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Couldn't agree with you more. I work at concerts and therefor I'm in the luxury position of watching every show. I use a compact to take shots during te show from an audience position, bc we are not allowed to use professional gear (just like the audience) and photographing backstage or from a backstage position is out of the question. Every show I see the pro's guided into the pit (or indeed sometimes the FOH) and taken out after 3 songs or a certain short time limit. Funny enough I never wondered why this 3 song rule was ever made or where it originated. Until recently a new working partner asked me the question. When I started googling, the only thing i could find was indeed the Springsteen story. I could understand the cause, but what I don't understand is that in more then 30 years the rule has never been revised or changed while a lot has changed in photography, and I wonder how this rule became a worldwide standard at nearly every concert (except maybe festivals). In my opinion it doesn't hurt the band , the audience or whoever and indeed, shows and artists are rarely at their best at the beginning. And the audience is allowed to take shots during the whole show anyway (except with a few artists). I understand very well the frustration of photographers, but i wonder where to start a change. As far as I know there is not one organisation who authorises all concerts and artists. Maybe Bruce?

Concert photographer that is working for a news papers ( or any other media) that goes to the concert to take some images that go with the text on the news, and for this 3 songs is enough for getting the job done.

as i see it, i really believe that the media photographer are ok with the 3 song rules,having them for more then 3 songs cam be distracting for the audience and for the bands, having a few photographer running on the PIT can be really annoying.

The ones that go there to make image for facebook and to give them for free, well they shouldn't be allowed at the pit, they are not ready yet...

As i see it the 3 song rule is fine, but i think that it will be over soon...the way i see it band will tent to only allow the bands photograther, and make the images available for the Media, or they only allow the media to shoot one song or only form the sound stage...

If you only allow photogs to shoot for one song or from the sound stage, what will result is a small selection of photos- and for a band, run the risk of photogs posting bad or unflattering photos because they didn't have the extra songs to get better shots.

The one problem i have with photographers who shoot a band and then sells photographs- the band doesn't see any money from it. It's like you are in a band, and you let someone record a song you sing at your show and they then later sell that live song on their web page for money- and you as the band, don't see any money from the sales of that live song. In a way, isn't both examples the same thing as not benefiting the band, only the person who records it?

I think we must be happy if we can shoot three songs from the pit at all. In the meanwhile I shot concerts from almost anywhere. Only one song only from right side (Brian Adams, Neil Young) or from FOH or even from the very end of the arena (Rihanna) or from the side of the stands.

And then there are bands who allow you to shoot frist three songs from the pit and then you can shoot away outside the pit taking care of the audience. And we have one famous rocker here in Germany who allows you the first three songs and the last eight! songs from the pit. At least lots of cool photos of him (Udo Lindenberg). And then there is Bob Dylan...

Could also talk about Nena who obviously hate photogs. She let take you photos from anywhere (one song) and then switiching off most of the lights or direct the lights in direction of the photogs. So at least I like more the way Bob does: No photogs at all.

Of all the shows i've shot, only one had a rule that only the last 3 songs could be shot, a British band called Foals. I found out from a photog who shot them a few days prior that the singer would hop the barricade on the final song, jump in to the crowd, and let them hoist him up in the air as he sang (which he would do at every show). I also caught their guitarist throwing his guitar off the stage into the bushes, so of course, all the photogs got great photos, which only serves to make the band look that much better when the photos get posted.

I've never experienced a security problem when I've been allowed to stay in the pit longer than three songs, and that includes some pretty wild punk shows. I have been pushed around when surfers come over the barricade, but security never seemed to view me, or any other photographer as a security problem. And I've run into very few tour photographers in the pit. I occasionally see people shooting in the wings on stage but I think they're often friends of the band or crew. And for the most recent Jeff Beck tour, the tour photographer came over to tell all two of us we could shoot the whole show, which surprised the promoter who was walking us out at the time.

I find the comment about costume changes to be one of the best points in the original article, I shot Grace Jones last year and she changed parts of her outfit for every song, which meant missing a lot of costume changes. (On the other hand, she intentionally gave me some excellent shots.) There's also the point that the best visuals are typically in the first song and the last three or four, bands try to slam it up front and then pump up the crowd towards the end.

I see both points. I believe having a full team of photographers in the pit for a whole concert can be very distracting for the performers. Not to mention the logistics nightmare that would mean to have them enter by the end of the show. I also think the best part of the show is mostly by the end of it. I have managed to sneak my camera into the public and take awesome photos that no one else has. I also work as part of the staff for a local three-day festival and undoubtedly having an all-access pass and less rules makes the job a lot more fun.

I can see this from a fan's perspective. Who wants to pay for a front row seat only to be stuck behind a mob of photographers for the whole concert? The solution seems easy to me: have the photographers do their 3-song set in the middle of the show.

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You might have heard of the three song rule. First three songs, no flash! But what exactly is the three song rule? Who came up with the concept and what can you do as concert photographer to make the photo pit experience a great one.

The rule of a time limit was introduced by giving photographers 15 minutes at a time. As with most songs being approximately 5 minutes or less, it was decided that they should only be allowed to photograph the first three songs. The band then could continue with their performance without the hindrance, annoyance, or distraction of concert photographers. Also, some musicians are very active on stage, so they wanted to get captured at their best, rather than sweaty or tired.

The rules are simple and MUST be followed or you may be thrown out of the venue. When you are provided a press accreditation (photo pass) for an event to shoot in a photo pit, you already know you are only allowed the first thee songs for each performance. There are exceptions to the rules, but this is only given in special circumstances e.g when working directly with bands to shoot the whole concert.

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