Videotaped Interviews, Graphic Novels and Comics as Testimony
Graphic novels are emerging as a more survivor-centred and empowering alternative to traditional video interviews for documenting survivor testimonies. In the webinar Empowering Narratives: Videotaped Interviews vs. Graphic Novels, Dr. Uğur Ümit Üngör and Dr. Peter Klein explored the ethical and methodological concerns surrounding videotaped interviews, and how graphic novels can act as a compassionate and collaborative form of visual survivor narratives. The key takeaways on empowering methodologies of creating visual testimonies are reflected in the following themes: Graphic novels as a more survivor-centred means of crafting testimonies, gently leaving space for imagination through graphic novels, and toward trauma-informed approaches to interviewing and creating graphic novels.
Traditional video interviews have long been used to document survivor testimonies, powerfully documenting physical and visual cues, but they also pose significant ethical challenges. In many authoritarian regimes, the camera is not merely a recording device—it is an instrument of control and coercion. Dr. Üngör described his research with torture survivors in Syria, where videotaped interviews are a source of anxiety for survivors.
"It has difficult and very different connotations in specific societies, especially authoritarian societies, where the camera is not just an innocuous, innocent piece of technology, but it is a weapon," he explained. Often, video interviews act as “forced confessions” and “an orchestrated performance” used to intimidate dissent and manipulate public opinion.
In contrast, graphic novels as a tool of engagement offer a more ethical and survivor-centred approach to testimony collection because they do not require direct visual identification and create a safer space for survivors to share their experiences without fear of retribution. Additionally, graphic narratives allow for a more nuanced representation of memory, accommodating fragmented recollections that may not fit within the linear constraints of video interviews. “For a lot of survivors, the violence is often remembered in terms of flashes,” Dr. Üngör noted. “The frames, for example, that graphic novels make often represent such flashes of memory.” Another gap graphic novels fill is their ability to depict stories of extreme violence, many of which lack photographic or video documentation.
Dr. Klein touched on the critical issue of “factions” who deny genocides and other atrocities. He asked, “Is there a risk in taking away the sort of visceral nature of filmed testimony in further undermining trust in and belief in these atrocities?”
Dr. Üngör countered that even documented footage is susceptible to denial. He cautioned that genocide deniers will may deny the reality of recordings of actual violence, calling them AI-doctored videos and deep fakes. He also argued that instead of focusing on confronting perpetrators, the focus should be on ensuring survivors are treated with respect and sensitivity, rather than being subjected to the sensationalist and invasive approaches often found in media coverage.
As Dr. Üngör observed with Syrian survivors, graphic novels present a gentler and less invasive method of documenting stories from survivors in contrast to videotaped interviews which may expose them to secondary trauma. The medium of graphic novels allows survivors to share their stories in a way that is neither overwhelming nor retraumatizing, offering a means of testimony that prioritizes their well-being.
Dr. Klein also explored the possibility of blending real archival material with graphic representation. Particularly, he asked whether real photos or video stills should be integrated into visual storytelling like in Maus, Art Spiegelman’s graphic novel recounting the experiences of his father during the Holocaust by illustrating Jews as mice and Nazis as cats.
Dr. Üngör supported the idea of incorporating multiple media, highlighting that graphic novels allow storytellers to “leave much of the kind of the scale of the violence or the depth of the violence to the imagination of the reader or the viewer,” provided that readers have a strong imaginative capacity. Rather than overwhelming and alienating readers, he suggested that sometimes the approach should follow the principle of “tell, do not show.”
Maus: A Survivor’s Tale (1991), cover of graphic novel by Art Spiegelman
Another shortcoming of videotaped interviews is the potential for retraumatizing survivors. However, this risk is also present in the creation of graphic novels, since, as Dr. Klein noted, “to write a graphic novel, you still need to know their story. You still have to interview them in one way or another.”
Dr. Üngör responded by explaining that retraumatization “…depends on three elements: the society in which somebody is placed, is living in, or feels safe or not; the personality of the survivor; and the interviewer who approaches the survivor to elicit the story.” Researchers and graphic novelists must be aware of their sociopolitical constraints and affordances, including privileges and biases, and whether survivors have developed avoidance due to trauma or resilience as a result of post-traumatic growth.
