Regarding memrise and chinese, well I used almost one year memrise to learn chinese, it is quite interesting and easy to catch the new information via memrise strategy of learning foreign language.

However, after some time I found out a more practicable site that seems for me ONE of the most perfect and recommended and useful to learn chinese - www.fluentu.com/

Thanks for sharing the link. I have been using duolingo.com for spanish for a while, and it seems very good to me. Even though you don't learn a lot from such things, you learn a bit. I read about how you learned polish, it's amazing. I wish I was able to put in the same effort for learning spanish, then polish and then probably russian. I see memrise.com has basic polish, so I will try that when I got some time. Thanks!


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There's a website called memrise for memorizing English words form various English books, like 504 essential words, 3500 for GRE, etc (I don't know you're familiar with or not). I want to broaden my English words domain, however I'm in doubt whether its approach for memorizing and subsequently the ability for using them in real speaking or writing, is a good approach or not. If you're already not familiar with this website I'll shortly introduce its manner for memorizing words.

According to research by Paul Nation, a renowned linguist, the best way to memorize words in any language is to learn in real context. You will soon forget what you've memorized by merely repeating their definitions. If you're not well motivated, stop using memrise or any software that are designed to "boost your memory." Instead, get some reading materials that contain the words you need to learn, and start to understand their meaning in context.

I decided to give memrise a try, using especially to "memorize" or learn some Middle English vocabulary, since I am reading Chaucer these days. As in most these programs, one can create one's own "flash cards." I made certain to create some that used example sentences for each tested word. Because I am firm believer that words are best learned and retained if used in a sentence. This goes even further, when I then come across a tested word in a text that I read in my free time, so then I get the benefit of seeing the word in two meaningful sentences; and as far as I am concerned, that locks it up into my long term memory. And since I am continuing to read Chaucer and other authors who write in Middle English, then I expect to see these words repeated again (and again).

To my surprise, there are actually a handful of existing memrise "courses" designed to "teach" Middle English vocabulary (and also some in Old English). Some have sample sentences as part of their design. Most do not. You can guess which ones I appreciate and learn from the best. But even one particular course, which is "straight" learning of new words with no sample sentences: I noticed that words in memrise that I had encountered recently in my own reading were much easier to learn using memrise. And I'm sure they will stick in my memory longer, because of my encounter with them in my recent reading.

As I said, I think it can be used for learning words for a set task, like a vocabulary test or the GRE. But if one wants to use it for much more than that, one absolutely must incorporate some kind of context (example sentences, preferably **meaningful* example sentences, which would include those read from a text) into the design of one's memrise flashcards (or the flashcards of whatever SRS software one is using). I just call them flashcards, because these programs incorporate the equivalent of electronic flashcards.

An excellent article, How to Remember Words When Learning a Language, I highly recommend. It stresses the need for context, and it gives four methods of learning vocabulary, only one of which is SRS programs. Another one sounds similar to what rogermue is discussing. Also, in the comments to the article there are some insightful things, such as the experience of a young lady who memorized the 2000 most common Spanish words (without context) before she moved to Costa Rica. Did this memorization help her communication in Spanish with local Spanish speakers? Apparently not. Memorizing words is not a way to learn a language. It is way to increase one's vocabulary. Encountering words frequent times in real-world, meaningful contexts is the best way to go. Using an SRS software such as memrise can be a tool in that process. But so can regular handwritten flashcards, which also have the extreme advantage of having been written by one's own hand, thus incorporating tactile (manual) learning into the process.

I believe the great thing about memrise is that the flashcarding is much more motivating than at LingQ. In the end, however, the most useful thing I discovered through memrise is that I do not need the phrase part of the flashcard. I used to be insistent on it. But I now see that to sustain interest in flash cards means to do them at a fast pace. This rendered reading the phrase useless 99% of the time.

What I like about memrise is that its kinda like a mix of a SRS system + writing practice + multiple ways of testing. which In my opinion helps you retain the words faster than just a basic SRS system. 2351a5e196

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