So, we know they aren't doing individual sets on this tour, but there are songs off their solo albums that could make it into the setlist. The most obvious one is "Graceland Too," which features Lucy and Julien's vocals. Lucy's "Going Going Gone" also makes sense, as multiple artists (including Phoebe, Julien, and Mitski) were on backing vocals for that song.

Then the solos...... the chances of these being released officially are quite low, but still those songs are sooo fun & should be available on streaming platforms. I NEED Giselle's 2 Hot 4 U, NingNing's Wake Up & Karina's Menagerie in my ears!


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Give us the audios SM i know its just lying around on some flashdrive ? like why would they keep these songs away from us?!!!!! The only rationale for not releasing these songs now is if they intend on releasing a Hyperline Tour Album or if they plan to put these songs on future albums.

What do you guys think? Are those songs locked in the basement or do they think they'll release them officially in the future? Other SM fandoms; have you guys experienced this & what was the outcome?

Classic or current, I don't care. I am having a hard time thinking of a more awesome, catchy, iconic guitar solo song-openers than Dire Straits Money for Nothing, although Sweet Child of Mine comes in close, to me at least. I want to know more!

Ahoy the forum from the coast of Maine.


I haven't played out solo or in a band for decades (agreed, that's way too long!), but I'm starting to get the "itch" to get back into it -- for the challenge & fun, not for the money. I'm curious what you all think about the number of songs needed for a 3-hour solo gig playing background music (solo piano, or maybe with a 2nd board for pads & synths) during a brunch, lunch or dinner at an upscale brew pub or pub-style restaurant.


At 4 minutes per song, that's 15 X 3 or 45 songs, but I'm thinking I'll have twice that number for sure to change up the mix based on the clientele, or to allow for a few requests of styles/groups/songs. Some of you might have 2 to 4X that many songs already memorized; or possibly even more songs, if one used some lead sheets on an iPad.


Any thoughts on the number of songs, and the use of an iPad/lead sheets to expand your playlist for this type of gig?


Thanks in advance.


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Assuming 15 minute breaks, 12 songs per set should do it. When I started out I only had around 35 songs, but that rapidly increased once I got going. If you like tips, you're going to want a couple of hundred at the least.

For Popular music, a repertoire of 50 songs at a minimum will get through 3 hours without repetition. It also provides enough variety that in the event someone does request a tune and it is not within the repertoire, an alternative can be played. Of course, being able to read music opens the book.

50-60 so you have options if the room isn't feeling a particular style. Me personally, I have around 400 on tap and just bring a list of the names sorted by genre, with maybe about 25 of those needing any sort of sheet music to perform. But that's from nearly 13 years of gigging on multiple instruments. So for a standard 3-hour gig with no breaks, ~60 should be fine. Keep in mind you can make your own arrangements on those songs as well, so the length is sort of whatever you want it to be. Improv solo piano versions of pop tunes can actually be quite fun - try some reharmonizations as well because it will get boring after a bit. A few "jazz" chords can spruce up an otherwise bland pop tune (have to love going down to a Ebmaj7).

As an aside, I've loved the coast of Maine when I've visited. Hoping to do the reverse retirement and leave Florida for somewhere in New England at some point 


Our guitarist does solo gigs but these are guitar and vocals. He sometimes does a 3-4 hr solo gig and then has to rush to do a band gig where he then sings a lot more (even though we will tell him to lay back, especially with any harmonies.) I've done two gigs in one day but man I feel it when I do and my voice is usually shot.


He has started doing more looper stuff with soloing, partly to give his voice a break.

Yeah, if you're the story of the night, you need to pay attention to "how long is too long" and have a nice arsenal of tunes to draw from. Particularly if it's been a long time, you'll find the songs go by faster than you expect. Though if you're the boss of the time, I don't think the old "45 on, 15 off" is as relevant as it used to be. If anything, people are more likely these days to do a very long first set and nice healthy break, so that your second (last) set is maybe an hour at most, often even less. Two long sets--particularly if the first one is very long--feel easier than that grind of on-off-on-off from the past.


