Are Christians losing their nation?

Christians are in the process of surrendering America to a variety of non-Christian and anti-Christian world views. This is changing America into something it never was and was never intended to become.

The purpose of this site is to highlight the symptoms, causes, and consequences of the decline of Christianity in America, chronicle the more significant ongoing lapses, failures and persecutions of Christians and their churches, and explore what is required to recover from this surrender. This site is developed by a Christian who is appalled at the lack of Christian will and energy devoted to promoting traditional Biblical values in our nation by our churches and in-name-only Christians. Most cannot even be called "cultural Christians" any more because they have jettisoned any semblance of "Christian culture" years ago.

The Church ignores our nation's cultural death spiral...

The Church ignores legitimate challenges in our increasingly hostile and perverse culture. In listening to dozens of sermons in the past several years, I have heard few mentions of how the Bible might guide us in any current issues facing our nation, our communities or our families. I would think these things would be a high priority.

Sure, believe in Jesus and be saved. But the Bible calls for Christians who already believe to do more than that. Isn't it rather selfish just save ourselves and not influence the culture for good? Sure, we're called names: bigots, haters, narrow minded and -phobes of all kinds. That's the neighborhood we're in. I used to believe the Mission Field was in foreign countries. We have a much more needy field in our own backyards - in our own Churches.

This observation of "issue avoidance" is not limited to my church alone. I have endured numerous sermons in a variety of Christian denominations that all have basically the same fluffy message - "Don't Worry - Be Happy"; the pop culture voice of Dr. Phil in sermon form. Such sermons studiously avoid the more pressing issues of the day that hundreds of Chapters of the Bible address and could engage and guide Christians.

Let’s see. What might the Church address that it seems hell-bent on avoiding?

· Fascists and America-haters who initiate violent attacks against police are termed “the good guys” by most media. Those who promote law and order are called “haters.” That could invoke a number of passages of Scripture as part of a relevant and engaging sermon, e.g. what causes people to begin calling "good", "evil" and "evil", "good?"

· Conservative Christians are being marginalized in the culture. Long-standing moral principles are being scuttled in favor of gross perversions. The Bible gives the reasons and consequences for this trend. The Bible also provides solutions and gives Christians clear guidance on defending the Bible's message and our beliefs. I can think of several dozen verses on this topic. You can probably think of several hundred.

· Our faith can no longer be worked out (implemented) in our professions, whether a photographer, a baker, or any other business that serves the public. Christians are being persecuted in their workplace. Another barrel full of Chapters of the Bible address this form of persecution.

· Our borders are porous. Many in our government, the media, and academia want to keep it that way. They don’t believe in national borders or the idea of “nation”. They prefer a “one-world” arrangement. The leaders of Babel tried that. The Bible has a lot to say about attempts of human "government" replacing our trust in God and attempts to create one-world government in defiance of God.

· Diversity is considered superior to unity when in fact it often leads to conflict, strife, and disorder. Tolerance of any behavior or belief has become the highest value in this culture. But this tolerance has become a one way street when it comes to tolerance of Christians and our beliefs. The Bible is full of lessons on that front.

· Prayer and the principles of Biblical morality have been adjudicated out of our public schools. And parents and teachers wonder why there is so much violence and so little learning in our schools. These principles are now rarely taught even in our Churches. The Bible has volumes to say about this.

· Most national leaders and media are deceiving us by avoiding confirming the evil nature of Islamic doctrine. In many instances Christianity is portrayed as the greater menace. Don’t you think that the Church has a responsibility here, if for no other reason than to save its own reputation?

These are but a sampling of the innumerable situations and events that the Bible addresses but the Church avoids.

Does this require minimizing the preaching of the pure Gospel every Sunday - and especially the need to share our faith? No! The Gospel should certainly constitute a portion of every message.

But I have to ask: Why do so many sermons and teaching opportunities dwell on comparatively mundane personal gratification topics and avoid the larger issues facing our families, communities and nation? Are these broader issues too hard to understand - too "political?" Are they too difficult to explain in a Biblical context to the congregation? If so, that is a problem that needs to be addressed. I don't see these topics a "political." I see these as topics ripe for jumping off into exceedingly compelling, Godly, Biblical teaching.

