wow! 1gypsysoul, great post you are on it , i was feeling so bad for victor, i forgot he faked his death before and he is the master manipulator, lol, you either love him or hate him, he is the master

 tmaxxx |Apr 16, 2006 06:57am |#2many moons ago i showed up on a large site wearing my tool belt backwards to the norm.(pockets in the rear). one day someone asked me why i wore it that way and i told him my pants buckle is in the front so why not my tool belt too. the truth is its way easier to move, bend, squish, climb and and when bent over the belt still hangs normal so its no problem to get into the pockets. 4 months later i left that job and a few guys had swithched theres around. my current crew all wear it that way too. i know its not the norm but it just seems way more comfortable.


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25' non-Fatmax in the middle; unscrew the belt clip to keep it from hanging up. Speedsquare in the left big pocket, flange on top, point toward the center, plus whatever else is job-appropriate, av snips, nail biters, cat's paw. Fasteners in front left. Stanley tool-less change utility knife in the front right, along with drywall screws. Right big pocket against me is for 16-20d nails.

Octagonal plumb bob with braided string wrapped around it in the little two-tiered pocket thingly to the right of the main right pocket. (2) Carpenter's pencils and (2) regular pencils in the flat pocket in front of that little pocket thingy.

Check out the designs by Occidental Leather . They make excellent framer bags. For righties, fasteners are in the bag on the left and tools in the bag on the right. They make leftie bags so everyone can have their way.

The Depot used to carry a knock off of the Occi Lights for about $80, but I don't see it any more. The bags they carry are nicley sewn but poorly designed. Check where the speed square pocket it. Even have one?

I try to keep things as light as possible. I carry a double pocket bag just to the right of my right thigh. and a single small nail pouch and a hammer loop on my left side. I have a razor knife, a plastic speed square, a 16 oz Japanese hammer with an ash handle, a16 foot Stanley, a couple of pencils and a chalk line. I carry a tool box a rotate a few task related necessities in and out of it as they are needed. To be honest I don't use it everyday anymore, because my work has changed over the years and now is mainly managerial. I used a regular apron for many, many years as a young man and wore it bags to the front and I think it has benefits both ways. I know I've lost many nails climbing on scaffold, but one benefit from wearing it aprons to the front is that it is protecitve and helps to hold a board for a minute when passing them up. I had to clean a years worth of caulking and glue of off them many times

here's how i have my belt set up: i have my pouch over my left hip, a holder for my tape right above my ####, a holder for my knife in between the right hip and right ####, and my hammer just off my right hip, closer to the thigh. whenever i add in a screwgun holster, i move the knife closer to the tape, and put the screwgun between the hammer and knife. i also add suspenders when carrying that much weight, so as to lighten to load on my hips.

Good stuff guys. I'm definitely going to try the bags on the back. I'd never considered the carrying the speed square but I do use one quite a bit so I'll have to find a place for it somewhere where my left hand can get to it.

Like you my tool belt is used at home, although when I got out of high school I was a framing helper for almost a year. At that time my belt was the standard at that time a leather two pouch with a tape pocket between, worn forwards, like everyone else did. The thing that I remember the most about that style was that it was always hanging up when I wanted to pass through the walls between the 16" spaced studs.When I got a new one 12 years ago I bought one with 3 pouches that are loose on the belt. I only put on the pouches that I need for the work that I want to do, and I can position them on the belt, front, back, or the best, sideways on the hip. That position makes it easier to climb a ladder, sit, squat, and pass between studs without the pouches getting caught up. (But now the stomach is starting to do the same.) The links are to some that are similar to the arrangement that I have. I don't have any cordless drills but threw in the drill holsters because everyone else does. =2&p=41741&cat=1,43413,45989&ap=1 =2&cat=1,43413&p=41737 =2&p=41742&cat=1,43413,45992&ap=1

