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In a recent post entitled Tiny House Living: the Ultimate Un-Making Project? I outlined my deeper motivation for going tiny. I started to make the case for why tiny house living is more about the intention to live simply and with less reliance on external things for happiness than it is about the house itself. But that got me thinking: with all the newer (and bigger, more elaborate, feature-rich) tiny houses being built these day, as we losing the soul of the movement?

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But with all that, I believe there was something deeper. Why did Dee and Jay start their tiny house journeys building 12' homes (Dee still lives full-time in hers, now diminutive compared to nearly every other tiny house being built)? Couldn't they just have easily built 16', 20', 24' or 28'? Didn't they also want the comforts they were used to? Who wouldn't want a washing machine, full kitchen (or running water for that matter), a claw-foot tub, flat screen TV, etc, etc.?

Dee describes a similar concept as being self-contained but interdependent. Have what you need to to care for your basic needs, but leave as much space as possible (or even create the need, intentionally) for the healthy dependence on other people and for other people on you. The more we have in our house the less often we'll find ourselves out in the world, seeking connection and friendship. That's another long conversation in itself, but something to think about when you choose what to include and what to do without.

Building the coolest, most stunning, pinterest-friendly tiny house and having your photos spread far a and wide, giving you your 15 minutes of internet fame, can be fun for a short while. There's a temptation to see what others are doing and to "keep up with the Joneses" so to speak. It's funny that the tiny house movement grew, in part, out the desire for just the opposite, yet that same phenomenon now exists quite strongly within the movement itself.

G'day, It isn't only in America, it is right here in the land of Oz, Australia. We are told to get a good education get a great paying job, buy the great Australian dream on your 1/4 acre block, raise a family,pay your house off, put money into superannuation, travel overseas work until your 75 and then retire on your amazing savings and superannuation. It is such a farce and it doesn't work. Generation Y sees that but we keep telling ourselves and them we need more crap and a huge house to put it in. I agree with you. What's going on. Most Aussies are over it. We have holidays we can't take because there is no one to cover for us. Nor can you take your long service leave because it is going to cost the company too much all at once. What happened to living simply. Appreciating what we have and be happy and not stressed.

Five years ago when I first started seeing videos about tiny houses they were small and cheap. Now they range from cheap to ridiculously expensive. So I guess it just depends on what your definition of tiny is.

One thing that seemed out of whack with the economy of having a tiny or small house built on a parcel of land, was that the economy of scale was completely ignored in making a building decision. Let's say some young couple is able to afford to build a 600 sq. ft. house on a piece of property they own. Because the house still needs a foundation, a roof, electrical, heat, a kitchen with appliances, a washer/dryer, etc. the cost per square foot is going to be exceedingly high. However, if they elected to build a 900 sq. foot house, the cost per square foot would be drastically reduced, meaning more bang for the buck.

That might not be what these folks want if they are electing a life style that means trying to live in a tiny house with a kid or two. If you looks a pictures from those people who have built these houses, the places look awkward, messy (especially in the kitchen where storage is at a premium) - it's the kind of place that if you toss your coat on the couch, the place looks a mess.

Personally, they have poor resale value - people want to have space to breathe and not have to live is such close proximity to another - even if it's just a couple tying to live there. Yes, tiny houses will be cheaper to heat - cheaper electric bills and such, but we're talking about "living there" not just "staying there."

Is the tiny house all about our "carbon footprint" or something along those lines - and there are idealists who don't mind paying a whole lot more per sq. foot so they can live guilt free? I don't get it. Some of the photos of the tiny houses might be double the size of a prison cell.

Personally, with some exceptions (when the pics show places 800 to say 1000 sq. ft) the tiny house "movement" offers cramped quarters for premium dollars - poor resale value (assuming it's on a foundation and not a glorified camper) - ignores the "economy of scale" when making a buying decision, and requires an idealistic person who is often times a reflection of the "hippie" days of the 1960's and 70's which was an era of peace, flower power and everything was groovy. Back then they had communes - today they have tiny houses. This is just my opinion of course. People are going to do what they want to do.