If asked why Churches are losing members, I’d have to say the biggest reason is failure to address the sinking of our nation’s faith. Instead, we dwell on the deck chairs, the selfish pursuit of “good feelings” instead of the bigger picture of a Godly Kingdom.

Yet there are folks and leaders in the Church that insist on such topics over what they might consider to be excessively “controversial” topics like those listed. Has the leadership of this Church indicated to you that they want to avoid “problem issues” and topics that may “offend?” Is that what seminary teaches? Jesus did not avoid problem issues. Jesus did not avoid “offending.”

“Problem avoidance” is killing the Church.

Why Churches are losing attendance and influence in America...

I understand the importance of the gospel message.

But it is also true that the same thing repeated Sunday after Sunday after Sunday gets a bit redundant, and numbs us to its significance after awhile - it just becomes another ritual. Protestants, inspired by the Reformation, have done away with many of the old Catholic rituals. Yet many protestant churches, the Baptists in particular, have created another weekly ritual as the centerpiece of their Sunday services: The ritual of "repent or die." When Mom repeats for the 947th time that we will shoot our eye out, we get well past ignoring her repetition, no matter how important it may be.

There is a single, agonizingly repetitive, semi-mind-numbing message: Repent and be saved. How many thousand times over the course of years of attendance does that have to occupy the majority portion of a 1 to 2 hour church service.

Doesn't the Bible have a LOT more to teach us about the world, relationships, humanity, politics, economics, culture, education, governance and all the rest than "repent and be saved?"

Just because this message is the number one priority does not mean all the otherr priorities need to be an afterthought.

And the Presbyterians, God bless them. They have academic historians as pastors who spend 90% of their sermons discussing the ancient culture of 2,000 to 3,000 years ago: what they wore, the languages they spoke, how a word is different in Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew and English, their habits, their monetary system, what their dirt was made out of, etc. etc. etc. Yet they RARELY make any direct application to what is going on in the world TODAY. And if they take the rare opportunity to bring anything up to date, they will embrace today's culture which is totally at odds with Biblical morality.

And Lutherans: They are the denomination that have mastered the "two Kingdoms" doctrine: The "spiritual" realm, which they teach is the ONLY business of the Church. And the "secular" realm: the governance of the world, nations, states and cities. They teach that secular areas are taboo for the Church. Sound familiar? No mixing church and state for them. The church has "no business" advising us on how we should be governed relative to God's governance and self-governance.

As I read the Bible, it is all about "governance." God's governance. Self-governance. The relationship between God's governance and the secular governments. Today we have labelled those topics "politics" and declared them "taboo." And comparing the Christian Worldview to other worldviews, like Islamic - we never hear about it because most churches believe that one world view, one religion, is as good as another. They've taken the SUPER TOLERANCE pill. They believe Christianity is ALL ABOUT TOLERANCE. Big mistake.

I confess. My early Christian years were under the influence of D. James Kennedy, former pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale. He was one to weave every issue of modern society into his sermons; and weave every topic of the Bible into everyday life.

Most churches have been ignoring 90% of the messages of the Bible for a long time in America.

And we wonder why churches are losing attendance and why Christianity is losing influence.

Witnessing to Muslims: A reality check that most evangelists won't tell you...

There are numerous Christian-based articles and books written about witnessing to Muslims. Most treat Islam as if it is just another erroneous version of Christianity, like they would treat Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witness, or Christian Science. Big mistake.

Many evangelists stress the commonalities of Islam and Christianity as if they believe the same god, the same “Jesus”, the same Abraham and the same Old Testament. Another big mistake. Many focus on the love and forgiveness inherent in Christian doctrine. Many propose a form of “friendship evangelism” where the objective is to “friendship” the Muslim into liking and trusting you. “Give your personal testimony” and surprise and engage them into something they’ve never experienced before. Stress “forgiveness” because there is none in Islam.

Some of these suggestions may be helpful, some are totally off base. All of them are subject to the uniqueness of Islam that makes such witness especially challenging, maybe treacherous compared to witnessing to any other group of people. Keep reading HERE.

My evolving views of Christian Churches and their practice of indifference...

