Lost/Broken Zillennial Dreams 2010
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Lost/Stolen Future[1] [2]
Other name: (Promised Neverland) Tech-zine future (inspired by July '97 edition of WIRED; kyberia.sk "Future need us" write-up; [picture] [link to read]) (pictured)
Main interest - Retro-Futurism[3], Cyberparadism;[4] Anemoia (longing[5] for (future that never was[3])[6] what you didnt experience personally)
Related/Similar to the genres/aesthetics of[7][6]
Wonderland, Cyberparadism, Global Village Coffeehouse and Hauntology[8][9] - among others -
mildly/loosely speaking, Sweet_nostalgia and Childhood_webcore - Frutiger eco at some point
2010s_Internet nostalgia and alt movements of the time, Old Web
Simulacra et al.
(main sign of this aesthetic - disdain for "authority that is no longer needed" etc.)
Example - this aesthetics visualized (<---, --->)
Barely speaking of "before corn syrup - after con syrup" - post-, meta-modernism;
accepting in-past-unacceptable terms and conditions
meanings that shift and change; and policies that go in play to corporations and big fish (simply, nostalgia for netpunks, (1) (2) wares etc., past "promises"... | tired of bs, lies ...)
In another thread, [USER=7018]@Jodo_Fan[/USER] mentioned about the user's nostalgic desire for old technology and the way things were, mixed with [USER=5424]@Some_porcupine[/USER]'s word salad about lost futures, and it got me thinking.
Today I ordered a camera that saves to floppy disks for my trip to Japan, and I turned my eye inwards to answer a question I'm frequently asked by my relatives: Just why am I so interested in this old, useless junk?
As this is the start of the thread, I'll keep it brief.
It isn't about longing for a past that has gone. It's about making the present we desire, and right now I desire a soft edged digital photo where my ammunition is limited. Battery power can waste away, the disks have limited space. When I pick up a camera I want to take photographs and won't accidentally end up on Discord or in a Wikipedia rabbit hole.
I have gone back on the branch of technology to a place where technology was palpable and owned by the user, and I am progressing on that new branch, exploring things that could have been.
The future needn't be so alternative or lost.
This aesthetics talks about idea of "what could have been", "what we lost", even incorporating in talks those terms of
"look what they took away from you".
Speaking of general "vibe", we are in-between on terms of: Dark Academia, sometimes Bastardcore - Mallgoth. Also might vary between Utopian scholastic, and/or cassette futurism (and others).
pipe dream of history channel, PBS, NPR, * discovery ch., TLC.... and hhow they fell off... the free education from internet, no control, no school, basically start of trekkie future... and it is gone, abused as everything nice into service. cant have shit. it started with how internet pulled off by dotcom bubble, and continues into how all good things get burried. you call it enshittification now
internet ruined whole generation of early (2000s) gen z[10]
(*) not those, but they work(ed) in the same vein
Contemporary feeling - "X was Y years ago" - (agora road)
Playstation 3 was released 2007, this was 16 years ago.There are technically adult people in the West who have never interacted with a Playstation 2.(below)
Some things never change.
Even when "it is 2015 forever"...
"now and then"
>2020 was 10 years ago
(joke post, agora, May 4, 2023)
The Gamecube is older now than the NES was when Gamecube came out.
still in bewilderment that the 3DS is over a decade old now.
Nirvana's Nevermind (1991) is chronologically closer to the Beatles first album (Please Please Me, 1963) than it is to the present.
The origin of vaporwave itself, as defined by the release of "nobody here" was 13 years ago.
(same date)
The iPod was released in 2001, nowadays it's a foreign concept to have a dedicated media player not be a part of another device. There used to be portable DVD players that only had the job of playing DVD's, nothing else. Used to have one for long car rides.
2018 being 5 years ago hurts my head. 2013 was 10 years ago. Time is moving too fast.
When the Angry Video Game Nerd webseries started in 2004, it was only 19 years ago the NES had it's US release (1985.) Now in 2023, it's been 19 years since the first episode of that series was made.
Yesterday was one day ago. "Remember X celebrity? This is him now!" You all sound like a bunch of seniors. At least wait until you have grey hair. Until then, quit pretending you already have one foot in the grave.
I know this near 60 year old short Roma Gypsy fellow with more vitality than most zoomers I know. He goes jogging every day, a bundle of energy and a joy to be around, seemingly untouched by all the bullshit everyone is caught up in. Grew up in terrible conditions, I'd say he's counteracting all of the bad things done to him when he was young by now doing good to others. I want to be like that when I'm old.
SolidStateSurvivor said:
When the Angry Video Game Nerd webseries started in 2004, it was only 19 years ago the NES had it's US release (1985.) Now in 2023, it's been 19 years since the first episode of that series was made.
Now how much has changed between 1985 and 2004 versus 2004 and today? Not just in video games. Although still worth mentioning: Could have anyone at the time of the realease of Super Mario Bros on NES predicted Half Life 2? I don't think so. But someone in 2004 Half Life Alyx? Yes, the change was still big, massive improvements in graphics, physics etc. but compared to the jump between 8-bit 2d sprites and the Source engine, it is nothing. It is better, but nothing has really changed.
Or look at cars: They still follow that big grill, angry, constipated-face design philosophy they already had back in the early 2000s, after having departed from the more understated rounded designs of the 90s. But all these are totally different from the rectangular, polygonal designs of the 80s. More changed between the 80s and 90s than between the 2000s and today. You used to have all these mad prototypes looking like sci-fi back in the 70s/80s while still trying to work around the limits of the combustion engine. Now you really have sci-fi cars and we stick fake grills on them.
The entire post-war 20th century was leading up to "the future", the coming year 2000. But since 9/11 things seem to have got stuck at least when it comes to cultural development unrelated to digital. Anything new (like, say Vaporwave) revisits something from the past.
There was an excellent interview article with Mark Fisher on this idea from about 2010, as it particularly relates to the UK club scene and dance music history. (I'm ashamed I can't find it though, if anyone has it, please post a link.)
Ever since reading it the idea has stuck with me and has proven universally applicable. No one seems to be making the X "of the future" anymore. Smartphones are still Smartphones. While commuting, I have noticed all the new trains don't really look any different. Architecture and Interior Design has gone back to the same old modernist Bauhaus shit. Have we all stopped trying? And just opted to instead get involved with vapid political bullshit? Can't we think of anything new for once? Can I think of anything new? Not really. Was there just so much change since WW1 that we have simply run out of steam? Maybe.
(GhostInTheMachine, agora, May 10, 2023)
No one seems to be making the X "of the future" anymore.
This is pretty much a direct result of aging demographics. The average age of a person living in the western world today is substantially higher than it was 20 years ago or more, because people live longer AND have fewer kids than at any other point in history. This means that society is generally tailored more towards people who are less concerned about what the world will look like 40 years from now, instead caring more about what it'll look like in the next 5 years. The only way for this trend to reverse is for birth rates to rise, and even then it would require that next baby-boom generation to come to maturity before they could enact any sort of forward looking ideology. So basically it either won't happen in our lifetimes, or we'll be so old that it essentially won't matter to us anyways. (- Orlando Smooth)
(NSoph) May 10, 2023
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GhostInTheMachine said:
Yesterday was one day ago. "Remember X celebrity? This is him now!" You all sound like a bunch of seniors. At least wait until you have grey hair. Until then, quit pretending you already have one foot in the grave. I know this near 60 year old short Roma Gypsy fellow with more vitality than most zoomers I know. He goes jogging every day, a bundle of energy and a joy to be around, seemingly untouched by all the bullshit everyone is caught up in. Grew up in terrible conditions, I'd say he's counteracting all of the bad things done to him when he was young by now doing good to others. I want to be like that when I'm old.
Now how much has changed between 1985 and 2004 versus 2004 and today? Not just in video games. Although still worth mentioning: Could have anyone at the time of the realease of Super Mario Bros on NES predicted Half Life 2? I don't think so. But someone in 2004 Half Life Alyx? Yes, the change was still big, massive improvements in graphics, physics etc. but compared to the jump between 8-bit 2d sprites and the Source engine, it is nothing. It is better, but nothing has really changed. Or look at cars: They still follow that big grill, angry, constipated-face design philosophy they already had back in the early 2000s, after having departed from the more understated rounded designs of the 90s. But all these are totally different from the rectangular, polygonal designs of the 80s. More changed between the 80s and 90s than between the 2000s and today. You used to have all these mad prototypes looking like sci-fi back in the 70s/80s while still trying to work around the limits of the combustion engine. Now you really have sci-fi cars and we stick fake grills on them.
The entire post-war 20th century was leading up to "the future", the coming year 2000. But since 9/11 things seem to have got stuck at least when it comes to cultural development unrelated to digital. Anything new (like, say Vaporwave) revisits something from the past.
There was an excellent interview article with Mark Fisher on this idea from about 2010, as it particularly relates to the UK club scene and dance music history. (I'm ashamed I can't find it though, if anyone has it, please post a link.)
Ever since reading it the idea has stuck with me and has proven universally applicable. No one seems to be making the X "of the future" anymore. Smartphones are still Smartphones. While commuting, I have noticed all the new trains don't really look any different. Architecture and Interior Design has gone back to the same old modernist Bauhaus shit. Have we all stopped trying? And just opted to instead get involved with vapid political bullshit? Can't we think of anything new for once? Can I think of anything new? Not really. Was there just so much change since WW1 that we have simply run out of steam? Maybe.
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Mark Fisher probably referenced "hauntology" right? That the spirits of the past haunt us forever, remakes and sequels and
remixes, it never dies, it just gets more deformed. Culture is undead. We are in the eternal 2000`s. the decade and century of the silicon valley techbro. T-shirt and jeans are the forever fashion, rap, post-grunge, everything is "indie" but sounds the same, there is no real edge, musicians """shock""" the world with hypersexuality, but not really. I have not heard Shygirl, Coucou Chloe, Zheani, Cobrah etc, all extremely lukewarm.
Song related is peak hauntology to me.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wdVF88NHA
The weeknd and ellie goulding can also shove it up their ass for polluting search results (even though they did not copy the sound)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpq35wyDi7I
when you miss 80s: (n/a)
when you miss vaporwave, saint pepsi and macplus420, posted on YT 8 years ago: -pain-
2000s/2001 being 20 years ago is weird, because 1980s were 20 years ago too
This was in 2007 so 18 years ago
It took me 17 years to understand it from when I first saw it as a kid
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsj0mY13t9s
"This is 13 years old. I don't think Danny would have guessed that he would be working for Disney today " (Eccojams video)
The original Nintendo DS will soon be 20 years old. I never owned it, but this knowledge make me feels like a fossil.
My current computer will soon be a decade old.
I Opened up an old box couple days ago, found an old mp3 player I had as a kid, this was the only file on it.
I don't know how many years ago was that but it makes me feel like a dinosaur of an era long gone. (-boxerdog)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa0arS6afRw&themeRefresh=1
Badger Badger Badger is 20 years old
They made a cute anniversary video but holy shit how is this meme old enough to vote
2013 was 10 years ago.
I'm now more sad at work than usual, because they play all the songs from 2013 in the radio + shitty remixes of old music.
