6 PDFS containing the Dreams of Visions of Jeanine Sautron:
Cindy's first contact with Roy L. Lemke: 2/13/16 @ 10pm CST:
First talked to Roy on 2/13/16 at 8:00pm his time in Oregon - 10:00pm CST my time in Missouri. I reached him the first time on this number: 541-521-5736, given to me by his secretary, Donna Leah (USA Secretary for Roy Lemke) Cell # 541-225-8261.
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Email #1 from Roy to Cindy after Cindy's first call to Roy on 2/13/16:
From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM
Subject: Nice talking to you! Attached is D&V 23-150 in PDF format.
To: WeddingPartyProcession@gmail.com
Attached is Dreams and Visions 487 by Jeanine Sautron, that I have scheduled for study on February 20, 2016, and a "Three Angels Righteousness by Faith" study for February 27, 2016.
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Email #1 from Cindy to Reply to Roy's email:
-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
To: Roy Lemke
Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 6:50 am
Subject: Fwd: Nice talking to you! Attached is D&V 23-150 in PDF format.
Hi Brother Lemke,
I certainly appreciated our phone visit last night. So happy to learn you are a true God believer. A very serious issue these days!
I look forward to digesting the information you sent me this morning! Thank you for it. Do you have the whole 2,500 pages Jeanine Sautron wrote, that you mentioned last night in PDF format? I would like that as well.
Here's the booklet I put to.gether about James White 4 years ago:
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
English--Righteousness by Faith--487 Dreams amd...
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Here is a image/pic I made about the apostatized SDA church today:
May God bless you greatly as you seek to serve Him,
In hope, I am,
Cindy Haynes
573-351-1111 home
573-996-6401 cell/text
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Email #2 from Cindy to Roy:
-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
To: Roy Lemke
Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 7:04 am
Subject: I found a pic of you (I think it's you!) I was doodling with your pic and made this while I was talking on the phone... hope you like it! :) Cindy Haynes
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Roy's reply to Cindy's 2nd email to Roy:
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Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:00 PM
Subject: Attached is D&V 1-22 and 151-242 in PDF format.
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
Attached is D&V 1-22 and 151-242 in PDF format.
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Roy Lemke
From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: I found a pic of you (I think it's you!) I was doodling with your pic and made this while I was talking on the phone... hope you like it! :) Cindy Haynes
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
Yes, it is me, a few years ago.
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Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:01 PM
Subject: Attached is D&V 243-271 in PDF format.
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
Attached is D&V 243-271 in PDF format.
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Roy Lemke
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Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
Roy Lemke
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com> wrote:
Attached is D&V 272-487 in PDF format.
Roy Lemke
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings! Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
Roy Lemke
From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:09 PM
Subject: MP3 files on DVD
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
If you prefer to listen to D&V MP3 files, I can send you a DVD with all of the MP3 recordings on it of D&V.
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: MP3 files on DVD
To: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Dear Brother Lemke,
That sounds good. Yes, I do listen to Ellen White on audio a lot.
Thank you.
Cindy
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: MP3 files on DVD
To: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Hi Brother Lemke,
If you can email them and mail them that would be good...I listen to them both ways....
My mailing address is:
Cindy Haynes
P. O. Box 125
Doniphan, MO 63935-0125
Let me know how much I owe you.
Cindy Haynes
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:01 AM
Subject: Fwd: Not to be posted on the Internet!
To: Roy Lemke
Dear Brother Lemke,
What is there any other reasoning behind her request other than what you mentioned in your email to me? Is this a command from Jesus to her to follow? If so, I would be interested to read the command verbatim.
May God bless you richly as you seek to serve Him alone.
In hope, I am,
Cindy Haynes
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
Roy Lemke
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:57 PM
Subject: Not to be posted on the Internet!
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
Jeanine Sautron has forbidden her writings (or any part of them) to be posted anywhere on the Internet. So I am requesting that you keep the Dreams and Visions confidential and DO NOT PUBLISH any of them. I know that there might be a temptation to post some of the "world events" prophecies so that people can be warned, but the warning would do no good, and the people would NOT take the warning.