The last church I was involved with for several months belonged to a conservative Lutheran denomination. I thought it was "safe" because they taught strictly from the Bible. The pastor was extremely personable and the folks in the congregation were pleasant, if not a bit on the aloof and reserved side of the personality spectrum. The demographic was "elderly" and "upper middle class."

I was involved in a book study that attracted 4 out of a congregation of 200, Bible studies that rehashed ancient history with little relevance to today, and had conversations with many members who had zero interest in how Christianity interacted with the culture. Their focus was inward - I call it "in-reach" versus "out-reach." Food and socializing was the predominant focus. Sermons were rarely relevant to the challenges the church faces from the culture and government and instead painfully rehashed Bible stories that mature adults heard a thousand times.

I ultimately decided this was not the place for me. This was just one more example for me of how even the most conservative Christian churches are in denial of their plight and coming persecution from the secular, anti-Christian forces arraying against them.

Instead of being defiant and aggressive in the face of the coming storm, they remain placid and indifferent. Their behavior is part of the long standing internal Christian battle between prayer and action. How much should we invoke God's intervention compared to our own role in doing God's work within our culture?

At least this conservative church didn't go along with the cultural decline that goes against millennia of morality with regard to the perversions of homosexuality and same sex marriage. That was one consolation. Their "don't offend anybody" attitude was not as pervasive as it has become in most mainline churches.

Unfortunately I chose a denomination that not only believes that the Church has no business trying to influence government, but even avoids prayer for God's intervention. Baptists do a much better job of encouraging both prayer and individual action to influence our rapidly decaying culture. But even that denomination falls short of recognizing the challenges and dangers their churches are up against.

It is difficult to motivate or even find the support of congregations overwhelmingly comprised of people who are consumed by health issues, entertainment, technology and sports and who consider a Church more of a social connection than a deeply meaningful life-giving faith that is worth defending.

Preachers preach as if people accept the idea of "sin." Most ignore the extent of cultural denial of the concept. Yet churches preach repentance from sin week after week without their audience accepting the reality of "sin." They may as well be speaking Martian to these people. To most of our culture, the idea of sin is foreign and rejected. Read more about this communication lapse HERE.

Why would a Catholic Bishop block the appearance of a Catholic defender against Islam from speaking before a Catholic men's group? Weird but true. Catholic doctrine has something to with it. You see, Catholic doctrine that gives Muslims first place among the unsaved was plainly articulated via Vatican II in their constitution called Lumen Gentium. Section 16 of that document calls for pandering to Muslims because they are "professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind." The same god, huh. What is being smoked in the Vatican? Therefore Muslims should not be insulted with embarrassing facts about their "religion." The Bishop of Worchester, Mass. cited this Catholic doctrine in his rescission of the Islamic expert's appearance before the Catholic men's group. Read more HERE.

Chick Fil A, Amorality, and Tolerance: The pretend tolerant Chicago left show their true colors by their intolerance of Chick Fil A and traditional moral values. The "new" tolerance shows tolerance to be a higher value than morality. Morality is NOT to be tolerated. Read more HERE.

Communists and Muslims in the US endorse Barack Obama: The Communist endorsement was made last year by the Communist Party USA. And to add insult to injury, the great majority of Muslims in the US prefer Obama as well (no surpirse there, eh?) These are facts we need to be reminded about - and remind others. "So what?" you ask. In the 20th century Communist revolutions and governments were responsible for killing over 90 million souls. Muslims are in the process of committing over 100 acts of terror atrocities per month and have continued this pace over most of the last decade.

NEW: The top 3 world views that pose the greatest threat to Christianity today. Read HERE.

The Islamic influence in America isn't the only thing our churches are ignoring at their own peril. The cultural and political shifts of church-goers and the electorate threaten not only our form of government but religious liberties as well. And the church is silent, continuing to fiddle about tolerance and turning the other cheek while the other 80% of Christian teaching is being ignored and allowed to wither.

Separation of Church and State? Listen to the words of Ronald Reagan on this topic.

Many churches promote the WRONG priorities for our times in their teaching. Most messages do not address the needs we face today. Most of their teachings are akin to admonishing us to say "thank you" to someone in the process of igniting a can of gasoline in our midst.

