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It did its job well, immediately leading to record levels of overtaking and the most overtakes in history in the fourth race of the season. Now, a huge proportion of overtakes happen at the end of a DRS zone.

Anybody can pit at any time. While your opponent is in the pits, you are obviously allowed to stay on track and 'overtake' him. And I suppose that if two cars pit at the same time, it's possible to overtake in the pitlane if your opponent does a really slow pitstop. That is the only overtaking allowed under the safety car. (Except for the lapped drivers exception, I'll mention that later.)

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Exceptions: After a few laps of the safety car, the authorities will usually announce that the lapped cars may unlap themselves. When this is announced, you'll see those cars overtake everybody else and then rush around the circuit at high speed to make it to the back again. If a driver is down 5 laps, they are only allowed to unlap one of those laps. When those guys have made it back around to the end of the train of cars, the safety car will pull off and racing will resume. (It was pretty cool watching one of the top drivers quickly unlapping himself on Sunday, charging through the field).

I assume that if a car breaks down or crashes under the safety car, then the others are allowed to overtake it. Then that driver, if they recover, is not allowed to reclaim their old position. They must simply slot in where they can.

Originally posted by black magic

question for those seeing nothing wrong with this, fine. can you let us all know then at what speed you are allowed to overtake before it should bedeemed dangerous - just for the future

fia simply need to issue a reminder that overtaking in pits is not allowed and will be enforced in the future. end of stroy.

Originally posted by black magic

perhaps you can explain how alonso initially runs down the pitlane behind michael, then exits the pitlane ahead of him.

yes he did have to stop for the red light but equally technically he passed michael.

care to answer my question re safe overtaking speed?

Using the overtaking=* tag to specify the legal status of overtaking (also known as passing) on a section of road, which may either be indicated by markings on the road or by a traffic sign. Overtaking means to catch up with and move in front of another vehicle or person while traveling in the same direction.

The overtaking restriction should start where a solid centerline begins or at the location of a traffic sign, and not at the location where preliminary notice markings (dashed yellow centerline or "return to own lane" curved arrows) begin. Where the restrictions for both directions change within some tens of meters (as in the example on the right), it is often not necessary to split the way twice but only at their midpoint.

In the United States, overtaking is generally prohibited along roads in urban and suburban areas. In rural areas, overtaking is often allowed along two-lane roads away from intersections, curves, grades, and other obstructions to the line of sight.

In Germany, most standard overtaking signs only prohibit overtaking multi-track vehicles. Bicycles and motorcycles can usually always be overtaken. From 2020, there is a new special sign that also prohibits cars from overtaking single-track vehicles, but bicycles are always allowed to overtake each other. It is not clear how to map these cases in OSM, as you not only need to reference the overtaking vehicle (which is not a problem), but also specify which types of vehicles can be overtaken.

It should be noted that this page was created in 2009, earlier than change=* in 2012. The above has interpreted this tag as passing a moving vehicle by crossing the center line. However, overtaking in the same side, or even the same lane, may possibly be represented by this tag as well, by hindsight application on such signs. This is compared in Proposed_features/change#Examples. Crossing into the opposite side for any reason, viz encroaching into the opposite side for other driving reasons (narrow road, avoiding obstacles, giving space to pedestrians), would also be represented by change=*. In addition, different jurisdictions may have different rules on passing a stopped vehicle, which is to be distinguished from "overtaking" a moving vehicle downstream.

Originally posted by Yoquai

hi all,

need some help here...

does anybody knows where to find the information about the rules and regulation of overtaking in a race?

last weekend i have a kart racing session with some folks, and there was an accident where my friend got hit from behind by the guy behind him. the guy said that my friend was too slow, and didn't give him a chance to overtake, so he thought the only way for him to get faster was by getting rid off my friend at the front.

In Germany, Austria and Switzerland, and probably other countries, there are traffic signs which regulate which vehicles may be overtaken by others.

For example, agricultural vehicles may be overtaken as an exception in an overtaking ban.

