THREE LOOSE ENDS

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[Note: Dennis refers to a previous tape on 'Bubbles', this tape has not been located. On this missing
tape it appears that Dennis had introduced a technology to discharge a null package/universe – one
in which a non-existence was to be erased, using a null-'To Know' goals package] 

Hello Greg, Dennis here. This is the 7th of July today and on this tape I hope to be able to cover
three rather important loose ends. The first might be called "Bubbles Revisited" and for this I'm
grateful to you Greg, for drawing my attention to something on a recent tape, which allowed me
to look into the subject of bubbles again and come up with some more material which correlates
bubbles with an important aspect of the mind. 

Bubbles Revisited 

At many times during his research in the 1950's Ron Hubbard came up with some related
phenomena to 'The Bubble' the first of this was his mention in the 1950's of the personality
called 'The Merchant of Fear'. This was a rather depraved being. The main characteristic of this
depraved being was that this person seemed to sort of suck you dry emotionally, acted sort of
like  an  emotional  sponge.  You  would  talk  to  this person  for  a  while  and  feel  emotionally
depleted, quite exhausted emotionally. 

Ron just mentioned it and then went on to other things. Then later on in the 1950's he did some
more work on this and came up with the phenomena of what he called 'The Energy Thief'. Now
the energy thief phenomenon was a related phenomena and it's obviously the same phenomena
as the merchant of fear. 

He is a person that, again, emotionally sucks you dry in conversation and tears your havingness
to shreds. I was present when he lectured on this subject; it was a very good lecture he gave on
the subject. Again, there the matter rested. 

Then late in the 1950's he came up with the phenomena of 'The Vacuum', which he researched
some more and he discovered that the vacuum had this peculiar property of sort of slurping in
energy and again if a person was dramatizing this they would show the characteristics of the
energy thief and the merchant of fear. 

This was the phenomena of the vacuum from the whole track, which gets into re-stimulation in
present time and the person who is dramatizing this would be sitting in the vacuum and acting as
an energy vacuum. It kept cropping up in Ron's research and he never resolved it and he kept
adding bits to it as the years went along and we see a progression from the merchant of fear
through the energy thief to the vacuum. 

It obviously kept cropping up on the subject of havingness because Ron had a havingness
process  in  mocking  up  masses  and  pulling  them  in  on  yourself.  Well  that  would  tend  to
restimulate the vacuum effect and you would get these masses flying in at times and they used
to call them avalanches and I think, although I can't be certain of this, I think the phenomena
there came from the work he did on that havingness technique, mocking up masses and pulling
them in. 

It would certainly restimulate the vacuum and anyway whatever the source was of his research
on it culminated, as far as I know in the late 50's there with the phenomena of the vacuum. Now
another name for the vacuum was 'The Black Hole in Space' and it was an energy slurp. It would
simply slurp energy from the being. He would put energy out towards this thing and it would
simply gobble up his energy and again it would drain him dry emotionally, and he would feel
quite exhausted and his havingness would get shot and there were the phenomena of the
vacuum and so forth and the various other names. 

And so we have all the little phenomena. Let's go through them again, we have the merchant of
fear, the energy thief, the vacuum and the black hole in space. Now I've come across these
phenomena in auditing preclears, particularly  the black hole in space and it's a very nasty
phenomenon if you ever come across it. 

If the person hits it on the track it can be very nasty indeed. It throws the E-Meter violently about
the place and throws the preclear emotionally about the place too. It's a very nasty incident and
produces an enormous amount of fear of the black hole, simply because it's slurping the persons
energy and they daren't go near it. 

They feel like they're going to get lost in the black hole. They'll vanish. They feel they will
completely lose their identity by being slurped into the black hole. Alright now so much for Ron's
research along those lines, I mean, he did a lot more work on this. I've just given you a resume
here. If you want to hear his actual lectures you would have to pick them up and listen to them. 

He gives a lot more material than I've given here on this brief resume. But I've given you the
essence of the material. Now we know from my research that there is this phenomena of the
bubble that when a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate is parked in the void and you come along and
direct a 'Know' postulate at this 'Mustn't be Known' postulate that a bubble of energy will
appear around the 'Mustn't be Known' postulate and you will get the phenomena of the bubble. 

And we know that these bubbles do occur. There was a period on the track where these occurred
and we have a technique for getting rid of ‘The Bubble’. 