Dr. Klein shared that at the Global Reporting Centre at UBC, there’s an emerging movement toward empowerment journalism, which counters “top-down, outsider-in, tell me your trauma story on camera” approaches. As Dr. Üngör put it, constructing survivors’ stories in a trauma-informed way requires creating empowering spaces where people are able to curate and narrate their own stories. During some of his interviews with Syrians, he would sometimes see such empowerment in safe, one-on-one settings or small groups, where survivors “very often would pull out pieces of paper and a pen and start drawing, for example, to explain how the torture implement worked, or how it looked.”
Providing survivors with multiple modes of expression, including drawing, can offer a more compassionate and flexible approach to storytelling. Referring to these modes of meaning-making, Dr. Üngör noted, “They are not necessarily zero-sum. It is not that one is good, the other one is bad.” Graphic novels as a critical tool of inquiry offer a survivor-centred, ethical alternative to traditional videotaped testimonies because they navigate ethical challenges posed by cameras, allowing survivors to retain agency in shaping their narratives, and create opportunities for more trauma-informed storytelling. As Dr. Klein concluded, “we all need to have a responsibility to find new ways” to a more humane and respectful approach to documenting survivor experiences.
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The cover of the graphic novel Emmie Arbel: Die Farbe der Erinnerung (2022)
Visual arts-based methodologies create unique opportunities to engage with memory and testimony, especially in the context of trauma-informed storytelling. Through the “Drawing Memories” webinar, graphic novelist Barbara Yelin and historian Dr. Charlotte Schallié explored the collaborative storytelling process behind Emmie Arbel. The Color of Memory (2023), which has been translated to date from German to English, French and Spanish. In exploration, there are some key insights organized around two themes: drawing as a multi-layered colourful language of documenting memory, and collaborative care in survivor-centred narratives.
Barbara Yelin’s collaboration with Holocaust survivor Emmie Arbel reveals the power of visual storytelling as a tool for engaging with memories that defy easy articulation. Emmie Arbel’s initial testimony comprised only seven written pages, but through their collaboration, her story expanded into a graphic novel spanning 164 pages and over 900 illustrations. As Yelin explains, this multi-layered process—illustrated in the sketch below—involved detailing the story in notes, creating storyboards, and matching words with images:
“So, the basis [for my drawings] have been the words of Emmie and our conversations. And there are sentences in the beginning that I note on a paper, but that was the very beginning. But then very quickly I was starting to draw storyboards, and there I tried to combine which parts of the words I wanted to use, and which parts I wanted to combine with which images.”
Sketches illustrating Yelin’s creative process
Putting together puzzles of Emmie’s blurry yet engraved memories
Yelin described this process as “puzzle memory work,” where fragments of Emmie Arbel’s memories—some vivid, others blurred or reconstructed—came together to create a narrative that honoured the survivor's lived experience. Central to their approach was the understanding that memory is not linear or complete, which allowed holding space for Emmie Arbel’s memories that cannot be traced back anymore. Emmie Arbel often shared memories accompanied by the phrase, “Some things I know, but I don’t remember them.” Yelin’s drawings embraced this uncertainty, incorporating abstract imagery and colour to channel the emotional texture of memory. For instance, she used black to represent Emmie Arbel’s darkest moments during the Holocaust, warm browns and oranges for her life in Israel, and blues to evoke her family’s pre-war life in the Netherlands.
Yelin noted, “These memories intrude the present. So, there is that the time—the past and the present—is actually at the same time for her sometimes. So, I tried to show this really by building these scenes.” The blending of past and present was not only a stylistic choice for Barbara Yelin but also a reflection of how trauma inhabits survivors’ lives, because Emmie Arbel’s memories of the Holocaust were often intertwined with her current experiences. As Dr. Schallié observed, this graphic novel “draws attention to the multilayeredness of voices, of perspectives and of time periods.” This approach highlights how abstract imagery, colour, and non-linear storytelling can represent the gaps and ambiguities of memory, while revealing the emotional and relational dimensions of survivor experiences.
The development of The Color of Memory was deeply collaborative and transparent, ensuring that Emmie Arbel had control over how her story was crafted. This extended to decisions about what to include in the graphic novel, with Emmie actively guiding the narrative. Yelin shared, “It was always a process of a dialogue, which was again then depicted into the sketches and the images.” In this dialogic process, Emmie Arbel generously allowed Yelin to represent her lived experiences “in the most open artistic style.” As illustrated in the panel, making the graphic novel more transparent also included acknowledging Yelin’s subjectivity in co-creating the story pieced together from accounts of Emmie Arbel’s memories.