Read more about this HERE.

Whether a paradigm-shifting social action is "reform” or “rebellion” depends on what side you are on – the point of view of the participants.

Reform sounds more civil. Rebellion sounds, well, rebellious.

The first Christian "reform"

We’ve had several mega-event “reform-rebellion” examples throughout history. The ministry of Jesus Christ was, in hindsight, a reform. Its objective was to reform the excessively legalistic attitudes of the Sadducees and Pharisees and their sympathizers by introducing what God intended all along: An attitude of grace and forgiveness for sinners. Some Jews accepted the concept, most did not. To those who accepted, it was reform. For those who rejected, Jesus represented rebellion against the law of the Jews.

The "Reformation": Reform or Rebellion?

The Reformation is another example. Martin Luther and others who promoted reformation in the 1500’s intended to reform the Catholic Church, to force the Church to renounce its corrupt practices and return to the essentials of the faith. The reformation snowballed into a rebellion against the Catholic Church, and became the protestant revolution. Today protestants call it "reformation." Catholics consider it a rebellion against the Church.

Rebellion against the Church

A couple of decades later, another mega-event occurred, this time in England. On the coattails of the Reformation, the Church of England separated from the Catholic Church. This was more of a rebellion than it was a reform in anyone’s book. The elite in England did not appreciate the Catholic Church dictating who could marry or divorce whom. So they jettisoned not just the doctrine of the limitations on marriage, but the entire Catholic Church and reverted to their separate and distinct Church of England. The Episcopal Church in the United States has carried on the tradition of rebellion from Biblical morality and has become one of the more liberal, anything goes, Christian denominations in the world. They continue the form of orthodox Christianity but have killed the substance.

Rebellion against the Nation

Was the US Civil War “reform” or “rebellion?” At the time, that depended on which side you were on. The South saw the north turning the screws on the slavery issue. They may have considered the North rebelling against the South's livelihood and economy. The North saw the south as rebelling against the authority and unity of the nation. Retrospective history labels the North as the reformers and the South as the rebels.

So what should we call the jettisoning of moral standards today? Are those who promote gay marriage, abortion, and legal protections of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender behaviors “reformers” or “rebels?” What is next after this? Promotion of child porn and molestation as "reform?"

Rebellion against God

If they are reformers, what are they reforming back to? What is the wayward behavior they are reforming? Traditional morality? Was there ever a time when overt lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender behaviors were the norm? No! They are reforming behaviors “back” to nothing that has ever existed before. The behaviors they are promoting have never been sanctioned by any religious system or legitimate national government. So no, it is not “reform.”

If they are rebels, what are they rebelling against? Traditional morality. Religious values. Their parents and grandparents. And God. They are rebelling against all things holy and sacred. This is every bit as much a “rebellion” as the Protestant “reformation” turned into, the creation of the Church of England turned into, and the rebellion that fomented the Civil War. Except instead of merely turning back several decades or several centuries of established social, religious, or political norms, this new cultural revolution is erasing multi-millenia of social and religious norms.

I am no prophet, but I would guess that this sort of rebellion against God will not stand. At least I pray not. I will be on God’s side on this one. The consequences of this rebellion will not be pretty.

Some Bible studies like ingrown toenails...

Some Bible studies become like many sermons I've heard: Steeped in personal shrink-like, feel-good, personal advice - much like an Ann Landers column.

Terms that come to mind to describe this condition are "inbreeding", "isolated", "insulated", "self-centered", and yes, much like ingrown toenails that become infected and smelly.

We are kept on "the milk of the Word" for so long that the milk goes sour. Sure, many of us need this "milk." There are many new or recovering Christians who benefit, and older Christians who need reminders.

But recently I proposed the content of a local Bible Study that would break the mold of the "self-help" inbreeding, and attempt to create a bit of an outreach.

What did I propose, and what was the response?

Here goes. I proposed we discuss Proverbs 22:6 and related verses that speak to maintaining Godly families and a Godly culture and nation: "Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old he will not depart from it."

And I added that we invite local sympathetic school board candidates to this study, discuss these verses with them, and explore what is necessary to promote Biblical and Christian values in our public schools, what the constraints are, and how they can be overcome.