The Null-'To Know' Goals Package 

The bubble is the manifestation of something from nothing, of getting energy coming into
existence from a non-existence, something from nothing. And I developed the null-'To Know'
goals package to handle the bubble and erase the bubbles. All this I've given you on the previous
lecture on the subject of the bubbles. So far so good. 

But all I've given you was what happened if you directed a 'Know' postulate at the bubble. But
then again what would happen if you were to direct a 'Must be Known' postulate at the bubble?
Well now, I should have mentioned this on my last tape. 

[Note: This is a very interesting shift, here Dennis is applying the positive leg of the postulate to the
opposite negative leg of the postulate. Thus, it is not of the usual complementary or conflicting
form.] 

The reason why I didn't mention it on my last tape is a very interesting reason. With the bubble
phenomena on my track at no point on my track did I ever direct a 'Must be Known' postulate at a
bubble. I only ever directed a 'Know' postulate at a bubble and so I had no subjective data of
what would happen if you were to direct a 'Must be Known' postulate at the bubble. 

Of course it's obvious from basics what would happen if you were to direct a 'Must be Known'
postulate at the bubble. What's going to happen is the energy that you direct at the bubble is
going to go towards the bubble which is essentially a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate that's sitting
in the void and as soon as it gets under the influence of the 'Mustn't be Known' postulate it's
going to go black and start to disappear. 

So you're sitting there, you’re directing energy towards this bubble and your energy is going into
the bubble and disappearing, is vanishing, you see. That's the effect that you're getting. You
don't know what's in the bubble, you see, all you know is that you’re directing energy at the
bubble and your energy is disappearing, hitting the 'Mustn't be Known' and is going black and
vanishing. 

You must realise that a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate is an un-mocking postulate. I mean if you
put a powerful enough 'Mustn't be Known' postulate into an energy mass, the energy mass will
simply vanish. It's the non-existence postulate, 'Mustn't be Known', it's the non-existence. It's the
way you un-mock things, you see. 

So you’ve got a powerful 'Mustn't be Known' postulate sitting in the void and you direct a 'Must
be Known' postulate at it you're going to feel yourself being sucked dry, that's the effect there.
But as long as you keep directing 'Must be Known' postulates at it you're going to lose your

energy all the time. It's going to keep disappearing under the influence of this powerful 'Mustn't
be Known' postulate sitting in the void. 

So you get the effect of the phenomena that Ron Hubbard was mentioning there in his research.
Now the interesting thing that I never correlated with Ron Hubbard, I knew of his research, of
course, but I never correlated it with the bubble phenomena simply because on my own track I'd
never done this thing. I'd never directed a 'Must be Known' at the bubble. 

I had to do it in present time. Create the bubble, put the postulate in the bubble and direct the
'Must be Known' postulate at the bubble and immediately got the connection straight away
between the vacuums, the merchant of fear, the energy thief and the black hole in space. 

The whole thing just fell immediately into place because there was the exact phenomena that
Ron Hubbard reported in the late 50's. So we can add to our knowledge of the bubble, we can
take this material from Ron Hubbard there, that a person inside the bubble dramatizing the
universe of the bubble will give all the manifestations of the black hole in space, the 'Mustn't be
Known' postulate. 

In other words, this person almost certainly would have a black field and they would, when you
talk to them, they would tend to emotionally dry you out. You will feel your havingness getting
shot in their presence; this is the energy thief, and also the degradation there. The loss of
havingness leads to a feeling of degradation, and the person who's collapsed into the bubble
would of course be degraded and we get this phenomenon of the degraded being in the bubble.
The phenomena of the merchant of fear so all the ends tie up now. 

That this is what would happen if your person was to approach a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate
sitting in space and direct a 'Must be Known' postulate at it. They could get overwhelmed by the
'Mustn't be Known' postulate. They'd lose all their energy to it and finally succumb to it and sink
into the 'Mustn't be Known' postulate and they could be dramatizing this in present time, and
they could actually be a bubble personality, what we would call a bubble personality. I think
that's a better name than energy thief or merchant of fear, it's a bubble personality. They show
the  manifestation  of  no  substance.  Their  personality  is  all  airy-fairy,  no  substance,  there's
nothing there. Every time you try and pin them down there's nothing there. And all the time
there's the uncomfortable feeling that you're in the presence of nothing. There isn't anything
there. They're sitting in the middle of a bubble and the essence of the bubble is that there's
nothing there. And all of us have no doubt met this type of person. I've met this type of
personality. 

