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4/13/2015 Revised ISOGG Tree
ISOGG is now reporting the most recent subclades for E1a1 based on our member testing. Below is as of 4/13/2015. Please go to the ISOGG site and scroll down for the most current version.
Blue indicates items with tentative tree positions. The surnames are the initial test results
• • •E1a1 M44 (21752644 G->C) 18.9 KY
• • • •E1a1a Z17697 (7590044 T->C) 5.0 KY • • • •E1a1a1 Z17696 (6955886 G->A) Ashkenazis of n.e. Europe
• • • •E1a1b Z17467 (18675604 C->T) 5.0 KY
• • • • •E1a1b1 Z20650 (2796559 G->A) English
• • • • •E1a1b2 M4507 (8503110 C->T) Mandenkas
• • • • •E1a1b3 Z31502 (2803477 A->C) English [Phelps]
• • • •E1a1c Z31497 (8204437 T->C), Germans [Rhein] 5.0 KY
1/14/20115 A review of what to expect from a Big Y test at FTDNA written by Ray Banks of ISOGG
12/2014: "Origins of all ancestors of our e1a1 members." FTDNA maps showing origins using autosomal data
6/2014: The Future of Genetic Genealogy” Greenspan, 6/2014,Southern Cal Genealogy Society conference
This site will present conjectures and theories of more recent origins of the ancestors of Y-DNA E1a1 haplogroup men (a subclade of E) who immigrated to America and other countries in relatively recent times, not necessarily from anthropological times. These theories are offered by highly interested persons using very scarce data due to the current lack of significant evidence in the scientific arena. Some ideas may be subjective and debatable and are offered here for your consideration. A key motivation is that many of the E1a1 tested men have oral (only) histories of immigration from areas not associated with African origins. Of several questions of concern two are of special interest to some: whether E1a1 that moved into the British Isles and Eastern Europe was comprised of slaves or ordinary working class individuals, and the TMRCA between various groups comprising E1a1.
6/4/2014: For E1a1 related papers, numerical data, and insightful comments by Robert Hall of our project, visit the site http://exploringe1a1.wordpress.com/ Below are samples:
5/2014: Many of our members are Ashkenazi Jews. When did the Ashkenazi Jews arrive in Europe? (unsourced Yahoo answer)
9/27/2013 Site now available by mobile phones
E1a1 men are a subclade of E and are expected to have tested positive for marker M44 in deep clade SNP testing, but negative for P110 (which would be E1a2) Some have observed that two standard STR markers may indicate E1a1: DYS391=9 and DYS392 = 12. This potential will be presented here also.
"Haplogroup E is one of the two branches of the mega-haplogroup DE. It originated approximately 50,000 years ago. Scientists believe that it either arose in Africa or represents a back migration. It has been linked to the Neolithic expansion of peoples into Southern Europe. Over sixty subclades of E have been discovered." Source is here
The following is at ISOGG 11/2014
E M96/PF1823 (and many equivalents)
E1a2* CTS10713/Z958 (and many equivalents)
FTDNA Haplotree differs with the following 11/2014
If you have been tested at FTDNA as positive for E1a1, M44, L632, L634, please join the M44-E1a1 Project
Also if you have YDNA DYS391=9 and Dys392=12 you are likely M44/E1a1, so please join us.
Contact the webmaster dkphelps AT suddenlink.net
Video: Learn about Y-DNA Haplogroup E at the Genetic Genealogy Learning Center
Concerns of applying E or E1a comment to the E1a1 subclade
Since FTDNA is typically used for YDNA testing, their haplogroups comments are informative but very general. At FTDNA, men who do not deep clade-E test, but would be E1a1 if tested, are given the predicted haplogroup E. FTDNA explains the E haplogroup as "This haplogroup originates in Africa and is nearly completely restricted to African populations". Men who are tested to be E1a or the breakout of E1a1 will be told "This haplogroup is restricted to Africa where it occurs in intermediate frequencies. It is less common than its brother lineage E1b1a" FTDNA reports that E1b , another breakout of E, is the usual haplogroup of current day African-Americans. Our understanding of E1a1 continues to evolve, perhaps a bit beyond FTDNA. At present it seems the limited publicly available comment on E1a1 tends to combine it with three other breakouts of E1a (E1a2, E1a3, E1a4).
As of 2014, FTDNA renamed its haplogroups. E1a1 is now M44. FTDNA entirely removed its description above.
Something to think about
"With the information provided by the map below, it's easy to believe that E1a1 migrated any time between 1000 and 1588 A. D., the earliest time representing the Norman takeover of the British Isles and the latter date representing the invasion of the Spanish Armada" Robert Hall
Something more to think about.
People of African origin have been part of English history since Roman times. In the last quarter of the 18th century England was home to a black population of between 10-15,000 people – mostly in major ports but also in market towns and villages across the country. Many worked as domestic servants both paid and unpaid – and it was often unclear whether they were free or not. http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/discover/people-and-places/the-slave-trade-and-abolition/sites-of-memory/black-lives-in-england/
Data from the Atlantic Slave Trade