I'm rather surprised to see no mention of Color Management in either the forum or the application help files & tutorials. Since I work with mainly photos in the AdobeRGB color space, Paint.net is useless to me at present. Is it really meant to be a paint program, or a photo editor? Are there any plans for supporting color management?
Can you please define 'colour management'? We have Hue/Saturation, Curves (and Curves+ available in the Plugins forum), numerous colour altering plugins available, at the most basic level the More >> command on the Colour Window which gives you precise control over the RGB/HSV of for each colour, and finally the ability to import and/or create your own colour palettes.
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Although it is designed as an photo editor you can see that many, and close to all, members have expanded upon the original outline and have been creating images from scratch, mostly with the aid of additional plugins. So, PDN is a bit of both, though officially labelled a photo editor.
Colo(u)r Management is effectively the process whereby the colours values in an image can be used to produce consistent output on a variety of devices - monitors, printers, etc. If you don't know about it, it may come as a shock that the RGB values in a digital image can only be interpreted in relation to a given standard colour space. The default assumption made by Windows (and non colour managed applications like Internet Explorer) is to treat all images as being in the sRGB colour space, and whilst this may well be true for many digital camera images, its actually a quite limiting space that offers a very small range of colours from the total theoretically possible. Many photographers choose to work in a wider gamut space like AdobeRGB, which means their images look washed out when viewed in a non colour-managed application like Paint.Net.
Yes, that was a quote. Besides, it says "It's like a free Photoshop" - which is to say that it isn't, and doesn't offer professional features. Please don't confuse marketing in the form of quotes for official endorsement or product claims.
That's unfortunate. PDN offers a lot in a small easy to use package. It's very versatile (as you can see from the tutorial section). Honestly it is your lost for not giving it a try because it does not do something it was never intended to do. It was a pleasure having you here while it lasted. Either way though, best of luck to you and your ventures.
* "Most" refers to people not needing imaging/photo manipulation at the professional level. If you are employed for, or making money for this type of stuff ... really you should get Photoshop. For a business, it's fairly cheap when considered against someone's yearly salary or income.
Yes, thank you bschaldon for the explanation on colour management. I had done some research on the matter after I had posted what I did and quickly realised my mistake, by which time some time had past and numerous views on the topic so I did not edit it.
brian I think you missed the whole point to Paint.NET. Paint.NET was a project that Rick keeped going. If anything it replaces the MS Paint more then a $600 image program like Adobe Photoshop. geez what do you think brian it could be a long time for Rick and Plugin makers to be able to do all the programing needed to make it as good as Photoshop. There not getting paid to do this you know, they do it for the plubic on there own time. Yet you come in here and are dising it because it not as devloped as a image editor that been around for years !
I am sorry it can't do what you want but if you really think it should then why not do what everyone else is doing ? Why not add to the program / make a plugin or find another way to do it and let everyone else know.
I'm not a professional photographer (yet!), just an enthusiastic amateur, and I don't have the money for the latest version of Photoshop. But there is no place on my desktop for an unmanaged application - free or otherwise - it just won't work - its not a matter of taste or missing functionality that you can work around, but a core feature of a photo editor.
bschaldon, just make sure to check back every few months. Paint.NET is an ongoing effort and a lot of the feature work is based on user feedback. Version 3 was an enormous release in terms of critical features, and eventually version 4 will come out with the same level of aplomb.
I have been moving toward Ubuntu from a long time Windows development background. The one program I cannot seem to do without is a graphic editor. I have seen recommendations for programs, but they turn out to be directed at children or tailored to working with personal photographs.
I am looking for something more for programming tasks like analysing colors, resizing, creating web graphics, etc. I have used Photoshop in the past and more recently have mostly used Paint.net for Windows.
As others have said GIMP is an excellent graphics program. I personally have not had any problems with the interface - I find it pretty intuitive. It is one of the featured applications in the Ubuntu Software Centre.