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Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: MP3 files on DVD
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
The Dreams and Visions are recorded to fit on one DVD MP3 disk. That ONE DVD disk holds the whole 170 hours and 20 minutes of Dreams and Visions. It is 4.13 GB of data MP3 files.
It is not practical for me to send 170 hours of D&V MP3 files by email.
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Not to be posted on the Internet!
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
There are many reasons, both the messages from Jesus himself, and from the illegality of it. In France, Jeanine Sautron has been ordered in the courts not to publish Dreams and Visions. If it is so published, she will be sent to jail and fined AGAIN. The last fine she received, if I remember correctly was $105,000.
In Dreams and Visions 62:4:8 (July 22, 1997), Josette Brutus said: "We have the book Dreams and Visions on the Internet in English, French, and other languages, besides the message that was published in it.
Jeanine replied to Josette: "I think that it is necessary to remove it. Now it must be removed, because the world has received the message. As I saw in the dream, we must burn the machines; we must also be removed from the Internet. We must remove it. For only God knows whether the world received it or did not receive it. And God said that the earth is lightened with the three angels' messages. And Jesus said, before removing all that we have at our homes in the publishing houses, Brother Roy Lemke had to give a message to the whole world."
D&V 62:4:10-13 says: "Then when the 70 days are passed, it must be removed. It must be removed. I am going to tell you why. Because, when the persecution is going to arrive, all the well-springs are going to rise upon those who keep the Sabbath. And one will find you on the Internet. And even if they do not find you when it is removed from the Internet, they will know it. You know how? Because we will not be able to buy or sell. . . We will no longer have houses. . . the children of God were chased. I was chased out of my home. . . Satan is going to enforce a law. After the law, the mark. You will not be able to produce, neither on the Internet, nor on anything else. They will find us anyway, without the Internet or with the Internet, they will find us. But so as not to provoke persecution now, why did Jesus say to stop everything now? Because we have to prepare ourselves. It is not that we do not have the desire to give, because Jesus himself said, "Give, give, give! Give to those who are in need, give to those who are poor. Help those who are suffering." But Jesus gives us a message in our work. Before removing the machines, Brother Roy Lemke has a last message to give to the world. After, Jesus said, "Hurry to remove the machines, all that, because the Sunday law will be there, and satan will pursue us with the beast."
D&V 62:6:19-20 says: "Exactly, Jesus gave us a preparation time. It is no longer a time to give messages. It is finished. It is necessary that Brother Roy Lemke and you -- you understand the message -- that the publishing houses no longer have to produce. Whether it be for the world, or Internet, or for the world through prospectuses, we no longer have to give whatsoever. You know, it is not the works that save; it is faith. We are saved by grace and not by the works, but the works also are a part of the faith. But if we go beyond (out-march) God, and that we continue anyway, we lack faith. You understand? If we do without Jesus when Jesus said not to do, we lack faith; we do not have confidence in Jesus. You understand? If he said not to do it anymore, one must no longer do it."
We have many many counsels regarding what to do regarding the Internet in Dreams and Visions, not just D&V 62, in 1997. At different times, we have been told to publish a message to the Jews on the Internet (we did that); we have been told to publish a message to the world on the Internet (we did that); we have been told to publish a message to the young people on the Internet (we did that). At the present time, who knows? But we are NOT ALLOWED TO PUBLISH Dreams and Visions on the Internet.
Dreams and Visions is about 90% "instruction in righteousness" on how to sanctify ourselves in order to prepare for Jesus' soon return. Dreams and Visions is a "righteousness by faith" "in the word of God" presentation of the third angel's message, warning the "saints" that they must be "born again. . . by the word of God" (1 Peter 1:23), to have the Bible's "instruction in righteousness" (torah) written upon their hearts that they might not sin against him, and to worship Yahweh God "in spirit and in truth," being sanctified by the truth ("thy word is truth").
The judgment of the living has ended for those of the world who would not be willing to be born again by the word of God (God knows his own, because HE made them his own). The people of the world who belong to Jesus, he knows them, and he has been leading them to come to him (without the Philadelphia Church of the Remnant's Dreams and Visions by Jeanine Sautron). They are safe in the arms of Jesus; Jesus will bring them at his appointed time, when the Church of Philadelphia the Remnants is ready. At the present time, most of the Church of Philadelphia is not ready (as Dreams and Visions says), but Jesus is going to unite the outsiders with the Philadelphia Church when 50% of the Philadelphia Church is ready (sanctified by God's grace) as Jesus has prophesied. The other 50% of the Philadelphia Church will abandon the faith at the time of persecution, and will be our worst enemies.