Listening to the radio in my twenties is feeling to me like it did for my parents in their 40's
It brings me back to a time where i felt less pain, which only intensifies the current pain, working a painful
dead end job while being forced to remember a time when there was still hope
> ah yes, the 200X
>> Meta-nostalgia / You are also now aware that 200X is already YZ years ago
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1997 was 33 years ago ;_;
(Sep 16, 2023)
(<) Such is the march of time [pic-rel]. (Sep 16, 2023)
> ah, 200Xs
(Sep 16, 2023)
GhostInTheMachine said:
You all sound like a bunch of seniors. At least wait until you have grey hair.
> I'm in my mid 20s and have gray hair, do i get the senior pass?
> I can't wrap my head around people calling xbox 360 and ps3 retro gaming consoles, sure they're... over 15 years old but they can't be retro yet? Right?
Some others feel like the main issue is not the modern web in general, but capitalism or individual corporations expanding rapidly into the internet, a space which used to be largely community-run, open-source and led by scientific institutions at best[5] and small businesses at worst. Private capital, especially tech monopolies, owning massive social media sites such as Facebook or Twitter are said to extract as much value out of the internet as possible, and the individual user is the resource that is being exploited;
at the expense of privacy, enjoyment, safety, creativity and individuality, neutrality and the ability to socialize with others effectively. Such large internet conglomerates do not have their users' best interests at heart, inject ads, trackers and spy software into our everyday applications, and progressively make sites less usable and fun for the sake of advertiser friendliness and profit.
People who adhere to this strain also tend to support community-run, non-profit, open source and libre projects over privately owned services. They will likely emphasize the revolutionary potential of a DIY internet, portraying this movement as an inherently political, anti-capitalist organization, and will have strong opinions on political and social issues.
They might also stress how an independent, decentralized web cannot be that easily used for censorship, fake news and artificial engagement, making it inherently more democratic. They usually do not understand or support other parts of the web revival idealizing and using corporate services like MSN, ICQ, Myspace, Windows, Discord and others that are more common in the more art and aesthetic focused parts of the internet, as well as privately owned services pandering to a "retro" or "before-Musk" crowd like Bluesky or Neocities.[4]
The Socialites
Yet some others just do not like the way big social media sites and the web at large work: toxic people, debates and discourse are everywhere and in some cases even encouraged by a lot of the modern internet. Technology like the almighty "algorithm", meaning a content recommendation system that decides what shows up on your front page, are said to make socializing on the internet almost impossible without serious harm to your mental health.
[I myself have written at length about the topic.] Instead, they want to use the web in other ways to socialize and express themselves, beyond what mainstream social media allows them to do. They might like simply hanging out on forums and using e-mail to communicate, using web-rings to discover other people and browsing the web organically.
There are also some alt-social media sites and systems such as the Fediverse, Crabber (now defunct), Bluesky or SpaceHey to fill these niches. Sometimes they run fan sites or fanlistings and are really into the aspect of social networking. They have a strong overlap with the "retro" crowd, but more related to usability than that specific aesthetic. Or sometimes both:
plenty of people are disappointed by how little they can express themselves creatively on mainstream social media. For them, web making is a community and a hobby first and foremost, and the social aspect is in its focus.[4]
[This is] a non-exhaustive list of keywords and related concepts:
Abundance, ancient astronauts, angelic, anti-gravity, Aquarian Age*, ark, astronomy, Atlantis, automation, beach, biodiversity, biomimicry, biotech, breakaway civilization, cargo cult, celestial, chemical education, chrome, cloning, colonization, cosmos, creationism, CRISPR, cryogenics, cybernetics, DNA, Eden, Elysian Fields, Elysium, ephemeralization, eternal life, exoplanet, Epicureanism, extraterrestrial, fusion energy futurism, garden, Genesis, genetic engineering, geoengineering, Golden Age, health, heaven, holism, hybrid, in-vitro meat, jungle, libertarianism, life creation, luxury, med-bay, meritocracy, mind upload, minimalism, monolith, nano tech, nanorobotics, nature, overall suits, neotribalism, new age spirituality, oasis, orbit, organic, pantropy, paradise, peace, posthumanism, post-scarcity, preservation, prosperity[3][14][15][16], rainbow, resource-based economy, robotics, science, singularity, space frontier, Spaceship Earth, survival, synthetic biology, technocracy, technology, temple, terraforming, transhumanism, translucent, tropical, utopia, vault, Venus project, Zion(*)Milleniwave (see this self-post)
hauntology: https://youtu.be/KNkvi107i0U
DORFic; and 60s[3] (orange) retro-futurism - brutalism w. combo of lush life... (solarpunk-ish) (MCM-related, Rollerwave)
personal-aesthetics | Milleniwave · Faux_Nostalgia[17]:
idea: question is, if we, in the end , wouldnt end in the same path as those we hate, those rich bitches. tired to improve things, -
btw, i made something similar (to "rollerwave", 70s vaporwave), but it is more on note of meta(post)modernism, snark, parody (crass) and absurdity (laughting thru tears - absurd nihilism) -
main question: "how we allowed corporations to go this far, control world and so many aspects of our lives?"...
(male fascination with destruction | accelerationism, cyberneticpunk) > On CVs and jobs: >>
...Much of the aesthetic is characterized by nostalgia for an idealized[11] past, often seen as "more wholesome" than modern American culture and style...
- From Americana article
Talking of Hauntology - PNL can make us look over for "what went wrong/what could be//get better", this is, speaking figuratively. Human imagination, in these forms, presents to us, "what could have been's" - world envisioned: in 10, 50, 100, 500 years. Many projects and arts envisioned our "future"s, now long-gone (1800s, 1900s, 1950s-1980s ~ y2k).
pro-freedom hackers (free info, knowledge, source-code; warez), cyberpunk ("its all just 0s and 1s, man... what is so special, what need protection, man; chill..."), "long b(l)oom", "promised 80s neverland", (Once upon a time-space - Barrille) futures; human-library-utopic, free world, calm, pre-9/11 dreams (y2k), new ways-opportunities-progress, tech = (as) saviour, "gay space free commie", unity-community-mutual help-understanding, econ. boom, "kids are alright"/no real deal (internet), small media-only, man vs himself/bad habits (spooks?), theories of mind and research (everything is relative > no meaning, or value > nihilism, postmoderna, metamodern); slow steady steps, new school(s) of thought, "kids = (are) future", "we build this city"/people-first, man-gov collab. ~mutual help/or, liberation (from "spooks")... - similar to
vaporware - In the computer industry, vaporware is a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is late or never actually manufactured nor officially cancelled. Use of the word has broadened to include products such as automobiles. Wikipedia
related (*Lain*) example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu
sentiment:
In summary, Western civilization in the 1950s was like a Mentos-filled coke bottle, waiting to pop. Even though families smiled and acted like everything was perfect, underneath the thin layer of prosperity was a cesspool of bigotry, mental health issues, and internalized rage and depression. That's why the 1950s is fascinating for so many people, and the subject of many paranormal or horror films, TV shows, or other works of media-- underneath those smiling faces and happy families were deep wounds that were never healed.
src: 1950s Suburbia
"When Cyberpunk was still a cool dystopian vision and not a depressing dystopian reality"
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y48ZwmVF-2M&list=RDwckZcVFLU24&index=22&pp=8AUBMuch of the aesthetic is characterized by nostalgia for an idealized past, often seen as "more wholesome"[11] than modern (times)...src: Americana
src: Cyberdelic
Cyberpunk narratives often incorporate a sense of hopelessness or
Visually spoken, Cyperparadism is an aesthetic that celebrates the
beauty and power of nature while incorporating technological advancements in a way that promotes sustainability and simplicity. It offers a vision of a utopian society where humans and nature coexist in harmony, and where technology is used to enhance rather than detract from the natural world.Unlike Solarpunk, Cyberparadism doesn't allow itself to live in
symbiosis with nature, but dominates it where it should be dominated and leaves it alone where it isn't necessary anymore. Another aspect very prominent in Solarpunk that is absent in Cyberparadism is the cooperative do-it-yourself spirit very reminiscent of medieval artisanry and craftsmanship that can be seen in many depictions of Solarpunk.The setting of Cyberparadism is less important than the ethos and
values that underlie it. Whether it takes place in a futuristic utopia or a small off-the-grid community, Cyberparadism is characterized by a focus on harmonious relationship with nature, positive use of technology, cooperation, and the enjoyment of life's pleasures. It is a subgenre that celebrates the beauty and power of nature, while also acknowledging the potential of technology to enhance and enrich the human experience.- which is all related to<<yes, thats why i gave up. i dont want to fight. why to fight when you cant win.
i was made this way, so if i cant get it, i dont want to care. and if i feel guilty,. then its your fault because you dont see me, dont know what i want to say, and i am too tired to explain you all of this. it scares me. did ai and harari won then? well, with me, say yes. bye, go f yourself if ou are blind to all this... (not saying to you, just ramble in general)ired to explain you all of this. it scares me. did ai and harari won then? well, with me, say yes. bye, go f yourself if ou are blind to all this... (not saying to you, just ramble in general)- Ale chápem („" - nechcem) - idú do toho; a sú z toho prachy - no samozrejme. Zombie spoločnosť, čo žije z vlastnej (Západ) minulej slávy,
pochopiteľne, nemá nič iné v rukáve; (nič iné) na výber. Chcel by som sa čudovať - nemám čomu - snáď to (ak; toto všetko; bolo takto vždy(cky)- v skutočnosti kultúra, alebo ako tento zeitgest, pre-hauntológiu nazvať - tak zo 20-30 rokov je kultúra, jej piliere, morálka - všetko je to mŕtve.
[...]call this no-ask world Zombie-one.
You maybe heard about Vaporwave (outside of music genre), Hauntology, (Aenomoia) or Monument Mythos. Something like that, if not basically that. Are we afraid to question things from fear of losing them, them being stolen from us by some Bad actors, or that we will be labeled, marked as conspirators (let it be what it meant before, or even after shift of meaning)?[...]
