Not sure if you have the formula handy with you, but just out of curiosity are you saying 10% crit avoidance will always give the defender a 10% chance against a crit no matter how much crit strike they have? or if the attacker has 600% crit chance it reduces that 10% chance by some. I know at 100% crit avoidance its impossible to crit without some vulnerability debuff but I just figured anything under 100% could have some diminishing returns.

You are wrong about how the mechanic works. Critical avoidance is rolled after the crit already happened. When the enemy has 30% crit chance, they will crit 30% of the time, you have 50% chance to avoid the crit that already happen. Thus having 100% critical avoidance always avoids the crit, regardless of the value of the crit chance.


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Greetings,

There is one major question I have with the Magus, now I already know when a Magus critical hits and confirms with their melee weapon and it is charged with a touch spell, that spell also critical hits for double damage (No matter the Critical modifier on weapon). But there is the Magus Arcana: Critical Strike, that I am curious of; can a Magus do an Spell Strike and if they critical confirm, do their damage and then cast the Touch Spell after the strike?

Critical Strike (Su): Whenever the magus scores a critical hit with a melee weapon, he may cast a spell with a range of touch as a swift action, then make a touch attack with that spell against the target of the critical hit as a free action. The magus can use this ability once per day. The magus must be at least 12th level before selecting this arcana.

I'm just a little unsure what you're asking here. Are you wondering if you could cast a touch spell, deliver it through Spellstrike, crit with that attack, and then cast another touch spell and deliver it with Critical Strike? If so, the answer should be yes.

This arcana basically allows the magus, once per day, to cast a spell per the Quicken Spell rules, without altering the level of the spell - but only a touch spell, and only after successfully confirming a critical hit.

More importantly, since Spellstrike does not consume an action, but instead gives the magus an alternate method of delivering his touch spells, doing so would actually grant him an additional melee attack in his attempt to deliver the second touch spell.

-Magus crits on the roll for the weapon touch attack; Just a quibble: the weapon attack from spellstrike is a normal attack, not a touch attack. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) Xaratherus Feb 12, 2013, 02:52 pm DesolateHarmony wrote: Xaratherus wrote: ...

-Magus crits on the roll for the weapon touch attack; Just a quibble: the weapon attack from spellstrike is a normal attack, not a touch attack. Thank you, corrected my mistake.Magi can't do what I had originally typed until they hit 9th level and take Accurate Strike. ;)

-Magus crits on the roll for the weapon touch attack; Just a quibble: the weapon attack from spellstrike is a normal attack, not a touch attack. Thank you, corrected my mistake.Magi can't do what I had originally typed until they hit 9th level and take Accurate Strike. ;) The only flaw with that, is you would not be able to use Critical Strike, because Accurate Strike takes up the swift action to use. Critical Strike requires the spending on the swift action. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) Xaratherus Feb 12, 2013, 03:41 pm RavanPyreloft wrote: Xaratherus wrote: DesolateHarmony wrote: Xaratherus wrote: ...

-Magus crits on the roll for the weapon touch attack; Just a quibble: the weapon attack from spellstrike is a normal attack, not a touch attack. Thank you, corrected my mistake.Magi can't do what I had originally typed until they hit 9th level and take Accurate Strike. ;) The only flaw with that, is you would not be able to use Critical Strike, because Accurate Strike takes up the swift action to use. Critical Strike requires the spending on the swift action. Derp. Color me completely corrected, lol AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) SeeleyOne May 6, 2014, 12:55 pm Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Maps Subscriber A bit of thread resurrection, but I have a similar question that did not seem to be resolved above.

Back to the example of a Magus Spellstrikes with a weapon with a Threat range of 18-20, 15- 20, whatever (as long as it is a wider margin than just 20). When you confirm the critical, does it apply to both the weapon and the spell?

Am I right? Or am I mistaken? The spell neither threatens nor confirms. Only the weapon threatens and confirms. If the weapon crits, the spell also crits. That's how Spellstrike works. AUC.register('auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay'); AjaxBusy.register('masked', 'busy', 'auc_MessageboardPostRowDisplay', null, null) LazarX May 6, 2014, 01:04 pm Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber BloodyManticore wrote: SeeleyOne wrote: A bit of thread resurrection, but I have a similar question that did not seem to be resolved above.