As soon as Ron Hubbard mentioned the phenomena back in the ‘50s I recognised the personality
and I also recognised it from auditing preclears because the phenomena had shown up in
auditing on whole track but I didn't recognise what it was, many auditors had spotted it, but I
didn't recognise what it was, but as soon as Ron clarified it we all knew what it was there. 

So tying up all the loose ends now on the subject of the bubble. You can expect that some
personalities will be inside the bubble and they will be an energy thief. And you'll find your
havingness gets depleted. They will tend to be a bit degraded as a personality and so on. 

And also you can expect to feel the bubble personality. When you come across this personality in
everyday life there is a sort of a lack of substance to them. They're airy-fairy, there's no depth to
them there. And you would also experience the manifestation of loss of energy. 

So there, Greg, that wraps up the whole subject now. We can tie up the subject of the bubble
there. You get the phenomena of the bubble itself forming around the 'Mustn't be Known'
postulate as a characteristic of directing a 'Must Know' postulate at it. 

If you don't direct a 'Must Know' postulate at it you won't see much of a bubble. If you direct a
'Must be Known' postulate at a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate, no bubble will form, you'll just get
the energy slurp. You'll just lose the mass that you direct at the bubble. The mass will tend to be
unmocked by the 'Mustn't be Known' postulate. 

So there's nothing fearful about this. The correct thing to do if you come across something which
is slurping your energy? Well, simply realise what it is, that it's a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate
and simply duplicate it. 

It's ok, it's a 'Mustn't be Known' postulate that's what it is. It isn't anything mystical. Physicists in
modern science have come up with a phenomenon called the black hole in space where objects
disappear in this thing which seems to be a bottomless pit. 

Well now whether these things exist in the physical universe, they probably do, they may be a
manifestation of the bubble phenomena in the actual universe of physics, in the actual real
universe in present time, in the galaxy. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they are there. So we do
have the manifestation of the bubble still floating along in the universe in present time and it
hasn't left us, it's still with us. 

It's the phenomena of the bubble and it's known in the subject of physics as a black hole. So
there, that ties the ends up on the subject of the bubble. 

The only thing left now is to ask does any of this modify in any way our technology regarding the
bubble? 

No it doesn't, we just have to realise that the junior universe of a vacuum is a non-existence by
definition. If you look up the word vacuum in the dictionary you'll find that it's defined as a non-
existence and an absence of mass. 

So the term vacuum and non-existence are pretty well synonymous. So be very careful that when
erasing a vacuum from the mind. It can be made the subject of the null-'To Know' goals package
at Level 5C-Bubbles and it will erase as such in that goals package. 

The junior universe of a vacuum cannot, repeat, cannot be erased as the subject matter of the
'To Know' goals package at Level 5C because the vacuum is a non-existence it has to be made the
subject matter of the null-'To Know' goals package at Level 5C-Bubbles. The mass, the actual
mass of the bubble, the actual sensation mass that surrounds the bubble, that can be made -
because it's an existence - that can be made the subject matter of the 'To Know' goals package at
Level 5C. 

So the bubble, the junior universe of bubble, that is just the sensation mass, can be erased from
the mind at Level 5C, it can be erased from the mind by making it the subject matter of the 'To
Know' goals package at Level 5C. But that won't break the phenomena down. 

Inside the bubble is the non-existence and you have to erase the bubble phenomena. You must
erase the junior universe of non-existence, making it the subject matter of the null-'To Know'
goals package at Level 5C-Bubbles as I've already mentioned on the earlier tape. 

So all we really have to do is just to be very careful when dealing with this junior universe of the
vacuum, that you'll have to treat it as a synonym for the junior universe of non-existence and use
it and erase it within the confines of the null-'To Know' goals package and you'll be fine. It erases
like a lamb, it does. Once you've erased the null-'To Know' goals package at Level 5C-Bubbles.
Then none of this material has any charge on it at all, it's all as dead as a mackerel, it doesn't rate
a flicker on my bank, none of it does, not a flicker. 

Even doing the correlation and playing with it there's just simply not a flicker. The whole secret is
to erase the junior universe of non-existence in the null-'To Know' goals package. Once you've
got that nulled down and erased then the whole subject of bubbles is dead. It's just deader than
a piece of dead mutton, it is, as far as charge is concerned. 