In other words, I proposed putting the Word of God to work in the minds and hearts of the leaders of our local public school leadership - and including those candidates in our discussion.

The response from one of our participants was "I don't like the idea of including politics in our Bible study." He might just as well have said "I prefer our inbred Bible studies where we just apply Bible theory to our individual lives - I want nothing to do with trying to influence our culture.

That attitude is so typical of both Bible studies and sermons throughout our allegedly "Christian" churches.

I would not be surprised if liberal, apostate Christian churches were more involved with candidates to encourage them to AVOID promoting Biblical morality in our public schools. Yet Conservative churches staunchly insist on avoiding promoting a Biblical agenda, preferring to remain inbred and Ann Landers-esque.

This gets tiresome. I wonder how God takes it?

"The far-left goal in politics has always been to move government toward socialism and eventually communism, [Trevor] Louden said, and a similar goal is now under way to move churches leftward, too. Over time, he warned, that leftward drift affects the voting base inside those conservative churches, which is the ultimate goal of the far-left provocateurs." More HERE.

The Left's goal in influencing evangelical churches

Church leaders can be exceedingly naive and ill-informed when it comes to the influence of liberal/leftist forces on Christian doctrine and practice.

This is just one example how churches lack faith and courage to speak their convictions and truth. Obviously, this church demonstrated the answer: YES! However, an even better question is "are Christian churches surrendering to Islam?" More HERE.

(Brought to you by the Association of Lukewarm Churches of America)

Irony: CAIR Pressures Baptist Church to Cancel ‘Is Michigan Surrendering to Islam?’ Event by Robert Spencer

Current Issues to Ponder:

Current examples of Christian apostasy and dismissal of traditional Christian belief and practice:

The Double Whammy of Church Indifference

In the last decade or so, there has been a trend toward more Christians, churches, and denominations distancing themselves from supporting their country. Is this a "chicken and egg" thing? Are they averse to supporting their country because of its moral decline? Or is there a moral decline because they don't support their country?

Since many churches and denominations have joined in the moral decline - supporting abortion, gay marriage, homosexuality as a perfectly acceptable lifestyle preference, critical race theory (a form of reverse racism), illicit sex and out of wedlock childbirth, and other woke cultural perversions - it is clearly the latter: Churches and Christians are part of our moral decline.

Sure, there have always been denominations that have not wanted anything to do with voting, politics, or serving in the military. Jehovah's Witnesses and most Church of God denominations take this position. Ironically, these same denominations seem to be most dedicated to Biblical morality. Most of the rest - except for the most conservative Baptists and a few others - are, as William Bennet observed, "slouching toward Gomorrah."

Many denominations have taken the position that the church must have nothing to do with "politics". They believe they will be corrupted by their involvement in promoting Godly, Bible believing candidates or public policy. These are best described as "anti-dominionists." A "dominionist" is the belief that Christians should strive for Godly influence over all of God's creation. Nothing is off limits. The apostates and Satanists among Christians call such believers "Christian jihadis" - a false moral equivalence to the Islamic doctrine of jihad.

Way too many Christians and denominations talk themselves into attempting to influence government policy and candidates in any manner. And new doctrine is invented to seal the deal.

So now, joining the ranks of the unbeliever in our moral decline, we have a double whammy by the churches: Those who have capitulated to and joined the moral decline, as well as churches who've made it a matter of doctrine to avoid any attempt to influence our culture toward morality and Biblical principles or they see themselves corrupted by politics.

Newsflash: The majority of the Bible is all about governance, the rise and fall of nations, culture, morality and politics. Most Churches have become one giant copout. They may as well have Dr. Phil and Karl Marx as their spokesmen.

God help us.

Conservative denomination teaches about Islam without knowing anything about it. And declares those who correct their ignorant, misleading statements are "uncharitable" or worse. A case study.

The Pope wants Christians and Muslims to show "mutual respect." Ignorance of Islam in action. Yes, this is the same Pope who lamented "who am I to judge" when asked about gay Priests and Bishops in the Vatican. Unfortunately, even conservative Christian denominations have adopted a "tolerate everything" doctrine. All "grace and mercy" and very little "truth and justice."

