01 - The Forgotten Plantation

The first objective is to talk to Glenton so head to location 1 on the map. Since this objective is currently active, Glenton has a conspicuous exclamation point over his head. Anytime you see this, it indicates a quest objective can be completed.

There are a few points of interest in Glenton’s Estate:

A - At Glenton’s stove, Ardus can cook a meal that will fully restore the party’s WP and EP.

Easter Egg: There is a chance that Ardus will fail spectacularly at cooking eggs. The chance of failure is Ardus’ Regret stat. If Ardus blows up the eggs on accident, then the entire party’s Regret increases by 1 point.

B - A copy of Bertrand Vincent’s “History of Glass”

Creator Commentary: The description of the book is a not-too-subtle reference to the character of Vincent from Silent Hill 3.

C - Entrance into the Forgotten Plantation

D - New Equipment: A copy of Russel Saldor’s “Lion’s Den”

E - A copy of Glenton’s contract with Powell-Mercer

F - Glenton Dahl himself

After chatting with Glenton at point F, he directs the party to talk to Cynthia Hadrospec at the Seaside Inn and Suites.

2. Meet with Cynthia at the Seaside Inn and Suites.

Head to point 4 on the Ordolus City Map to find the Seaside Inn and Suites where Cynthia Hadrospec is staying. Walk inside. At the north-west end of the Inn are three staircases. The middle staircase has a sign with an exclamation point over it. This means it is part of our quest. The sign reads: Room 202 “Crab Suite”. Enter the room and talk to Cynthia to complete the objective and move on with the quest.

Creator Commentary: The line from John, “I like your glasses” is another quote from the short-lived Comedy Central show Stella bringing the amount of direct references so far up to 2. I...really like that show. But I digress!

Let’s take a look at Cynthia’s starting equipment:

Cynthia’s special ability during rhetorical battles is investigation. Each time she investigates a particular type of enemy, knowledge of that enemy gets written into her notebook. Each enemy type can be researched up to ten times and Cynthia’s special abilities will gain power as the knowledge of her foes increases.

Cynthia also starts with a few skills she is learning from her former professor, Astor Brennan:

You can also face Strawmen and Vonleys inside the Forgotten Plantation, but they are considered Mindscape rather than Plantation enemies and are explained in a different section.

Point A contains our very first treasure in the game! It’s a Window of Opportunity. Since the Mindscape isn’t “real” (note: loaded terminology!) like the waking world, you can’t actually bring things out of the dreamworld. But since the dreamworld is a mental realm, the items in the Mindscape are abstract representations of inspiration or insight. Thus a Window of Opportunity can be sold for 100 gold because you have insight into bartering for goods that you didn’t have before.

We haven’t picked up the treasure at point O yet, but we will shortly! Climb back up to the Attic and then walk to Exit 1 which will drop the party down into the southwest quadrant of 1F (near where we started the very first time we came in). Our next goal is to head to point O in the south-east quadrant. Inside the treasure chest are three more semblances of practice.

Head up and around to Point J which is a treasure chest containing an Essence of Practice. This item is a more rare version of the Semblance of Practice.

The Convincing Smile is a permanent stat boosting item. This will raise one character’s Persuasion stat by 10. After getting the new item, head down exit 2. On the way, you’ll pass by a very fast moving enemy. If you don’t want to fight it just stand perfectly still! It will pass through you if you don’t make any sudden movements. Exit 2 will drop us back into 1F. The party will land on the pot that was blocking the path to point I earlier. Head up into the alcove, fight the Justified Accusation and open the treasure at point I for a rare item called an Epiphany.

If you are intent on beating one of these things, first get up to Research Level 10 with Cynthia. Then apply a Logos state with Ardus. After that, and assuming your party is around level 3 at least, it is a damage race with Ardus using Pathos Argument, John using Accusation and Cynthia using her level 10 Thesis.

Whether or not you decide to fight the optional tile enemies, the next step is to go to the second floor through the large staircase just north of the green tile rooms.

We’re back on 2F now; this time we entered through Exit 3. Area B is filled with more Cursed Tiles so watch your step! Head over to point C to get a treasure chest containing three Vicariousness of Experience items. This grandiose sounding item will give a single character 50 experience points when used.

Exit the dungeon through the beds at point D. This will activate the third of the crab statue warp points. After recovering your WP and EP at Glenton’s stove, return to point D by using the “2nd Floor Bedroom” crab statue fast travel point.

Head east to point E to find the final treasure on 2F, Dollop’s Crown. You’ll notice there is another exit to this map: Exit 4. We won’t be using that until a much later quest, so we’ll ignore it for now.

