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.....May-Day De Hawaale Naal..... Dharoee aa mulkha, dharoee

Anakh shodaa da sooraj Dubiya

jind bheRee adh-moee

...Dharuee aa mulkha, dharoee Aas umeed da chaanan gadla

Khaore keRhe kaar da badla

Rutt sathhoN peyee maNgge

Khalqat jhore moDhe cha ke

Moonh te soch nooN jaNdre la ke

NiveeN pa pa laNghe

...Sir na chaae koee

...Dharoee aa mulkha, dharoee Sochaan di lao maTyaali jei

Surt chaanani dhur kaali jei

Shaala, sooraj ogge

PeraaN de vich ghoNghroo pa ke

BhaNgRe, gidde naach nacha ke

Her koee piya pugge

...Jaage khalqat soee

...Dharuee aa mulkha, dharoee BhaaNviN raat tawe di kaalakh

Chann, kaaNwaan de aahlane

jhulle laal haneri

AkhaaN de vich jugnoo bhar ke

Deve thaaN thaaN baalane

Eh sik teri meri

...Ehdi baa'j na dhoee ...Dharoee aa mulkha, dharoee Javed Zaki

Name: Sardarz - April 30 2004 E-mail: ffehfuhuh@CSJFOIJI.COM Comments: Gursharan Ji, Vah Vah, bara sohna "ulatha" kita je.

While I was reading the hindi version off the link provided by Rajeev Ji, I could not help admiring the author of that piece, how much justice he/she had done while writing Hindi in English alphabets, like the use of "bindi"( .)to make it sound like Hindi. But you took it a step forward with your "ulatha", very well done, Kudos. :-) Regards.

Name: Rajinder Singh - April 30 2004 E-mail: rkforever@punjabilok.net My URL: Location: London, UK Comments: First of all I say sat sri akal to all. I AM RAJINDER SINGH FROM LONDON BUT ORIGNALY AMRITSAR (PUNJAB). I SAW YOUR SITE ITS REALLY GREAT. I HAVE SOME MORE VIEW FOR YOUR SITE BECAUSE I LOVE MY PUNJAB ALTHOUGH IT IS INDIAN OR PAKISTAN BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN GOD FIRST THANKS

Name: rajeev - April 29 2004 E-mail: fakemail@donotspam.com Comments: gursharan veer jee

ulathae daa boht boht shukriya! wah wah.. sardarz veera

sorry, i don't know much about her story.. no idea if she writes too.. found her album on musicindiaonline.. give it a shot if you like hope that you like it!

sat sri akal

Name: Chaudhary Sher Bahdur Sipra - April 29 2004 E-mail: guru_jat@hotmail.com Location: Tarrytown, NY USA Comments: in regard to Farhat Khan jees remarks about my comments. Farhat jee you are very right about how parents and schooling can influence someone. i have been in America since two years and i am here for college and it is hear that i have learned punjabi while interacting with punjabi students both Sikhs and Muslims. i was raised in Islamabad and was sent to a private School back there. if punjabis used to talk in punjabi it was considered disgraceful but when two pathans spoke pashtoo people used to say it sounds so cool. my father is a retired federal secretary the highest rank a government officer can obtain in Pakitan. he would try to speak to me in punjabi but i would reply in urdu because he would say there is no need to go to the village and i would say i want to go to my lands and then i got stubborn. being a jat stubborn and dumb i guess. my point was if u dont want me to go to the village there is no point in speaking punjabi then as everyone speaks urdu or englsih in the cities. i hope u get my point. my mother cannot speak punjabi as her parents never taught her the language. my maternal grandfather was writer in persian. he wasnt proud of his language i guess. but my mother has never stopped me from speaking punjabi. i try now but sometimes i mess up and rather than learning easy punjabi i am trying to learn lehnda which is a dialect of punjabi and spoken in jhang and gujrat area. what i believe is that most people who are not proud of punjabi are people who do not have strong family values or are then ashamed of their past. by this i mean what i have been able to study and see far is. the Qureshis, Sheikhs, Mughals and shahs of punjab. as these people have been oppressed by the land owners and are not considered of their standing. thus these people do not encourage punjabi to be spoken by their children. we would rather do break dance than bhangra or jhummar or luddi. even if family teaches u good things people when outside their houses act acccording to the surrounding environment. the rural class who do want to promote their heritage do not have the means to do so. and the people in the cities are more inclined to promoting rock bands in pakistan than a fold singer from a rurual area to cater to the masses. maybe i am wrong. my thoughts are very clear when it comes to culture and language as i get disgusted by people bach home when i visit and see them more westernized than before.