Jesus has INFINITE WISDOM. He has led every step of the way. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PUBLISH DREAMS AND VISIONS ON THE INTERNET! I gave you the Dreams and Visions files so that you could study it for YOURSELF, but if you are full of pride in your own human judgment, and will not OBEY the messages of Jesus regarding not publishing Dreams and Visions on the Internet, let it be known to you that PRIDE is an abominable SIN in the sight of God! RIGHTEOUSNESS is by FAITH in what Jesus has said; RIGHTEOUSNESS is not by FAITH in what we THINK that we can accomplish by DISOBEYING JESUS! Salvation is NOT by WORKS!
Roy Lemke
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:56 AM
Subject: Your Poems... and one you may enjoy
To: Roy Lemke
Dear Brother Lemke,
I was reading a page in D&V and ran across this:
"I like very much the poems of our Brother Roy Lemke. I read them often. I like these spiritual poems" JS.
I would like to read your poems too, if you would like to share them with me?
Here is one you may like:
The Laodicean’s Lament
You can hear it here: https://youtu.be/FkbHabJ9hU4?t=5888
My hope is built on nothing less,
Than my dear Church, and it’s success!
No Matter what my Church may do,
It cannot fall—its going through!
My hope is built on nothing more,
For me its heaven’s open door.
So I rejoice—let others wail;
It’s going through—it cannot fail!
I do not need to watch and wait;
To me it stands as heaven’s gate;
So I’ll support her, come what may—
She’ll see me through on that glad day!
O Could it be—and to my shame—
God’s church and mine are not the same?
God’s church fulfill His sacred plan;
My Church reveals the stamp of man!
My Laodicean Church slept on—that day at last
Did come, and so the harvest passed.
I stuck with her at any cost—
God’s Wilderness church went through,
but left Laodiceans lost!
Here is a link to Joseph Bates 1850 article on Laodicea you may find interesting.
And a very interesting Laodicean quote here:
Laodicean Joseph Bates 1850.png
Here is a song I wrote a week ago...it needs some help to make it a more singable format. Perhaps you can help me with it?
I woke up (2/5/16) Friday morning and saw a beautiful sunrise, the sky all red and pretty. As I lay there, thanking Jesus for the beautiful sunrise and seeing the crystal clear river just outside my windows, the words for the song just popped into my mind all in a second. I grabbed my laptop sitting on my night stand beside my bed to start writing them down... !
"I thank Thee my Father and God for sending the Spirit of Your Son to dwell in me today!"
THE THIRD ANGEL'S MESSAGE SONG - A NEW SONG IN MY HEART
Chorus:
Oh my Father and God! How we praise and thank Thee!
For bringing forth your only begotten firstborn Son in antiquity, from everlasting, just as Micah chapter 5 verse two promised!
Your firstborn Son of Heaven was born again in me!
Of a earthly virgin woman to purge us from all our unrighteousness.
Oh Father! How I praise and thank Thee for sending the holy Spirit of Your Son Jesus to dwell in me today!
Verse 1:
Your Truth, the Spirit of Your Son Jesus, oh Father in Heaven is brought forth in us today! Because you revived and quickened me, with the Your promised Gift of my New Birth! The risen "holy" Spirit, the very risen Life and Soul of Your dear Son, shining forth from me today! How gracious and precious You are dear Father! For reconciling me back to you again through the Spirit of Your Son in me today!
Chorus:
Oh my Father and God! How we praise and thank Thee!
For bringing forth your only begotten firstborn Son in antiquity, from everlasting, just as Micah chapter 5 verse two promised!
Your firstborn Son of Heaven was born again in me!
Of a earthly virgin woman to purge us from all our unrighteousness.
Oh Father! How I praise and thank Thee for sending the holy Spirit of Your Son Jesus to dwell in me today!
