Believers, at the moment of salvation, are "crucified with Christ," and yet they live (Galatians 2:20). When the earthly body of the believer dies, he or she lives on spiritually. Through faith in Christ, believers have been made alive in the spirit just as Jesus lives in the spirit. We who profess Christ are not destined for soul sleep or the grave!

Another scriptural event that is sometimes misinterpreted is Saul's visit to the medium of Endor. Some believe that Saul summoned the spirit of Samuel, that Samuel's spirit ascended from the ground, and that Samuel was angry because his sleep had been disturbed. However, sleep is not mentioned in the passage. The text only says, "Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?" (1 Samuel 28:15). Further, as Thomas Constable noted, "This passage does not say that the witch brought up Samuel from the dead. God revealed Samuel to Saul."2


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We don't know exactly where Samuel was before he was disturbed, but we do know he told Saul that the king and his sons would be with the prophet the very next day (28:19). This wouldn't be very meaningful if their souls were just going to be sleeping after they died. Rather, it's more likely Samuel meant they would all be conscious of their spirits meeting one another the next day.

Some wonder if we will recognize our loved ones in heaven or if our spirits will be without form like a ghost or a wispy cloud, but these passages suggest we will have a bodily form. The Bible doesn't give us details, but several passages suggest we will have recognizable intermediate bodies.

Fears and questions about death are natural, but the Bible offers peace. Believers can take courage in the knowledge that the rest God provides for us after death is so much better than any so-called "soul sleep." While death is sorrowful and painful, for those who know Christ, the time beyond death carries with it marvelous hope. For Christians, death means we will finally, immediately be face-to-face with our Father.

Tony: People often get very confused by ghosts and spirits. For me, the spirit is somebody who has lived a life, passed before us, and is drawn back to the world often by a reciprocal love pull.

Tony: One of the ways spirit can communicate directly to us is when we're in a more unconscious state (such as a dream state), when we're going to sleep, or when we're waking up. We can absolutely encounter spirit people around us because the unconscious mind is more gentle and less analytical.

People have had dreams where they've been with their dad. They've danced with him and they look him straight in the face and then wake up. Those experiences are far more than dreams; they are real experiences that our spirit has while our physical body is sleeping. I believe they're valid and should be looked forward to.

One of the most probing explorations of this state, and the one that helped free me from the terror, comes from Jorge Conesa-Sevilla, a neurocognitive psychologist and shamanic artist based in Oregon who regularly experiences sleep paralysis himself. In his book Wrestling with Ghosts (2004), he takes a refreshing approach to the subject, couching sleep paralysis in scientific terms, without denying his personal, exploratory approach.

Conesa-Sevilla has developed specific, highly honed techniques to help us move from one blended state to the other. Like many others who regularly experience sleep paralysis, I had naturally slipped into lucid dreams on occasion, but I did not understand what they were, or that I could initiate this switch. Wrestling with Ghosts explained how to do this, but most importantly, it made me understand that sleep paralysis was not a curse; it could be a gift.

To switch from sleep paralysis into lucid dreaming is no mean feat; it is hard to keep a cool head with a ghost sitting on top of you. I can rarely pinpoint the moment that terror becomes lucidity but, when it does, I am launched into the vast landscapes and vivid colours of my lucid dreams.

I often return to the same places, worlds that I have created. There is a city with a complex network of streets, elaborate houses, an underground system, a harbour and swimming pools. The whites, blues, yellows and greens are far more intense than any I have seen in waking life. And there are great natural landscapes: a coastline with high cliffs and forests. I know my way around. I could draw a map of these worlds. I can choose where to go and I can walk or fly. I populate these landscapes with people; be they familiar or fantastical, living or departed, I talk to them. I am fully conscious during these dreams.

In this brief description you can see where I received the title to this page, "Departed Spirit Sleep". Her spirit "returned" to her body because it had departed from her body at the death of her body.

Yes and no. Evidently, there are versions of soul sleep which incorrectly teach that the soul cannot exist apart from the body or that the souls of the unbelieving are annihilated, rather than existing indefinitely in Hell. You can read many arguments against those versions of soul sleep on the internet. But, a scriptural description of soul sleep doesn't speak to those issues at all.