Name: Rashid Chaudhry - April 29 2004 E-mail: rashid313@yahoo.com Location: Pindi, Pak Comments: I fully second Suman's request to the contributors to refrain using bold alphabets. It looks odd and even romen Punjabi could not be written in such a manner.

Name: gursharan - April 29 2004 E-mail: abc@abc.com Location: reston, va USA Comments: Hello All,Rajeev Ji da post keeta RESHMA de hindi interview da Punjabi ulathaJust a TRYHero film ch gaaye geet 'lammi judaai' ton hindostani dilaan ch khaas thaan banaan vaali Reshma ne lamme sammey ton baad film 'jo tera naam tha' vich pher aapni awaz ditti. Is film di mashoori layi oh pichley dinni delhi aayi. sidhey-saade te sehaj subhaa di te khulli awaz di maalkan hai Reshma. Kudrat di bukkal vich palli oh kudrat vaang hi khari te sachi-suchi hai. Subhaa da ssaupuna ohdi awaz vich vi pata lagda hai. Pichley dinni delhi ohna di pheri doraan Renuka Agarwal naal ohna di gall-baat de kujh hissy.Allah mere ustad han. Reshma-- mera janam bharat de rajasthan subey de shehr bikaner ch ik banjara parivaar vich hoya. maape vi bharat de rehan vaale san. kamm-kaar vajon asi Soudagar hunde haan. Majhaan(buffalo) te boteyaan(camels) nu ley ke pakistan jaana te othon hor maal-dangar lai ke bharat aaona saade kabiley da veyopaar si. jithey raat paindi othe aapna dera la laina te Saver hunde hi agey da paindey(journey)layi tur paina. Injh di hi ik pheri te asi pakistan vich saan te pata lageya ke batvara(partition) ho geya hai. te is kabiley de jo lok pakistan aaye san oh ethey hi reh gaye te baaki piche hindostan vich. Main os valey sirg ik mahiney di si. Gaaon da shaunk mainu choti hundi nu si. Noorjehan, Shamshad begum te Lata ji de gaane sunndi hundi si. Asi 2 bhain-bhai saan te main mannat magdi si ke je mere bhra da viah ho jaavega te main Shahbaz kalandar di dargah te jaavangi. te jadon rabb ne meri muraad poori kitti te main Shahbaz kalandar di dargah te gayi te othey bhra de viah di khushi vich geet ga rahi si "damadam mast kalandar". os veley othey radio pakistan karachi de director saleem jilaani vi othey san. ohna ne othey mera gaana suneya te mainu vekheya. baad vich oh mere kol aaye te mainu pucheya ke tusi radio te gaana pasand karoge. Main keha ke saade kabiley vich radio te gaana pasand nahi kitta jaanda lekin tusi mainu aapna sirnaava(address) de deyo je kismat vich hoya te aapde kol jaroor hajari bhraangi. ohna kol os veley koi kaagaz vi nahi si tey ohna ne sigrat(smoke) di dabbi utey aapna address likh ke de ditta. takreeban 1 saal baad saada karachi jaana hoya te main badi khush si. Aapniyaan kujh saheliyaan nu naal lai ke mai ditte patey te pahunch gayi. pehle te gate te chowkidaar ne hi andar na jaan ditta. phir main ohnu oh patey vaali cigrat di dabbi vikhaai te oh kehnda ke eh te ohde saab da naam hai. Main keha ke eh te mainu nahi pata par ehna ne mainu milan vaaste bulaaya hai. oh saanu andar lai geya te jilaani saab mainu vekhdeyaan hi mainu pehchaan leya te keha te kehan lagey ke tu haale jiondi hain. itney samey baad aai hain. Maniu ohna ne itni der baad mil ke vi pehchaan leya mere layi ehi badi khushi di gal si. Ohna mainu pher readio te gaan layi pucheya. Main jawaab ditta ke radio lai te nahin tusi vaisey hi sun lavo jiven main dargaah te gaaya si. Os ton baad oh mainu ik band kamre vich lai gaye te ik thaan te khra kar ditta. main pucheya ke mere saamney eh danda(stick type)jeha ki khada hai tai ik bibi boli ke is lamme dandae nu mike kehnde ne te hun tusi is dande val hi munh karke gaana hai. kamre vich ik paase vaaje te dholki lai ke saaji baithe san. salim saab boley jadon asin ishaara kariye te gaana hai te jadon hath da ishaara kariye te chup ho jaana. Is tarah os din os dande vall munh karke main pehla geet gaaya. Sabh ton pehla "damadam mast kalandar" pher "haaye o rabba dil nahion lagda" pher "kitey nain na jodeen" is tarah ohna kujh gaane mare kolon gavaaye. Pher ik aadmi aaya te meri gaana gaandi di photo khich geya. Othe da maahol ghar varga si. Jadon meri photo khichi gayi te main dar gayi ke reshma hum teri kair nahi. eh meri photo kabiley vaaleyaan nu dikha ke kehnge ke rehma ethey aai si. Main othon chup-chaap kujh dasey bina aa gayi. Osey shaam hi radio vaaleyaan ne mere hi geet vaja ditey. mera bhra meri awaz pachaan ke kehnda ke aami eh te reshma di awaz hai mainu puchda ke tu kithey gaa ke aayi hain. te main keha ke ghar jehi si main te othe gaaya si par eh radio te kis tarah eh mainu nahi pata. Main te aap hairaan si main te jilaani saab de saahmney gaaya si eh radio te kis tarah aa geya. Es tarah meri gaayki di shuruaat hoi. Os veley main mahine de 10 gaane gaane hunde si os ton baad main radio te noukari vi kitti. mere abba ji te meri nikki hundi de hi mar gaye san meri maa ne hi paaleya. Oh chaande si ke je awaz changi hai te jaroor gaaona chahida. Par saade kabile vaaleyaan nu mere radio te gaan ton shikaayat si. pehla-pehla ohna mainu te meri maa nu taane maare. pher jiven-2 meri mashoori hundi gayi lok houli-2 chup karde gaye. Os ton baad main kai program kittey. Amrika,Kaneda te landan ja ke vi gaaya. pher meri maa vi rabb kol tur gayi. Is ghatna ne mainu andar takk hila ditta. Lok aksar puchde ne ke reshma tuhada Ustaad kaun hai, Isda mere kol koi jawaab nahi si hunda. kyon ke main gaane di koi sikhiya nahi layi. Ik vaar main Naushad Saheb nu keha ke jadon main kehndi haan ke Allah mera ustaad hai te loki hasde ne. Baba ji tusi mainu aapni Shagirdi vich lai lavo. Oh kehan lagey ke main tainu ki sikha sakda haan main keha ke mere lai te tuhadiyaan duaavaan hi kaafi ne. Is tarah mai ohna di Shagird hoi. Mainu Lok puchde ne ke hindostan ziadda pasand hai ke pakistan. Main jammi hindostan vich palli pakistan vich mainu te dono mulak meriyaan dovain Akhaan di tarah han. Parhaai na karan da afsos hai. Anparh hon karke gaane ratt(ghota laa ke,yaad kar ke)ke gaaondi han. autograph da chalan pehley vi si par aj jinna nahi. jadon meri mashoori hon lagi te lok mere kol autograph lai aaonde te mare kol Angootha hunda si. Pher main alaf be pe te kaida sikheya. Ehda eh faida hoya ke aapna naam likhan lagg pai te thori Akhraan di v pehchaan ho gayi. gaane nu v samjhan vich assani hundi hai. Mera mannana hai ke parhaai bohut jaroori hai Ise karke main aapne chaaro bacheyaan nu parhaya hai.