Verse 2
What a glorious HOME you are making in me today! I'm happy to be a mansion for You and Your Son everyday! My mind and heart, my desires, ruled through the Spirit of Your Son dwelling in me today! I praise you Lord God of Heaven for quickening my Spirit with the Presence and Power of your only begotten Son today. Praise our great God, all ye people for sending the Spirit of Jesus in me today! Our God's merciful kindness is great toward us! And the truth of the Lord endureth for ever. Praise ye the Lord!
Chorus:
Oh my Father and God! How we praise and thank Thee!
For bringing forth your only begotten firstborn Son in antiquity, from everlasting, just as Micah chapter 5 verse two promised!
Your firstborn Son of Heaven was born again in me!
Of a earthly virgin woman to purge us from all our unrighteousness.
Oh Father! How I praise and thank Thee for sending the holy Spirit of Your Son Jesus to dwell in me today!
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Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
---------- Original message ----------
From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Your Poems... and one you may enjoy
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
It is amazing to me that SDAs are BLIND and cannot see that Laodicea is SPEWED OUT, as it is plainly stated in Revelation 3. Jesus is NEVER wrong!
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:02 AM
Subject: Here is the quote I read to you on the phone about the 144,000 not being 2 groups of 144.000 by James White:
To: Roy Lemke
"Those who die under the third angel's message
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Here is the quote I read to you on the phone about the 144,000 not being 2 groups of 144.000 by James White:
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
are a part of the 144,000; there are not 144,000 in addition to these, but these help make up that number. They are raised to mortal life shortly before Christ comes, and . . . are changed to immortality when Christ appears." James S. White, RH Sept. 23, 1880.
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Yes, the Sabbath SANCTIFIES us.
Obedience to the 4th Commandment Sabbath sanctifies us. It is a SEAL, STAMP, SIGN, SIGNET ring of authority God puts upon the hand of His Bride, the 144,000.
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:17 AM
Subject: kneeling in prayer
To: Roy Lemke:
Dear Brother Lemke,
I would also like more info about what you spoke to me about kneeling when we pray and about how the actual translations have been messed up for kneeling and the Sabbath.
I think you said it was called "barak" and the 4th Commandment was translated "REMEMBER, SABBATH, SANCTIFICATION" ?
And Exodus 31:13?
Obedience to the 4th Commandment Sabbath sanctifies us. It is a SEAL, STAMP, SIGN, SIGNET ring of authority God puts upon the hand of His Bride, the 144,000.
Here is a excellent video about this here:
https://youtu.be/qBarFBPUtM4 (this is the reformed SDA movement, who are trinitarians - but this video is pristine truth as far as I can tell. The only thing I think may be off is that the 144,000 in number is cut off when the judgements of God fall upon the House of God...because
May God bless you!
Cindy Haynes
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: kneeling in prayer
To: weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
To: Test Test <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 7:17 am
Subject: kneeling in prayer
Dear Brother Lemke,
I would also like more info about what you spoke to me about kneeling when we pray and about how the actual translations have been messed up for kneeling and the Sabbath.
I think you said it was called "barak" and . . .
In Psalm 95:6, it says: "Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us KNEEL (Strong's H1288: barak: meaning to kneel in reverent love and adoration to be blessed by Yahweh) before YAHWEH our maker."
In Genesis 2:3, it says: "God barak (knelt) 7th day sanctification because Shabath (Strong's H7673, meaning "kept Sabbath") work God created to make."
So a literal translation could say: "God knelt the 7th day for sanctification because he kept Sabbath service God created to do."
In Genesis 2:2, it says: "7th day God ceased work to do, KEPT SABBATH (Shabath: Strong's H7673, meaning "kept Sabbath") 7th day service to do."
The Hebrew word Shabath is used 71 times in the Bible Hebrew, but only once translated into "keep Sabbath." All the other Shabath is translated into something else. Thus the keeping of the Shabbath is covered up in the creation story, and 68 places elsewhere in the Bible.
By covering up the meaning of barak (to kneel in reverent love and adoration to be blessed by Yahweh) we see the so-called Christians, Jews, and SDAs standing like the Pharisee, who "stood and prayed thus with himself..." Luke 18:11.
Repeatedly we see Jesus, our exemplar, kneeling for worship, and he said, "My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves."