Weighing 5 ounces, the Victor Trek rests easily in one hand. The face has three distinctly shaped buttons across the top, a 12-key telephone style key pad, and four keys at the bottom. Most keys have functions in both reader and GPS modes. A boldly raised and easily identifiable line runs across the face of the unit, separating the number keys from the four at the bottom. Immediately below that line is key that serves both as a time and date announcer and as a sleep timer. Below it are the rewind, play/stop, and fast forward keys. On the top edge are the SD card slot and 3.5 mm jack for headphones or an external speaker. The bottom edge holds the micro USB port, used both for powering the unit and attaching other storage devices holding content to be played or copied. The left edge has the power button and up/down volume keys (also used to adjust speed and tone.) The right-hand edge holds the record button. Plenty of tactile markings render it nearly impossible to press the wrong key or even fumble about to find the desired one. The three keys across the top are uniquely shaped and widely spaced. On the number pad, the 5 has two dots, and the edges of the 2, 4, 6, and 8 keys are marked with raised semi-circles. The four keys at the bottom of the front face are also shaped intuitively as left and right arrows, rectangular play/stop, and an oval button for the sleep timer.

As he came closer, defendant offered to help Ms. Mankin put her groceries in the house. She thanked him and refused. He nonetheless repeated himself two more times and the final time spoke in a tone of voice which indicated to Ms. Mankin that defendant "meant it." At his direction, each child then took a bag and brought it into the Mankin house. The children left, but defendant remained. Ms. Mankin observed that his eyes were "staring" and "glassy." When defendant did not respond to her requests to leave, Ms. Mankin took him by the shirt and led him out of her house. She returned inside, locking the door.

After a half hour, Victor decided to take defendant by motorcycle to his brother's home. Victor's cycle broke down on King Street, and Victor pushed it towards a gas station while defendant dismounted and started walking up the driveway of a nearby house. Victor called his wife from the gas station, asking her to come pick them up. He then began working on the motorcycle. Approximately 10 minutes later defendant walked up to him and told him "he killed  he just killed a man," and did it "like you do a goat." Victor did not believe defendant and continued his work. Victor refused to comply when defendant told him he had left two beer cans in the murdered man's house and asked Victor to retrieve them. Defendant then left, returning soon thereafter carrying a can of beer and a paper sack.

About 15 minutes later, Maruy arrived with Stinnett and they loaded the motorcycle in the back of the pickup. On the way back to the Cardovas', defendant told Stinnett "that he cut some man's head off" and that "he was the devil and a ride with him would be on top ...." When they arrived, Victor and defendant went into a bedroom where defendant produced several $20 bills, some pennies, and a small three-inch pocket knife. The Cardovas refused his offer of money.

Victor told defendant to leave and telephoned for a taxicab. Defendant continued "flipping out" and saying he was the devil. When no taxicab arrived, Victor drove defendant to a motel. The Cardovas then left without defendant. When Maruy returned home later that day, she discovered Mankin's checkbooks, a large number of pennies, and a 12-inch butcher knife with a broken handle, covered with coagulated blood, in her bedroom. Stinnett and Maruy washed off the knife and threw it into a nearby canal. Lisa Davis saw the remaining items the next day. She kept some of the pennies and later turned them over to the police. Meanwhile, on the night of the 13th, defendant returned to the Cardovas' and inquired about the knife. Victor told him not to worry about it but that the police were looking for him. [39 Cal. 3d 918]

The next day, the police contacted Victor. When he saw defendant later that day and asked if he knew what he had done, defendant nodded his head. Defendant then told Victor he was worried that he might have left fingerprints on the telephone. Soon thereafter Victor left California in order to avoid testifying. After he was arrested in Arizona as an accessory, he was returned to California where he was granted immunity in exchange for his testimony.

The victim, Gregorio Ante, was 78 years old and slightly disabled by a stroke. He lived with his wife on King Street, but was alone on the morning of January 13. About 11 a.m., Gregorio's son Henry arrived to help with some repairs. Henry's son and daughter-in-law, the Halls, arrived soon after to buy a piano from Gregorio whom they paid $200. He placed the money in his left shirt pocket. Once the piano had been loaded onto their truck, the Halls left.

Gregorio then gave Henry $20 to buy parts for a faucet he was fixing. Henry also noticed his father removing some money from his pants pocket. Henry left around 12:10 p.m., leaving the front door unlocked. As he departed, he noticed two men on a motorcycle in front of the house who watched as he drove off.

When the body was found, the left pocket of Gregorio's pants was pulled out, and $180 was found in his left front inner shirt pocket. In his bedroom, the mattress had been moved off the bed, and jars containing the pennies which Gregorio collected were missing. ff782bc1db

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