Acid (Acid Dsgn too) Communism (and or Milleniwave)
is the name I gave to this range of ideas and actions. The concept of acid communism is a challenge but also offers promise. It's kind of a joke, but with a very serious end goal. It points to something that, at one point, seemed inevitable, but now seems inconceivable:
the convergence of class consciousness, socialist-feminist awakening, and psychedelic consciousness, the fusion of new social movements with a communist plan, an everyday life manifested through an unprecedented elegance. Acid Communism refers both to real historical processes and to the emergence of an imaginary that has not yet manifested itself in reality. Possibilities manifest their effect before they are even realized. The dominant forms of social organization are formed to suppress the realization of any other possible social formation. The imprint of "a world that could be free" can be traced to the very structures of a capitalist realist world that makes freedom impossible.The late cultural critic Ellen Willis said that the transformations envisioned by the counterculture would require "a social and mental revolution of unimaginable magnitude." [10] It is difficult, in our far more anemic times, to recreate the confidence with which the counterculture espoused that such a "social and mental revolution" not only could happen, but was already underway. And yet it is necessary to reflect on a time when the prospect of total liberation seemed imminent.[18]
[...] that the function of the mass media is to manipulate our imaginations so that to identify the fulfillment of our desires with the purchase of the goods sold to us by the system". [13] Mass culture—and musical culture in particular—was more a field of struggle than a form of capital rule. The relationship between aesthetic forms and politics was unstable and two-way — aesthetic forms did not simply "express" some pre-existing capitalist reality, they anticipated and produced new possibilities, new realities. Commercialization was not a point where this tension would always and inevitably be resolved in favor of capital. On the contrary, goods could potentially be the very means by which revolutionary currents were spread.Going far beyond the simple narrative that, "the 60s ushered in neoliberalism," these new readings of the 1970s allow us to understand the brave intelligence, ferocious energy, and improvisational imagination of a revolution against in neoliberalism. The establishment of capitalist realism was by no means a simple restoration of the old state of affairs:
the compulsory individualism imposed by neoliberalism was a new form of individualism, an individualism set against the different forms of collectivism that flourished in the 1960s. This new individualism was designed to transcend us and make us forget all these collective forms of life. Thus, reflecting on these multiple forms of collectivity is less an act of remembrance and more a struggle against oblivion, a way of remembering, the call of the ghost of a world that could be free....
The counterculture of the 60s is now inseparable from its own simulation, and the reduction of an entire decade to a few "iconic" images, to "classic" songs and nostalgic memories has neutralized the real promises that were blown up back then.
...
"The past is much safer," observes one of the narrators of Margaret Atwood's dystopian satire The Heart Goes Last , "because everything it contains has already happened. It cannot be changed: so, in a way, there is nothing to fear." [8] Despite what Atwood's narrator believes, however, the past has not "already happened." The past is constantly being retold, and the political meaning of narratives from the side of sovereignty is to suppress the possibilities that are waiting in earlier times, ready to reawaken. (FUCK THOSE WHO DO)The past is constantly being retold
...
Capitalism is a system that creates artificial scarcity to produce real scarcity, a system that produces real scarcity to create artificial scarcity. Real scarcity – the scarcity of natural resources – now haunts the Capital. / This is the Real - which the fantasy of infinite "expansion", of unchecked "growth" must work overtime to cope with. The artificially constructed condition of scarcity and scarcity—which is essentially a lack of time—is necessary, / as Marcuse says, in order to distract us from the innate possibility of freedom. The victory of neoliberalism, of course, has always depended on confusing the concept of freedom itself. Neoliberal "freedom", / apparently, is not freedom from work, but freedom through work. [bleh]...
"In any case, Marcuse allows us to see why the Sixties still continue to disturb. In recent years, the 60s suddenly seem like a distant, deep past, so exotic and distant that we can't even imagine living in it. At the same time the sixties now seem like a historical period much more alive than our own — a time when people lived intensely, when things really "happened". However, the 60s haunt us not because of some irreparable and unrepeatable confluence of factors, but because its potential was realized and democratized – because this was the time when the prospect of a life free from compulsion and drudgery manifested itself. All this, on the part of the system, must be constantly suppressed." [--------------- i call it utopistic nostalgia[6];]...
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Philosophy
philosophy is rooted in using the media of the past and the messages of sharing, inclusivity, anti-bigotry, honesty, and just overall being kind to others (often referred to by adherents as "The Golden Rule"), and hopes to use that as a vessel to promote this overall positive message.
Hopefully, we will steer society away from the iceberg dead ahead that is complete and total techno-dystopia; the likes of which Cyberpunk literature of the past warned us about; a sort of tracing back our footsteps to see where it is we went wrong exactly and attempt to course correct in the process.However, the closer and closer we get to crashing into the aforementioned metaphorical iceberg, the more that crawling negative sense of existential dread creeps in and one is forced to retreat into the comforting arms of nostalgia until things hopefully calm down and don’t burn down around us.
Zeitgeist[4]: https://www.tumblr.com/black-lodge-gatekeeper/728740627781648384/dear-millenials-in-their-early-30s-do-you-also?source=share:
black-lodge-gatekeeper, Sep 17 (2023):
Dear millenials in their early 30s, do you also sometimes, during a normal day, working, content, relatively calm, get these unexpected, huge, albeit very short lasting waves of
I HATE THE STATE OF THE WORLD, I HATE MYSELF, I AM USELESS, I HATE LIVING IN A TINY RENTED ROOM, I HAVE NO GENERATIONAL WEALTH, MY GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED ME, I CANNOT FIND A RELIABLE PARTNER, NOTHING WILL BE AS PROMISED DURING MY FORMATIVE YEARS, I HATE SOCIAL MEDIA, I AM DUMB, I SHOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL, I WANT TO OFF MYSELFemotions that get back to normal after like 10 minutes? Is it a canon event? Can't we interfere?
adulting#millenials#work
@K1ng1995 I think that there are two reasons why people don't want to work anymore.
The first is that they have been taught that their ambition is destructive and that anything they would have wanted to do will just burn electricity that they believe is a more finite resource than it actually is.
The second is that because fewer people are being ambitious leaders, those who tend to be followers don't have anyone to inspire them to work for them.
- On https://youtu.be/iUCyfmF20Qc - "We Ignored the Warnings. Now YOU Pay the Price"[19] by The Foundation for Economic Education
- and e.g. How Degeneracy will kill Civilization - YouTube
- View: https://www.tumblr.com/nando161mando/742242144533823488?source=share[6][19]
- this type of slacking... it seems new, from 2015-on... idk why. like, can imagine, but what is the (sudden) urge? they just said to themselves "this is over" and went like, "fuck it we will ruin it if we cant have it nice"?
- View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIILnDJHqRk
- inability to get past our past (1980s) - other one, "west has fallen" one
"Rollerwave", a.k.a. "70s Vaporwave"
Rollerwave is indicative of a future where the Cold War never ended, computers still feature cold dark screens with robotic green text, and mundane tan office buildings are ever-present.Like Vaporwave, Rollerwave can serve as a deconstruction and critique of capitalism and a reflection on nostalgia- however, unlike Grindhouse, Rollerwave takes a purely utopian approach, with a hint of societal issues and ominous tones thrown in. It does not concern itself with the lower classes of society. Like the setting of Rollerball, Rollerwave is a futuristic projection of the 1970s where society does not advance in style or attitude past the 1970s, but makes substantial leaps ahead in technology, and the wanton economic corruption of the decade gives way to systemic injustice.[The first modern Rollerwave album, "To Every Man," created by a musician going by the name of Dan Frost in 2017, was unknown until he went public in June 2021 after the album cover's leak. Frost describes the term "Rollerwave," which he coined, as an ironic response to Vaporwave. The full album was released on July 1, 2021
on Dan Frost's YouTube channel.Earlier music that could be termed Rollerwave music can generally be attributed to the Scottish electronic music group Boards Of Canada, whose music is undeniably 70s, making use of analog reel-to-reel machines and keyboards, however some aspects of Daft Punk's music, in particular the music video for Technologik or the theme and tone of Random Access Memories, are reminiscent of the 70s. This makes sense, considering that according to the 20-30-year-cycle nostalgia for the 70s would crop up in the 90s and 2000s.]
- While Rollerwave music is usually electronic in nature, sampling 70s electronic groups such as Kraftwerk or Giorgio Moroder, soft easy-listening pieces and adult contemporary music from the 70s can also apply, or be sampled to create new pieces. (Think Meatloaf, Jim Croce or Billy Joel during his Stranger period.) Also Muzak. The latter pieces are considered "soft" while electronica-centric remixes can be deemed "hard" rollerwave.
- Modern Rollerwave, unlike the catalog of BoC, relies more heavily on samples than original synth scores, and utilizes all the auditory techniques of vaporwave (i.e. chopping, splicing, looping, and reverb).
- Rollerwave music typically samples American 70s folk songs, PSAs, cartoons of the era, and Prog Rock, and implements rock organs, Moog synths, and drum machines, all played back on cassette or 8-track. Some notable bands which reflect the gist of Rollerwave music include:
- Boards Of Canada, Talking Heads, Yes, The Buggles, Giorgio Moroder, Lalo Schifrin, Kraftwerk, Electric Light Orchestra, Stardust, Devo, Andre Previn and Blondie
- Rollerwave music typically samples American 70s folk songs, PSAs, cartoons of the era, and Prog Rock, and implements rock organs, Moog synths, and drum machines, all played back on cassette or 8-track. Some notable bands which reflect the gist of Rollerwave music include:
Futuristic dystopian office space seen in James Caan's 1975 film Rollerball, the namesake of Rollerwave.
Screenshot from a fan-created Boards Of Canada music video, presumably from a 70s episode of Sesame Street.
Junior Bruce, a character from Roger Corman's 1975 film Death Race 2000.
Visual Representation of Rollerwave originally uploaded by user vaporwavemaster1 to the Agora Road Macintosh Cafe forums March 8, 2021.
Anyone remember what Milleniwave was about? SuccessImages and FB memes (old people FB - minions, those success images, "in my days/then-today" etc.) crap would maybe fit in there (well not Millennial, yet, the vibe - under diff. name...), if that is what it meant
If not, then ive got idea of those visuals above mentioned; maybe even flowers, glitters and cursive (+ "kids nowadays cant...") - meant un-ironically, but also in "coarse", un-easthetical "all-in-one-place" kitsch collages
- called "Boo(*mer*)NetCore"
- CollegeHumor after it stopped being somehow funny... Millennial memes, aesthetics? (BuzFeed, etc. ...)
*** (just name--slide-in)
- there is also this term called
"Millennial guilt": [...] Millennial guilt is the name (Ariel Rubin, Medium.com) gave to this feeling
— when you’re supposed to be independent and stable, but you can’t help
but feel guilty when you do need that extra helping hand. And I know people will say, “There’s no shame in asking!” but honestly, the attitude that older generations have towards us will prove otherwise. [...]
Future anticipation
(photo)album: https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?media/albums/lost-future-post-occupy-nonsense-world-boring-dystopia.39/
album 2: https://sk.pinterest.com/simonj21000/grafick%C3%BD-dizajngraphic-design/nostalgia-+-lost-futures/
https://pin.it/7JM9WUP - nostalgia + lost futures (pinterest)
https://youtu.be/FDCk8PnIOBo[6] - this is where it is/was
I also like clear plastics and kind of hope to buy myself an Apple Newton eMate 300 one day, albeit I have no idea what I would use it for...
And if we are about to talk about cars, I can talk hours about cars... I have gigabytes of photos, some personal magazine scans, custom cars, concept cars...
I guess, I should leave it at this for now, but if you are interested in cars as much as I am - just let me know. I can upload my whole collection, if you want.
I have something to add. In my opinion, as someone rather poetically put it somewhere "humanity collectively lost belief in itself". I myself feel you can clearly see it starting somewhere in the 20's, when people dreamt of space, and then all those space flights actually happened, and they've influenced people for at least a decade.
