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White and Poppe

Alfred White first met Peter Poppe in August 1897 when visiting a small arms factory in Austria. They became friends, and White suggested to Poppe that he moved to Coventry to set up an engine business. Supported financially by White’s family, the resulting Company was registered in 1899. White’s family owned 337 shares in the company, Alfred White, 250, and Peter Poppe, 1 share. The company initially worked on the design of a single cylinder engine but this was interrupted by manufacture of munitions for the Boer war (1899-1902). The first engine produced was for a motor bike in 1903 (80mm bore 85mm stroke, air cooled).

Example of 80x85 W&P Engine (ca. 1904)

In 1905 they introduced 80mm bore 90 mm stroke engine in 2, 3, 4 cylinder versions (7-14 hp).

Example of 80x90 two cylinder water cooled engine (ca. 1906)

Example of 130mm stroke engine (ca. 1908)

Example of 120x130mm four cylinder engine (1911)

In 1900, White and Poppe filed various patents for machine tools they had designed for their production line. They pioneered interchangeability of parts in automotive engines from their experience in the munitions industry. Their advanced carburettors mechanically controlled the proportion of fuel to air to achieve a consistent proportion throughout the operating range. When the first German airship was shot down (Schutte-Lanz SL11) on 3rd September 1916 it was fitted with a White and Poppe carburettor.

White and Poppe were a proprietary engine manufacturer and became a preferred supplier to Dennis Bros in 1906 at which point White and Poppe were supplying 22 different motor manufacturers.

On 5th November 1919, in the post World War I recession, Dennis Bros purchased White and Poppe (by exchange of shares to the value of £204,365.00), White and Poppe having produced nearly 12000 engines in total, including ca. 5000 for Dennis Bros.

Alfred White was offered a knighthood after World War I but turned it down because Peter Poppe was not eligible, being a foreign national.

Users

Vehicles using White and Poppe Engines

Academy

Arno

Burgess

CCC

Chalmers

Clyde

Critchley-Norris

Dixpi

Heron

Horley

Morris

Petromobile

Pullcar

Siddeley-Deasy

Tarrant

Withers

Achilles

Baguley

Calthorpe

Caltic

Clement

Cole-Wiedman

Deasy

Fairfax

High Tension

Lotis

MP

Pilot

Quadrant

Singer

Thrige

Ariel

Bridgwater

Canterbury

Century

Climax

Cotton

Dennis

Globe

Horbick

Mobile

Nameless

Premier

Rothwell

Swift

West

Numbers

White and Poppe engine production prior to Dennis takeover

Sorry, Google sites has messed up the layout by dropping tables.

Bore

(mm)


63.5

80

80

85

100

80

80

60

65

69

69.5

80

80

80

80

80

85

85

90

90

100

100

100

110

110

115

120

127

127

127

80

127

127

140

Stroke

(mm)

76

85

90

85

110

90

90

90

90

100

102

90

120

130

142

149

90

110

110

130

110

130

150

130

150

150

130

130

150

180

90

130

150

150

Cylinders

1

1

1

1

1

2

3

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

4

6

6

6

6

v8

Capacity

(cc)


241

427

452

482

864

905

1357

1018

1195

1496

1548

1810

2413

2614

2855

2996

2043

2497

2799

3308

3456

4084

4712

4942

5702

6232

5881

6587

7601

9121

2714

9881

11401

13854

BHP

(normal rpm)

3

3.5

8

9

13.5

16.4

18

18

24

24.5

24.5

32

32

40

44

50

59

74

27

85.5

110

150

Comments


Air cooled

Mototcycles

Light car, marine and stationary.

Mototcycles

Marine and stationary

Clyde, Horley, Horbick, Singer, Swift

Exclusively for Morris Oxford

Proposed for 4 seat Morris Oxford

Experimental Morris Oxford

Academy, Calthorpe, Climax, Clyde, Globe, Horley, Horbick, Rothwell, Singer, Swift & West

Proposed W&P car

Siddeley-Deasy, Singer, biplane and airships

For 1912 Singer

Dennis

Dennis, Singer & Withers

Dennis and Singer

Singer

Singer and Dennis

Dennis & Withers

Subsidy Dennis (1913-1916)

Subsidy Dennis (1915 on)

Dennis & Withers

Dennis

Dennis

Calthorpe, Climax, Heron, Horbick & West

Dennis

Dennis and Railway Locomotives

Delta Airship

Aero Engine

Production

1907-1919

4

35

525

3

50

26

1530

0

188

0

643

1

2

152

468

649

38

160

4

442

493

4591

209

190

843

233

7

12

50

11

unknown


If you have further information, early W&P engines, spare or drawings please email benjamin.p.hawkins@gmail.com