Name: kaurasach - April 29 2004 E-mail: kaurasach@yahoo.com Comments: Akhilesh,

It is finally relieving to hear from a hindu to admit the bias Punjabi Hindus have against Punjabi. Growing up in Chandigarh not a single (all were Punjabis except 2) hindu in my class put Punjabi as their language. Few spoke hindi. This was for a census.

They were outspoken about their anti Punjabi stand.

Teachers were all Punjabi, and 90% were Hindu. They spoke amongst themselves in 'theth' Punjabi, but turned to Hindi when speaking to us even in private.

Even sikhs today speak in Hindi at home, but have different reasons for doing so.

Name: Sardarz - April 29 2004 E-mail: akabsuhi@yahoo.com Comments: Rajeev VeerJi

Reshman's interview posted on that site was really informational,maybe I missed it but it did not say anything about the source of her songs.

Does she write them herself ? is there any story behind it like Shiv's ? Akhlesh Ji

Kudos to your decision to research your roots,even if it meant making some family members unhappy.

You would be a role model to many youth in the comming years, just keep your enthusiam up.Regards.

Name: Akhilesh - April 29 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: Hi, can anyone tell me if Shiv Kumar Batalvi wrote any poems on Guru Gobind Singh? I am told there is a line like "Mein kis kalam de naal karaj chukaavan". Anyone recognize or have any idea about this????