I believe that a literal translation of these Hebrew words significantly alters how to keep the Sabbath by kneeling for prayer in our worship services on Sabbath, and it does show how the prejudices of translators against the Sabbath and against kneeling have significantly covered up PROPER WORSHIP (and "worship" also has as one of its meanings to KNEEL) and thus covered up PROPER SABBATH-KEEPING.
the 4th Commandment was translated "REMEMBER, SABBATH, SANCTIFICATION" ? And Exodus 31:13.
REMEMBER (Strong's H2142) comes from the Hebrew word "zakar," and it means to MARK FOR RECOGNITION.
SABBATH (Strong's H7676) comes from the Hebrew word "shabbath."
DAY (Strong's H3117) comes from the Hebrew word "yowm" which means DAY.
HOLY (Strong's H6942) comes from the Hebrew word "qadash" which means CONSECRATE, SANCTIFY, PREPARE, DEDICATE, BE HALLOWED, BE HOLY, BE SANCTIFIED, BE SET APART OR SEPARATED FOR GOD'S PURPOSES FOR OUR BENEFIT. "The Sabbath was made FOR man." Mark 2:27-28.
The commandment is translated, "REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY to keep it HOLY." That is 8 words. The Hebrew has 4 words. I have capitalized the 4 Hebrew words.
In a literal translation of the 4 words, then it could say: "REMEMBER SABBATH DAY HOLY," but that would not make much sense to us.
"REMEMBER SABBATH DAY HOLINESS" would make more sense.
In Exodus 31:13, it says: "Verily my Sabbath you shall keep. . . that you may know that I am the lord who does SANCTIFY (Strong's H6942) you." The Hebraic Roots Bible says: "I am Yahweh your SANCTIFIER." Thus we see that the word, "HOLY" is an exact equivalent of "SANCTIFICATION."
So we see that Exodus 20:8 could be translated literally:
"REMEMBER SABBATH DAY SANCTIFICATION."
Or "Mark for recognition Sabbath Day sanctification."
"What God wants is our sanctification!" "Sanctify them through thy truth; thy word is truth."
I believe Revelation 7 about 144,000 Jews, AND I believe Revelation 14 about the "144,000 (those who die under the third angel's message). It is NOT a point of significance to me; most of the Remnant Church believe that there is only one 144,000 group. I have studied it for myself (not relying upon anyone else, but believing EVERY WORD that the Bible says to the MAXIMUM, which is my way of studying the Bible as "the voice of God to my soul."), and I do not see how it can be any other way than 144,000 Jews and 144,000 under the third angel's message. It would seem to me that they are different time periods.
I will not give you MY study on the matter, because I believe it is of ABSOLUTELY NO SIGNIFICANCE to you (or any of God's people) whatsoever!
Here is a excellent video about this here:
https://youtu.be/qBarFBPUtM4 (this is the reformed SDA movement, who are trinitarians - but this video is pristine truth as far as I can tell. The only thing I think may be off is that the 144,000 in number is cut off when the judgements of God fall upon the House of God...because
Cindy Haynes
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:28 PM
Subject: The false gospel "Faith of Jesus"
To: royallastgleam@yahoo.com
Attached is a short study of how to recognize the "MISLEADING" statements of Jones and Waggoner that E.G. White talked about Jones and Waggoner making. And it reveals how to recognize those statements of Jones and Waggoner that they could not PROVE from the Bible (that E.G. White talked about).
I hope that this will help you recognize what was left out of Jones and Waggoner's messages in many instances. Jones and Waggoner were preaching to the founders of the SDA church who KNEW all these things, and so every time they talked about "THE FAITH OF JESUS," they did not repeat "the commandments of God," "being born again. . . by the word of God," "sanctification," "the everlasting gospel," and "repentance toward God."
What we must understand when reading Jones and Waggoner is that they were explaining "the faith of Jesus," and that they were NOT explaining "the commandments of God," "being born again. . . by the word of God," "sanctification," "the everlasting gospel," and "repentance toward God."
Jesus kept the "faith of Jesus," and he did no sin. If we abide in him, and he in us, we will do no sin. "He who commits sin is of the devil." "Go and sin no more." "Keep the commandments of God AND the faith of Jesus."