/ But then, as people figured out that there will be no space flights, no distnat planets, no alien races or whatever else, you can pretty much see how science fiction was replaced in culture by much grittier cyberpunk genre. Still, at that moment at least computers were a novelty, and so people still had fantasies about AI, robots and cybernetics. As those became a mundane reality - or much closer to being one
- they pretty much repeated the way of sci-fi: people realised just how much of cybernetics and AI we will have and... well, pretty much stopped pushing the envelope for whatever reason... I'm not sure why it happens. But once the biggest part of the world realises how impossible them fantasies are, they, in general, cease to be. Dreams only held up among general population when they have some slight chance of possibility of actually being real.
I mean, you still can find those traces of genuine dreams - usually, in some small, underground places. Indy movies and video games, undergrounds music, small kit cars made by order, etc. But they never-ever go big.
You can argue what people before 20's dreamt about, but I guess it is pretty much adamant that there were dreams. Nowadays when we know everything, it is hard to dream about something - you gotta be practical, logical, material. And it is further enforced by society for whatever reason. Something along those lines... I've wrote this idea about half a dozen times at this point, yet today I kind of feel I did not make myself clear. But I hope you've got the idea.[23]
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I wouldn't call it romanticism, but more so apathy to the extreme. People are clearly displeased with the state of everything, but fixing anything in a reasonable amount of time would require a period of discomfort and despite how much we shit on everything, I think we would all like to keep our comforts.
Trying to change anything while maintaining those comforts would take a considerable amount of time and effort. A lot of younger people have worked hard without seeing the fruits of their labour, so they don't see much of a point to subjecting themselves to a larger workload for the same outcome they've experienced a million times before.
We like to think we're selfless, but we're all selfish, obviously some more so than others, but you get the idea. We would like to see good things happen to ourselves and the people immediately surrounding us first and foremost. Good things only happening down the line when we're all gone can be demoralizing.[23]
> me (reply):
yes. (and not only end times - just change, "revolution") "now or nothing"
lot of time, here, in central-eastern europe, there was this (but not only here) force-feeding/cramming facts ad-absurdum. from like 1840s maria theresia, and even before... - just "making (manufacture) workers" but for the new "to be born", there must be something external - we cant imagine yet - we want, it, - but cant see; we are biased
waiting for (Godot) miracle - or catastrophe - to change things, shake up the ways, - "just, please, God, wtf, let something to happen!"
you maybe dont want to die - you just want for this "boredom" to end, change - something like 60s explosion of alt-cultures - to not be content anymore, to create New futures (and there it is - Mark Fisher, arguing over (i am simplifying - , and want to read Ghosts of my life) "dead, lost future" - e.g. -no way out- , future we cant even imagine - living just in this never-ending, contemporary present day, that one that was "promised" to be great "year 2000 (22)", somewhere from year 1950 maybe...
> ans:
The greatest loss of the web wasn't decentralizacion, it was tech positivism. We do no longer search for a positive future,
we remind ourselves of nostalgic futured corrupted by our modified version of the "old days". We do no longer search for hope and a future, we resort to fake ones so we can try to escape the general soulless spirit that is present everywhere, like ultraminimalism or Corporate Memphis[4][8]. - [23]
Nostalgia, and by extension Vaporwave, is a generally depressive phenomenon. Our community is a collage of confused youth and wistful adults that are connected only by our common disenfranchisement[11]. On some level, we all recognize the degenerative state of our culture, our homes, and our status as sovereign human beings. Far from the empowering tool that it was advertised as in decades past, modern technology serves to remove as much agency as possible from the user, who is in reality more of a product that the services they use.
To me, traditional Vaporwave is a sorrowful reflection of the Western world, and a critique[4] of the technocratic "globohomo" capitalist system that has ruined the idealistic vision of the future that we were all promised.
I don't think it's a movement, because we're not moving anywhere[11]. I think it's more apt to describe vaporwave as a community of the truly disenfranchised (as opposed to those who only believe they are disenfranchised). I'm just another member.[23]
manpaint said:[23]
As for thing like Aero giving hope, I think its just because we associate this style with the aforementionned thing.
or that feeling, "living in the future"
when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
@manpaint : Always remember that love and hate are both two side of the same coin.
- which reminds me of thread [sic] "MLP and New Sincerity" - about being sincere, "you", - all that *sweet* (or not) jazz...
雨、Some_porcupine、 逃げ出した後 said:
or that feeling, "living in the future"
when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
I think most of the current "holy fuck the future is going to be so bad" vibe come from the notion that the future had been previously overhyped that backfired overly. Truth to be told, I am unsure if there is even something to blame for that. Probably just the result of a post Cold War world I guess.
alix said:
I mean, Gen Z is already liking Y2K, Frutiger and shows like Lain, so why wouldn't some of them start looking in the more niche parts?
photoalbum on cultural shifts, related to this "News at 11" namesake, and has name from eponymous Vaporwave album by CatCorp. (see below)
talk: https://sites.google.com/view/utopistic-nostalgias/domov-utopistic-nostalgias#h.8e93rua04hn (postmodernism, metamodernism, simulacra)
- Topics:
giving up, making up own reality, silently walking away from "old culture", "millenial revolution", "west has fallen", r-w politics in 2020s politics, mistrust in govs and higher institutions ("what else are you hidding/lies/it is not that deep bro") - tiredness, switch-and-bait "life-help" (gurus), alt-right (soc.) theories [sigmas, bros]... :
Eras breakdown
(80s/)90s - "conspi. nuts" ("what are they (gov.) hidding from us?!") (occult, mystery, conspi. themes in games and media)
2000s - "future will be bright! we have computers!" (50s promises)
2010s - "how can we fight back and use this knowledge from past to make, form, shape our own new future!?" (such things as "millenial revolution"... | but too, lot of alt. subcultures go mainstream)
2015-2020s - is gov. ruining things again? (fighting back; when this fired, people just leave soc. media, "walk away" from drama, spooks and traps | 90s, part 2)
- again, huge gov. mistrust; rightwing Europe in-by 2020s, populism (neolib. failure);
as in 80s and 90s (by 2012s,) netpunk/warez/libgen... "piracy" is high, while last remnants of technopositivism try to catch second breath ("tiktok/youtube revolutionairies")
tired, numbed down people - "if I don't have anything (to lose), anything is allowed", positive ("vibey") nihilism (mainly, late millenials, zillenials and huge(ly) gen-z growing out old from "promised futures" of frutiger aero and eco...)
But what caused the heightened maliciousness? Is it "luxury disease", too much comfort and carefree *lifestyle*? Rebels without cause?
Disdain might be a better word since it better epitomizes the kinds of people who snub their nose at things that work because it doesn't satisfy their image of what life ought to be. I think cosmopolitan bugmen are basically just puritans without God. The same sort of people who probably don't grasp that if it sounds dumb, but it works, it isn't dumb.
Death by luxury... eh, kind of, yes. The bigger point is that these people deny the grounds they were spawned from. They're rootless, and because they're rootless, they gravitate only to outward appearances and flee from anything that might have substance. It's why the concepts of pregnancy and death terrify them. They can't live between heaven and earth because they're stuck in a world of mirages, ever chasing the fata morgana.
Edit: though, originally, I had meant more to refer to the government and elites who, I believe, intentionally try to poison and subvert the masses to ensure their own hold on power.
agora road
addendum:
#0 punks and emos of 2000s-2010s:
basically "When we were young" fest, - safe for fact it was then "current thing": pic-rel + all those rock, punk, emo, - things (idea(l)s) playing on radio --- a psyop??? + 80s (music, not aesthetics) nostalgia occuring around that time... : music-rel (yeah, pretty much this playlist is "getting rich" from nostalgia - go, figure :/)
#1 youtube campaign "broadcoast yourself"
- dawg man, i am so confussed how we could "get bought" over this - and believe come corporation! it sounds so - ironic; looking at it from lens of someone, living in *these* times "after fad"... - really believing(?) that commonmen can, thru sheer "influence" thru net, shape world... (what a joke!!!) [were we sold on *this feeling"!???][1]
#1b general naiivity over "corporations allowing us all this"
- how was that not suspicious!! i wonder... (letting our guard and awareness so low) ~ but then, werent we (born 1999-and so; living with siblings (sister), of 8 year difference...)
#1.5 campaign of web providers (geocities, goDaddy or such), *basically* saying "be you"/"promote yourself"
(if you get me, that is; i am - getting nostalgic, over something i very fogly remember - in fact, now i get - why those "boomers" over here are getting nostalgic over living in socialism (when, they were kids... - so was i...)
--- WAS this all^ psy-op - contrarian messages, just "selling feeling", scham, make-believe dreams?
or is it that *there somewhere*, it was "all taken away from us" - well, as i see, that is very little probability, and it was just tactic to "get everyone on net" - those fxxx bastards!! (#me, being naiive...)[1]
rel.: # Dead Internet Theory
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 13:19 (discord)
has this "west has fallen" mood in younger gen-z a name?
https://sites.google.com/view/utopistic-nostalgias/domov-utopistic-nostalgias#h.fniwojbpcr9d ("news at 11 postmodernism")
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 13:20
people waking up lol
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 13:20
yes
but it will be forgotten i fear happened before
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 13:21
depends, i was raised very politically so my car when i was like 18 was littered with bumper stickers as if i was a 42 year old stoner hippie and a few other friends were the same, but then some are raised just like boomers and are effectively boomers.
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 13:21
it is similar to corecore, but it is more of "positive nihilism", it is "if i have nothing then i have nothing to lose"
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 13:22
the tumblr, twitter "activism"?
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 13:23
nah i was abt that life lol
didnt rlly voice that on social media much
it kinda set in stone how over time the definition of "informed" and liberalism is completely ruined in modern america tho so i stopped repping the stickers lmao
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 13:24
oh cool the hyper meta obsession with (fake) academia a lá wikipedia and obscure finds bore me
"how can i connect A with B, that makes no sense, so i convince soyacks on gategate that world is falling apart?"
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 13:35
u might actually b interested in this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0aX8QMkFAI
Nihilism vs. Existentialism vs. Absurdism — Explained and Compared
therez also the white pill n black pill which relates to accelerationism which prob iz a more extreme version of absurdism
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 13:50
>(fake) academia a lá wikipedia and obscure finds bore me ofcourse itz not freakn academia when itz philosophy, itz a question of what's possible, if it bores u either try to understand, ask what this or that means, or find something simpler >how can i connect A with B, that makes no sense might b unrelated, but Sematary combined black metal with chicago drill and made it make sense, sometimes people see patterns in things and via unexpected connections you can find deeper insights if u do
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 13:55
i know XD. i t is more about the snark those people make it is not problem that it is possible, but that corecore, things that "arent there", something about those takes, basically "i am so special" edgelords who think they know better than anyone else, old people are stupid, and that only they "know le truth"
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:00
oh u prob are thinking of "" the thing iz people like memeanalysis and jreg are saying:
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 14:00
used to be like that "i hate everyone, myself, hate, universe, you, and i am special. i hate you just because you have same opinion as me, so unoriginal!" if you get me
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:00
wait wrong one
they aren't pretentious old men trying to force people into believing what they believe they're more of speculating things, it's like diving into inspiration more than getting scolded
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:01
that's post-modernists
we're in a metamodern era
we do not make fun of capitalism we embrace being stupid and being cringe
well maybe make fun of capitalism since itz still evil
"i hate everyone" iz reddit "be nice" iz s4s 4chan
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:08
a simpler way of putting it, i shud have done diz a lot by know iz Bo Burnham going from Repeat Stuff (i hate slop) to White Woman's Instagram (slop haz sincerity)
i recom those 2 songz btw, big contrast
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 14:12
is it like "before corn syrup" vs "after corn syrup"?