Embodying a circle of collaborative work, this project also drew on the expertise of historians, trauma experts, and other researchers. This community of care around Emmie Arbel’s story aimed to make the graphic novel both historically accurate and emotionally sensitive. For Yelin, this collaboration was a learning process: “Drawing is always the way for me to come closer to a story, to history, to parts of history. Because when I draw, I think about questions. I find questions that I didn't even know that I would have them.”
Through The Color of Memory, Barbara Yelin and Emmie Arbel demonstrated how graphic novels can transcend the limitations of traditional testimonies, creating a space where memory—with all its layers, textures, and gaps—can be witnessed and preserved. Researchers interested in arts-based, trauma-informed methodologies are encouraged to embrace the dialogic and dynamic process of documenting complex survivor memories through interdisciplinary collaboration and care.
The dialogic process of crafting Emmie’s narrative
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Visual arts-based methodologies, like comics, hold transformative potential for engaging with overlooked histories, sometimes traumatic memories, and the complex process of remembering. In the webinar “Why Comics?”, Dr. Véronique Sina and Dr. Fransiska Louwagie, alongside Dr. Elizabeth “Biz” Nijdam, shed light on the unique affordances of comics as a legitimate medium for research and storytelling. They emphasized that comics do not need to be “upgraded” by being called graphic novels, graphic narratives, or autographics in English, and bande dessinée or bédé in French. As Dr. Biz Nijdam synthesized their response, “It's a little bit of advocacy, a little bit of anti-capitalist work, I think, to embrace the term comics.” Further exploring their insights, this toolkit chapter focuses on comics as a counter-documentary approach to representing fragmented memories, and as a collaboration of participatory, ethical, engaging and interdisciplinary nature.
Comics are uniquely suited to revealing the fragmented, non-linear nature of memory, particularly in the context of traumatic survivor narratives. As Dr. Veronique Sina emphasized, comics are not merely a subgenre of literature or a form of entertainment; they are a distinct medium with their own “toolbox” of techniques, which challenge traditional forms of historiography by offering a counter-documentary approach. Unlike photography or film, which often claim a direct, indexical relationship to reality, comics are inherently mediated. The hand-drawn nature of comics draws attention to the role of artist’s subjectivity in shaping the narrative of fragmented, non-linear memories through the interplay of images and text, the use of sequential art, and juxtaposition of past and present within a single panel. Dr. Sina explained that comics can draw attention to the fact that “there is no such thing as an unmediated image of memory or the Holocaust or things in the past, because everything is mediated in some way.”
This mediated nature also connects to the concept of postmemory, a term coined by Marianne Hirsch to describe the relationship of subsequent generations to traumatic events they did not experience firsthand. Dr. Fransiska Louwagie explained that comics, through their fragmented and sequential structure, can deeply engage with the complexities of post memory. As a second-generation Holocaust survivor, Michel Kichka (2012) reflects on his post memory in cartoon-like Deuxième Génération: Ce Que Je N’ai Pas Dit À Mon Père (Second Generation: What I Didn't Tell My Father), layering constructed family images and redrawn historical Holocaust images with speech and thought bubbles. Dr. Louwagie observed that the already mediated images of Kichka’s family filled with unspoken tensions are further “deconstructed through the speech bubbles, through the thought bubbles that are being in there and that already show those kinds of tensions that the comic medium can portray and kind of leave for the reader to discover.”
In the comics anthology But I Live, the artists reflect the diverse experiences of the survivors of the Holocaust through different artistic styles. Miriam Libicki’s childlike, fairy-tale-inspired illustrations contrast with Gilad Seliktar’s minimalist, frameless approach, and Barbara Yelin’s watercolour paintings. These varying styles further underscore the idea that there is no single way to represent the Holocaust or any traumatic event. Instead, comics allow for multiple perspectives, each contributing to a richer, more nuanced understanding of survivor histories.
Three different stories in But I Live represented through varying comics styles
One of the most compelling aspects of comics is their collaborative potential. Dr. Louwagie noted that the medium often involves a dialogue between the artist, the survivor and sometimes their community, creating a space for co-creation grounded in mutual respect. This collaborative process is central to participatory action research projects like But I Live, where graphic novelists work closely with survivors and community partners to craft their narratives ethically. The idea of collaboration also extends to readers, as their understanding of survivor narratives may be facilitated through “the conversation between artists and survivors.” By offering readers a space to process, comics become a medium of dialogue rather than a one-sided narrative.
