Rockets and 2. Fighting in Gaza.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I could be wrong.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It's hard to come up with that number.
Jenya: Something like 20 Israeli people died...
Jenya: And something like 2000 Arabs but those Arabs mostly are Hamas people.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Ok.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Figure I was getting on Gaza is 1100.
Jenya: Its Hamas lies.
Arm4g3dd0nX: This is from US media.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Sorry I'm asking so many questions.
Jenya: NP.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I’ve never talked to someone so directly related. :)
Arm4g3dd0nX: You have no idea how hard it is to get trustworthy information here in the US.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Heck.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It might be better information where you are (for global things).
Jenya: I see you got Barack H Obama.
Jenya: He will kill us.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Barack will kill you?
Jenya: Yes can’t you see is helping the Arabs.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Helping the Arabs? Wow. If anything he's helping the Israelis too much.
Arm4g3dd0nX: You realize you and I are allies right?
Jenya: He is like every one want to talk with a terror.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Yeah.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I would want to talk to terrorists too.
Arm4g3dd0nX: No harm can come from talking.
Arm4g3dd0nX: unless you’re trying to brainwash people. ^_^
Jenya: YOU CANT TALK WITH THE TERROR THE TERROR NEED TO BE DESTROYED!
Arm4g3dd0nX: Wow.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I so don't believe that.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I tend to think terrorism is resorted to when no one will listen.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's just my opinion.
Arm4g3dd0nX: You're free to think otherwise.
Jenya: If Hamas will be destroyed we will have peace at last.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well.
Arm4g3dd0nX: We tried to do that in Iraq.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That worked out horribly.
Arm4g3dd0nX: And we had a large portion of our armed forces in attempt to succeed.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Still do.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I don't know what the error is.
Jenya: They want peace for 1.5 years...
Jenya: And already the IDF (Israeli Defense Force) found Katusha rockets going to Gaza.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I guessed that.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Perhaps they planned on not using the rockets if a peace was developed. *shrug*
Arm4g3dd0nX: I might think quite differently if I were in your shoes. ^_^
Jenya: After 1.5 years will get bombed again that's ****ing wrong.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well I guess you would at least get 1.5 years of peace.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Isn't that worth something?
Jenya: That isn't helping me.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm really finding this conversation interesting, is it ok if I post our discussion on my webpage?
Jenya: No problem it’s just that people think that the Arabs are poor people...
Jenya: But they are not I live in fear for 8 years in total of more than 10000 rockets on Israel.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's a lot of rockets; I guess most of them are wild misses?
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's 500 rockets fired per kill.
Jenya: Yes in the first day of bombing it was 8 years ago they shot 200 rockets and one men was killed.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It’s funny.
Arm4g3dd0nX: In US news, no rockets were fired until the cease fire was over.
Arm4g3dd0nX: At least the US news I’ve heard so far.
Arm4g3dd0nX: So are you of Jewish faith?
Jenya: *shows picture* look the first boat was full of rockets.
Jenya: The red boat.
Jenya: I live in Israel but I am Rushen.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Russian?
Jenya: Yea.
Arm4g3dd0nX: What religion are you?
Jenya: Rushen.
Jenya: I live in Israel.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Russian is a religion?
Jenya: Because my dad is Jewish.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Ok.
Arm4g3dd0nX: But I mean what is your faith.
Jenya: In god.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Do you believe Muslim is an evil religion?
Jenya: The Muslim is not an evil religion but the Arab schools teach the kids that they need to kill all Jewish people.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Yeah I’ve heard about some of that.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Its sad how there's no real reason why you two should be fighting.
Arm4g3dd0nX: You fight each other because you hate each other and you hate each other because you fight each other.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's sort of true about all wars.
Jenya: No we don’t hate them I got Arab friends the terror organizations hate us...
Jenya: And that's why we fight them and there are no war without victims so they hate us.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Wow that sounds like a slightly different sentiment than I heard in the beginning.
Arm4g3dd0nX: So you basically want to end the Hamas regime...
Arm4g3dd0nX: And you wouldn’t mind seeing that done with as little bloodshed as possible, if that was possible.
Jenya: When the Fatah ruled Gaza it was good we worked with them they were our friends...
Jenya: And now when the Hamas rules we hate them only because of the terror Hamas.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's very interesting.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It’s nice to know there's the real potential that there’s an end in sight.
Jenya: We got in the 10th elections and if the Rushen one will win the terror will be GONE!!!
Arm4g3dd0nX: Hopefully.
Arm4g3dd0nX: By the tenth.
Arm4g3dd0nX: You mean in 11 days?
Jenya: Yes.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well I really hope that that does end up occurring and settling down.
Arm4g3dd0nX: God knows we don't need all the fighting.
Arm4g3dd0nX: In the eyes of the US citizen, we hear about constant warring in the Middle East and Africa.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Internal warring.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I mean were not much better, America is pretty war mongering. ^_^
Arm4g3dd0nX: It’s just we hear about all the fighting and most of us really don't know why there is fighting.
Jenya: The Israeli president said "If another bomb will hit Israel in the time of the peace Gaza will be DESTROYED!!!!!!"
Arm4g3dd0nX: That sounds like a lot of civilian casualties.
Jenya: 1.5 million will be killed.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Heck, if an angry Israeli faked a Palestinian bomb.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That would be a pretty grave result.
Jenya: I am sorry but we got all rights to defend our residents.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I don’t know if the UN and US will shed a blind eye on it though.
Arm4g3dd0nX: 1.5 million deaths to civilians.
Arm4g3dd0nX: We might come in and stop it.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I guess the point is.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Don’t let the Palestinians know that.
Jenya: You can’t stop that because...
Arm4g3dd0nX: I hope you’re not taking offense to this.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Just trying to be honest.