Name: Akhilesh - April 29 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: I understand what everyone is saying regarding the youth and attitudes of parents towards Panjabi and Punjabi culture. I dont understand Panjabi and it has only been for the past 2 or 3 years that i have been taking an interest in our culture, history, language etc. My father was never keen on teaching me Panjabi, he actually at one time wanted me to go and learn Hindi at some Mandir and while i had briefly been taking Panjabi classes at the Gurdwara he wasnt exactly thrilled. He has got some kind of problem in accepting that Panjabi is not a dialect of Hindi but is an entirely separate language which is far older than Hindu/Urdu. Whats funny is that when he goes to visit family in Delhi/Punjab he will try and show-off infront of everyone by speaking Panjabi without using one word of Hindi, but then all other times he's like "Panjabi is dialect of Hindi" blah blah. Whats worse is that i have been in presence of non-Punjabis who have tried to ridicule our language by saying things like "No one in Punjab speaks Panjabi they speak Gurumukhi" and other crap and my father will laugh and agree with them (Even though he knows they are talking sh*t) I think it is the anti-Punjabiyat attitude of my father that has made me a strong supporter of it to the point that i am disgusted to even consider identifying with other labels like "South Asian", "Indian" whatever because i want nothing to do with any of those people. Shame that my father feels like this about his own culture, language and history. I blame this largely on the fallout between Punjabi Sikhs and Hindus after partition. Most Punjabi Hindus i have come across seem to distance from Punjabiyat and then my father is even ashamed of admitting to them that our family is of mixed Khatri Sikh-Hindu religious background. So it all came as a big shocker to parents friends when i started to revert to Sikhism... Anyway, i am just a Punjabi and i am proud to be one. I can tell you that alot of Punjabis my age would like to know more about the history and cultures of Punjab but just there is no one approachable they can learn from.

Name: suman - April 29 2004 E-mail: suman@thisandthat.com Comments: Could I request that people refrain from writing in all caps? Using all capital letters is harder to read and really quite unneccessary.

Name: RAVI SHARMA - April 28 2004 E-mail: jaibabedi@sify.com My URL: Location: LUDHIANA , PUNJAB india Comments: FRIENDS; ON HINDI DIVAS OUR PRIME MINISTER MR ATAL JI SAID "HINDI KI BAAT BAHUT HOTI HAI, HINDI MEIN BAAT BAHUT KUM HOTI HAI" AND SO IS THE PROBLEM WITH PUNJABI. I HAVE SEEN MANY SO CALLED GAURDIANS OF PUNJABI CULTURE WHO SPEAK HINDI OR ENGLISH WITH THEIR KIDS AND THEY THINK TALKING IN PUNJABI WILL DOWNSIZE THEIR STATUS IN THE SOCIETY. RABB UHANA NU MUMATT DEVE. THANKS -- RAVI SHARMA

Name: kaurasach - April 28 2004 E-mail: kaurasach@yahoo.com Comments: Here in our community, None is interested in teaching their kids our culture, language or values. They encourage them in various fields as piano, soccer, etc. but nothing in Punjabi.

They just utter opra opra jaya "hun ki kariae, begane desh baithay aan, bache nahin sunday" among other excuses. When kids make fools of themselves with their antics, "cross cultural differences", it is nervous laughter.

There are means to teach Punjabi and enough willing teachers, but no willing kids or parents.

Name: farhat khan - April 28 2004 E-mail: Farhatkhan5@hotmail.com Location: Chicago, IL USA Comments: This is in response to Mr.Sipra's comments. I agree with you partially. First of all we need to differentiate religion from culture. Religion is a componant of culture. As far as Punjabi culture is concerned ,that begins at home at an early age. Parents have to instill pride in one's cultural heritage and of course a respect for all other cultural values. I was born in Pakistan but migrated to the U.S at a very early age but my parents made sure that my brothers and I spoke Punjabi at home and developed an appreciation for Punjabi folk heroes and had some knowledge of Punjabi literature. As a result all three of us developed an understanding and respect for our heritage but also learned to appreciate and respect diversity. Unfortunatley in Pakistan every thing is taught from a limited perspective without any real information about diverse groups and Punjab is home to a diverse population and untill this diversity is woven into the curriculum in schools in a positive way,the younger generation will not develope an appreciation for Punjab and Punjabiat. As far as Westeren cultural values and music is concerned,most people consider it glamorous and stylish and follow the trends blindly without really understanding anything about the West. Parents and the school system need to get involved at a very early stage.Jiyo, Farhat.

