In a rated game at the club generally the game will be evenly fought until one player gains an advantage then 9 out of 10 times he follows that advantage through to a win, with the standard of play being consistent throughout the game.

On here, frequently play people who are clearly devoid of any positional skill but when they start to lose play like tactical grandmasters who tactic their way out of trouble and go on to win the game.


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Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.

What you're really saying is that online there is the opportunity to cheat with an engine that doesn't occur during a OTB game unless the person goes to the lavatory frequently between moves or is getting signals from an observer.

AnhVanT wrote:Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.

Random openings can also be used to confuse players in order for them to lose their focus and blunder in the game. They also could be a transposition from one opening to another in the form of a random opening. Also, they (probably) improve our thinking skills. So, random openings aren't bad.

I played my first ever proper OTB tourney (5 min blitz) last evening against a bunch of regular club players. I got absolutely trashed, including by two little girls. But several people told me the best way to improve is to join a club and play club chess and learn from the people around you. They said online chess helps your improvement less and it is also full of people using engines.

Random openings with strategical purposes are good! But, play 1100-1300, you will see. They make random move and out of the book as soon as move 4. I am learning chess not to beat those guys. I am learning chess to beat people at the club and maybe, get some scholarship in my college. So, no thanks, no online chess

When I play against someone use such a dubious opening, I get upset. LOL, I don't know why but 1...e5 2...Qh4 get me really mad. I just go all out to chase for that lady and get blunders. LOL, I don't know but that kind of opening violation cannot keep me calm!

I would recommend that instead of getting worked up about openings you think are unconventional, just keep calm and destroy them. If unconventional openings are troubling you, then put them in analysis and see where you are going wrong and learn from it.

@Nc3always On this site, for a lot of people, when you look at their blitz, bullet, standard, or daily, you usually see something not so impressive (like me). But when you look at their tactics rating, the ratings are much higher. This indicates that people who play here are mostly sharp but with no positional skill (unlike me, I have no tactics and no positional skill).

People just want to win. Bottom line. Nobody likes a loser. People cheat in every other game on the internet, people download hacks, glitching, code etc to guarantee a win. They don't care about gaining real skill against live opponents in person. They want to win. Your personality type that draws you to competitive games has allot to do with it. Chess players are highly competitive, chess players hate losing. So if they can get away with cheating, they will. Look at physical sports, and people use steroids etc. Everyone wants an advantage, a fix in the game. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Chess.com can keep banning accounts left and right, and these people will just make another one, and be back to sabotage the chess.com servers again. It's a losing battle. I hate losing to cheaters, but it is what it is. The only legit games are in person OTB. There is too much temptation to cheat online. So just expect it, and play on. My 2 cents.

Honestly, for me, sudden brilliance after a bad start, as well as the reverse, seems to be the norm. I play my games on another site now, where I regularly lose games where I have an advantage going into the late middlegame, or even the endgame, but also often end up winning games where at one point I considered resigning.

Chess.com is the only chess I can get. It's not perfect but it is very good. I find I get conditioned by looking at all the facilities in chess.com where I just make auto responses and seem to lose the capacity to think. This happens in games and I find myself down in a game. Then I start to think and usually retrieve the situation to a degree and give a better game or sometimes win. Unless I'm bored I stay away from live chess and play daily stuff. I've started entering matches and tournaments and it gives a better discipline.

If I am playing a 30 minute game, is it cheating if I have an actual chess set with me and copy the moves that are happening online? I usually make less mistakes if I play on an actual board instead of on the screen, so before I do that I wanted to make sure it is okay to do that.

It is not allowed. You would be able to move pieces on a real board and thus you would be able to easily see the state of the board when you calculate moves that hasn't happened yet, instead of using your visualization skill.


In daily chess, it would be ok, because you actually get such a board as a tool.


But not in live play.

Using a board when you play a live game online is not cheating ( some people see better in 3d vs 2d ). Physically moving the pieces around to try different combinations on the board in planning/analysis/calculation/strategizing what you are planning to do/execute in your live online game is cheating ( as in a honest game cannot do this and would need to mentally calculate/visualize ).

I've done it, just because sometimes I like moving the physical pieces around. I would say that it's cheating if, as #5 said, you're moving pieces around to analyze a variation instead of visualizing the moves. But my understanding is that it's not cheating if you just set up the board and play with it in parallel with what you're playing online.

If you are using diagramming on your online board during a live game to map out potential moves/calculation etc this is also cheating. Remember, just because the platform has not blocked you using features doing so does not make using those features during a game honest.

We can all have an idea of what is honest, etc. I use neither the arrows or the legal moves feature because it just seems silly to me and part of the attraction is exercising my ability to visualize, but given it is built into the software with literally no other purpose I have a hard time seeing it as cheating.

I agree with this. I get a grasp of a position much faster looking at a real board and pieces than working with an on-line diagram and blunder much less. But I don't do it because, in a time limited game the extra time it takes to duplicate the moves on the physical board becomes a severe handicap when the time pressure starts.

Chess. com has openly admitted using a real board is considered outside help. And thus, is not allowed. However, when called out on it they revised their position. Chess.com claims they want to promote the real chess experience as much as possible, which obviously would include using a real board. So when they realized they are contradicting themselves, they reluctantly admitted using a real board is ok to do. 152ee80cbc

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