I have recently tried combining a one-handed light saber (critical range 19-20) with a keen effect (doubling the critical range to 17-20) and the Critical Strike series, which at level 3 is supposed to quadruple your crit-range.

The idea was that 4 x 4 = 16 = 80% probability of criticals, which would nearly double my damage output (as opposed to the +20% from the Flurry series or the even smaller advantage from the power attack).

Of course, considering you actually have 4 attacks if you're playing for damage (2 swords, Master Speed), and only one would be with Critical Strike, Critical Strike itself would still only be roughly as useful as Flurry (2 attacks for 4 times damage and 4 attacks are about the same). When you calculate what you lost in terms of damage by choosing keen upgrades vs what you win with the 20% probability of 3fold criticals on the other 3 attacks, I guess the styles are about even?

Ah no I believe Critical Strike affects all your attacks, certainly the penalty affects you for an entire attack round and it would be incredibly lame if the benefit didn't also. Flurry provides you with 25%-200% more attack capability (depends if single\dual weld+Master Speed) without penalty. If CS only impacted on the first strike then you'd have a 25%-50% chance of doing 100% more damage per attack which would be majorly underwhelming especially given the DEF-5 drop. It's supposed to affect all attacks. Hmm according to Gamespot - KotOR II you're supposed to be able to get 80% criticals. Maybe they goofed? Flurry gives you an additional two attacks (not one) if you solo weld. My preference is for CS myself. Sniper Shot's the ranged equivalent and again I prefer that. Hmm not sure if Rapid Shot gives 2 additional attacks all the time or only single weapons, something to check. Anyone know?

A critical strike is a hit which is intrinsically multiplied by your critical strike multiplier and has a chance to occur on any hit. The chance to critically strike is governed by your critical strike chance. By default, critical strikes of the appropriate elements will inflict elemental ailments.

Crit roll: A value between 0 and 99.99 is rolled when a skill is used or triggers, determining the critical strike chance required by hits to become critical strikes during the crit check. (Note: if critical strike chance is lucky, this value is rolled twice, and the lower number is used).

Crit check: Each hit's crit chance is calculated independently. This value is then checked against the crit roll; if the crit chance exceeds the crit roll, the hit will become a critical strike.[1] Due to conditional crit chance modifiers such as Assassin's MarkAssassin's MarkCritical, Spell, Curse, Mark

Level: (1-20)

Cost: (16-33) Mana

Cast Time: 0.50 secRequires Level 16Curses a single enemy, making them more vulnerable to Critical Strikes. Killing the cursed enemy will grant life and mana, and a power charge. You can only have one Mark at a time.Cursed enemies have a 100% chance to grant a Power Charge when slain

Hits against Cursed Enemies have +1.5% to Critical Strike Chance

Hits against Cursed Enemies have +(30-49)% to Critical Strike Multiplier

Cursed enemies grant (65-600) Life when Killed

Cursed enemies grant (25-80) Mana when Killed

 

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Additional critical strike chance (i.e. additional crit, additional base crit) adds to base crit before any percentage increases. Sources can include Brittle, Assassin's MarkAssassin's MarkCritical, Spell, Curse, Mark

Level: (1-20)

Cost: (16-33) Mana

Cast Time: 0.50 secRequires Level 16Curses a single enemy, making them more vulnerable to Critical Strikes. Killing the cursed enemy will grant life and mana, and a power charge. You can only have one Mark at a time.Cursed enemies have a 100% chance to grant a Power Charge when slain

Hits against Cursed Enemies have +1.5% to Critical Strike Chance

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Cursed enemies grant (65-600) Life when Killed

Cursed enemies grant (25-80) Mana when Killed

 

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Level: (1-20)

Cost & Reservation Multiplier: 120%Requires Level 8Supports any skill that hits enemies.Supported Skills have (60-117)% increased Critical Strike Chance

Supported Skills have +2% to Critical Strike Chance

 

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