Jenya: Condoleezza Rice or something like that singed with our president that America will not be in it.
Jenya: Or something like that.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Oh.
Jenya: Yea.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well.
Jenya: With Tzipi Livni.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That wouldn't stop the UN.
Arm4g3dd0nX: And might not even stop the US.
Jenya: In one night Gaza will be destroyed.
Jenya: Its only 60 km.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I don’t know how the document Condoleezza Rice made was made.
Arm4g3dd0nX: War crimes are "violations of the laws or customs of war"; including but not limited to "murder, ..."
Arm4g3dd0nX: "the ill-treatment or deportation of civilian residents of an occupied territory to slave labor camps."
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm guessing Israel will be viewed as having committed a war crime.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I guess all I'm saying is.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I REALLY hope it doesn't come down to that.
Jenya: Me too because I hate seeing people die and 1.5 millions is a lot.
Arm4g3dd0nX: If it's imminent I would probably strongly recommend you move out of Israel. ^_^
Jenya: When it all will start ill move to Russia till it’s over.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Good plan.
Arm4g3dd0nX: In a strictly objective viewpoint.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm really curious what the US / UN would do if Israel committed a war crime.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Would it put Israel under UN martial law?
Arm4g3dd0nX: Would it imprison all the leaders of Israel?
Arm4g3dd0nX: I honestly don’t know.
Jenya: The Turces said they will not sue us.
Arm4g3dd0nX: People from Turkey?
Jenya: No the president.
Arm4g3dd0nX: President of...
Arm4g3dd0nX: America?
Jenya: Of Turcia.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Maybe you're referring to what we call Turkey.
Jenya: Yea.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Is Turkey even powerful enough to do anything about Israel?
Arm4g3dd0nX: If they wanted.
Jenya: Yes they got people in the.
Jenya: Hhhmm.
Jenya: The place with the Japanese in lead.
Arm4g3dd0nX: You’re not talking United Nations are you?
Jenya: I don’t know, Wait.
Jenya: Ban Ki-moon as a lead.
Arm4g3dd0nX: "Ban Ki-moon takes over as UN head."
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's South Korea though.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Not Japan.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Well even Israel has members in the UN.
Arm4g3dd0nX: 192 countries do.
Jenya: Yes but no one listens to them.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Haha.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I guess they wouldn’t.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm not sure turkey's vote would be very loud either with 192 countries in the UN.
Arm4g3dd0nX: What Israel is basically doing, if they decide to follow through with destroying the Gaza Strip...
Arm4g3dd0nX: Is asking the UN to permit this specific war crime.
Jenya: I don’t know no one got sued for now.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It wouldn't be done financially.
Arm4g3dd0nX: People would simply be removed from office forcibly.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Or perhaps even killed.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Then again.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I really don’t know how it all works.
Jenya: *shows video* this is a clip of the Arabs shooting at us.
Jenya: No one got removed.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm saying it wouldn’t happen until the destruction of the Gaza strip looked imminent.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Or had happened.
Jenya: I am in the IAF (Israeli Air Force) and I don’t see someone removed.
Arm4g3dd0nX: The Hamas might be some terrible people.
Arm4g3dd0nX: But I really don't think the UN is going to let Israel get away with a war crime.
Jenya: I am telling you no one got sued.
Arm4g3dd0nX: And I'm saying.
Arm4g3dd0nX: It won’t happen yet.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I have a question.
Jenya: Shoot.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Would you prefer or want the UN to go into Israel to try to remove Hamas?
Jenya: I would like that the UN would let us remove the Hamas.
Jenya: We don’t need help we need time.
Jenya: And support.
Arm4g3dd0nX: If the Hamas are as bad as you say, then I'm sure the UN would be thrilled to aid Israel in its extrication...
Arm4g3dd0nX: As long as it didn't result in too much collateral damage (civilian death).
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm guessing they are still in "decision mode" about the Hamas.
Jenya: That is the problem!!!
Jenya: 60km of Gaza.
Jenya: One rocket and you kill 20 people.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Ah I see.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Would ground operatives do a better job of locating and terminating key locations?
Jenya: Ground did worst job.
Jenya: My friend was in Gaza.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm not talking ground armed forces.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm talking operatives that will witness and call in locations to strike.
Jenya: They send little kids with ak47 to fight the Israelis.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Because really.
Arm4g3dd0nX: You only have to kill the leaders of Hamas.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I could be totally wrong there...
Jenya: We can’t he is too far in side ground.
Jenya: If we throw a rocket that can get him we would kill lots of people too.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I personally would love the idea of a surgical strike that kills 30-40 key people, and avoid the bloodshed of thousands.
Arm4g3dd0nX: What's funny is I know what would be the best weapon for this if we ever developed it.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Microwave satellites.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's a major tangent though.
Jenya: Or Kaset bombs XD.
Jenya: Israeli army got a bomb that destroys any thing in 35 km 2 of those bombs and Gaza is gone.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's a large bomb.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I know this is the age old argument.
Arm4g3dd0nX: But.
Arm4g3dd0nX: If you used those bombs.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Would you be that much better than the Hamas?
Jenya: No but the Hamas has got to stop.
Arm4g3dd0nX: True.
Jenya: In all cost.
Arm4g3dd0nX: But 20 deaths and 8 years of fear = 1.5 million dead?
Arm4g3dd0nX: Still doesn't seem fair.
Jenya: Life isn't fair.
Jenya: They will bring that on them self.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I don't know about that.
Arm4g3dd0nX: That sounds like primarily the decision of the Israelis.
Arm4g3dd0nX: Once again...
Arm4g3dd0nX: That's just my viewpoint.
Arm4g3dd0nX: I'm sure there are a vast amount of Americans that would totally agree with you.
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