Right, well that wraps up the subject of bubbles. 

Additional Data on Sex 

Next I want to give you some additional data on the subject of sex. I wanted to include this in the
original tape but unfortunately the spool wasn't long enough. And I had to leave it off and as it
was the least important of the material this was the material that got deleted. 

Well now I'm on a new tape and I've got a bit of tape to spare here. I can give you this new
material. 

Gender Obsessive Postulate Situation 

This is the material on the subject of GOPS. Now these GOPS are the initials of Gender Obsessive
Postulate  Situation.  It's  a  rather  clumsy  term  but  it's  the  best  descriptive  term  for  the
phenomena I know of, without going into vast complexities of material which I haven't yet
introduced and don't want to introduce at this stage because my research just isn't complete on
it. 

So we'll call it a GOPS at this stage. Later on if I complete my research on this material I'll call it
something else but at this stage we'll call it a GOPS. Now an almost universal sexual problem
that human beings have is, and this applies to both males and females, is puzzlement as to
whether a particular sexual activity that they engage in, one that they use to derive sexual
sensation, whether this is a masculine or a feminine activity. 

And it can be very puzzling. When one considers the almost infinite variety of sexual quirks that
the human mind is capable of producing it's no surprise that this puzzlement occurs amongst
human beings. The problem arises when the person gets involved in some sexual activity which
they find sexually stimulating and then the activity may not appear to match their gender
completely so they say to themselves, "Well am I out of gender?" you know, the male might say,
"Well I'm engaging in this activity, is it a homosexual activity? And if it is a homosexual activity
then therefore if I am engaging in this activity I'm a sort of secret homosexual." 

And he starts to worry about it. And he can't resolve it so the whole thing becomes a sort of an
unresolved problem and sits there in his mind as an unresolved problem. You see how this could
be? And it's only because of the vast number of sexual quirks that occur on the subject of sex. 

There are more sexual quirks than there are quirks on any other of the goals packages, you
know.  There  are  a  vast  number  of  sexual  quirks  that  human  beings  are  capable  of.  Well
fortunately in this technology it's very easy to resolve this problem once and for all. We can take
any quirk in the human psyche. Any conceivable quirk in the human psyche, which is a behaviour
which generates sexual sensation and we can determine with utter certainty whether this is a
masculine pursuit or whether it's a feminine pursuit. 

And this is the subject of the GOPS, the Gender Obsessive Postulate Situation. 

Now if you recall on the earlier tape on the subject of the 'To Sex' goals package, I mentioned
almost briefly in passing that the male goes into sexual orgasm when he drives the female from
'Mustn't be Sexed' into 'Must be Sexed' and the female goes into sexual orgasm when she drives
the male from 'Mustn't Sex' into 'Must Sex'. 

You remember that material it's on the earlier tape there. The male deprives the female of her
'Mustn't be Sexed' postulate and drives her into 'Must be Sexed' and thereby goes into orgasm. 

The female, her orgasm is depriving the male of his 'Mustn't Sex' postulate and thereby driving
him into 'Must Sex' and that's her orgasmic situation. 

Now these orgasmic situations are the peak intensity of sexual sensation so this particular
postulate configuration, this particular postulation situation becomes obsessive to the gender.
That's the essence of what I'm getting at here. That's why I call it a Gender Obsessive Postulate
Situation. 

The male becomes obsessed with activities that deprive another person whether a male or a
female, that deprive another person of their 'Mustn't be Sexed' postulate. And drive them into
'Must be Sexed'. He becomes obsessed with this postulate configuration, with this postulate
situation. 

Similarly the female becomes obsessed with the postulate situation where she is depriving
another, whether a male or a female of their 'Mustn't Sex' postulate and driving them into 'Must
Sex'. In other words these GOPS situations become associated in the mind with peak sexual
sensation. You see that? And equally importantly they're quite distinctive. The male has no
interest in the GOPS of driving a person from 'Mustn't Sex' into 'Must Sex'. It simply leaves him
cold. 

He simply doesn't generate any sexual sensation for himself in that situation. It's not a peak
sexual experience for him, at all. Yet that same situation is very significant to a female, you see
that? Similarly with a female, to the female the situation of 'Mustn't be Sexed' being driven into
'Must be Sexed' leaves her completely cold, you see that? Has no significance for her at all. 