BUT...if you'll be background music, ten minutes a song is not unthinkable at all, with a nice pause between tunes. I've done duos and trios where if we did five songs in an hour, even if they were purportedly "pop" songs, that was a lot. It's not the song that gets old, it's the vibe. Just have fun with vibe and feel and you can play as many or as few songs as you want. 


One other item people haven't mentioned: it's pretty unlikely that the same people will be there at the end of hour 3, as were there at the beginning of hour 1. if it comes to it, for a first time out of the gate I wouldn't rule out having your first five or so songs, also be your last five.

One other item people haven't mentioned: it's pretty unlikely that the same people will be there at the end of hour 3, as were there at the beginning of hour 1. if it comes to it, for a first time out of the gate I wouldn't rule out having your first five or so songs, also be your last five.

The beauty of using an Ipad loaded with a bucket of Real books and charts, is you can cover just about anything- and also try new stuff out if solo. In the old days, all I had was my memory and what I brought on paper.

I recently went searching and was amazed how little there is out there with most of the new stuff like Billie Eiish not really lending itself. But songs by Adele, Ed Sheeran, and other traditional style singer-songwriters work well. Also been re-working non usual suspects like Toto or Prince.

Trigger alert, but I think solo artists all have to loop in 2023, no matter the instrument. Straight piano "brunch-jazz," maybe not so much (though also maybe so), but IMO a solo artist who doesn't loop now is at a competitive disadvantage and may be thought less of by the "crowd."


I feel less strong about the 80's thing with the drum machine, since it's hard to get cheese out of the upholstery. But even then, if you can own it and do it with any hipness baked in, I think it goes farther than any solo instrument does right now.

I have maybe 3-4 songs with midi backing tracks I use, mainly for some upbeat pop covers. Otherwise, I bring an electronic kick drum pedal with a drum module and use that for some tunes as well - once you get the timing down, it can add a lot.

I'm off to do a couple of sets solo piano in an hour, I have a nice Frank Sinatra Duets book or two which are nice to play (around with). First set of 45 will be one of those almost cover to cover ? I'll make it last 45.


Often thought about taking my lovely little Korg i3 to 'modernise stuff(?)' a bit, but then I think I'll just carry an iPad.

A lot of what I do on solo gigs is geared towards keeping myself entertained and engaged. The theory is that if I'm feeling into it I'll play better. The audience may not notice what it is that's inspiring me but, in theory at least, they'll know I'm playing better.

Most of my solo gigs have been on real pianos in places I play regularly, with a lot of people in the audience who hear me over and over while most other people in the audience loosely fitting a general demographic. A scenario like that has pros and cons. The tipping is probably better in places where the audience is more changeable fluid. On the plus side, it's fun to evolve a repertoire that's known to your audience, and then it's sort of like having a new conversation with them every gig. I'd say these are not "wallpaper" gigs (I've played many of those too). It's common for regulars to say things to me like "I like how you played Waiting on a Friend this week, better than last week," etc.

Maybe it's luck that as someone steeped in the jazz end of things I have a pretty big repertoire of tunes I can noodle on ? . Solo gigs can get boring though, and when I'm playing my rig rather than a real piano I definitely include some backing tracks for a few - not the majority - of the songs I play. These are tracks I've sequenced myself with some very decent plugins - there's no corn factor here (IMO anyway!). Who wouldn't want to add a little sonic spice to a three or four-hour long gig? I also like to try playing familiar tunes in new keys, so these kinds of gigs make a good practice session for working on that. Alfie in F#, Caminhos Cruzados in B, etc. That can be fun.

I guess I haven't really addressed the OP's question! OK here's my .02- try some improvising inside each song you play (you know, noodle!); go for a few choruses. That will probably reduce the number of songs needed! Solo on a few verse sections, or modulate to a different key then go back to the original key - knock yourself out, again, nobody is listening!

So you're going to need more than 45 songs, just to be a little flexible with the vibe of the room, and then you're also going to need to be adding to your repertoire over time anyway to fulfill common requests. You notice the same genres, artists and even songs are often requested in certain venues, towns or entire regions.

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