Last update 21 07 2023
Did som adjustments in the settings , see below in discription.
Battery ONLINE Since 17 03 2022
Total energy from battery 6143 kWh Profits Aprox = € 2211 €
Actual enegry prices 2024 +/- 0.36kwh
Costs for the project !
= 5025 € For detail click here
Battery Stats
27 03 2024
Cycle Times 257Energy from batt 4346 KWH01 03 2023
Cycle Times 218Energy from batt 2185 KWHThe reason for this project is simple, Electricity prices are getting higher and higher everyday !
My budget for this project is about 5000€
On this site i'll update every status of my project !
LTO Batteries (Lithium Titanate Oxide )
i used de Yilon LTO 30Ah cell, Why Simple LTO cells have a cyclus from 25.000. other cheap LifoPO4 cells wil only work 6.000 times. But they are much Cheaper !
Check out the advantage of these cells on this video LTO cells are the most save cells on the market at this time !
LTO cell wil good perform with very low temp -20°C and +65°C
Charging time for these cells = 10 minutes normal and 6 minutes Rapid Charge !! (20A current needed) !!!!
SMART BMS (24s 250A) i'll explain this later
This is a device that wil control and regulate and protect every cell in you battery combination
Active balancer
This device is needed to keep al your cels on an equal voltage, for the best performance of your battery pack !
Hybride solar inverter
Growatt hybride inverter SPH5000 1-fase (On my solar system at this moment i have a SunnyBoy 5000 TL this must be replaced ! )
Some bold and nuts and some cable to connect everything
Batteries !
LTO batteries are the cheapest at ALIBABA.COM, after some communication with sellers i'got a good deal for 120pc/30ah. if you look at Ali-express they are way to expensive !
3050 Dollars for 120 pieces including door to door delivery and vat.
Price for batteries = 2756€
Invertor !
GroWatt Hybride inverter SPH5000 1-fase, i order this form a Dutch compagnie, they where even cheaper than Ali.
Growatt ShineWifi-S for commincation with my cellphone and monitor al the settings from the invertor
My price for invertor = 1560€
I found this on Ali-Express, but this is for LifoPo4 cells, i contact the reseller and he assured me that this will work !
And in the description i found this
I'm gonna contact my college at work (who also made a LTO Diy battery) to discus this BMS. and then i'm gonna make my decision !
Battery data from inverter
So at this moment the best solution will be 22s or 23s, this wil mean 5 parallel batteries and 22 or 23 of these in serie, which will result in 7.59 Kwh or 7.935. We will see the best solution when we are mounting the project ! So finnaly i need 115 of 110 cells !
You 'll also need a balancer above your BMS !! BecauseActive balancer can balance with higher current !
Also i did some further research for de Balancer. Stil nog shure to use a Active or Passive Balancer
Interesting video about Active balancer en Passive balancer
This will be te BMS or the one i show you above i'm gonna to one of thes ! i'll order it in a few days !
I let you know whats is gonna be !
Some more education about BMS and Activators, still a bit confused of what i w'll gonna buy .
Today i made the final desicion, these are the next things that i bought for the project !
Smart BMS 217.18€
Bluetooth RS485 and NTC module 47.21€
Smart BMS Cooling fan 80.26€
Total BMS 264.02 € I got some black Friday deals !
How to connect the BMS and the Balancer, you can put the balancer parralel over the BMS !
Now i got some power from my solar panels but i don't think this is correct, perhaps i need more sun !! I'll wait a few days !
Here I found some nice 3D STL file for a nice holder.
Some Calculation 110 Cels 2 designs each Cell So i need to print 220 pieces.
So i need 616 hours to complete printing al te cells and i'll need about 1.100 meters of PLA and that wil be 3.3Kg
So i need to do some investment 4* 19 € for 4 Rolls of PLA fillament ! So i need 76€ to do this.
Every battery string will be 5 batteries in parralel , so i have 5 time's 30Ah so i'll get my 150Ah !!
Also Yesterday I had contact with Growatt about some problems with my inverter (see above 17 12), they have upgraded the firmware, now i have to wait for more sun to test it !
Here are some links about the strange things from my invertor !
Bad luck Inverter need to be replaced, but it is a warranty thing, i have to wait a few weeks for a new inverter, so we keep in touch, for a few days i'm gonna put back my SMA for a few weeks !