So these situations are distinctive of gender. We can separate gender, in other words, by the
sexual quirk that the person has and is using to generate sexual sensation. Or it could be, doesn't
need to be a sexual quirk, it could be just ordinary straight sexual relationship, good normal
sexual relationship, there. 

They are separated out too. So this is of tremendous value to us on this subject of sexuality. All
we have to do is to know what the sexual situation is that the person is engaged in, which they're
using  to  derive  sexual  sensation,  and  note  it's  postulate  structure  in  terms  of  the  sexual
postulates of the 'To Sex' goals package. In other words see what sort of a sexual situation it is,
once we've spotted it we know, it's going to be one or the other, it's going to be one of those
two, it can't be anything else. 

See the person's either in a male universe or he's in a female universe. If he's in a male universe
it's the male GOPS and if the person's in the feminine universe it will be the female GOPS. The
only evaluation required is to take the situation and interpret it in terms of the sexual postulates
of the 'To Sex' goals package. You see that? But that's not difficult if you know the postulates. If
you know the postulates there you can see at a glance. 

This never poses any difficulty, never poses any difficulty at all. I'll give you an example of this
that will clarify the situation. I had a preclear once many years ago in London that had a sexual
quirk to do with wearing Wellington boots and he used to get sexually aroused if females were
wearing Wellington boots. It used to give him an erection; he used to get sexual arousal. And he
was always pestering his girlfriends to wear Wellington boots. 

Well this was fine, the only trouble was that if he wore Wellington boots himself he would get
sexually aroused and the problem was that it used to worry him as to whether he was masculine
or feminine. He didn't know whether it was a masculine quirk or whether it was a feminine quirk.
He didn't know whether he was a homosexual or not. 

That was the main worry. He enjoyed his little game with the Wellington boots, that wasn't what
was bothering him. What was bothering him was he didn't know whether he was in his male
universe where he reckoned he ought to be or whether he was in the feminine universe where
he decided he didn't ought to be. See? 

Well now we could solve this right away, the person could solve this right away, there. Quite
obviously the female wears the Wellington boots. If he wears the Wellington boots he's the
female. But look it's still the male getting the sexual arousal. So the Wellington boots in some
way must be associated with the male orgasm. You see that? 

It's a male pushing the female through from 'Mustn't be Sexed' into 'Must be Sexed'. I can't tell
you any more than just the barest details of it but essentially it would have been a male activity
simply because of this consideration the female is more easily sexable when she was wearing
Wellington boots. It made her more sexable, more sexy and more amenable to sex. I recall him
telling me that, that was definitely part of it there, that it made her more amenable to sex, so
there we are. That somehow wearing the Wellington boots was depriving the female of her
'Mustn't be Sexed' postulate. 

So therefore it's a male GOPS, therefore he was a male, he was in the male universe. You see
how you could evaluate this? Now this can go to quite extreme lengths this evaluation, it can.
How about a male who derives sexual pleasure from being raped by another male, it gives him an
erection. How about that? 

Now which universe is he in, is he a male or is he a female? Is he in a male universe or is he in a
female universe? He's in the male universe, he's not in the female universe. Why? Why is that?
Well the GOPS, the gender obsessive postulate situation that is giving him the sexual thrill,
giving him the erection is a person being driven from 'Mustn't be Sexed' into 'Must be Sexed'
which is the male GOPS, you see that. The fact that his body is being driven through the 'Mustn't
be Sexed' into 'Must be Sexed' has got nothing to do with it. He's not occupying that side of his
body when it's happening to him, you see. He's the other side deriving the sexual pleasure... 

occupying the male side of his body during the sexual assault and enjoying the sexual sensation
as a male would enjoy it. You see that? 

So he's in the male universe at that point. See it's not difficult to sort it out. It's simply a question
of  which  of  the  GOPS's  is  the  one  which  is  sexually  stimulating  to  the  person  and  that
determines their gender. Now I'll give you an example of a male that's in a female universe. 

We have the case of a male who wears feminine clothes in order to sexually arouse other males.
Now here the GOPS is driving other males from 'Mustn't Sex' into 'Must Sex'. In other words he's
trying to deprive them of their postulate 'To Not Sex', trying to force them 'To Sex'. you see, by
wearing feminine clothes. So this male is in the feminine universe and he's being sexually
stimulated by a feminine GOPS. 