Name: rajeev - April 28 2004 E-mail: fakemail@donotspam.com Comments: sardarz veer

i am posting a link to a hindi interview with Reshma.. she was born in rajasthan, india and brought up in pakistan.. the interview is very sincere, transparent and touching -- just like her voice.. the only problem is that it is in romanized hindi, so a bit painful to read.. but i am sure that after reading you will not regret it.. click here to go to the interview

lemme' know how you like it!

sat sri akal

Name: Chaudhary Sher Bahadur Sipra - April 28 2004 E-mail: guru_jat@hotmail.com Location: Islamabad, USA Comments: PUNJABI CULTURE AND LANGUAGE CANNOT BE PROMOTED IF THE YOUTH IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CAUSE. WE NEED TO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHICH IS THE NEXT GEBERATION TO BE A PART OF THIS. EVERY PUNJABI KID I KNOW IS MORE INCLINED TOWARDS WESTERN THINKING. FORGET ABOUT PUNJABI TRADITION THEY ARE FORGETTING THE PAKISTANI OR ISLAMIC CULTURE BECAUSE THEY WANT WESTERN SOCIAL AND MORAL VALUES. THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT JON BON JOVI THAN ALAM LOHAR OR MUSSARAT NAZIR. I AM 22 YEARS OLD. WHEN I WAS KID I USED TO HEAR SONGS OR TAPPE LIKE RAAT DAY BAARA BAJJE, LATHE DE CHADDAR, BALLE TOR PUNJABAN DE, AND OTHER TRADITIONAL SONGS BUT NOW AT WEDDINGS YOU HAVE HINDI FILM SONGS PLAYING AND GIRLS SINGING HINDI SONGS WITH THE DHOLKI. IN THE VILLAGES PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT HEER RANJHA, MIRZA STORIES ARE. AND HOW THEY WERE SUNG. FOLK HEROS LIKE DULLA BHATTI AND JAGGA JAT ARE NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN HOMES. THE KIDS PLAY GUITARS RATHER THAN PLAYING A TUMBI. IS THERE ANY KID WHO SITS AND THINKS ABOUT PUNJABI CULTURE AND ROOTS ,NO THEY THINK ABOUT AN EXPENSIVE CAR THEY WANT.

Name: Mianwali - April 28 2004 E-mail: emailmianwali@yahoo.com My URL: Location: Miwanwali, Pakistan Comments: Siraki is the most common regional language in Pakistan. I have heard that in India there is a place called Mianwali Nagar, New Delhi which was built by immigrants from Pakistan's Mianwali and they still speak Siraiki in that area. Any comments/details would be appreciated. I am also from Mianwali , Pakistan.

Name: Sardarz - April 28 2004 E-mail: bhyuu@yahoo.com Comments: Ki haal ai Dosto,

I was listening to Reshma's songs last night and could not keep myself from comparing the "Dard" in the Lyrics of her songs to that of Shiv's poetry.

Does anyone know if she writes her own songs or are they work of some poet.

What is the story behind her, she seems to be single and all her songs relate to a damsels undying wait for her love. Regards.

Name: Saeed - April 28 2004 E-mail: saeedfaranipk@yahoo.com Location: Rawalpindi, Punjab Pakistan Comments: APNA Mitro, kee haal je? es waaree de LehraaN, Punjabi monthly, Lahore wich Germany wich wasdey Punjabi de uggey shaaer (kavi) Tufail Khalish da interview chhapiyaa ey. Eh interview ohnaaN ne London toN chhapan waaley the Pakistan Post choN liyaa ey. Interview karan waaley Sultan Ahmad Khan (America wich wasdey Punjabi piyaarey) ney. Interview baRaa ee bharwaaN ey. OhnaaN da interview da markazi theme Punjabi zuban (bhaashaa) ey. Es interview wich ohnaaN es site www.apnaorg.com nooN boht salaahyaa ey ehnaaN dostaaN dee boht taarif keetee ey jehnaaN neyN mil ke eh site banaee. inteview wich Safir Rammah, Dr. Manzur Ejaz, Preetee Sehgal, Dharam Paul Singh, Revindar Singh, Shamim Ahmad, Nasira kausar te hornaaN dostaaN da zikar ey. Tufail Khalish horaaN daa interview paRh ke inj lagaa jeeveyN oh Punjabi de masley te okRaaN nooN chaNgee taraaN samjhadey neyN.

Name: Akhilesh - April 27 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: Dear Rammah Ji, thank you for updating the site.

Name: RAVI SHARMA - April 26 2004 E-mail: jaibabedi@sify.com My URL: Comments: PLEASE VISIT THIS LINK. WE REMBER MR S. RAMMAH WITH THESE PICS. RAVI SHARMA

Name: Akhilesh - April 25 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: Ravi, thanks for sharing that site.

Name: RAVI SHARMA - April 24 2004 E-mail: jaibabedi@sify.com My URL: Location: LUDHIANA , PUNJAB india Comments: DEAR APNA FRIEND : CONGRATULATIONS TO DR JAGTAR DHIMAN AND MS MANU SHARMA SOHAL. THEY ARE FORMALLY GOING TO INAGURATE THE LONG AWAITED WEBSITE -htm.html PLEASE VISIT. IT'S WORTH SEEING. REGARDS RAVI SHARMA

Name: Joseph John - April 24 2004 E-mail: josephjohnsialkoti@hotmail.com Location: sialkot, Pakistan Comments: I must congratualte those who are regularly updating and adding new material on this website. I'm really glad to see the translations of the Bible, the Quran, Bhagvat Geeta and Kalam Baba Nanak. This is great, keep it up! God bless, Joseph.