Jones and Waggoner were the two witnesses of 1888; hear what they say (about "the faith of Jesus"), and REMEMBER what they did not say!
E.G. White said that ALL of her writings were "RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH." And I say that ALL of the Bible is "RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH," and ALL of Dreams and Visions by Jeanine Sautron is "RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH."
One final NOTE: If the 1888 Jones and Waggoner 1888 Message Study Committee SDA books were not sufficient to get the 1888 Message Study Committee into the kingdom of heaven, will they be sufficient to get YOU into the kingdom of heaven? Beware of reading SDA (1888 Message Study Committee) books! I HAVE WARNED YOU! Yes, I know that Jones and Waggoner are among the 144,000, and I know that "righteousness by faith" is HALF of the THIRD ANGEL'S MESSAGE in verity. The other HALF is "the commandments of God."
E.G.W. said so in Manuscript Releases, pages 270-277:
The soul-saving message, the third angel's message, is the message to be given to the world.
The commandments of God and the faith of Jesus are both important, immensely important, and must be given with equal force and power.
The first part of the message has been dwelt upon mostly, the last part casually.
The faith of Jesus is not comprehended.
We must talk it,
we must live it,
we must pray it,
and educate the people to bring this part of the message into their home life.
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in christ Jesus." Philippians 2:5.
There have been entire discourses, dry and christless, in which Jesus has scarcely been named. The speaker's heart is not subdued and melted by the love of Jesus. He dwells upon dry theories. No great impression is made. The speaker has not the divine unction, and how can he move the hearts of the people? We need to repent and be converted--yes, the preacher converted.
The people must have Jesus lifted up before them, and
they must be entreated to "Look and live."
Why are our lips so silent upon the subject of christ's righteousness
and his love for the world?
May the words of Jesus dwell in your heart and mind richly!
Roy Lemke
royallastgleam@aol.com
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:34 PM
Subject: What EGW says about EJ Waggoner's writings.
To: royallastgleam@yahoo.com
Dr. Waggoner has spoken to us in a straightforward manner. There is precious light in what he has said. Some things presented in reference to the law in Galatians, if I fully understand his position, do not harmonize with the understanding I have had of this subject; but truth will lose nothing by investigation, therefore I plead for Christ's sake that you come to the living Oracles, and with prayer and humiliation seek God. Everyone should feel that he has the privilege of searching the Scriptures for himself, and he should do this with earnest prayer that God will give him a right understanding of His word, that he may know from positive evidence that he does know what is truth. {1888 163.2}
I would have humility of mind, and be willing to be instructed as a child. The Lord has been pleased to give me great light, yet I know that He leads other minds, and opens to them the mysteries of His Word, and I want to receive every ray of light that God shall send me, though it should come through the humblest of His servants. {1888 163.3}
Some interpretations of Scripture given by Dr. Waggoner I do not regard as correct. But I believe him to be perfectly honest in his views, and I would respect his feelings and treat him as a Christian gentleman. I have no reason to think that he is not as much esteemed of God as are any of my brethren, and I shall regard him as a Christian brother, so long as there is no evidence that he is unworthy. The fact that he honestly holds some views of Scripture differing from yours or mine is no reason why we should treat him as an offender, or as a dangerous man, and make him the subject of unjust criticism. We should not raise a voice of censure against him or his teachings unless we can present weighty reasons for so doing and show him that he is in error. No one should feel at liberty to give loose rein to the combative spirit. {1888 164.1}
There are some who desire to have a decision made at once as to what is the correct view on the point under discussion. As this would please Elder B., it is advised that this question be settled at once. But are minds prepared for such a decision? I could not sanction this course, because our brethren are exercised by a spirit which moves their feelings, and stirs their impulses, so as to control their judgment. While under so much excitement as now exists, they are not prepared to make safe decisions. {1888 164.2}
I know it would be dangerous to denounce Dr. Waggoner's position as wholly erroneous. This would please the enemy. I see the beauty of truth in the presentation of the righteousness of Christ in relation to the law as the doctor has placed it before us. (The above sentence is what I want to know!) You say, many of you, it is light and truth. Yet you have not presented it in this light heretofore. Is it not possible that through earnest, prayerful searching of the Scriptures he has seen still greater light on some points? That which has been presented harmonizes perfectly with the light which God has been pleased to give me during all the years of my experience. If our ministering brethren would accept the doctrine which has been presented so clearly--the righteousness of Christ in connection with the law--and I know they need to accept this, their prejudices would not have a controlling power, and the people would be fed with their portion of meat in due season. Let us take our Bibles, and with humble prayer and a teachable spirit, come to the great Teacher of the world; let us pray as did David, "Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law." (Psalms 119:18). {1888 164.3}
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: What EGW says about EJ Waggoner's writings.