Creator Commentary: Modus Ponens is Latin for “the way that affirms by affirming” and is a basic construction in propositional logic. Basically, If P, then Q. P is true, therefore Q is true. This is the reason the attack animation has Ps and Qs flying around on screen.

Ardus’ Reason ability applies the logos state to an enemy. This puts a green diamond over their name. When in the logos state, they will take twice as much damage from pathos attacks. This means that John’s Accusation skill (and others) will do much more willpower damage. Modus Ponens is Ardus’ first high damaging skill and should be used on enemies in the ethos state to get the most of its purely logos damage.

John learns Deep Breath at level 2 and is great for removing elemental states like pathos, logos and ethos. Backhanded Compliment is the first proper healing skill in the game and should be used frequently in between encounters. Finally, at level 5 John learns Accusation which rounds out the basic elemental skills he has.

Cynthia learns Interrogate at level 3, which is a version of Investigate that also deals ethos damage to the target.

Before facing Narroden, we want to stock up on consumable items from Sindarin’s Shop in Ordolus. Sindarin’s shop is located in the south-east part of town. If you can’t find it, remember that you have a map of the city accessible from the MacGuffin’s section of the Item menu.

At Sindarin’s shop, we’re going to purchase everything we can. He sells Energy Drinks (buy 10),

Memory Roots (buy 10), Smelling Salts (buy 5), and Placebo Supplements (buy 5). The last item is new to us!

You’ll notice that items do not cost any money in the Logomancer. Ardus explains this is because Powell-Mercer, the company both Ardus and John work for, is covering their expenses. You will still have to spend your own money on books and clothing, though.

Creator Commentary: The inspiration for having a limited number of healing items that are free to buy, but require visiting a specific location to replenish comes from the Estus flask healing system in Dark Souls. In that game, you have a limited number of healing drinks that are replenished each time you make it to a new bonfire (checkpoint). This way you have both limited and unlimited healing. It neatly solves the issue of farming for healing grasses that was prominent in Demon’s Souls, Dark Souls’ spiritual predecessor.

Now with a full stock of healing items, return to Narroden inside the Forgotten Plantation Sanctum and begin the fight!

Every three turns, Narroden will change its color. The color of its veins is the key to understanding its current weakness. When it is blue, use logos attacks; when it’s red, use ethos attacks; when it’s green, use pathos attacks. It is important to optimize your damage output each round, especially since it will learn some new tricks once it is almost defeated. Each time Narroden shifts its color, it will use Empty Mind on the party. This will clear any elemental states like logos, pathos or ethos. It will also automatically use the EP Drain ability which will steal 50% EP from a random party member. If Narroden ever runs out of EP it will use the Grayscale ability to cannibalize its own WP to restore its EP.

When Narroden is blue, it can use Morality Play (ethos damage) or Second Wind (heals its WP). During this phase, Ardus should be using Modus Ponens, John should be using Syllogism and Cynthia should be using Thesis or a healing item if needed.

When Narroden is red, it can use Accusation (pathos damage) and Pathos Argument (pathos damage). During this phase, Ardus should use Ethos Argument, John should use Morality Play and Cynthia should use Interrogate as much as possible.

When Narroden is green, it can use Moralize All (applies ethos state to whole party) and Syllogism (logos damage). Ardus should use PAthos Argument, John should use Accusation and Cynthia should use Thesis or a Placebo Supplement if there is time. Since being hit with Syllogism while under the ethos state is actually not very damaging, this is a good phase to heal and recover EP.

During any phase, Narroden can use Indictment which will hit the entire party for moderate verbal damage.

Once Narroden has less than 33% EP left, it can use the Grayscale skill which will halve its current WP in order to restore all of its EP.

Finally, once Narroden has less than 33% WP left, it has a chance to use Call of the Void which does a high amount of verbal damage to a single party member.

Assuming a bit of luck and judicious use of Smelling Salts, even a party at level 5 can beat Narroden. Enjoy your victory! Exit the Mindscape and return to Glenton to complete the quest.

8. Return to Glenton.

With Narroden defeated, all that remains is to talk with Glenton to finalize his contract with Powell-Mercer. Congratulations on completing the first and only required quest in the Logomancer! If you wanted to, you could leave Ordolus, head east along the coast a few screens and then head north to New Cadence to beat the game. I’d recommend going through the other quests first, though, because the ending expands for each new person you’ve helped and each new secret you’ve uncovered.

The reward for completing Glenton’s quest is a new lesson that can be equipped by any of the party members. Glenton Dahl teaches the Prismatic Claw and Fantastic Pun skills.

“Then consider it an indictment of humanity that compassion would be so unusual a quality that even its glimmer could inspire a profound life change.” - Glenton Dahl

The previous part of the walkthrough was the Introduction, the next part is The Forgotten Chests