Name: farhat khan - April 23 2004 E-mail: farhatkhan5@hotmail.com Location: Chicago, il USA Comments: Kudos to Mr.Pervaiz Elahi and the government of Punjab for taking such positive steps to ensure the rights of minorities and improve services for visitors. Just a reminder to all that the Almighty did not create religions or castes.I believe the words are let there be light. Be well.

Name: Akhilesh - April 23 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: We will care for sacred Sikh sites, says Elahi LAHORE The government of the Punjab is working on protecting Sikh sacred sites and is setting up an institute that will promote the Punjabi language and culture that both communities share, said Punjab Chief Minister Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi on Friday. He met a delegation of Sikh pilgrims, headed by Sikh leader Harvinder Sindh Sarna, which called on him at his residence. He told them that the government was going to make sure that Sikh Yatrees would have all the amenities they needed at these special sites. These government decisions come at a time when thousands of Sikh pilgrims flocked to Pakistan for the Besakhi festival this year. This has brought about very encouraging people-to-people contact between Pakistan and India, which auger well for the peace process, Mr Elahi said. The road leading to the sacred site of Darbar Kartarpur near Narowal has been rehabilitated and constructed, which means that travel to this site is much easier for the Sikh pilgrims, Mr Elahi told the delegation. The government is also working on setting up residential facilities and better infrastructure for Sikh visitors at Nankana Sahib, he said. These developments are important because the government values the cultural and historic relationship that exists between the two communities that share the Punjabi language, he said. Mr Elahi emphasized that Islam teaches peace, tolerance and brotherhood and, keeping this Islamic spirit in view, the government is implementing a strategy for the protection of the rights of minorities in the province. In the wake of the recent visit by the Chief Minister of East Punjab, Capt (r) Amrinder Singh, the relations between the two countries have been much rosier, Mr Elahi said. Both communities need to work together to eliminate poverty and backwardness on both sides of the border, he said. The exchanges of delegations of journalists, lawyers and sportsmen, have had a strong and positive impact on the ties between the two countries, he said. Harvinder Singh Sarna said that Mr Elahi has ensured the availability of better transport facilities for Sikh Yatrees with the construction and rehabilitation of the Darbar Kartarpur Road. The Sikhs appreciated the better facilities now available at Nankana Sahib, which have meant that more Sikh Yatrees have been encouraged to visit the site. staff report =story_24-4-2004_pg7_9

Name: kaurasach - April 23 2004 E-mail: kaurasach@yahoo.com Comments: Ik hor akhaan

Jutt Sonay (gold) da Chittar pital (brass) day

This is what I learned recently, it means that everything is good except a Kummee (shortcoming)flaw or two.

Name: Chaudhary Sher Bahdur Sipra - April 23 2004 E-mail: guru_jat@hotmail.com Location: Tarrytown, NY USA Comments: I just want to know what APNA is doing to promote the punjabi culture in west punjab or the pakistani panjab. what i see there is religious culture but not a punjabi culture. the village people think what their ancestors did was bad and they want to be more sophisticated or have dinner table manners as i would describe it. Young kids in the villages play cricket rather than gulli danda or kabbaddi. what steps are being taken by you to promote punjabi music in punjab. do u fund any shows in small cities of punjab. Sher Sipra

Name: Sardarz - April 22 2004 E-mail: ftrtfd2@yahoo.com Comments: Rai Farid Ji,

The reason of my post was inqisitiveness as a critic of History and in no way any malice towards your family. If it hurt your feelings Pls. accept my apologies. You wrote in your last post "I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE LEADERSHIP ROLE FOR MY CONSTITUENCY AND MY FAMILY.I MUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COULD DEFAME MY FAMILIES NAME"

Even though you accept the responsibility of answering the questions, you FAILED to answer my inquiries.If you would have expressed your lack of information about my questions I would have understood it, but after your not so positive take on my questions, my curiosity has incresed even more and I will research furthur to find the answers that I originally seeked from you. You also mentioned "I SHALL ADVICE YOU THEREFORE NOT TO DEFAME YOUR OWN AND NOT GO SO DEEP INTO HISTORY, THAT YOU GET CONFUSED", with due respects I disagree with your state of mind and ADVISE.

Think about it for a while, did'nt Guru Nanak did precisely this ie question the HISTORY, here are some examples.

-Guru Nanak goes to Mecca and a Mullah asks him to sleep with his feet in a direction away from the site of Mecca the abode of Allah, Guru answers him by saying put my feet in the direction where there is no Allah.