To: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Dear Brother Lemke,
The Righteousness of Christ is the Third Angel's Message. I see it as the voice of the Bride and Bridegroom to the 10 virgins who were LINGERING NEAR the house of the Bride, calling them to wake up, to JOIN the wedding party procession going into Christ, the banquet of truth = the Third Angel's message (vegan diet, dress reform, special emphasis on the Sabbath, to come out of all Babylonian ways and follow the only Way, the Truth and the Life, to stop worshiping false gods like the trinity of gods etc). This wedding party is GLAD with music (praise and thanksgiving on their lips for the 3 angel's messages!)
Meekness is quiet cheerful obedience to the law (Jesus). Like Jesus, of ourselves we can do NOTHING. The law is truth. Jesus is the truth. The truth is the law. Jesus is the law, written to our hearts, our desires, MAKING US Holy, perfect like Himself.
We must daily invoke the Spirit of Christ into our dusty Spirit house and feed and nourish our starving skinny souls by claiming the exceedingly great and precious Bible promises.
"When we learn the POWER of His Word (Jesus = the Righteousness of God is the law of God in us written to our hearts desires by the Spirit of Jesus dwelling inside our Spirit tabernacle/temple/tent, the Shekinah glory, the cloudy pillar by day, the pillar of fire by night = we are the Ark of the Covenant = the Ark is "found" when the Spirit of Christ/the law of God dwells inside our body), we shall NOT follow the suggestions of Satan in order to obtain food or to save our lives. Our only questions will be, What is God's command? and what is His promise? Knowing these, we shall obey the one, and trust the other"! DA121.
The Righteousness (truth) of Christ thanksgiving and praise for God and His Son for helping us to endure and overcome our trials and problems is to be continually upon our lips. This is the Robe of Righteousness, the thanksgiving and praise to God for giving us His own dear and precious Son forever.
We are to be IN this ONE body of Christ and Christ is to be IN us by His Spirit. His Divine Spirit is blended with our human Spirit/character/thoughts and feelings. We become God like in Character. Like gods. Holy. Perfected in Christ's body. For it is written "there be gods many" 1 Cor 8:5. But to US, there IS but ONE God, the Father. AND ONE Lord, Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 8:6.
I see God as only saving one man, the man Christ Jesus. Our only hope is to get into that man. Kind of like a spaceship suit. We breath and have our being through Him. He is our umbilical cord, our lifeline to the living Father of Heaven. Christ is the golden scepter God holds out to us to touch - so that as Queen Esther lived in the sight of the King, we too can live in the sight of the King of Kings, our only God and Father.
Queen Vashti represents 501c3 Adventists, Laodiceans who refuse to live out and show the beauty of the great truths in their daily choices. Like Queen Vashti refused to come before the King and show off her beauty at his command, So 501c3 Adventists refuse to show off their beauty that was GIVEN to them (Three Angel's Messages) at the command of the King. Queen Esther represents the 144,000, the Philadelphian church of brotherly love.
"All who are truly converted unto the proclamation of the third angel's message must not present to the world, to angels, and to men, division in the place of unity. The truth of God sanctifies the receiver to be a channel and representative of His grace to the world, and to angels, and to men"—Manuscript 130, 1901, 1, 10. (Untitled, November 27, 1901; Manuscript Releases, vol. 4 [Nos. 210-259], p. 297.1 (Ellen G. White).
"A knowledge of God is the foundation of all true education and of all true service" The Ministry of Healing, p. 409.2; Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8, pages 292, 293.