Take some feminine examples. Let's take the example of a mother who has a queer sexual
perversion, who derives sexual sensation and sexual pleasure from dressing her son in female
clothes. Now which universe does that put her into? Well it puts her into the male universe. It's a
male GOPS situation because she's driving her son from 'Mustn't be Sexed' into 'Must be Sexed'
by making him wear feminine clothes. So therefore she's in the male universe. It's a male
universe GOPS situation. 

On the other hand a mother with a sexual quirk where she derives sexual sensation from
dressing her daughter in boys clothes would be in the female universe. And why would that be?
Well by dressing her daughter in boys clothes she is driving the daughter into a 'Must Sex'
situation, she's masculinating her, you see, driving the daughter from 'Mustn't Sex' into 'Must
Sex' by forcing her to adopt all these male gender symbols. So therefore it's a feminine GOPS
situation and she's in the feminine universe when she practices this perversion. 

You see they can all be sorted out, Greg. I think I've given you enough examples here now to see
it doesn't matter how peculiar the perversion, providing the person derives sexual sensation
from the perversion you can always determine which GOPS it is and thereby determine which
universe, whether male or female, the person is in. So there's the mechanism of the GOPS, it's a
very valuable mechanism. It's something that any sexual therapist would give his back teeth to
know about, you know. 

Using Bubble Technology on the ‘To Sex’ Goals Package 

I mean it solves so many problems, instantly. It's an instant solution to so many human sexual
problems. Finally on this little section on the subject of sex I'd like to anticipate some questions
I'm likely to be asked on this subject of whether there's any use of the bubble technology in the
erasure of the 'To Sex' goals package. Well the answer is no. The answer is no. Even though we
have a situation where we have a male with male sex cells and no female sex cells and female
body with female sex cells and no male sex cells, I've thoroughly researched this whole area in 

terms of bubbles and the answer is no. The answer is no there's no bubble situation that I've
come across on the subject of sex. 

In other words, the 'To Sex' goals package will erase without using the bubble technology on the
subject of sex cells. It wouldn't be technically wrong to address the junior universe of no male
sex cells within the null-'To Know' goals package or the junior universe of no female sex cells
within the null-'To Know' goals package. 

It wouldn't be technically in error to do so but I've never come across a situation where it would
be required to do so, and certainly one wouldn't dream of doing so until one had erased the
general junior universe of non-existence within the null-’To Know’ goals package. 

But anyway, as I say, I haven't come across any need to do this I've thoroughly researched this
whole subject of bubbles in relationship to sex there and it's a dead end. It really is, it's a dead
end. It was very promising when I first came across it. I thought, "Well, well this will be an
absolutely fertile ground for bubbles." And it isn't, it isn't. It's a dead end. So there's no point in
it, there's no future in it, and although you can certainly erase those null universes of no female
sex cells and no male sex cells if you want to but I don't think you'll get anything out of it. It's a
dead end. So I thought I'd mention this in passing to answer a question which I might be asked in
the future on the subject of the relationship of bubble technology and the erasure of the 'To
Sex' goals package. The answer is, it's not necessary. You don't need to back up our bubble
technology on the subject of the 'To Sex' goals package regarding sex cells. 

However there are some conceivable games people might play with gender symbols and the
absence of gender symbols where you could use the bubble technology. Where a person gets
involved in playing games with the absence of gender symbols. But look this material here is not
necessary to run in order to erase the 'To Sex' goals package. The 'To Sex' goals package will
erase quite independently of the subject of gender symbols as I mentioned to you on the main
tape. 

You know, actually it's the other way around. That you won't erase gender symbols until you've
erased the 'To Sex' goals package. So although you may use the bubble technology, may have
need for the bubble technology on the subject of gender symbols, on playing games to do with
the non-existence of gender symbols it doesn't apply on the sex cells game which is the game
associated with the erasure of the general 'To Sex' goals package in therapy. 

So I hope that will answer the questions that haven't arrived yet but undoubtedly may arise in
the future. Ok, so much for that. 

Identity and Purposes, Entities 

The third and final thing I want to take up on this tape is the subject of identity and purposes and
to wrap up this subject of Level 5C. Now the first thing we need to know about an identity is, of
course, that it is a junior universe, that the class of identities are within the class of junior
universes. 