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:12
u so silly
but sure we can prob put it that way
if u hate corn syrup (normie shid) why don't u try it? maybe like it ironically? then proceed to actually like it unironically
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 14:13
like, one goes like "what can i do" vs "nothing cant be done, so i will pretend it is not there"?
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:13
oh yeah ur unto it
I'll explain Gondola that way, he also relates to the 4 stages of simulacra btw, people said "what can I do" a number of times until it finally went back again
I said simulacra cuz I want you to search it, it's not me being pretentious or trying to be smart, i want you to get curious and learn more terms
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 14:19
i seen the one with money
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:19
lawl nvr notcied it looked like a dollar
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:20
what do ya think?
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 14:20
gold, certificate, banknote, credit card, bitcoin
there was description of the stages how money were real, but when golden standard was cancelled, money lost its meaning and connection with reality, therefore becoming uncanny and postmodern, bitcoin is metamodern or so
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:23
okay ur fully in it
based
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 14:25
some_porcupine (formely simon..) — dnes v 14:26
i hate bad written characters. Madam web was characterized as having grey morality and being unruly but only when it was for each situation. Noticed so in the Charmed remake series, Ocean 3/Spy girls with that actress from twilight...
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:29
yeah the original meaning of being based
not caring
lil b
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 14:30
being positive too
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:30
datz actually p coole
"based" isnt rlly a 4chan word tbh well now, itz more of "you're coole" imo but if it iz being positive datz actually rlly coole
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 14:31
thats what it used to mean from the mouth of Lil B himself
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:32
"being yourself and not caring what others think of you, to carry yourself with swagger" lawl closer 2 cringe than u think
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 14:32
"Based means being yourself," says Lil B. "Not being scared of what people think about you. Not being afraid to do what you wanna do. Being positive. When I was younger, 'based' was a negative term that meant like dopehead, or basehead. People used to make fun of me. They was like, 'You’re based.' They’d use it as a negative. And what I did was turn that negative into a positive. I started embracing it like, 'Yeah, I’m based.' I made it mine. I embedded it in my head. Based is positive." - Lil B
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:32
TYBG
Yung Siemens 6ES71556AU000CN0 — dnes v 14:32
PartyPirateKitty! ☠ — dnes v 14:37
w8 hold on actually Based - Negative Based - Positive Based - above the normal person, pretentious negative many memes later Based - 2 be truely based u must accept being cringe, Positive, different meaning but echos positive
itz fully simulacra!!
A long time, London-trained asset and close collaborator of Canada’s Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau was Maurice Lamontagne, a Club of Rome member and former President of Canada’s Privy Council from 1964-65.
Of all of the Club of Rome’s members, Lamontagne was the most candid in identifying the Earth’s greatest enemy to be human creativity itself. Writing in his Senate Committee Reports of 1968-1972 which reformed science policy funding and planning, Lamontagne wrote:
“Nature imposes definite constraints on technology itself and if man persists in ignoring them the net effect of his action in the long run can be to reduce rather than to increase nature’s potential as a provider of resources and habitable space… But then, an obvious question arises: How can we stop man’s creativeness?”
Correctly recognizing that the yearning to discover the unknown is built into the human condition, Lamontagne answers his own question, writing:
“How can we proclaim a moratorium on technology? It is impossible to destroy existing knowledge; impossible to paralyze man’s inborn desire to learn, to invent and to innovate… In the final analysis we find that technology is merely a tool created by man in pursuit of his infinite aspirations and is not the significant element invading the natural environment. It is material growth itself that is the source of conflict between man and nature.”
Thus, creativity and its fruits of technological progress are acceptable only IF they reduce the assumed conflict between man and nature posited by Lamontagne. “Bad” technology in Lamontagne’s formulation, has the effect of increasing humanity’s material growth (i.e.: powers of productivity). If, on the other hand, we promote technologies of a low energy flux density form, such as windmills, solar panels and biofuels, which reduce the energy available and thus the amount of economic activity in which man can engage, then technology can be defined as a “good” thing” according to this twisted logic.
This concept was echoed by another Club of Rome member and collaborator with Lamontagne on his Senate Report named Omond Solandt. Solandt made his career as the science advisor to Lord Louis Mountbatten (Prince Philip’s pedophile mentor) during WWII and headed Canada’s Defense Research Board until 1957, where he collaborated on MK Ultra alongside the infamous Ewan Cameron at McGill University. Testifying to the Lamontagne Senate Commission in 1970 Solandt said: “There is no longer any need to advance science. The need is rather to understand, guide and use science effectively for the welfare of mankind.”
What defines “the welfare of mankind” in the mind of an MK Ultra proponent should give one chills.
In preparation for the “post-industrial order” that was unleashed with the 1971 floating of the US dollar and the destruction of the Bretton Woods monetary system, Lamontagne prescribed that the “new wisdom” should no longer aim at discoveries in atomic, medical and space sciences, in order to focus on more “practical” engineering endeavors. He also proposed that funding to advanced science be diminished by widening the definition of “science” itself to embrace the humanities, monetary economics and social sciences. Those programs then began absorbing the funding that had formerly been directed to research on pure science. Lamontagne stated this in volume one of his report:
“The new wisdom prescribes that the additional R&D effort be devoted to the life sciences and social sciences rather than the physical sciences… to economic and social objectives rather than curiosity and discovery.”
[...]
In the pro-growth cultural dynamic of the 1960s and 1970s, the master key to this new age of abundance was understood to be found in the domain of fusion energy. The processes of fusing atoms like helium and hydrogen isotopes in order to generate vast amounts of energy had been harnessed after WWII, but sadly the application of this technology had only known destructive ends via thermonuclear weapons. However, there was no reason to think that peaceful uses of this immense power could not be made available if moral national policies could encourage it. The heat and energy densities of atomic fusion were incredible with a spoonful of ocean water yielding greater energy availability than thousands of barrels of oil.[26] > [27]
[...] In exchange for the commodities that enrich their lives [...] individuals sell not only their labor but also their leisure time. [...] People live in apartment buildings — and they have private cars, but they can no longer escape to a different world. They have huge fridges full of frozen food. They have dozens of newspapers and magazines that support the same ideals. They have innumerable options, innumerable gadgets that are all of the same kind and which preoccupy them and distract them from the real issue – which is, the awareness that they could work less and determine for themselves their real needs and ways of satisfying them".
—Herbert Marcuse, Eros and Civilization [2].[18]
Feeling (moodboard):
music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCLAK5uy_khfoBlJ96kYmBivOddcrO8UO33YbRbLf4 (I Was a Teenage Dirtbag)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ8uXn_ajUexjQippMr-YJW3Wn3OILZQO ("News At 11")
- "What we lost..."
The term Raygun Gothic[3][3] was actually coined in 1981 by William Gibson in his short story The Gernsback Continuum, close to two decades after it fell out of popularity, but was used to describe the Streamline Moderne aesthetic, also known in context as 'The Tomorrow that Never Was'. Despite this, there have been false attributions of Raygun Gothic being a darker future of the 1960s. Despite it originally being used to describe Streamline Moderne, it is now a term linked to The Googie aesthetic.
visuals: https://sk.pinterest.com/search/pins/?e_t=b42bdc437ba44a73a748a9d08fac6a05&q=Vintage+Futurism&rs=srs&source_id=ers_2m0lh051 - [3]Vintage Futurism[12][21][14][16][29][30][31][32]
list:
9:10 - What the '90s Thought the Internet[5] Would Become - KnowledgeHusk
10:03 - Past Predictions of the Future Every Decade - hochelaga
10:00 - What The 2000s Thought Today Would Be: Phones - KnowledgeHusk
9:52 - The Most Boring Dystopia: 1999 Microsoft 'Home of the Future' - KnowledgeHusk
24:33 - What Will Future Homes Look Like? Filmed in the 1960's - Narrated by Walter Cronkite - 16mm Educational Films
https://youtu.be/C6D_WuLWVrQ - Let's Time Travel To The Year 2100. Here's What To Expect. - Joe Scott
Mini-gallery
lost future / post-occupy nonsense world / boring dystopia | Agora Road Forum- for Gallery, see Retro-Futurism #Gallery[16]
- Albert Barillé
- John Berkey - johnberkey.com | John Berkey was an American artist known for his space and science fiction themed works. Some of Berkey's best-known work includes much of the original poster art for the Star Wars trilogy, the poster for the 1976 remake of King Kong and also the "Old Elvis Stamp". | Wikipedia
- Rel. imgs:
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/448952656621868892/
- https://sk.pinterest.com/search/pins/?e_t=b73f2beade1348a28396d063abdadf27&q=Cybercore+Wallpaper&rs=srs&source_id=ers_9okyY7K5
- https://sk.pinterest.com/simonj21000/grafick%C3%BD-dizajngraphic-design/retro-futurism/
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/717620521900034025/
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/468515167497422541/
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/2322237300227580/?e_t=45293b2191774a65995dc236d3aee3f4&e_t_s=search_pin_collection (inspired by 60s futurism)
- https://sk.pinterest.com/jerrymaddux/the-future-that-wasnt/
- exteriors: (images)
ExteriorsTerms: [12] (galleries)
- (pinterest) retrofuturism, y2k: https://sk.pinterest.com/search/pins/?e_t=ab51e88b4c1c4d06b8f8103230f49842&q=Retro+Futurism&rs=srs&source_id=ers_aDXbVrFQ
- lush, futuristic: https://sk.pinterest.com/search/pins/?e_t=ab51e88b4c1c4d06b8f8103230f49842&q=%EB%AF%B8%EB%9E%98%EB%8F%84%EC%8B%9C&rs=srs&source_id=ers_aDXbVrFQ
- green brutalism: https://sk.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=green%20brutalism
- futuristic (blue): https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/24347654228404158/?e_t=ab51e88b4c1c4d06b8f8103230f49842&e_t_s=search_pin_collection
- "aquatic": https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/1196337390558688/?e_t=ab51e88b4c1c4d06b8f8103230f49842&e_t_s=search_pin_collection
- Mid Century Modern: https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/503769908326514245/ and related
Mid-Century Modern (Futurism) [and-or]
Another examples:
- tumblr pic-rels: (sources/moodboards/profiles in bold)
- https://64.media.tumblr.com/c15930c9ba77f88d1570d71b4f7c3a4c/019aa6333cd8337f-6a/s540x810/f4cee612e03645b582b63ebe4e306b617f211a72.jpg (https://www.tumblr.com/americanhell/725397130021322752?source=share)
- https://www.tumblr.com/upprinspirations/718052567625662464?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/upprinspirations/719513102450917376?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/upprinspirations/725037387269439488?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/67i203/725440582218039296?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/nagutsi/725400148685045761?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/behindmyinspiration/724383085189300224?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/behindmyinspiration/723817002567958528?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/behindmyinspiration/723903243232706560?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/sandavito/725535250345754625?source=share
- color palette - https://www.tumblr.com/yodaprod/725534459284389888/tiefighters-star-wars-droids-series?source=share
Gallery
https://www.tumblr.com/nestedneons/713740416801013760/by-jilt-with-nightcafe-prompt-and-other-results"better Windows 95" - Some classic Progressbar95 wallpapers from PB95-98. Progressbar95 is a nostalgic casual game about old computers available on Android, iOS and SteamThe future if...