-Brahmins are pouring water with hands in direction of Sun so it can reach his ancestors while bathing in River Ganges, Guru starts pouring water in opposite direction, when asked why, he told em he was pouring water in direction of his fields in Kartarpur and reminded them, if water could reach their anscestors it could reach his fields too. The point here is Guru questioned the STATUS QUO, there is nothing wrong in going deep in History and finding answers to questions that come to your mind.

I am not a believer in supression of mind,free will or inquisitiveness, and neither did any Prophet preach supression of mind, be it Guru Nanak, Prophet Mohamad or Jesus Christ...Regards.

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Name: asif riaz - April 22 2004 E-mail: sayyal454@yahoo.com Location: sahiwal, pakistan Comments: welcome to zahir on apnaorg

Name: Akhilesh - April 22 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: PunjabiG, here are two good articles on different types of Punjabi dances: The evergreen folk dances of Punjab

Punjabi dances

_detail.asp?ID=50 This a good news from Daily Times: Tourism to put Lahore, Punjab on the map

=story_22-4-2004_pg7_20 From what i have read about Chief Minister Pervaiz Elahi i like. He seems to be a leader with vision, which unfortunately Chief Ministers of East Punjab seem to lack...

Name: Baljit Grewal - April 21 2004 E-mail: balgre86@aut.ac.nz Location: Auckland, AKL NZ Comments: Dear PunjabiG, I do not know about the "shand" that you mentioned in your post but based on the information of the singers that you provided I will make a guess. Actually the singer of shehr patiale de fame is not Hardeep Gill but simply Hardeep. Hardeep Gill is a new singer. I can make a guess that if it is the other Hardeep, then his troupe might have included a singer by the name of Bhupinder Babbal from Sector 43 Chandigarh. He is the best exponent of Mirza that I have ever heard and he is interested in singing rarely sung folk songs. He has a long hek, though his voice is not so high pitched. His other popular songs include "jutti kare mutiyar di chikun-chikun" and "mundiyo aa gayi oye, sir te gagar rakhi". He was popular among the chandigarh youth crowd in late 80's and early 90's and has faded since though his other contemporaries like Bindrakhia made it big. Infact Bindrakhia also started off as a "filler" in Hardeep's shows. I remember that Bhupinder has recorded a rarely sung "kali" called "milkhi ram di kali" and he is good. I hope this information helps. Other people who might have sung this type of shand is singer Pammi Bai who worked at the North Zone Cultural Centre in Patiala. North Zone Cultural Centre was also responsible for bringing into limelight another offbeat tradition - "babian da giddha". Some even call it the "Malwayi Giddha" but it was made famous by some old men (babas) from Sunam near Patiala. Baljit

Name: Rupe - April 21 2004 E-mail: rupe@panindia.com Location: London, Uk Comments: Dear All,

I know this has no direct link with Punjabi, But I am looking for a vacancy as an Assitant Accountant in the Reigate and Crawley area in the Uk. If anyone knows any positions going , please let me know on this forum.

Regards, rupe

Name: PunjabiG - April 21 2004 E-mail: PunjabiG@yahoo.com My URL: Barran Kala Shand?? Comments: Dear Apneo, Coming back to our general discussions on Punjabi Music and folk songs, Can anyone tell me about "Barran Kala Shand". It is sung in different way, sort of like "Heer" but I don't know any lyrics to it. I remember few years back, there were group of Punjabi Singers in charde Punjab including Hardeep Gill (Shehar Patiale de fame!)who were really good and one of them sang Baran Kala Shand. I was little back then to understand it, so never really got the lyrics but I have been searching for it. If APNA members have it, can you post it on the web or e-mail me the file, or even the lyrics. I kind of have an idea on how its sung (with lambi Hek..) but would love to hear it. I am trying to collect older styles of Punjabi Folk Music..other than Bhangra/ Giddha et al..Dhamaal, thumri, kikli, Zhoomar etc. Please also tell me if there are any other kinds of folk dances/music which I may not have heard of!

Name: Akhilesh - April 21 2004 E-mail: HiTMaN9497@aol.com Location: , Europe Comments: Good site on Nankana Sahib. I read an article the other day about the 'World Sikh' community (or something) is interested in investing "1 billion US$" in Pakistan and would like to open a medical college at Nankana Sahib. I hope this will actually take place and is not just "talk".

