Find The Invisible Cow

After the new update of Thunkable X, I am not able to find the invisible component for the firebase database. I have added the api key and database and i searched the toolbox of coding area image265821 12.9 KB but i was not able to find the invisible component i was looking for. Nearest i found the Sign In option with a firebase icon but i was not able to get the blocks i wanted. I am using the new drag and drop option in my app and my windows is windows 10. Please help me out

As the title suggests I have discovered a cheese method for finding invisible enemies. I don't particularly find invisible enemies hard to deal with but the trick could help in harder difficulties. Since you can't share space with enemies your pathing line won't let you go to said space. It will go up to or bend around them if you try to go through. This remains even when the enemy is invisible. So if you want to find where they are just move your pathing line around until you see it bend around a non existent object. After that you can just level that spot with some form of aoe to take them out of hiding. Works quite well if you don't care about metagaming or if you are on a higher difficulty where finding the enemy is more important than caring about an rp aspect.

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PS. I hope Larian can find away to patch this out so you are more reliant on the figuring it out yourself. But until then I'm sure there are people that would love to exploit this. Especially people who would rather not have to carry around an item to reveal certain enemies in mid to early late game,

The PC with scent has to spend a move action to determine the direction of the invisible creature. This is completely separate from movement. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) DM_Blake Feb 24, 2015, 12:33 pm Seems OK to me. It's what the Scent ability does. I can blindfold my dog and he'll still find me in a crowded room just fine.

Even better, he doesn't have to "run around the room" - once he is within 30' (60' if downwind) he can use a single move action to figure out the right direction and then pretty much move right to the invisible guy. Of course, this uses actions. A move action to determine direction, at least one more move action to actually move to the enemy - no actions left for attacking.

Don't forget, pinpointing the invisible guy's location doesn't mean he can see the guy - he's still invisible and still gets a 50% miss chance for having total concealment, even after your PC scents/pinpoints his exact square.

Woah there; "determine the direction" isn't even close to "knowing what square he's in". AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) Jeff Merola Feb 24, 2015, 01:00 pm Serum wrote: DM_Blake wrote: Even better, he doesn't have to "run around the room" - once he is within 30' (60' if downwind) he can use a single move action to figure out the right direction and then pretty much move right to the invisible guy. Of course, this uses actions. A move action to determine direction, at least one more move action to actually move to the enemy - no actions left for attacking.Woah there; "determine the direction" isn't even close to "knowing what square he's in". You're right, that's what getting within 5' of the target is for. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) DM_Blake Feb 24, 2015, 01:06 pm Serum wrote: DM_Blake wrote: Even better, he doesn't have to "run around the room" - once he is within 30' (60' if downwind) he can use a single move action to figure out the right direction and then pretty much move right to the invisible guy. Of course, this uses actions. A move action to determine direction, at least one more move action to actually move to the enemy - no actions left for attacking.Woah there; "determine the direction" isn't even close to "knowing what square he's in". I didn't say he would "know what square he's in" - not with the initial move action to determine direction.He would use a move action to determine direction. Then he could simply move in that direction - once he is within 5' he will pinpoint the square and stop moving.

I understand there is miss chances, but things like blindfight, seeking enchant, and other such negate that. Yes. If he uses a move action to move to where he guesses the enemy might be, or just move around randomly, then he MIGHT figure out where the invisible guy is. Or he might be wrong and use his entire move action without ever being within 5' of the invisible guy, in which case his action was wasted.If the area is small and the likelihood of luckily coming within 5' is high, this is a good idea. But if the area is large and running around randomly has a high chance of failing, then it might be better to use that move action to figure out the correct direction to the enemy.

Also by rule, it is impossible to use stealth while attacking, running, or charging. Therefore, while an invisible (assumed greater, whatever) creature attacks, it cannot have this bonus to stealth because stealth does not apply.

reality (whether or not it belongs is up to you)

Creatures with the basic 5 senses can pinpoint things aurally. Try it. Find a large room. Stand in the middle of it, blindfolded, and have people move around you. Have someone speak as if they were casting a spell. I know I could easily move over to them and find them with a decent "perception" check. /reality

A tactic for locating an invisible creature for a party could be everyone immediately holding and readying an action to move to or attack the square from which they hear sounds of the invisible creature when it attacks. This would eliminate the excess noise of combat interfering with the party's perception check to hear the invisible creature.

Break that one up and tell me why it doesn't or won't work. Because the perception DC is modified by Invisibility. In combat, it's a DC 40+Distance Perception check to pinpoint an invisible creature's location.

From the spell, invisibility (bold mine): "Of course, the subject is not magically silenced, and certain other conditions can render the recipient detectable (such as swimming in water or stepping in a puddle). If a check is required, a stationary invisible creature has a +40 bonus on its Stealth checks. This bonus is reduced to +20 if the creature is moving. The spell ends if the subject attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe."

If an (greater) invisible wizard is in combat, he does not receive the +20 stationary bonus (or it is negated by the -20 "in combat" penalty, whichever). That leaves the invisibility +20 bonus, plus stealth check. If he attacks or uses an attack spell, he cannot make a stealth check.

The rules already state that within 5' pinpointing an attacking invisible creature is automatic. The only way to prevent pinpointing the square is if the opponent attacks from reach or range. I'm saying that should be a maximum of a DC 20 perception check (+/- distance/conditions) since stealth can't apply and they are both "in combat" and attacking directly.

Then I guess you didn't click my link. No reference to the spell whatsoever.If you click it and read it over, you'll find that there is a base DC and a whole list of modifiers that have nothing to do with Stealth at all. If a creature does use Stealth, there's an entry on the table for it, but if not, you use the prescribed base DC and appropriate modifiers.

Read what's been linked. The issue you're talking about doesn't exist. There are set rules in place for Perception DCs without Stealth, with no reference to the spell. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) asthyril Jan 4, 2013, 02:42 pm also, detect magic will see the aura of the spell after 3 rounds of concentration (if the invisible opponent doesn'y leave the area in that time or is an enclosed area) allowing you to see the square he is in, even if it doesn't allow you to see them.

Yep - and if you'd read my original post about readying an action for the invisible creature's attack, you'd know that using stealth as a separate action after the attack isn't germane to the discussion.

As a skimmed other posts above, they are correct in that the most reliable way to locate an invisible creature is to wait for it to attack you. For that split second you know where it is, and if you are smart and held your action you can strike at it before it moves from its known location.

CRB Page 563: "... If an invisible creature strikes a character, the character struck knows the exact location of the creature that struck him ..." until it moves, and/or unless it has reach :D

Invisibility(Appendix1: special abilities) (CRB Page 563-564)

" ... creatures can be heard. smelled, or felt. ..."

" ... A creature can generally notice the presence of an active invisible creature within 30 feet with a DC 20 perception check"

" ... It's practically impossible(+20DC) to pinpoint an invisible creatures location with a perception check. ..."

The DC is going to vary slightly depending on how well you understand how to build a perception check, but don't worry about this to much. The point to make is, that the DC is +20 for being invisible. If they beat THAT dc by 20, then they also know the creatures exact location.(until it moves) 2351a5e196