List:
https://youtu.be/5joNRJ3C5ho (Google Wants To Destroy The Internet...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i0Ho-x7s_U&pp=ygULZHJtIHRoZSB3ZWI%3D (Google's trying to DRM the internet, and we have to make sure they fail)
https://youtu.be/xZ84vYaAhGA - Dingbats on the Internet: A Representative Sample of the Idiots and Lunatics, Rogues, Fakes, and Chiselers Swarming on the Net
Does Anyone Else Feel Like Everything Has Changed? by Stephen Antonioni - YouTube
Was the News Ever Unbiased? - Ryan Chapman
https://youtu.be/xglo2n2AMGc - Science Isn't Dogma, You're Just Stupid (Response to Formscapes), by Professor Dave Explains
https://youtu.be/fjR3b3lO63c - 2000s future dreams
#boring dystopia
- lost future / post-occupy nonsense world / boring dystopia | Agora Road Forum[20][23] - changes in public opinions; Shift[20] in understanding politics, culture and societal control
Alixie said: This completely sucks. Not only because of what most people already know about (company forcing games to completely stay in line with a set of imposed values), but because of the full-on shitstorm that may arrive.
Because instead of actually discussing this and trying to maybe put a stop to it, the only thing that may happen is as always, right-wing "anti-woke" Youtube channels going on a full meltdown over how they can no longer fap to their favourite Asian videogames
because the world elites are trying to stop them (honestly, if your main problem with things like these are that you can no longer continue your addiction to videogame tits
then you are as much of a "brainwashed sheep" as the people you accuse), and then everyone will just forget this and say "Well, it wasn't that bad actually", acting like if it was just some thing that got too exaggerated.
>me: yes (same as with snowden, wikileaks, panama papers(*), cambridge analytica, <other> papers, article 13 (*nothing* happened - but really?), ... they are just "facts" now - but nothing out from the counter-protests back in the day!
if you yell without thought, then, they will lampoon(?) you around that you are idiot for being angry about "such thing" the best thing is to thread without any noise and taking back what you was taketh from, idk how, but way is, not to react - or they won - theyd paint you idiot, >... either overton window;
(gaslight you and others that you are thinking wrong, overreact...) > if you got power, you can make it/them say 2+2=5, facts are yours... or rather, opinion on them; its all again the journobros talk and "graphs" out of ass...
(graph from A and data from B dont make graph, but worldview - skewed view, opinion) what they are trying for, would be unheard of back in 2000s, and questionable in 2010s... (*)if it werent for vaporwave album titles, id forgot about Panama papers - would you? e.g. how *that* became norm? : (~~)
- ~~ (my signature)
forum.agoraroad.com
https://archive.org/details/eu_Wired-1997-07_OCR/page/n180/mode/1up - "futures"... (good -vs- bad)
https://archive.org/details/howfuturebegan00giff/page/n27/mode/2up - y2k futurism
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/retro-futurism-cities.1967894/ - retrofutu archit.
The Fall of utopistic idea(l)s.
Tento clanok sa snazi ukazat, co sa moze stat v snahe o uskutocnenie vizii v clanku s podobnym nazvom. Treba sa naucit pozerat na akykolvek roblem z nadhladu, vzdy vidiet celkovy pohlad na vsetko okolo. Vascina ludi nanestastie vidi len ten svoj maly stvorcek pod sebou.
Technologie - uspavajuca hudba buducnosti
Prvy bod kritiky: VSETCI publikovani vedci a vyskumnici tvrdia, ze v ICH odbore COSKORO nastanu PREVRATNE zmeny a bude to VYZNAMNYM prinosom.
Otazky: Snazia sa kvoli uskutocneniu svojej vizie [35] len predat svoj produkt? (predaj produktu := ciel vizie) Dostali by grant na vyskum, keby toto netvrdili? Mali by rovnako velku podporu, keby povedali, ze vysledky vizii budu az o 80 rokov, a nie o 20-30 rokov t.j. za ich zivota? Boli rovnake sluby v mode aj poslednych 50 rokov? Naplnili sa?
Ked sa blizili 90. roky, bol som skluceny. Zacinalo mi byt divne, ze vsetky novinky slubovane pocas 20 predchadzajucich rokov sa nejako nepriblizuju. "Ved len o 10 rokov bude rok 2000 a budu antigravitacne auta, jazdiace na vzduch alebo vodik a budu tu ine tie prezentovane veci z DALEKEJ BUDUCNOSTI roku 2000.[35]"
(Do roku 2000 po prevrate prisli sice nejake tie diare a PDA, ale nebolo to nic z toho co by ste mohli vidiet na obrazku roku 2000 z rokov 1970-1980.) Zacinal som mat zly pocit z toho, ze sa tieto veci asi nenastanu.
"V blizkej buducnosti budu cesty do vesmiru rovnako caste a jednoduche ako dnes cesta lietadlom." (skutocny citat) Taketo tvrdenia zaplavovali media pred patdesiatimi rokmi rovnako ako dnes. Tiez sa nemozno spolahnut na to, ze "od roku 2000 budeme vyrabat energiu vo fuznych elektrarnach", pretoze to svetove kapacity tvrdili v roku 1950 a neskor.
V roku 2000 tvrdili znova: "V roku 2050 bude mozne vyrabat energiu fuznou cestou."
Takze ak zoberiem lubovolny slub a budem ho opakovat s kadenciou 1 za 40 rokov, moj vyskumny ustav ma prezitie zarucene. Aspon dufam. Pre istotu toho budem tvrdit viac.
Je absurdne, ze to vobec cele funguje.
Cena - cena za pokrok
Na financovanie zariadeni a vedcov potrebnych na vyskumy je potrebny funkcny ekonomicky retazec. Vedec tvori, priemysel vyraba a spotrebitel kupuje.
Takyto retazec umoznuje investovat do vyskumu. Oblasti vyskumu sa s casom mierne rozsiruju. Pocet vyskumnikov ale narasta rychlejsie aby novinky radovo zlozitejsie (priklad I4004 -> Pentium4 po dnes, alebo Hercules -> Radeon 9800) mohli prichadzat v pravidelnych casovych intervaloch a tvorit ekonomicky stimul. Su predpoklady pre trvaly vznik dalsich tisicov vedeckych odbornikov, alebo nam chybaju uz dnes? Skutocne je tu dostatocna vedecka zakladna na VSETKY tie vizie?
Spotreba obyvatelov tejto planety zakonite rastie - v mene pokroku.
Venujme sa len energetickej spotrebe. Nielen spotrebe fosilnych paliv, ktorych sa v USA spotrebuje 50% svetovej spotreby. Vsetky zariadenia, ktore clovek vyrobil potrebuju energiu, ci uz pocas prevadzky alebo tiez vyroby.
Vznikaju otazky: Ake je mnozstvo volnej tepelnej energie, ktorym obstastnujeme tuto planetu? Ake je maximalne mnozstvo, ktore si mozeme dovolit dlhodobo uvolnovat? Venujme sa prvej otazke. Z jednej starsej schemy vidno, ze v pomere 100% k energii dodanej planete Zem Slnkom je z ludskej cinnosti 0,005%, z geotermalnej 0,02%. Na fotosyntezu sa spotrebuje 0,1%, na vietor 2% slnecnej energie. Ulozena mrtva organicka hmota (buduce fosilne paliva) tvori 0,004% energie dodanej slnkom.
Tieto cisla by ukazovali na 25% prekrocenie trvale udrzatelnej spotreby, ale... Spotreba paliv / produkcia volnej tepelnej energie stale rastie, azda linearne s casom. Sucasnym tempom mozeme ocakavat dvojnasobnu spotrebu paliv v rozpati rokov 2020-2030.
Popritom sa ale v 1991 na svetovej konferencii v Rio de Janeiro zavazne dohodlo znizovanie spotreby fosilnych paliv (a tym aj produkcie) na 50% spotreby roku 1991. Zacali sa kvoli tomuto hromadne vyuzivat obnovitelne zdroje? (Pripadne jadrove elektrarne ;))
Alebo bojuje kazdy stat za seba a svoje zaujmy? Slovensko dnes stoji na strane tych "dobrych", lebo sa o to administrativne staraju ludia ktorym na tom zalezi. Skoda len, ze na nas nezalezi.
Je absurdne, ze to vobec cele funguje.
The article discusses the potential risks and dangers of relying too heavily on promising technologies that may or may not be realized in the future. It mentions ways in which societies have been let down by technologies that did not live up to expectations. The article also raises questions about the costs of pursuing progress and the impact this has on the environment and society.- https://beta.character.ai/chat2?char=XG5C4eZfnTeKhQRmLVpyRN-5IXGRmxokvho3TOLLVCk
>mood (energy): https://sk.pinterest.com/search/pins/?rs=ac&len=2&q=happy+hardcore+aesthetic (pictured)
- https://aesthetics.fandom.com/f/p/44...52421
~ #2 - Happy hardcore x 90s positivism (also, 90s silicon valley dream on c.a.r.i. (are.na)) [look for https://www.michaklein.com/catalogue] - just note
- https://aesthetics.fandom.com/f/p/44...53803
~
90s positivism?
Tbh similar to global net coffeehouse (spiritualy speaking)[5]
Aesthetics: https://www.michaklein.com/catalogue (pic-rels) | happycore, rave, dopamine (retro-active) etc.
Playlist, Youtube, mildly related: 90s positivity mix · Thomas Knight | Spotify - Good Feeling 90s (retro-active)
idealism over connected world, better future, "internet communism"[5] if you will, usernet elitists in disapproval of Eternal September, "There is no Cabal", alt-net, pre-2005(7/8) net, pre- Zubatoff net capitalism, (tech-)positivism, relief, fun, freedom, love, compassion, understanding, ... (copy:)
pro-freedom hackers, cyberpunk(*), "long bloom", "promised 80s~y2k neverland", (once upon a time-space - Barrille) futures; human-library-utopic, free world, calm, pre-9/11 dreams (y2k), new ways-opportunities-progress, tech = (as) saviour, "gay space free commie", unity-community-mutual help-understanding[5](**), econ. boom, "kids are alright"/no real deal, small media-only, man vs himself/bad habits (spooks?), theories of mind and research (everything is relative>no meaning, value>nihilism); slow steady steps, new school(s) of thought, "kids = (are) future", "we biuld this city"/people-first, man-gov collab. ~mutual help...Or (and)
Lost futures, vaporwave + vaporWare, warez, cyberpunk, decentralised idealists, web of people (not people for web), being free, shaping new future, libertarian ("nice") "anarchy"...