Name: RAI SAHIB - April 21 2004 E-mail: raifarid@hotmail.com Location: NANKANASAHIB, PUNJAB PAKISTAN Comments: DEAR FARHAT KHAN, I WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AS MY GUEST.CONSIDER ME AS YOUR BROTHER. REGARDS

Name: farhat khan - April 21 2004 E-mail: farhatkhan5@hotmail.com Location: Chicago , Ill USA Comments: Rai Sahib,I really appreciate your views and wish more people in this world adhered to them. By the way my ancestoral home is Nankana Sahib District. My sister-in -law was there a few months back and made it a point to take her two boys to the Gurdawara Sahib to pay respect.I hope to do the same in the near future. Be well.

Name: RAI SAHIB - April 21 2004 E-mail: raifarid@hotmail.com Location: NANKANA SAHIB, PUNJAB PAKISTAN Comments: IT IS THE GOOD DEEDS OF MEN THAT IS REMEMBERED.INTENTIONS ARE ONLY KNOWN TO GOD. INSAAN ZINDABAD. RAI FARID

Name: RAI FARID - April 21 2004 E-mail: raifarid@hotmail.com Location: NANKANA SAHIB, PUNJAB PAKISTAN Comments: DEAR SARDAR GI, I MUST START BY REMINDING YOU THAT I DIDNOT INFORM YOU THE THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF LANDS WERE GIVEN TO GURU NANAK GI.ACCORDING TO THE HISTORY,RAI SAHIB HAD ADOPTED GURU NANAK AS HIS SON.AS TRIDITION GOES HE GIFTED HIM HALF HIS PROPERTY WHICH WAS LATER TRANSFERRED TO THE GURDUWARAS AS PROMISED.THE LANDS LEASE IS STILL BEING UTILIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESTORATION OF GURDUWARAS AND HELPING SIKHS PERFORM THE PILGRIM. LET ME ADD TO YOUR INFORMATION THAT MY GRANDFATHER IS THE BIGGEST LANDLORD IN PUNJAB.HE HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SINCE THE BIRTH OF PAKISTAN.HE HAS REPEATEDLY RAISED THE QUESTION OF SIKH RIGHTS IN AND OUTSIDE PAKISTAN.THE ONLY REASON I AM TELLING YOU THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN CUNNING ENOUGH TO CHALLENGE YOUR OWN HISTORY AND IN DOING THAT YOU HAVE ALSO QUESTIONED THE DIGNITY OF MY FAMILY.I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE LEADERSHIP ROLE FOR MY CONSTITUENCY AND MY FAMILY.I MUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COULD DEFAME MY FAMILIES NAME. I SHALL ADVICE YOU THEREFORE NOT TO DEFAME YOUR OWN AND NOT GO SO DEEP INTO HISTORY, THAT YOU GET CONFUSED. INSAAN ZINDABAAD REGARDS

Name: Sardarz - April 21 2004 E-mail: gugfV@yahoo.com Comments: Zahra Ji,

Welcome back, whats up with the new middle name ? was it always there or have you newly accquired it,making it a occassion for some VadhiyaaN?

Did you want to say PUNJABI and misspelled it by writing URDU or were you actually talking about urdu ? Regards.

Name: Sardarz - April 21 2004 E-mail: sfatyftyfty@yahoo.com Comments: Rai Farid Ji,

Intresting facts about Rai Bular,his deeds and his clan. Going thru the site and the facts presented there in brought up a few questions that I could not answer, so Pls.help me out.. -Per the site Rai Bular gave half his landed property to the tunes of thousands of acres to Guru Nanak, if thats the case why did Guru Nanak spend his last days farming in KARTARPUR, or was that a part of Rai Bular's gift too ?

-Was the land given by Rai Bular passed on to Guru Nanak's decendents or the Guru's that followed him like Guru Angad,Guru Amardas...if not, why?

-It is clear from the site at present Rai Bular's decendants farm the land,do ALL the proceeds go to the benefit of the families that farm it, if not how are they handled and distributed ? Regards.

Name: Gul Zahra Jamshed - April 21 2004 E-mail: zara_opal_lib@yahoo.com Location: Islamabad, Pakistan Comments: I have always had a problem in learning urdu properly. My life a roll in postings deprived me the chance to adhere to this language as much as i would have wanted to. Lack of skill and thereon dedication led me to speak more english than urdu. Now, i seem to speak as though i didnt belong to this country. But nonetheless, my love for it is immense, and no matter what medium i might use to express myself, it doesnt make me any less patriotic than the day i was born.

Name: Javed Zaki - April 20 2004 E-mail: zakimoha@msu.edu Comments: Rammah Ji. A dear friend (Dr. Jaswant Singh) got me in touch with people who run Punjbai literary forum "QalmaaN da Qaafla" in Toronto. They will have a poetry recitation session with me on Saturday, May 8. Javed Zaki

Name: Javed Zaki - April 20 2004 E-mail: zakimoha@msu.edu Comments: Sajno. Ik neviN nazam haazar e.