Marksman

Base Changes

No Stat Changes

Primary Changes

Sniper Rifle Changes (Applies to all Sniper Rifles)

Range limitations alterred
- Rather than having a damage penalty, headshots done outside of the rifle's "effective range" do minicrits, minicrit headshots do anywhere between 61 to 182 damage.
- Range limit for "close range" removed
- Range penalties do not apply in Vs. Bosses.
Headshot delay reduced to 0.2s (identical to TF2)
Scope now has 25% less zoom.
Reserve ammo is now 24.
- Nitpicky change but with 1/25 ammo you have 26 bullets total. Absolutely outrageous.
The rifle will make a distinct "DING!" if the headshot delay has passed.
All of the hidden stats on the Stock Sniper Rifle have been listed on the weapon's stat card, reads something like this:

10% damage penalty vs. players if not fully charged

Headshots do minicrits over 120 studs

Headshots have a slight delay after scoping

(For the sake of not making every stat card a wall of red text, weapons will have "Stock's downsides apply" listed as a single downside.)

Reasoning/Notes

I think the way the Marksman nerfs were done in TC2 are incredibly poorly thought out and mostly were done in ways that contradict one another: (such as an increased quickscope delay to prevent quickscoping, and a laser pointer to prevent hard-scoping?? AND a damage penalty to punish the long range class for fighting at... long range??? Amazing )

I wanted to kind of take the current interpretation of Marksman and improve on the foundational elements of his design without making Marksman feeling clunky. As well as trying to make changes that doesnt make people who avidly play Marksman mad.

Scope Redesign

A slight redesign the Scope that makes it marginally easier to get a grasp for what distance you're firing at.

For starters, the stud counter is moved directly to the middle, so you can look at both your charge meter and your studs counter much easier without having to quickly dart between your target, your stud counter and your charge amount.

Distance Counter

Now looking at the Distance Counter is a lot more simplified, if you are within the effective range of your Sniper Rifle (between 75-200 studs), the number may show up as green. If you are outside of the effective range (<40, or >120) then it will show up as red. This will make figuring out whether or not your Sniper Rifle will be doing max damage much easier.

Reasoning/Notes

You can call the Huntsman the lucksman in this game too, but for a completely seperate reason than its TF2 counterpart. The Huntsman in this game legitimately is so garbage that the Classic, Efficient Elim. and the Poacher's Pride literally exist for no reason but to do the same thing this thing was supposed to do but without having garbage projecitle hitbox.

Compound Crusader

(Formerly the Huntsman)

Projectile cannot be deflected

Arrows can be charged and fired while falling.

-50% less primary ammo on wearer

Arrows start losing their accuracy if the

bow is drawn for more than 4 seconds

A bow that shoots arrow projectiles that travels faster and deals more damage the longer you hold down the primary fire.

Original Stats

The longer you aim, the more damage

and faster the arrows travels

Projectile cannot be deflected

Arrows start losing their accuracy if the

bow is drawn for more than 2 seconds

While aiming: -33% move speed

Shoots arrows instead of bullets

Changes:

Takes 2 more for aim to start getting shaky.

Unlisted: Reload animation sped up 1.66x

Entire stat card rewritten

Arrow hitbox functionality alterred to be more like Team Fortress 2, where upon hitting the character's bounding box (image below), the arrow teleports to the nearest limb.

(Credits to anonymous TC2 sourcecode holders for showing me how the hitboxes look, no it's not Krosh.)

Yes, that tiny box on Arsonist's head is the ENTIRE bullet/huntsman head hitbox. That's why its so hard to hit heads with this stupid bow.

Reasoning/Notes

Inspired by Fishstick's rebalance of the Classic. Instead of waddling on direct upgrade territory like how it used to, now it requires you to have at least half charge to get a crit headshot.

Classic

Charge and fire shots independent

of zoom

-12% damage on body shot

Headshots deal minicrits if charge is under 50%

Stock's penalties apply

Original Stats

Charge and fire shots independent

of zoom

-12% damage penalty

Changes:

Damage penalties apply only to bodyshots.