The thing you leave out when you talk about the "economy of scale" is that it is essentially a gimmick devised be the building industry. You same logic could be used to say, "Why not build a 20,000 sf house rather than a 2,000 st house because your cost per sq ft is going to be much less." You see, that's NOT THE POINT when deciding on house size, or at least it shouldn't be. Also, you don't mention heating, cooling, and maintenance of the home. Given similar efficiency, the small house is ALWAYS going to be cheaper over the years. For me, it's about what I prefer, of course, but it is also about what I need. I don't need a huge house and I don't want one. On the other hand, super tiny is not what I want either. I loved the early designs by Jay Shafer--his Loring, Whidby, Enesti, etc. They were what typical homes used to be at one time, and to me, the most reasonable choice for my desires and need--they ranged from around 300 sf up to 800 sf. At one time, 800 sf was pretty typical (tract homes in the 30s and 40s were often somewhere in that range). Ultimately, though, do not give me the nonsense about "economy of scale." Folks who spout that are simply trying to justify living in a hotel, driving a school bus, and drinking from a 50 gal barrel. It's nonsense. It's your choice and you are free to do it, but I'm also free to call it nonsense... because for me it is total nonsense.

As every tiny house is built specifically for each home owner, so too are their needs and yes wants! I worked hard and long and I have wants. Going tiny ensures that I can meet my wants as well as my needs. Too many of the hard core tiny housers sit in judgement of anyone who doesn't hold the very same views of minimalist. Sure, I get a little miffy when I see a decked out tiny house selling for 70 to 90 thousand. I mean really , people with that kind of cash can do it. But, it seems as though those people have driven up the price of the houses. The only way to get one now is to do it yourself. Something I can't do right now.

Thankyou-thankyou-thankyou! I got interested in tiny houses not to be part of some "movement," but because I want a tiny structure to supplement the smallish house I already live in. Everybody's situation is unique; in my case, living in a tiny house would not work because I need room in my home to provide sanctuary for unwanted and neglected pet parrots, whose well-being is much more important to me than the idea of conforming to someone else's concept of "soul." (My tiny house would be a music studio.) I like good design but don't need all the bells-and-whistles to impress other people. At the same time, it's fine with me if others want that stuff. Can we just live our lives without being dissected? For whatever reason, we all like to "think small" --- can we just leave it at that? It's unfortunate that some insist on making this a movement and winnowing it down to the purest of the pure.

Now, as handy designers, they created objects of beauty, and from the outside, that's all people see. It is appealing. People LIKE doll houses! But the hardest thing to fit into these small spaces is the human mind. You have to start there... you have to build your mind into the space, as you build it. It is a process. You're re-tooling your mind... so that when the time comes to be in the space, you are prepared. In the end, it is making sure that you "feel right" in the space, moment by moment. Nothing else matters in the end (minus your physical safety).

Definitely agree. I am pursuing a tiny house because (1) I feel that have found a home-buying option that can truly become a reality for me & others like me- working class + not the best credit, (2) I feel tiny house living will allow me to make a greater impact in my environmental-consciousness, (3) I feel, with the nature of the society we currently live in, tiny house living will allow me to live simply & increase my knowledge in living frugally with little modern invention

& self-sufficiently in a way that gives me skills that would be helpful as a survivalist, & (4), ultimately, I feel it will encourage me to enjoy each moment of the life I have been given versus always hustling & bustling towards the next big thing, reduce my overall stress levels, & give me more freedom. I do think it is important to embrace the foundation of this movement & to stay cognizant of it through your journey. This entire movement will make for a better world if people can stay true to it.

Sherrill,

My tiny house is in Candler. It's complete and really comfortable. I have been told by other Tiny builders that it's underpriced. It is for sale, but without financing.

Having said that, I wonder why anyone who could have a secure and finished place would want to face a learning curve that will go on for years, not months unless they simply wanted to engage in the building process and actually had another place to live while doing it. Personally, I like building and have done related things (design, contracting, technical editing, etc.) for many years. I prefer tiny house design/building because it's pretty quick and you can see results, good or bad, and correct or enhance as you go. There are sad stories on the net of people hiring homebuilders to do their tiny house and the project going sour. They're always one-sided and usually told from the viewpoint of the mistreated client and the bad old builder. (Of course, those stories aren't limited to tiny houses and crooks are found on both sides of the contract, and often the story tellers have hidden agendas.) I think clients who are stepping into the marketplace for the first time have trepidation and often mistrust of their own decisions which they project to nit-pick experienced contractors. Conversely, there are skilled people with good intentions who make mistakes, and crooks, as well as unskilled people who try to manipulate and cheat builders. But by carefully reading the accounts, you learn how much effort is involved and how subtle some flaws can be. The novice owner/builder of a tiny house on a trailer is really jumping off into the deep end of the pool without a swim ring. With dedication and endurance, she/he will make it out at the end of the swim with spirit intact and use the lessons learned. But I think if a person is inexperienced, infirm, elderly, poor, or has no tools, it is a bad idea to undertake a self-built THOW. 17dc91bb1f