By the way, without being a hypocrite, how is it possible to "show respect" to people or ideologies that not only diametrically oppose your faith, but whose doctrines and historical and current actions are directed at eradicating your culture, church, and doctrinal beliefs through intimidation, violence, and terror?

US churches have become "Poodles" to Islam. They insist on remaining oblivious to the real Islam. What has become of "defending the faith?" Read Bill Warner's analysis HERE.

Biden may as well say "I am personally opposed to murder, but who am I to impose my opinion on others..."

The Biden-Ryan debate illustrated a huge chasm between the integrity of Biden and Ryan. See what I mean here: The Fool vs. the Wise.

Gay celebrants in White House invited by Obama flip off President Reagan portraits

This is just one more indication of where Obama is coming from - where his heart is. Obama loved every second of it or he wouldn’t have invited these gutter rats into the While House. Oh, the company he keeps. Lie with dogs and wake up with fleas. Those who act on their homosexual tendencies are just as vile as those who act on their desire to murder or rape. And Obama celebrates it. Anything for a few hundred thousand filthy votes. Obama a Christian? ROFLMAO. This is like Joy Beyhar, the abortion proponent, claiming she is a Catholic. And now Obama has ORDERED the military to celebrate Gay Pride Month. Might as well ORDER them to celebrate "child porn month.'

When in your lifetime have you heard about zombies eating human faces?

Things are changing. Our culture is in steep descent. Ann Barnhardt has insight into this recent phenomenon from her website. And now "bath salts" have been ruled out of the cause of this bizarre face-chewing, which gives greater credence to Ann's assessment of the spiritual direction we are headed. This is her take which should raise the hair on the back of the neck of any serious Christian:

I suspect many people out there are thinking this, but are too afraid to say it because they think that people will look down upon them as rednecks or stupid or unintelligent. Let me go out front as a person who doesn't give a crap what others think of me, and who is many things, but not stupid, and say it out loud to hopefully edify others to speak openly about it:

YES, THIS RECENT DEVELOPMENT OF NEAR-DAILY HIDEOUS, CANNIBALISTIC MURDERS AND UNFATHOMABLE SEX CRIMES IS A MANIFESTATION OF DEMONIC POSSESSION AND DEMONIC POWER RECLAIMING A FOOTHOLD IN FORMERLY CONSECRATED CHRISTIAN TERRITORY.

You're not imagining things. That's exactly what it is. People have been "bad tripping" on drugs for decades without turning into demonic animals and eating people's faces off of them alive. Just as satan is very, very real, so are demons. The demonic legions are reclaiming and reasserting power in the Americas and Europe because these physical landmasses have lost their consecration to Christ by their apostasy, blasphemy and child sacrifice. It is going to get worse. We are basically going to turn into what the musloid Middle East has been for 1400 years. Civilization is going to lose cohesion and people are going to start doing things that have absolutely no rational explanation: gratuitously gruesome murders and bodily desecration, and rape variants involving children, animals and corpses that normal people cannot comprehend.

The main gateways for demonic possession are drugs, pornography and homosexual/deviant sex. The cannibals have all been drug users. The Canadian cannibal was also a gay porn star. The British couple who raped their own infant children (on camera) are child and bestiality porn merchants. These incidents will increase in frequency exponentially as the collective apostasy of this culture has now reached the point that the "shedding of God's Grace" upon The Americas and Europe is now limited to individuals - and even then, God's grace for the remnant may be within the context of their persecution, imprisonment and martyrdom.

I guess the best advice I can give is when everything goes to hell and you feel despairing, remember that WE DESERVE THIS. What you are seeing is God's Justice, and an opportunity for you and others to draw closer to Him. And THANK HIM.

Public school textbooks promote Islam and slam Christianity

Beware of new public school textbooks on Social Studies, American History, and Government that portray Islam in a positive light, and are critical of or silent about Christianity Read more about this pro-Islam bias in public schools HERE. HERE is a presentation made to a Florida school board complete with a 91 page document that provides examples of misleading and erroneous bias toward Islam. Join those who monitor the school books used in your school district. HERE is an editorial by a Muslim apologist who has infiltrated her way into the pro-Islam public stage. Of course, she claims there is no bias in these textbooks. More taqiyya.