Getting to know someone is the foundation of trust. How well have we gotten to know God? "Our work is to restore the moral image of God in man through the abundant grace given us of God by Jesus Christ." – {TMK 45.3}
"Now as never before we need to understand the true science of education. If we fail to understand this we shall never have a place in the Kingdom of God" Home and Church School Manual, p. 6.2, Mrs. E. G. White. CLICK here to download a great study about this here.
"The science of true education is the truth. The third angel's message is truth" T. Vol. 6, p. 131.
The THIRD ANGEL'S MESSAGE IS THE GOSPEL of Christ! THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN US IS THE LAW OF GOD WRITTEN TO OUR DESIRES, THE FLESHY TABLES OF OUR HEARTS/DESIRES!
"The health reform is as closely related to the third angel’s message as the arm to the body, but the arm cannot take the place of the body. The proclamation of the third angel’s message, the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus, is the burden of our work. The message is to be proclaimed with a loud cry, and is to go to the whole world. The presentation of health principles must be united with this message, but must not be independent of it, or in any way take the place of it" Lt57-1896 (May 27, 1896) par. 1.
"Those who stand before the people as teachers of truth are to grapple with great themes. They are not to occupy precious time in talking of trivial subjects. Let them study the Word, and preach the Word. Let the Word be in their hands as a sharp, two-edged sword. Let it testify to past truths and show what is to be in the future are to shape our lives and that by us are to be proclaimed to the world. We are to keep abreast of the times, bearing a clear, intelligent testimony, guided by the unction of the Holy Spirit.—Manuscript 31, 1906. pp. 5, 6. (“Be Vigilant,” April 2, 1906.)
"Then all the virgins (all 10! even the 5 foolish! but only 5 had the Spirit of Jesus in them (the oil of the Holy Spirit of Jesus, the law written to their desires) because they were not worshiping the false trinity of gods!) woke up and trimmed their lamps.
"The free company, who appeared to be in an open field raised above the earth." Early Writings, p. 243.1, Spiritual Gifts. Volume 1, p. 146.2
"Those (144,000) who have had moral courage enough to stand out free from the Laodicean church, and keep the commandments of God, have been so unrighteously denounced as heretics and fanatics, that many honest souls are afraid of the true servants of the Lord, who are proclaiming the THIRD ANGEL'S MESSAGE" The Advent Review No. 1-5, 1850.
"I see the beauty of truth in the presentation of the righteousness of Christ in relation to the law as the doctor has placed it before us. ("The above sentence is what I want to know!" Roy Lemke) You say, many of you, it is light and truth. Yet you have not presented it in this light heretofore. Is it not possible that through earnest, prayerful searching of the Scriptures he has seen still greater light on some points? That which has been presented harmonizes perfectly with the light which God has been pleased to give me during all the years of my experience (The Spirit of Christ in us - cultivating our desires (heart/wants) to be like His own Character = When unconsciously we are in danger of exerting a wrong influence, the angels will be by our side, prompting us to a better course, choosing our words for us, and influencing our actions. Thus our influence may be a silent, unconscious, but mighty power in drawing others to Christ and the heavenly world"—Christ’s Object Lessons, 340-342.
). If our ministering brethren would accept the doctrine which has been presented so clearly--the righteousness of Christ in connection with the law--and I know they need to accept this, their prejudices would not have a controlling power, and the people would be fed with their portion of meat in due season. Let us take our Bibles, and with humble prayer and a teachable spirit, come to the great Teacher of the world; let us pray as did David, "Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law." (Psalms 119:18). {1888 164.3}
May God help us all to see Him clearly through the eyes of our husband Jesus Christ.
Cindy
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com> wrote:
Roy Lemke
Nice! Thanks!
Roy Lemke
Holiness (sanctification) to Yahweh (the mind must belong to Yahweh), the eternal creator of all created beings!
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua!
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From: Cindy Haynes <weddingpartyprocession@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: What EGW says about EJ Waggoner's writings.
To: Roy Lemke <royallastgleam@aol.com>
Dear Brother Lemke,
I was wondering if Jeanine Sautron had any messages denouncing the false trinity of gods?
Also, do you have a every word index to her writings? (in pdf format perhaps?)
Lot's of reading I have to do! :)
nite!
Cindy
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