Moreover, comics can also be collaborative in their production process, involving pencilers, inkers, colourists, and letterers. This teamwork mirrors the interdisciplinary nature of comic studies itself, which draws from fields such as media studies, literature, and art history. As Dr. Sina pointed out, “We really need interdisciplinary work coming from different disciplines, different perspectives, different backgrounds, because, in fact, I know nobody who had the possibility to study comics as an academic discipline. We all came from another background.” This interdisciplinary approach is essential to understand the full potential of comics as a medium for art-based research, and like Dr. Biz Nijdam highlighted, “to theorize the work of comics.”
So, why comics? The short answer is “to keep remembering.” For researchers interested in visual arts-based methodologies, comics offer a versatile and inclusive medium for critically and ethically co-constructing narratives of survivors whose histories are complex, fragmented, or silenced. Through stories like But I Live and Deuxième Génération: Ce Que Je N’ai Pas Dit A Mon Pere, comics have established themselves as a legitimate and powerful form of commemoration.
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Contemporary critical art-based research methodologies—such as comics which creatively blend visual and textual storytelling—invite us to rethink traditional ways of producing and sharing knowledge. Drawing from their comics-engaged research expertise and projects, emerging scholars Raey Costain and Cal Smith demonstrate how this methodology can serve as a medium for connection, care, and the preservation of untold histories. Additionally, they position comics as a form of graphic medicine, offering a way to think through embodied experiences.
Representation of gender identity in Raey Costain’s comics
Comics can serve as a reflective and tactile process that transforms the way researchers engage with their work and participants. Raey Costain emphasizes that rather than focusing on technical or aesthetic mastery, autoethnographic comics is a potent means of slowing down and connecting. By sketching out participants’ stories, researchers can cultivate a deeper sense of empathy and understanding, particularly in projects involving fast-paced or ephemeral experiences, such as digital ethnography on platforms like TikTok.
As Raey Costain emphasized, “Drawing affirms identity by representing both physicality and experiences beyond the body.” In comics-engaged research, drawing may be a tool not only to stimulate imagination but also to foster connection and promote care. Comics allow for a slower, more deliberate engagement with participants’ words and expressions, opening a space for thoughtful interaction. As a form of graphic medicine, drawing has therapeutic potential not only for participants but also for researchers to process complex emotions and experiences. For instance, participants and researchers can engage in co-creative practices, such as drawings together on the same piece of paper, which helps balance power dynamics and foster mutual respect and understanding.
Drawing does not need to be exclusive or technically advanced. Simple, unpolished sketches can hold immense power as a methodology for documentation of experiences and dialogue. As Raey Costain noted:
“I’m a little bit less concerned with things like aesthetic or artistic merit. I'm very much focused on how drawing as a kind of tactile process impacts the way that I think and the way that I understand my work and the stories and the people that I'm engaging with. Drawing for me is really just a way of thinking on paper."
An excerpt from XTRA West on raising funds for Little Sister’s legal defence
Comics also hold great potential as a medium for preserving overlooked narratives and cultural histories by focusing on personal stories. Through his archival research about Gary Probe’s single-panel comics in XTRA West from the 1990s, Cal Smith provides a window into Vancouver’s queer community, its struggles and triumphs against the sociopolitical backdrop of that period. Probe’s involvement in initiatives like Little Sister’s [an independent queer bookstore] legal defence fund serves as a testament to how comics can intersect with activism, using art as a means of advocacy and solidarity.
Archival comics-engaged research may involve leveraging social media platforms to connect with creators and their communities, accessing newspaper collections through institutions like the City of Vancouver BC Gay and Lesbian archives, and examining dozens of historical publications.
To make his information-rich methodology rigorous, Cal harnessed a specific digital tool:
“I’ve been using this application called Drafts Pro that supports an infinite background or blackboard kind of setup. I’m sure everyone can picture a detective board with all those pins, with a map, going from one point to another.”
Researchers are encouraged to engage with comics as a way to document and reflect on what Dionne Brand (as cited by Cal Smith) calls “unacknowledged histories,” which “continue to produce symptoms.” By shedding light on personal and cultural histories, particularly those from marginalized communities, researchers can enrich our understanding of the past while mitigating the perpetuation of painful symptoms. It is essential, however, to handle creators’ work with ethical care, ensuring that research involving personal or community histories always prioritizes respect and collaboration.
Comics, as discussed by Raey Costain and Cal Smith, offer a versatile and powerful medium for art-based research. They lend themselves well to engaging deeply with participants, navigating ethical complexities, and uncovering hidden histories. Researchers interested in comics-engaged research may want to embrace comics’ capacity for care, connection, and advocacy to tell stories in a more inclusive and empathetic manner.
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