Fires Tracer Rounds

Headshots deal minicrits under 50% charge

Visual: Uses the TC1 model.

Given a new laser pointer!

Reasoning/Notes

Okay, a damage penalty was ENOUGH of a stat. We don't need the damage to start at zero. Instead it starts at 20 for a minimum of 60 damage per headshot instead

Zoom reduction is also reduced to avoid being too problematic once stacked with the existing penalty

Efficient Eliminator

+25% charge rate

No move speed penalty while aiming

Lose scope on full charge

25% zoom reduction

-20% damage penalty

Damage starts at 20 while charging

Stock's penalties apply

Original Stats

+25% charge rate

No move speed penalty while aiming

Lose scope on full charge

50% zoom reduction

-20% damage penalty

Damage starts at zero while charging

Changes:

Range-based damage penalties do not apply

Damage no longer starts at zero, starts at 25 instead

Zoom reduction reduced a bit to account for stock

Visual: Given a new laser pointer!

Reasoning/Notes

QOL. You can deal a nice 175 with two headshots in a row. I'd imagine it'd be given some internal damage bonus to ensure the kill on Annihilators and Arsonists.

Poacher's Pride

Changes:

Unlisted: Second consecutive headshot deals minicrits and lacks spread.

Unlisted: Minicrit headshots have a 2% damage bonus)

Reasoning/Notes

Decided to play into this item's "stealth" role a bit further. The Urban Upriser in current TC2 is a weapon that serves literally no purpose beyond having a frankly very badass model and sound, and I believe this chagne should let it be more on par with stock and any of the Marksman's better unlocks.

Urban Upriser

Gain Focus on kills and assists

Press 'Reload' to activate focus

Laser displays at 50% transparency

-12% damage on body shot

In Focus: 35% faster charge, hides the laser fully, and fires faint tracer rounds. Can be activated and cancelled at any time.

Stock's penalties apply

Heads will roll.

Original Stats

Gain Focus on damage

Press 'Reload' to activate focus

In Focus: 25% faster charge and no unscoping

-12% damage penalty

Heads will roll.

Changes:

Damage penalty replaced with TF2-styled bodyshot damage penalty

Laser displays at 50% transparency

Focus can be enabled at any time and cancelled by switching off the weapon

(Unlisted: Getting a kill or assist while in focus will increase the duration of focus)

Damage penalty while under effects of focus.

Focus is gained on kill and not damage

Fires Tracer Rounds while in focus

Reasoning/Notes

My best attempt at making this weapon have any semblance of usage other than "Being the weapon you pull out when there's a really good Mechanic on RED". Now has more of a crowd control emphasis

Trail-Blazer

(Formerly the Model IV)

Shots penetrate players

Charge above 50% makes the first person in a collateral blow up on successful headshot kill.

+50% damage vs buildings

Laser displays at 50% transparency

Cannot fire unless zoomed

Fires tracer rounds

-15% charge rate

Stock's penalties apply

Original Stats

Shots penetrate players

+34% damage vs buildings

Cannot fire unless zoomed

Fires tracer rounds

-15% charge rate

Changes:

Increased building damage to +50%
Charged shots above 50% makes the first victim you hit in a collateral explode to deal about 45 damage at max.
Laser displays at 50% transparency.

Visual: Given a new laser pointer!

Reasoning/Notes

I don't play VSB much anymore but i heard this thing's really OP. Given that Lemonade grants full crits in the gamemode.

Sour Shots

Changes:

Banned from Vs Bosses.

Secondary Changes

MAC-10 Changes (Applies to all SMGs)

Increased Base Damage to 8.
- Increased Max Rampup to 12, Increased Max Falloff to 4.

Reasoning/Notes

For some reason, the SMG in TC2 is statistically not the same as TF2's SMG. For the sake of consistency, it's been tweaked to be identical (In regards to damage, the cipsize is quite nice)

Reasoning/Notes

To ensure that the lemoblade combo isn't as ridiculously OP. Other than that all's good.

Suppressed Solution

Changes:

Increased damage requirement to 150

Reasoning/Notes

I personally have a gripe with how anemic the 50-AE feels in usage. The amount of skill required to consistently hit headshots and the rather measly amount you do with one single headshot personally irritates me.