In this page, the terms soul sleep and departed spirit sleep will be used interchangeably. But, if you can't help but link the term "soul sleep" with the two incorrect doctrines I mentioned in the previous paragraph, then you should think in terms of "departed spirit sleep" whenever I use the term "soul sleep". Then you can prayerfully and objectively hear what the scriptures actually say, instead of what you have heard men say. In this page we will see what the scriptures say about existence after death, not what men say about existence after death.

When Jesus said "She isn't dead, but sleeping", He was speaking of her spirit. He was saying that her spirit was not dead, but "sleeping". So, her body was dead but her spirit was not. For the complete text and additional commentary on this girl's death, go to the bottom of this page. Read the paragraph titled, "Death of Jairus' Daughter".

Our Lord's chosen metaphor, sleep, is no different. He was not saying that we look like we are sleeping when we die. What would be the spiritual point of that? There is none. The sleep metaphor communicates rest, minimal activity and continuance of life after the death of the body. The sleep metaphor does not apply to a corpse. A corpse decays. Readers of scripture knew this (Acts 13:36). But the sleep metaphor does apply to the spiritual state of a deceased believer... rest, minimal activity and life in God's presence. Sleep may also be a metaphor indicating the spiritual state of a deceased unbeliever... unconsciousness or semi-consciousness, minimal activity and a state of torment, without access to the pleasures of earthly idolatry.

His phrase, "While I am in the world", in verse five is connecting verse four to His coming death. So, we should view "day" and "night" in verse four as metaphors for life and death. According to the doctrine of Departed Spirit Sleep, we sleep after death. Figuratively, we sleep at night, after the literal death of our body. Remember, in the above verse Jesus said, "Night is coming, when no one can work". According to the doctrine of Departed Spirit Sleep, one can accept the plain meaning of His words. After death, we enter a state which was routinely and metaphorically called "sleep" in scripture, a time of inactivity in God's presence, "WHEN NO ONE CAN WORK" (John 9:5 above).

Jesus appeared to be saying that we should follow His example, doing God's work while alive, because after we enter into the sleep of death, we will enter into a period of inactivity "when no one can work". Old Testament passages presented the same truths. See below:

Did he see saints who have died and gone to the presence of God? No. He saw the Father on the throne, four creatures, seven spirits, twenty-four elders, Jesus as the Lamb and a myriad of angels around the throne... but no human worshipers. By the word "saint" I mean the scriptural definition of saint, which is God's children, whether an Old Testament believer or a New Testament believer. A saint according to scripture does not indicate an elite Christian or elite Old Testament believer. A saint is a believer who has eternal life.

In Revelation 7:9-17, John saw a vision of active but deceased human worshippers who appear before the throne of God (7:9) after the end of the great tribulation (7:13-14). These are praising God, so we know that they are active in God's presence (7:9-11) rather than resting in a spiritual sleep.

In this section, I presented proof of soul sleep, from the book of Revelation. In the section at the bottom of this page titled, "Soul Sleep: The Key to the Book of Revelation", I spend a little more time on that book. In that section you will see how the doctrine of soul sleep may be the critical key to understanding much of that mysterious book.

A theological argument against soul sleep based on Abraham's after death conversation is doctrinal insanity. It forms a doctrine from the experience of individuals, rather than from the doctrinal statements of God. So, the Abrahamic arguments against soul sleep, arguing that all believers are fully and continually conscious after death, are doctrinal insanity and reckless with God's word. 

As I said, there was an after death conversation between the "certain rich man" and Abraham. But does an after death conversation between Abraham and a "certain rich man" prove that all deceased believers are currently in a fully conscious state after death? Not necessarily. The "certain rich man" was not in Heaven. So, he certainly can't be used as evidence of our existence in Heaven. And, in Luke 8:52, with the death of Jairus' daughter as I have explained, Jesus had already stated that the spirit sleeps when the body dies. People do experience torment during sleep. This could explain the torment which the rich man experienced after death, in a state of sleep. People also talk in their sleep. This could explain the conversation between the rich man and Abraham. Scripture states that God does communicate to people in their sleep. So, God could have allowed Abraham to communicate to the "certain rich man" during the rich man's sleep of torment. God did allow Samuel the prophet to talk to Saul after Samuel's death in 1 Samuel 28:1-23. In fact, Samuel's first statement to Saul after the witch at Endor brought Samuel up was "Why have you disturbed me, to bring me up?" (1 Samuel 28:7, 15). Samuel's statement is very consistent with Samuel's being asleep. Samuel said "Why have you disturbed me, to bring me up?". 2351a5e196

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