@kevexboy · https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lGWEsQl4WU&ab_channel=Underrated - Ａｅｓｔｈｅｔｉｃ Ｖｉｂｅｓ | Future Funk / Vaporwave MixtapeYouTube:
"[Vaporwave] always feels so bittersweet; Like a dream that never came true. It's equal parts nostalgic and equal parts poignant."
this video: https://youtu.be/5xwLFRdewgE (Art of Computer Animation (1988))
these wallpapers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-pPL_qyGJM ("helvetica eco" vibes)
- ˇ ^ https://aesthetics.fandom.com/f/p/44...53936
-- Like this: https://kyberia.sk/id/8639748 #7[34]^ (https://aesthetics.fandom.com/f/p/44...53936/r/44...435546)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5sFBhokrIU&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DJBerala
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-yZJk9O96g&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23happy+hardcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgjKQLXyuGE&list=RDGMEMYH9CUrFO7CfLJpaD7UR85w&index=1&pp=8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgjKQLXyuGE&list=RDZgjKQLXyuGE&index=1&pp=8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPmAjQFhpA&list=RDEMhDxKxXg9u5l5BIr3J6udzQ&index=1&pp=8AUB
- windows vista media library - win7
https://www.tumblr.com/gpawj/716091485668409344/archive-uploader-hglr24?source=share < https://www.tumblr.com/gpawj > #global village coffeehouse #90's #media cd rom #windows 3.1 #world music
rel. to y2k, (asking chatgpt v3.5: )
- Fresh Start: The transition from the 20th century to the 21st century symbolized a fresh start for many people. It was an opportunity to leave behind the challenges and conflicts of the past and embrace a new era with optimism.
- Millennium Celebrations: People all over the world celebrated the year 2000 with a sense of hope and excitement. It was seen as a momentous occasion, and many cities organized elaborate events and fireworks displays to mark the occasion.
- Belief in Progress: The technological progress of the late 1990s contributed to the belief that innovation and advancement would continue to improve the quality of life in the new millennium. Many envisioned a future with greater convenience, connectivity, and opportunities.
- Expectations of Positive Change: People looked forward to positive changes in various aspects of life, including education, healthcare, communication, and entertainment. There was a sense that technology would drive these improvements. While the early 2000s did bring about significant technological advancements and changes, they also presented new challenges and complexities. However, the optimism of the late 1990s was a testament to the belief in human innovation and the potential for a brighter future through technology and positive change.
- Resolution of Y2K Issues: One of the main reasons for the decline in Y2K optimism was the relatively smooth resolution of Y2K-related problems. The extensive preparations made by governments, businesses, and organizations to address the Y2K bug led to minimal disruptions when the new millennium began. As a result, people's fears about widespread computer failures and chaos did not materialize, leading to a sense of relief but also a diminishing of the urgency associated with Y2K.
- Economic Downturn: The early 2000s saw the bursting of the dot-com bubble and a significant economic downturn. Many technology companies that were at the forefront of the Y2K preparations faced financial challenges, and the optimism that had accompanied the late 1990s tech boom waned. The economic uncertainty contributed to a more cautious outlook.
- Shift in Priorities: As the world moved past Y2K, new challenges and events took center stage. The September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States and subsequent geopolitical developments shifted public attention and priorities. The focus on national security and counterterrorism efforts replaced some of the optimism that had characterized the late 1990s.
- Realities of Technological Progress: While technology continued to advance, the dot-com bubble's burst demonstrated that not all technological innovations led to immediate prosperity. The complexities of the technology sector became more evident, leading to a more measured view of the potential and risks associated with technology.
- Natural Progression: Like many periods of optimism, the initial excitement often gives way to a more balanced and realistic perspective. The year 2000 represented a symbolic turning point, and as time passed, the world adapted to the challenges and opportunities of the new millennium.
- related thematic videos:
- 9:10 - What the '90s Thought the Internet Would Become - KnowledgeHusk
- 17:09 - 10 Things We Miss About The 1990's Internet - Dan Wood
- 23:08 - Internet Posts Used to Be Crazy - Aztrosist
- 43:04 - The Internet Used To Be Ugly - Huggbees
- 5:30 - When the Internet Was New | DARK SIDE OF THE 90'S - VICE TV
- 10:03 - Past Predictions of the Future Every Decade - hochelaga
- 10:00 - What The 2000s Thought Today Would Be: Phones - KnowledgeHusk
- 9:52 - The Most Boring Dystopia: 1999 Microsoft 'Home of the Future' - KnowledgeHusk
- 24:33 - What Will Future Homes Look Like? Filmed in the 1960's - Narrated by Walter Cronkite - 16mm Educational Films
- 16:08 - Terrible Predictions About The Future From 2005 - KnowledgeHusk
Gallery
- https://www.tumblr.com/11oh1/698945560623955968/httpinstagramcommun15h - better Get ready...
- Just feeling...
- https://www.tumblr.com/70sscifiart/725477406731845632
- What we dreamt of; laughable...
- + https://web.archive.org/web/20200503065237/https://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/19/technology/no-keys-just-soft-light-and-you.html, laser beam projected keyboard, (Marvels of science book) - y2k futuristic
Links: (Examples)
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/583919907954983513/visual-search/?x=16&y=16&w=532&h=677&imageSignature=fe5d19a7512be2aa55d75725cd64a548
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/201325045834238134/visual-search/?x=16&y=16&w=532&h=795&imageSignature=4fceaad32b3c32fa321f974e61beadd4
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/1266706136567442/visual-search/?x=16&y=16&w=532&h=817&imageSignature=0d7d4257f71e24c1628b89d6efc1eb44 (those...)
- https://sk.pinterest.com/pin/281543721244522/ (and similar ones)
- https://www.tumblr.com/never-obsolete/727914282091757568/pc-mag-february-2000-web-popularity-club?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/quirky-vg/727713623087218688/from-meremanoid?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/clyde49/724739197643128832/fanmade-space-ghost-coast-to-coast-macintosh-icons?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/popping-your-culture/723750642636767232/computer-ads-from-the-1960s-through-the-early?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/thisischeri/724844542840438784/instagram-cheripng?source=share
- https://www.tumblr.com/comfortfoodcontent/696737006515109888?source=share and related
Related:
Neoliberal-corporate-surrealism [20]
GVC...
clip-arts...
neoliberal-corporate-surrealism
https://www.michaklein.com/catalogue
similar to "Bubblegum Dance"...
- interesting: https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20150205-the-1990s-never-ended
- vibe: https://www.buzzfeed.com/andyneuenschwander/things-that-were-so-futuristic-when-you-were-a-kid
- article: https://www.mic.com/articles/11285/13-reasons-why-the-1990s-were-the-best-decade-ever
- blog: http://childrenofthenineties.blogspot.com/
- playlist - best 90s songs: https://audiocaptain.com/best-90s-songs/
- /gen: https://www.quora.com/What-s-something-about-the-80s-90s-or-early-2000s-that-leaves-you-feeling-nostalgic-when-thinking-about-it?share=1
- /lifestyle/women: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/31/as-a-1990s-teenager-the-world-gave-us-girl-power-and-pornification
- https://www.etsy.com/market/90s_positive - etsy / moodboard
- utopian scholastic,
- Hopecore (personal aesth.) - cyberdelic - cyberparadism/solarpunk > Wonderland, Cyberparadism, Global Village Coffeehouse and Hauntology - among others - [15][9]
- similar glassmorphism - frutiger aero - nostalgia (webcore n. - PA) - old web - 2010s net > mildly/loosely speaking, Sweet_nostalgia and Childhood_webcore* - #Romantism - bubblegum dance
- Related/Similar to the genres/aesthetics of (Promised Neverland)
- Vaporwave, Y2K, Cyberpunk and those sorts
- hackercore / old-web(*) (warez...)
- Related/Similar to the genres/aesthetics of (Promised Neverland)
- ... (and so on)
- Alt-Name: (TBA): "Quarter-to 21 (century)"
Other name(s): "the way we dreamed", "tech-zine future", ("too good...") > rel. name "Neverw(h)ere futures"(*); "foamform wanna-be's", - maybe even ( < rel. name) "Little of variables accounted for (LOVAF)" (< ?)
- (*) > sub-category: - Various futures: ($/ in-article): >> world imagined; in 10, 50, 100, 500 years - (1800s, 1900s, 1950s-1980s(**)) (type of retrofutu,)
Playlists:
- https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCLAK5uy_mDDi-duDMA8LZbMUN4PJzSW6Xkbhpujp4 - Feelin' Good in the 90s - A nostalgic trip back to britpop, big beat and boy bands.
- https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCLAK5uy_khfoBlJ96kYmBivOddcrO8UO33YbRbLf4&playnext=1&si=FwZQO37gmo7UuEaA - I Was a Teenage Dirtbag - Get nostalgic with this mix of pop-punk, nu-metal and alt-rock party hits from the '00s.
- https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCLAK5uy_m-0MtbPLhhIb4mCpWnJEgDIavJkrfcnrI&playnext=1&si=dXXC5j2naUn6ojjY - What's My Age Again? - Relive those Teenage Dirtbag days with this upbeat mix of pop-punk and hard rock anthems.
MOODBOARDS:
- futurism (that never came to be): https://www.tumblr.com/sciencefictionworld,
- https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/with/51153887792/ (mid-century moderna, futurism)
- https://www.tumblr.com/retroscifiart,
- look for posts from https://www.tumblr.com/scifiseries,
- https://www.tumblr.com/astromechapunk,
- https://www.tumblr.com/cyberpunkonline
https://poe.com/s/8gWlypHUbHrKSuMgxadIFisher argued that these movements reflect a sense of disillusionment with the present and a longing for a future that never arrived, a future that was promised by the technological and cultural advances of the 20th century but was ultimately derailed by economic and political forces beyond our control. He believed that the cultural obsession with lost futures reflects a deeper sense of malaise and despair, which he attributed to the neoliberal economic policies and social fragmentation of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.Yes, that's correct. Mark Fisher believed that the cultural obsession with lost futures reflects a deeper sense of malaise and despair that is present in contemporary society. He argued that this sense of malaise is a result of the failures of neoliberalism, which has led to economic inequality, social fragmentation, and a general sense of hopelessness and despair.Fisher believed that the cultural movements that are characterized by a sense of nostalgia and longing for lost futures, such as Vaporwave and Cyberpunk, are a response to this sense of malaise. These movements offer a way for people to express their frustration with the present and their longing for a better future, even if that future is only imagined or remembered.Overall, Fisher's work on lost futures is an attempt to understand the cultural and psychological underpinnings of contemporary[11] society. By exploring the ways in which cultural movements reflect and respond to the social and economic conditions of their time, Fisher sought to shed light on the deeper forces that shape our beliefs, values, and aspirations.Yes, that's correct. Mark Fisher believed that the cultural obsession with lost futures reflects a deeper sense of malaise and despair that is present in contemporary society. He argued that this sense of malaise is a result of the failures of neoliberalism, which has led to economic inequality, social fragmentation, and a general sense of hopelessness and despair.Yes, that's right. Fisher believed that the neoliberal economic policies of the late 20th and early 21st centuries have led to a sense of malaise and despair in contemporary society. He argued that these policies have created economic inequality, social fragmentation, and a general sense of hopelessness and despair among many people.Fisher believed that the cultural movements that are characterized by a sense of nostalgia and longing for lost futures[41], such as Vaporwave and Cyberpunk, are a response to this sense of malaise. He saw them as a way for people to express their frustration with the present and their longing for a better future, even if that future is only imagined or remembered.Fisher's work on lost futures is an attempt to understand the cultural and psychological underpinnings of contemporary society. By exploring the ways in which cultural movements reflect and respond to the social and economic conditions of their time, Fisher sought to shed light on the deeper forces that shape our beliefs, values, and aspirations.
https://poe.com/s/sIX3HaWJIBZG7fIwEkZxThe author also suggests several other possible names for this aesthetic, such as "the way we dreamed," "tech-zine future," and "Neverw(h)ere futures." They also suggest subcategories within the aesthetic, such as "Various futures," which includes imagined worlds in 10, 50, 100, and 500 years, and topics such as pro-freedom hackers, cyberpunk, and theories of mind and research. (?)Overall, the text suggests that the "Quarter-to 21 (century)" aesthetic is characterized by a sense of nostalgia for imagined or lost futures, as well as a belief in the power of technology and progress to create a better future. The aesthetic seems to be associated with various countercultural movements, such as cyberpunk and pro-freedom hacker culture, as well as with a general sense of optimism and hope for the future.- ^ https://aesthetics.fandom.com/f/p/44...53936/r/44...435363 (... (copied this text to AI and asked about mark fisher + stirner + hauntology...):)
- can relate to Promised Neverland/Lost Future in some aspects, and vice-versa, or dont have to.