This change makes it so that bodyshots do anywhere between 20-40 damage as opposed to 17-34, and headshots deal 54 damage instead of 45

Action Express

(Formerly the 50-AE)

(Compared to Revolver:)

Mini-crits on headshot

30% more accurate

No Damage Rampup

10% slower firing speed

Damage rampup only applies to headshots

Original Stats

(Compared to Revolver:)

Mini-crits on headshot

30% more accurate

-15% damage penalty

20% slower firing speed

(Unlisted: No damage rampup)

Changes:

Damage penalty removed

Increased Firerate

Damage rampup is now listed on stat card

Reasoning/Notes

Literally the stupidest weapon ever. Arsonist only has two weapons (and maybe 2 GOOSE concept weapons) that semi-adequately counter Marksman, so to make the weapon the catch-all counter to this class that isn't even that big of a counter to Marksman in the big picture seems like dumb decision.

I have decided to turn this weapon into a general anti-debuff for the Marksman that works as the "inverse" to the Razorback.

Turtle Rock

+25 max health on wearer

35% less debuff duration on wearer

-25% slower reload and charge-up time on primaries

Protects the user against one boss attack and can be recharged by picking up an ammo box.

+14% move speed after being hit by a boss.

Original Stats

+25% fire damage resistance on wearer

Immune to the effects of afterburn

+10 max health on wearer

Changes:

Increased max health bonus

Added lower debuff duration

Removed the fire & afterburn resistance.

-25% slower reload and charge-up time on primaries

Ported over the protection mechanic over from the Razorback.

Reasoning/Notes

If a weapon is designed specifically to say "screw you" to one specific class rather than a general "thing", then it is not a very well-designed weapon.

Reworked to go fully in towards the mobility angle by punishing hardscoping and allowing you to reload your rifle faster. Could be a good pair with the Poacher's Pride, Huntsman, E.E or Classic

Tactician's Bandolier

(Formerly the Razorback)

+7% faster move speed on wearer

20% faster reload on primaries

20% reduction in movement penalty while charging

Prolonged scoping in causes your aim to sway
-100% maximum overheal on wearer

Original Stats

When shield is active:

Blocks a single backstab attempt

+7% faster move speed on wearer

20% reduction in movement penalty while charging

-100% maximum overheal on wearer

Regenerates after 30 seconds

Changes:

20% faster reload on primaries

Scoping in will cause your aim to sway after 2 seconds, MW3-style
(For huntsman users this means your screen will start swaying after 4 seconds of charging)

No longer blocks backstabs.

(Unlisted: Made it so that the 20% scope movement reduction doesn't apply to the Efficient Eliminator, allowing you to go ridiculously fast, according to one wiki user)

No longer protects against one boss attack

Melee Changes

Reasoning/Notes

Model poopy ugly stinkey.

Inspired by another Fishstickonastick buff.

Bushcutter's Blade

On Hit: Bleed for 5 seconds

+20% faster firing speed

Damage pierces resistances

-20% damage vs players

Original Stats

On Hit: Bleed for 5 seconds

+15% faster firing speed

-35% damage vs players

Changes:

Boosted firing speed Marginally

Damage pierces damage resistances

Damage penalty reduced

Visual: Uses the old Lemoblade model.

Reasoning/Notes

The Mischevious Machete's slower deploy speed is a stat that makes it way too hard to use for its own upside to come into effective play.

This makes it somewhat similar to the Equalizer,

Mischevious Machete

Damage increases as the user becomes injured

-25% damage penalty

20% slower firing speed.

Original Stats

Damage increases as the user becomes injured

-25% damage penalty

30% slower deploy speed. (Unlisted)

Changes:

Replaced slower deploy speed with a swing rate nerf.

Reasoning/Notes

It already has a damage penalty, that's enough for this thing.

Damage penalty reduced, so its crit damage can be 156 (enough to kill at least kill a Doctor)

Change inspired by Conventional's buff in his blog.

Lemoblade

Changes:

Reduced damage vulnerability to 15%

Reduced damage penalty to -20%

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