For creating web graphics, Inkscape (also a featured app) may be a better tool. It creates files in SVG format and can export to the usual .png, .jpg, .bmp etc. SVGs are good because they are scalable, so don't deform when resized. They also have the ability to be interactive using Javascript. SVG is a web standard.
Specifically for the 'programming' side of things you could use ImageMagick. It has a command line interface and also has bindings to many popular languages (including C, C++, perl, python, ruby, java). The ImageMagick program and its various language bindings are available from the software repositories.
The only real issue interface wise is GIMP is not PhotoShop. So if you learned where things are in PS then GIMP will be a bit frustrating at first. Of course there are some folks who do there best to make GIMP like PS, like GimpShop (discontinued).
Picasa3 is a useful photo-management-program with some basic features (clipping, red-eye-removal, changing color-ratio, ...). Most of the people I know are happy with Picasa. I primarily use Gimp and use Picasa afterwards to upload the photos (sharing, printing, saving)
Or, you could just go on line to and use it for free without any download or installation. It will open your psd with layers, and has most of the same effects. Deal-breakers for me are no rulers or guides, and canvas size in pixels only, no option in inches, so not good for printing exact sizes.
GIMP should be the answer for both paint.net and Adobe Photoshop. I have been using GNU/Linux since 2002 and i am a professional photographer and graphic designer and i know the importance of Adobe Photoshop. I should say that more than 95% of what you can do in photoshop can be done in GIMP. This is your best alternative. Don't worry about the user interface, once you get used to it, you will become super-productive.
Paint.NET (sometimes stylized as paint.net) is a freeware general-purpose raster graphics editor program for Microsoft Windows, developed with the .NET platform. Paint.NET was originally created by Rick Brewster as a Washington State University student project,[3] and has evolved from a simple replacement for the Microsoft Paint program into a program for editing mainly graphics, with support for plugins.
Paint.NET originated as a computer science senior design project during spring 2004 at Washington State University. Version 1.0 consisted of 36,000 lines of code and was written in fifteen weeks.[4] In contrast, version 3.35 has approximately 162,000 lines of code. The Paint.NET project continued over the summer and into the autumn 2004 semester for both the version 1.1 and 2.0 releases.
Development continues with one programmer who worked on previous versions of Paint.NET while he was a student at WSU. As of May 2006 the program had been downloaded at least 2 million times,[5] at a rate of about 180,000 per month.[6]
Initially, Paint.NET was released under a modified version of the MIT License, with the exclusion of the installer, text, and graphics.[7] However, citing issues with the open source code being plagiarized by others that had rebranded the software as their own and bundled user content without their permission, the availability of the source code was restricted, in December 2007 Brewster announced his intent to restrict access to components of the program (including its installer, resources, and user interface).[8] In November 2009, the software was made proprietary, restricting the sale or creation of derivative works of the software.[8][9]
Starting with version 4.0.18, Paint.NET is published in two editions: A classic edition remains freeware, similar to all other versions since 3.5. Another edition, however, is published to Microsoft Store under a trialware license and is available to purchase for US$7. According to the developer, this was done to enable the users to contribute to the development with more convenience, even though the old avenue of donation was not closed.[10][11]
Paint.net is primarily programmed in the C# programming language. Its native image format, .PDN, is a compressed representation of the application's internal object format, which preserves layering and other information.[12]
Paint.net supports plugins, which add image adjustments, effects, and support for additional file types. They can be programmed using any .NET Framework programming language, though they are most commonly written in C#.[13] These are created by volunteer coders on the program's discussion board, the Paint.NET Forum. Though most are simply published via the discussion board, some have been included with a later release of the program. For instance, a DirectDraw Surface file type plugin, (originally by Dean Ashton) and an Ink Sketch and Soften Portrait effect (originally by David Issel) were added to Paint.net in version 3.10.[citation needed]
Hundreds of plugins have been produced;[14] such as Shape3D, which renders a 2D drawing into a 3D shape. Some plugins expand on the functionality that comes with Paint.net, such as Curves+ and Sharpen+, which extend the included tools Curves and Sharpen, respectively.[citation needed] 152ee80cbc
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