Obama Uses Christianity to Promote Gross Immorality

Pushing the "tolerance" agenda to obscene lengths...

Read more HERE.

America the Apostate

Guest article courtesy of "Counting Moments: Commentary on America from a Christian Perspective

America is said to be built on Judeo-Christian principles.

Basically we placed God’s values above equality (not every view is right, nor every lifestyle correct), religious legalism, or social conformity (consensus). Our law system especially, works off God’s laws as laid down in the Old Testament.

Today it is generally believed 75-80% of Americans identify themselves as Christians.

With these facts it must be concluded that America is going apostate. We have had legalised abortion since 1973. Since God knows each of us from the womb (and before really) we are in fact murdering a human being and doing so in our own self interest. More and more tolerance of the homosexual lifestyle is the norm. Even beyond tolerance, it is being forced on us. Firemen in San Diego recently were ordered to attend a Gay Pride Parade, Gay Marriage referendums(also allowed in MA) are being voted on, and CA is considering making children in public schools learn about it. Divorce is happening to 1 out of 2 marriages, AT LEAST. Injustice is rampant, a good example is Mary Winkler, a pastor’s wife who murdered her husband in cold blood, and is already free. Who do we idolize? Hollywood celebrities, many of whom have no morals and make movies that glorify violence, immorality, and their own selves. There are so many examples that I could not list them all probably.

All of this in spite of the fact that 75-80% of Americans identify themselves as christians.

Abortion has always been a sacrifice in the name of self interest. We kill the baby because we are not ready, it would be an inconvenience, we simply don’t want it. This is murder, and christians know it.

Homosexual behavior has always been defined as sin, and against God’s law. Since a marriage by biblical definition is a man and a woman 2 men or 2 women are obviously commiting fornication. You cannot explain homosexuality as natural it produces only death, it is a part of our sin nature. God loves everyone and so should we, but we do not need to love the sinful behavior of our homosexual neighbors.

No where is divorce encouraged in the bible, and in fact Jesus never allowed it. Divorce causes adultery when the person remarries, except when the person had already commited adultery. Either way, adultery occurs and never is there an endorsement to divorce. Jesus paid for all our sins with his very blood, having loved us so much and forgiving everything, we cannot forgive our spouse of a few things?

Where do we even begin with Hollywood? Almost no film is suitable for children, and really none are suitable for adults either. People follow and idolize Hollywood stars who get divorces, abuse drugs, have immoral sex, are violent, and a host of other sins. Most are not even christian in passing. People will argue for their good qualities, but really what purpose do these people serve in our society? Why do they get paid so much and are given so much attention? Most of them have ZERO talent! Then there are the movies and TV shows themselves, which take many immoral acts and funnel them into our minds. Ever find yourself humming a commerical jingle or using a line from a movie? It does influence your actions.

Our society does not in any serious way oppose any of this or a host of other problems in our country. This in spite of 75-80% identifying ourselves as Christians. With that sort of majority all these problems should be gone right? I suspect most of the so called christians have found ways to deny each of these problems. They shift blame or justify bad behavior/problems by pointing to other cases of outrageous behavior/problems. Others are only christian in name, many wanting respectability use the christian label when they are not. If only they knew christians are like any other person, sinners, they simply realize it and have faith in Jesus as the Savior.

We need Christian leaders to correctly define sin in our country(especially large scale ones) and mobilize christians to oppose them. Where are these leaders? Rick Warren, Joel Osteen and others have large followings, but they have not preached hard against any of this to my knowledge.

[These men are doing a grave disservice to Christianity in America by portraying Christianity as a benign, feel good religion. They ignore many of the major doctrines of Scripture that are essential to the Christian faith because they may be "offensive" to some. GM]

Our nation was founded on judeo-christian values, our population overwhelmingly identified as Christian, yet our culture is becoming saturated in easily identifiable sins. With our large christian population, we have no excuse being ignorant. America is apostate, and so is its christians. Who are we in rebellion against ultimately? God, and woe to us when his patience is exhausted and we are judged.