Meanwhile stil Printing !!!
The Smart BMS will not directly connect to my Growatt inverter. On this link i foud some stuf to try to emulate the protocol with an RP 3
Mail say that the Shipment is complete, but i haven't receive anything yet ? And tracking number by UPS Says Ticket needs to be made !
Hope i get my goods in a few days !
Contact Ali-Baba for some information about the mails i got, cell's are arived at by coutry, the cell's are at custom Declearion ! Meanwhile i've changed the Growatt Inverter with my old SMA i made some adaptor cables , i still didn't received my new inverter !
I got some tracking information from my battery supplier, when i do some calculation more than 27.854 km ! from China to Belgium !
Delevery time for new Inverter till 4 months !!! So still waiting !!
Info about the Growatt Password ! Year Month Day = Password for Growatt
i also get a call from China from Ali-baba, they will arrange a compensation for the delay, i will gett about 200$ back !! What a service !!!
As you can see de Diff voltage is 0.040V this is ok for the first time, without any balancing !
Result at start up Balancer
Result after 3h39 , one more day i guess !
I've created a smal video of mounting the LTO cells !
The BMS will not connect to my growatt inverter so i've setup the growatt inverter "Lead Cells", dont forget to connect the temp sensor or it wil not work !
(This will be a next project to create a device to convert the BMS protocoll !)
String 2 Act weird !
I've checked the Nuts and a few where not fast enough, After Fixing this is looks ok !
Today I also got the battery fulled charged ! The reason in the curve was the error with the BMS voltage ! At 15h it was fixed.
I'll do some more testing you'll see more results in the next days !
Now the battery is online for more than 10 days ! Capacity of tha battery is about 8.5Kw .
Sometimes de BMS wont start up again when the SOC went to low ! Balancing is working fine , some screen shots of the BMS and balance, full parrameter detail will follow af more test days
Some screenshot from my growatt inverter, Whem the battery is fully charged the sun shine's all day ! (output from inverter)
Ballancer will always work ! And the balancing current is about 4A, this is also the reason for an extra active balancer ! Because the Balancing current of the DALY BMS is to low to do the job good !
Because my Top BMS will not communicate with the BMS input of the Growatt inverter ! I used this settings to make te battery work !
BMS protocol from Top BMS is not supported by Growatt !
If i move al over the Busbar you see almost the same, so the connection looks alright !
All the sensors are connected to Wemos D1, and so i can see all the temps in my Domoticz system. (more info about this project you'll find it out here )
Today i also find out how to connect the BMS to an ESP32wroom module ! i'll create a seperated project for this later !
I found some stuf to connect my growat inverter to my Domoticz system
https://github.com/jkairys/growatt-esp8266
As you can see only the fuse's nd the cable gets a little warm, if you see the details. You'll find out that the temp is Max 24.3° ! And this after charging more than 2 hours at 70 Amps, everyting looks ok.
(So i can park my car back into my garage ! )
So first i have to disassamble the battery, because i'm not Rambo, the whole battery weight more than 120 kg !
Where i'm gonna fix the BMS and Balancer ?
Battery is on place but now i have to clean up the spiderweb, I also decided to remove the fuses in each string !
There where no fixations on the balancer so i had to print some 3D holders
This looks OK for me, time to finish it !
The final result ! The battery is not standing in the way anymore !!
From Battery 629.8kWh * 0.265€ (My price at tha moment from ECO-Power) My profit 167€ for the first 3 month's, Not a big thing, but it's a beginning
Exported to Grid 744.9kWh energy i receive 0.065€/Kwh I will receive 48 € back for this
Import From Grid 308 * 0.265€ 81€
Charging at 3000W !
Due to some problems BMS powered down when battery was empty, and not always turned back on, so i had to push the on button from the BMS, but when i'm not at home !?
The BMS went down when the voltage was apox 44 volt, bij canging the LV workmode to 45 volt, the Inverter will stop taking power from the Battery, but the battery stays online !!
30 12 2023 Battery won't power up ! Total voltage to low !!
With a car battery charger diff charges done to get min voltage back up high ! Why the voltage got till 41.5V i don't know, settings are 44 volt lowest voltage !!