According to taginfo, there are currently 195 occurrences of overtaking:conditional=yes @ agricultural.

The problem with this tag is that according to the convention of conditionals it means that agricultural vehicles are allowed to overtake others. However, it is those that are allowed to be overtaken.

from 2017, which means: overtaking not allowed, not even single-track vehicles. Where the original one only prohibited overtaking double-track vehicles. Both actually only apply to motorized vehicles, so bicycles can always overtake each other.

I have no idea, if the prohibition of overtaking with the usual sign only applies for multitrack motor vehicles also in other countries.

However, if not, they do not need such a sign as you presented anyway.

overtaking:conditional=yes @ agricultural.

overtaking:permitted=* - this is easy to understand, but hard to use: almost every overtaking sign would need one of these. We need a tag to add in the rare special cases, not one to add in most places.

Overtaking or passing is the act of one vehicle going past another slower moving vehicle, travelling in the same direction, on a road. The lane used for overtaking another vehicle is often a passing lane farther from the road shoulder, which is to the left in places that drive on the right and to the right in places that drive on the left.

On a single-carriageway/undivided-highway road, the lane used for overtaking is often the same lane that is used by oncoming traffic. An overtaking vehicle must be able to see clearly ahead of them for the entire overtaking manoeuvre plus a margin of error. For example, in New Zealand it's instructed in the Road Code that an overtaking driver must be able to see at least 100 metres (330 ft) of clear road in front of them as they finish the passing manoeuvre.[1] In the UK, guidance for passing and overtaking is given in rules 162-169[2] of the Highway Code.

In some jurisdictions, the "overtaking zone" is indicated by a single broken centerline (yellow or white in most countries) if overtaking is allowed in either direction, or paired with a single solid line beside it to indicate there is no overtaking from the solid side. In the UK[3] and New Zealand, the format of the centerline is not used to regulate overtaking, only to indicate whether crossing of the line is prohibited or permitted. In Australia,[4] drivers can cross a solid centerline to overtake a cyclist.

In the Republic of Ireland, many national primary roads were upgraded in the 1990s and 2000s to wide two-lane road (two-lane road with space for three lanes, in addition to hard shoulders) to allow more space for overtaking (a very common manoeuvre in a country that had little dual carriageway until the early 2000s). However, due to the deceptive perception of safety given by such roads, future upgrade projects are likely to be 2+1 road where traffic volume suits (a successful pilot installation was used on the N20 near Mallow, County Cork). This form of road is of similar profile to wide two-lane, but includes a central crash barrier, and has three lanes, with an overtaking lane on one side or the other, alternating every 2 km. It has been used in Denmark and Sweden since the 1990s.

On a dual-carriageway/divided-carriageway highway/motorway or arterial road, any lane can be an overtaking lane though in many places (including Germany) undertaking (overtaking on the side furthest from the road center line) is prohibited. Lanes are normally separated by broken lines (usually white) but may be a single solid white to indicate lane-changing is allowed but discouraged. Double lines indicate that lane-changing (for example to overtake) is prohibited, such as in tunnels or sometimes for HOV lanes and HOT lanes.

The no-overtaking-sign looks a lot the same in most European countries, but its legal description differs between countries. Depending on the text of law, in some countries in Europe the no-overtaking-sign bans overtaking only for vehicles that have three or more wheels, effectively granting motorcycle drivers the freedom to overtake cars even past the no-overtaking-sign, where the same sign rules out overtaking for all types of vehicles in neighboring countries. In other jurisdictions, like the Netherlands, overtaking vehicles that have only 2 wheels is not forbidden, despite the no-overtaking sign. The law text 'overtaking vehicles on more than two wheels' allows for overtaking bicycles, of which there are many on Dutch roads.

Many jurisdictions mandate a safe overtaking distance when passing pedestrians, cyclists, persons on horseback, motorcyclists, or those on motorized scooters. For instance, Germany and the United Kingdom both prescribe a horizontal overtaking distance of at least 1.5 metres (5 ft).[5][2] ff782bc1db