It's a type of junior universe, see, it's an identity. The only difference we see between the idea of
an identity and the idea of a junior universe is that the identity we usually consider as being alive
or, as the main class of junior universe consists of both life and non-life objects, entities. Ok? 

Junior Universes Only Consists of Postulates 

Now, one of the propositions that some people find very difficult to grasp is that a junior
universe and that includes identities, of course, only consists of purposes. It's very difficult for
some people to grasp this, they think that there's something else there. In other words, the
great illusion in this universe is that a junior universe, identities etc. consists of other things than
postulates. Or if they do consist of postulates, they consist of postulates plus other things. Well
this just isn't so. 

The junior universe only consists of postulates. 

This isn't just an idle speculation I can actually prove this statement because in my research on
many occasions I've erased postulates from the mind and discovered that junior universes are
erased too. 

For example, the junior universe of masculinity consists of, and only consists of, the postulate 'To
Sex' and the postulate 'To Not Sex'. Now how do I know this to be so? Well simply because when
you erase the 'To Sex' goals package, in which two of the four postulates of the 'To Sex' goals
package are the postulate 'To Sex' and the postulate 'To Not Sex', you find that the junior
universe of masculinity has erased too. 

Now if the junior universe of masculinity consists of other things than those two postulates then
there would be a residue left after the 'To Sex' goals package was erased. Wouldn't there? But
there is no residue. When you come to test the junior universe of masculinity at Level 5C after
you've erased the 'To Sex' goals package you find there's absolutely nothing there. That’s it it's
gone, it's erased, it went when you erased the 'To Sex' goals package. 

Similarly with the junior universe of femininity, which only consists of the two postulates 'To be
Sexed' and 'To Not be Sexed', that to erases when the 'To Sex' goals package erases, thus proving
that it only consists of those two postulates. 

So I'm on very firm ground when I say this. It's not just an idle opinion. I'm on very firm ground.
So our very first principle to do with Level 5C will tell us the 'Royal Road to Erasure' using junior
universes is first of all to null down the 'To Know' goals package at Level 5A, as far as we can. 

Then to get in at Level 5B and null, well more than null, but collapse or erase as many junior
goals packages as we can at Level 5B. And, only then, to even start looking or even consider
going on to Level 5C. 

You see there's a very good reason why Level 5B precedes Level 5C in the procedure. Level 5C
simply doesn't run until you've run Level 5B, and we see why it won't run, because the junior
universes at Level 5C consists of the postulates found in the junior goals packages at Level 5B. 

In fact the only junior universes that will hang fire, that you'll find at Level 5C that are hanging
fire are those which have got postulates in them to do with junior goals packages, which as yet
have not been erased or collapsed at Level 5B. 

As you're picking up these junior universes at Level 5C on the basis of interest, your interest will
naturally go to the ones which are un-erased. You see, you're picking them out there and they
won't erase, they haven't erased. The only reason they haven't erased is because the purposes
are hanging fire on un-erased and un-collapsed goals packages at Level 5B. 

And why are these junior goals packages hanging fire at Level 5B? Why didn't they erase at Level
5A? Well they didn't erase at Level 5A because the person considers the purpose of these junior
goals packages to be independent of the four legs of the general 'To Know' goals package. If the
person considers the purpose of the junior goals package to be within the purposes of the
general 'To Know' goals package of course then the junior goals package will collapse and erase
when you're nulling at Level 5A. You see that? 

Or to put it another way when you finally erase the 'To Know' goals package at Level 5A all the
junior goals packages at Level 5B will have been erased and all the junior universes at Level 5C
will have been erased. So when you finally do erase the 'To Know' goals package at Level 5A
there isn't anything left at Level 5B and there's nothing left at Level 5C to erase. Follow that? 

The theory behind this is very simple and I'm giving it to you here. If you can grasp this you get
the whole thing and you'll have no trouble on Level 5A, 5B and 5C. If you don't get it you'll
struggle. 

Further Clarity on the Level 5 Procedure 

So your procedure, you start in at Level 5A, you null 5A down as far as you can go. It may go
through to erasure, fine, marvellous. If it does then you won't have to do anything at Level 5B or
Level 5C, but with the vast majority of people it will hang fire, it will null down and then stop. 

Well that's the point you leave 5A and go on to 5B. You say to yourself, "Right, I've got some
junior goals packages which I consider independent of the 'To Know' goals package" and you find
them at Level 5B on the basis of interest but you select them off the prepared list I've given you. 

