Is Sketchup Okay For 'Hidden Line' tech drawings?
Old forum thread showing some different ways of depicting 'hidden line' drawing style inside SketchUp.
abrogard
10/6/08
Thanks to the help of these Groups I'm making progress in Sketchup with my desire, which is to make 'engineering' or 'tech' drawings of the woodwork I design.
A thought has occurred to me: I'm going to want to show 'hidden lines' - i.e. the dotted lines we use on tech drawings to show where, perhaps, a groove has been cut out or a mortise in a piece of wood.
Is it going to be okay for this?
regards,
ab
TaffGoch
10/6/08
abrogard,
I can't see how SketchUp could be manipulated to produce dashed hidden lines. I suspect that Photoshop modification of a SketchUp export might be one way to do this. You can use the 'wireframe' and 'hidden line' face-style modes to produce two 2D graphic exports. Layer these in Photoshop. Edit the hidden-line layer to produce dashed lines. Sounds like a lot of work...
Might you be able to use an 'X-ray' view, instead:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/weekender410/f916efa4.jpg
Image from the "Design.Click.Build." woodworking blog:
http://blogs.taunton.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=fw-designforum
Regards,
Taff
TaffGoch
10/6/08
abrogard,
I've used the Photoshop layer method to depict hidden lines, as shown below. (I still can't conceive how to 'easily' dash the lines.)
Taff
abrogard
10/7/08
Thanks a lot, Taff, you're a great help. Not the first time you've helped me, I know.
What you've shown here will be good enough for what I want. I'll proceed with Sketchup rather than try some other computer drafting prog.
:)
POSH Gmbh
10/78/08
import to ViaCAD 3D (U$ 99) and do the engineering stuff incl. the drawings of 2D design derivatives there:
hth,
Norbert
LPdesign
10/7/08
> import to ViaCAD 3D (U$ 99) and do the engineering stuff incl. the
> drawings of 2D design derivatives there:
>
How about a script for US $20 that actually lets you display dashed lines in SU!
http://www.smustard.com/script/DashedLines
I always promote this site when I can. They have a great selection of both pay and free ruby scripts.
-LP
catamountain
10/7/08
You can also draw the line and soften or hide them. In normal view, they will not show. In HIdden Geometry mode you will see them.
To hide a line use Erase+Shift. To soften a line use Erase+Ctrl (PC).
Steve Monrad
10/7/08
One could easily make dashed lines in SU by drawing a series of short lines, (draw one, then copy (cntrl Move) 2 times it's length, then x however many needed to complete the dashed line, hit enter and you will have a dashed line or do the same with no space between
making a multiple selection (use shift key with select tool) of every other line and Hide.
TaffGoch
10/7/08
catamountain's reply got me thinking about this some more. I took a model, switched to 'wireframe' face style, selected all the lines and checked the 'soft' box (in the 'Entity Info' box.) This has the effect of dashing ALL the lines. I exported a 2D graphic.
I then unchecked the 'soft' box, making all the lines solid. Switching to the 'hidden line' face style hides all the lines on the backside. I exported a second 2D graphic. (Make certain that you don't change the view of the model - don't orbit, zoom, pan, etc.)
In Photoshop, I layered the two exported 2D images. The solid lines overlay some of the dashed lines, so that only the dashed lines remaining visible are the ones on the backside.
The attached image is the result. Is this too much trouble? It's much easier than my initial proposal.
Taff
TaffGoch
10/7/08
I tried the 'soft' method with another object, and there's a problem. Several lines that should be dashed are displayed as solid lines. (See 'Block_soft.png)
As mentioned by catamountain, I also tried checking the 'hidden' box, instead of 'soft.' The visible result seems to take care of the above problem. (See 'Block_hidden.png')
Taff
TaffGoch
10/7/08
Duplicating and offsetting the baseline layer in Photoshop makes for thicker 'solid' lines. The resulting image is a bit more comprehensible.
Taff