is 9now free to air ??? remember Free to air is Not the same as "watching on the internet" Data costs $$$ free air costs Nothing- & if so why dont those idioxts at Channel9 put this on free to 9now air channel ?? if they had Any common sense ??

I think you have to set up an account to watch 9 streaming even though it's free, like ABC iView and SBS On Demand. Personally I think you should be able to watch ABC & SBS streaming without setting up an account as they are public broadcasters.


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We're similar. There are 6 x TVs in this place, and only 3 are connected to antennas. They all have Fetch boxes on them and can stream FTA channels from the other antenna-connected boxes anyway. We're starting the build process of our new home soon, and I doubt we'll include a TV antenna provision at all.

As they are "public" funding for these organisations that comes from the Government is fundamnetal to their continuation. It is important that the organisations can demonstrate usage and their value to the community. Otherwise The Government will say no usage therefore why should you receive funding. Hence registration unfortunately is very important. Please register so that the ABC and SBS continue to be viable.

It is the same for many public cultural institutions. Just look at the fuss that had to made for the National Gallery and National Library etc in Canberra to receive essential funding to just survive. I could say a lot more but I won't

Not quite. When you "live stream" FTA channels, it's supplied over the NBN connection, not via the antenna connected boxes. the term FTA has traditionally referred to TV transmission via RF signals from the transmission towers, to differentiate from cable TV and Sat TV, prior to digital streaming via the NBN. Actually, fetch TV still use the term FTA to differentiate between channels received via your antenna, and digitally supplied signals.

Edit: Actually, that may not be correct for streaming antenna supplied content from a Maxi to a Mini. The brochure says you can. But You can't stream antenna supplied content from a Maxi to another Maxi, which is what I just tried..

I understand what you are saying, but as part of my work I install smart TV's. I can tell you that people over 70 in a lot of cases suffer trauma when upgrading to a smart TV. Having to set up accounts then logging in with usernames and passwords is beyond a lot of old people. I think the system should be a lot easier to use these apps, after all there's no money involved.

Life today is about ratings ratings and more ratings. Even this forum for example that quotes registered membership numbers and how many on line. Any one on this forum must register and then put the details in each time they want to connect. Whilst usernames and passwords may be a nuisance it is now a fact of life. Primarily for our privacy protection. I also understand about the complexity of registering and the potential for anxiety for some. My spreadsheet of pins etc is now nearly 350 lines and age wise I am closer to 80 than 70 unfortunately. Registering the ABC and others it is once only.

It is fundamental that the various Australian cultural institutions need to be able to demonstrate relevance to the funding authorities to ensure their respective on-going survival. Having worked at a senior level in a cultural institution for 35 years I know how things work funding wise. No funding is death. Do you want the likes of a particular media baron to achieve his objective of no ABC. Society would be the ultimate losers. If free to air disappears you will be streaming and paying for it. More complexity!

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There are times when the picture quality is quite good and most importantly the motion is quite smooth, then there are other times when the broadcast gets blocky and the frame rate drops right down resulting in lots of stuttering.


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Apparently the way I checked for source resolution is wrong. Flipping between the stream and 9HD on the FTA box, the latter has a better picture, but I'm happy enough with the stream's picture considering in previous years I had only SD and no way to choose which match to watch.

I am having the same via my Chromecast from my phone. It is saying HD stream but often the sound is not in sync with the video and I am getting terrible lag and Shadowing of the ball. Doesn't happen when I stream from Kayo. I think the 9now app is pretty bad ....

Just give it to the professionals and make people pay. With the terrible ads 9 are showing my kids, i would be happy to pay for it. In this day and age, if you can't do it properly then don't do it at all.

If you have Hulu with the Live TV package via DNS you can stream the Australian Open on the ESPN2 channel in 1080p/60fps

The sooner people stop watching broadcast TV the sooner this will become the bare minimum via streaming.

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^Please note you may have to turn it to 1080p60FPS via settings cog as YouTube tends to default to your most frequently used stream quality chosen.

Nines website is using a nearly 20 year old compression codec and as I said in this thread below they could use the free Google VP9 codec ( _player_software_support ) and provide 1080p video quality at no extra bandwidth increase because of its more advanced compression abilities

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No they couldn't because some of devices 9now support don't have support for VP9. H.264 is an industry standard for HD content for a reason. It is still actively developed and the latest version was released in June 2019.

Is 9now 60hz? I assume the AO is shot in 50fps so would that explain the jerky ball movement?

If you watch the stream via a high-end TV that does a lot of internal processing of the image then it will improve the visual quality and smoothness via all "Action Smoothing, TruMotion, Motionflow-200Hz equiv" etc you see on TV specs these days.

I actually like to turn the "TruMotion" mode on my TV when I watch stuff mainly because I paid for it and the TVs cost for around 35% of the TV, so it is silly not to use it even if sometimes things move too silky smooth around the pace.

For me and my TV I was some what "forced" to by the smoothing technology inside it so I may as well use it.

To me, it's arguably bizarre thing to dislike because if people don't like the TV doing its picture enhancements then they would save money by just buying a large PC monitor instead of TV, the TV manufactures would have far less tech inside and things to think about if the world changed to being "pure image input only", ultra-cheap TVs tend to have far less image processing in them.

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Also, note that even if you watch the 9Now tennis stream via PC/ATV/ChromeCast plugged into your TV it is likely to enhance/smooth out the picture as long as you don't leave the TV in "Game mode". When I flick through the picture modes on my OLED TV while watching a stream via the external device via HDMI the changes in smoothness are remarkably different between each mode.

Been watching the tennis on 9Now. Looks great compared to the regular broadcast of channel 9. Though that's not hard. Every regular channel looks like garbage on my TV which is an LG CS OLED 55". It often looks blurry. I think it's a combination of 1080i and poor upscaling, even with all the clarity settings up high.

Sounds like 9Now is 1080p and 50fps these days? I was thinking it's probably more like 30fps, at least at certain times. It definitely could be higher for sports. And we could really do with 4K at this point but I imagine that's some time in the future for streaming, and even longer for regular FTA. 152ee80cbc

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