I've given you a list of the most important of the junior goals packages at Level 5B. You select off
that list initially. Till you've exhausted that list. Till there's nothing on that list which is of any
further interest to you. Then when you, and every time you erase or collapse a junior goals
package at Level 5B you always go back and re-null the 'To Know' goals package at Level 5A. 

You must mop up that extra charge. And backwards and forwards you go. When you can't find
anything on the prepared list I've given you, and there's still some charge around you say to
yourself, "Ok." You can then start looking for junior goals packages of your own if you want to.
I've given you how you can find them and how you can find if they're erasable or not. 

But finally you're going to get to a point on Level 5B where you can't find any more junior goals
packages of any significance. It's all gone very quiet but the 'To Know' goals package still won't
erase, won't go to erasure. Right, that means that you're now finished with 5B temporarily. 

You've got to go onto 5C now. So you go onto 5C and on the basis of interest you find a junior
universe. Now the first thing you do with a junior universe is run it. Make it the subject matter of
the 'To Know' goals package at Level 5C. That's the first thing you do. If it erases that's fine,
you've finished with that one. Then re-null the basic 'To Know' goals package at Level 5A. 

Every time you erase a junior universe at Level 5C you always re-null the 'To Know' goals package
at Level 5A. You must do this to mop up your charge; otherwise you'll keep building up charge on
the basic package, which will stop you in your tracks eventually. You’ve got to keep that basic
package nulled. 

But sooner or later at Level 5C you're going to come up against one that won't erase. You try it at
Level 5C and it just grinds on. You make it the subject matter of the 'To Know' goals package and
you can't erase it. And so, right, what do you do then? Well you say to yourself, "This junior
universe must consist of some purposes which belong in an un-erased or un-collapsed junior
goals package at Level 5B and it's up to you to find out where it is. 

So you sit down and list out the purposes and functions of this junior universe that is hanging
fire. Just list them off. Just write them down on a bit of paper if you want to. Then you pick the
most important, this is the test, the most important of these functions or purposes and use that. 

You say, "Right, well there you've got this purpose, now you've got to find the goals package."
You've got to find the goals package at Level 5B and formulate that purpose into a goals
package at Level 5B. Or if you do so and it's un-erasable then you've got to find an erasable one. 

Here, I've given you that technology that'll do that, so I won't repeat that again. You've got to
find an erasable goals package at Level 5B that's hanging fire that contains the purpose of the
hanging fire junior universe at Level 5C. 

Then having found it you erase or collapse that junior goals package at Level 5B. And as soon as
you erase or collapse that junior goals package at Level 5B you immediately go back to Level 5A
and re-null the basic package. Then go back to 5C and have another look at your junior universe.
You now test that junior universe once more back in the basic package; it may go through to
erasure now. 

If it doesn't, then ok, go back to your list of its functions, purposes. Find another purpose, then
find another junior goals package at Level 5B and do the same procedure again. Erase that or
collapse that then go back and re-null the 'To Know' goals package at Level 5A. Then back to your
junior universe at Level 5C and retest it within the 'To Know' goals package. 

All the time you're nibbling at it, you see. Every time you're nibbling at it you’re breaking it down,
breaking it's purposes down, erasing it's purposes, eventually there'll be nothing left. It will just
fall apart. Be nothing there. Now that's the way you do Level 5C. 

So the key datum here is that every time you erase or collapse a junior goals package at 5B or
every time you erase a junior universe at Level 5C you must, repeat must go back to Level 5A and
re-null the basic package. That is vitally important. Otherwise you'll just be leaving yourself with
charge on that basic package and your therapy will grind to a shuddering halt. Got to keep that
basic package at Level 5A nulled down. 

Then one day you'll go back to the basic package and re-null it down and it will go straight
through to erasure and all of them have gone now. All of the junior universes have gone and all
your junior goals packages have gone and your basic package is gone. The whole lots gone, and
nothing, none of them will show on an E-Meter, it's all gone, the whole lots gone. You won't be
able to find any goals packages or any junior universes that will move an E-Meter in the slightest. 

You've done it. You've got that. Ok, you have now completed Level 5. Well that's the routine,
that's the way you do it. And so I see I'm getting to the end of this tape. I'll wish you good luck on
Level 5C. 

Bye bye for now. 

End of tape