- See, "90s Positivism" + "PNL" , which relate to this(...)
~~~
During 2023-2025, a trend emerged on TikTok where users created videos dramatizing what they perceived as a lack of critical thinking, literacy skills, and "normal" behavior among others, often in children and adolescents. These videos sometimes led to discussions about whether such behaviors/talks were being misinterpreted as symptoms of conditions like ADHD, potentially leading to overdiagnosis and over-medication. This trend sparked debate, with some users facing criticism or even being "canceled" for questioning the narratives presented in these videos. (Critics of these practices use term "therapy talk"; for inquiring to make notice of those.) It is meant as the whole "I'm depressed and manic and autistic and ADHD because TikTok said so"
type-of mental illness(-self/-label) that is widespread in the last decade. - It makes regular human behaviours into a negative trait to the point where it's like being a hypochondriac but for existing;
as a way to make you conform into a perfect cog rather than accept having a unique personality comes with unique quirks which could be labelled as "negative" by some people (likely those who don't see them as beneficial to you making profit for them)
<90s positivity>
Nostalgy-related
2010s Internet, , Acid Design, Americana, Anime New Moon, Arcadecore, , Belgian New Beat, Blingeecore, , Bubblegum Dance, Cassette Futurism, City Pop, , Cyber Stylin', Cybercore,
Cyberspace Webrooms, , User blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Merges - test, Edgy Meme, Funwaacore, Gachimuchi, , Grażynacore, Hauntology, , Holo, Internet Awesomesauce, , Kidcore, Krushclub, , , Liminal Space,
LOLcore, Mallsoft, MLG, Moe Swag, Motomami, Neo-Tribal, Nerdcore, Nostalgiacore, , Poolcore, Raver, Raygun Gothic, , , Rollerwave,
Scene, Seapunk, Sextrance, Silicon Dreams, Skeuomorphism, So Retro, Soviet Brutalism, Sovietwave, , Stickerbomb, Synthwave, Technoneko2000, , Teenpunk,
Tendercore, Trashy Raver, Traumacore, Triple Chic, Tropical Disco, UNIXcore, Vaporwave, , Weathercore, Wholesome Meme, , Xpiritualism, ; Milleniwave | Personal Aesthetics Wiki | Fandom ...
- <italic>these are now sure, or are viewed sarcastically or as part of general shared nostalgia</italic>
Category:Nostalgia/Nostalgic (80s - 2010s)
Gallery of comprehensive, subjective feelings
- https://sk.pinterest.com/venchie777/x2/?e_t=c0460a35e1c2469680398882e8577516
- https://sk.pinterest.com/cauzmank/all/?e_t=03854fe949f342c8a810ea255165374e
- https://sk.pinterest.com/nurazzahra03/gg/?e_t=770670f359984aa7a2153a64fcc4d962
- https://sk.pinterest.com/ColorMeToons/tech/?e_t=4361116961404835b4a7ceda082a9651
- https://sk.pinterest.com/abdullah_aloman/cyberpunk-aesthetic/?e_t=fa2e86a5b23e405b8c304a762d4f3220
- https://sk.pinterest.com/xX_basil_Xx/techcore/
- https://sk.pinterest.com/wxl0zxq/%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8C-%D1%87%D1%82%D0%BE-%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%B2-%D1%8D%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%85/?e_t=ad1690b303ff44c085529464a03649b7
- https://sk.pinterest.com/anarosanapitupulu2011/my-zone/?e_t=ad1690b303ff44c085529464a03649b7
- https://sk.pinterest.com/syamilsam7505/graphic-designs/?e_t=8426753c7aba44d1b356d7f56fdc47e3
- https://sk.pinterest.com/0kxfiubyjhcqeyt/gadgets/?e_t=a78ff870a49f4d22ac3db4982f679628
- https//sk.pinterest.com/2themax2127/sci-fi-art/?e_t=40b43abf3fa74d78b0cd773799ac214e
- https://sk.pinterest.com/saeedtq/monitor/?e_t=f159d985cdcd4fe8a25b29b5b6ed0ab2
- sk.pinterest.com/niloskovic41/10001s/?e_t=db9d96db18134c8cb7c905cb04952f43
- https://sk.pinterest.com/saradamemek08/arsitektur/?e_t=db9d96db18134c8cb7c905cb04952f43
- https://sk.pinterest.com/yoforever/compus/?e_t=0620303d0c674f0998645ead7bcfe72f
- https://sk.pinterest.com/coalmanmacfurso/starfield-mod-ideas/?e_t=f595b398ac7a4db4920fc8d29e1886af
- https://sk.pinterest.com/giampieroozzella/design-industriale/?e_t=44d36ab707354fac968d51dd48274ee0
- https://sk.pinterest.com/furcladbird/ad-can-u-dig-it/?e_t=c0a0865dcd1c468d9a41751750187fda
- https://sk.pinterest.com/a477777772000/%E8%B2%BC%E6%8B%8D/?e_t=32991988444b464a963a4557cb4b7e34
- https://sk.pinterest.com/syntheticspinterest/metatron-hermesmira/?e_t=d35fd77997a24e77a39c600bce0df22d
Mildly (Un)related - Citypop triada:
Despite the best years of City Pop being behind the genre, the spirit of it lives on as sometimes it'll be interspersed with Vaporwave (and a lot of Vaporwave artists will sample City Pop in their songs to invoke the imagery of sophisticated Japan on the rise in the 80's and 90's) and a lot of City Pop aesthetics will find themselves tied to the Lo-Fi aesthetic, thus ensuring City Pop's legacy in internet aesthetic history.
https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/City_Pop#InfluenceIn the 2010's, City Pop has seemingly found new life thanks to edits of it being featured in Vaporwave and Future Funk. Future Funk artists in particular, such as MACROSS 82-9, tend to love to sample old City Pop songs and transforming them into funky new tracks.
[Classic City Pop also gained popularity around this time (2019) due to the fact the YouTube algorithm at one point decided to pick (old-new) Mariya Takeuchi's "Plastic Love" to be the random video that turns up in everybody's feed to watch, which led to the song getting so popular that they decided to film a (new) music video for the song 35 years after its initial release!]
Sources
- "MLP and New Sincerity", Agora Road Forum
- Agora Road Forum
- Capitalist Realism - Wikipedia
- dot-com buble theme
- example: Flash FM - GTA Vice City · VasilyX
- GPT3.5 answers
- How the web lost its way – and its founding principles | Facebook | The Guardian
- Tumblr:
- Postcapitalist Desire: The Final Lectures by Mark Fisher review - New Statesman
- Related:
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- Vintage-Futurism themes
- What is the Web Revival? - Thoughts on Libre.Town
Related changes (copy, edited): https://personal-aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/%22Lost_footoorez%22
- ) or that feeling, "living in the future"
- ) or that feeling, "living in the future"
when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
- which reminds me of thread [sic] "MLP and New Sincerity" - about being sincere, "you", - all that *sweet* (or not) jazz...
when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
- which reminds me of thread [sic] "MLP and New Sincerity" - about being sincere, "you", - all that *sweet* (or not) jazz...
addendum:
#0 punks and emos of 2000s-2010s: basically "When we were young" fest, - safe for fact it was then "current thing": pic-rel + all those rock, punk, emo, - things playing on radio --- a psyop??? + 80s (music, not aesthetics) nostalgia occuring around that time... : music-rel (yeah, pretty much this playlist is "getting rich" from nostalgia - go, figure :/)
#1 youtube campaign "broadcoast yourself" - dawg man, i am so confussed how we could "get bought" over this - and believe come corporation! it sounds so - ironic; looking at it from lens of someone, living in *these* times "after fad"... - really believing(?) that commonmen can, thru sheer "influence" thru net, shape world... (what a joke!!!) [were we sold on *this feeling"!???]
#1b general naiivity over "corporations allowing us all this" - how was that not suspicious!! i wonder... (letting our guard and awareness so low) ~ but then, werent we (born 1999-and so; living with siblings (sister), of 8 year difference...)
#1.5 campaign of web providers (geocities, goDaddy or such), *basically* saying "be you"/"promote yourself"
(if you get me, that is; i am - getting nostalgic, over something i very fogly remember - in fact, now i get - why those "boomers" over here are getting nostalgic over living in socialism (when, they were kids... - so was i...)
--- WAS this all^ psy-op - contrarian messages, just "selling feeling", scham, make-believe dreams?
or is it that *there somewhere*, it was "all taken away from us" - well, as i see, that is very little probability, and it was just tactic to "get everyone on net" - those fxxx bastards!! (#me, being naiive...)
GPT3.5 answers:
see *line* ^above^ (talking (about) Vintage-Futurism)
what this^ post is roughly about
*both*
Hauntology is not just a symptom of the times, though:
it is itself haunted by a nostalgia for all our lost futures. "So what would it mean, then, to look for the future's remnants?" asks Owen Hatherley at the beginning of Militant Modernism, "Can we, should we, try and excavate utopia?" It might just be worth a shot. (https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2011/jun/17/hauntology-critical)
^/˘
example: Flash FM - GTA Vice City · VasilyX
Note regards to duplicate ideas: You might have noticed "90s Positivity" and among other(s); "Oldest/Vista/Alta Web" too - use similar/same aspects in their aesthetics. This is because all/many of these aethetics were "in" during similar time, and also; their similar look/aspects, - retro-actively speaking.
The Internet has created a seismic disruption to the balance of power in the media.
It is getting easier and easier to post your thoughts, photos, or videos. Yet the Wild West of the Web is being tamed. Small Internet service providers are being driven out of business, with corporations like Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, and AT&T dominating the market. Privacy, security, and the freedom to publish without fear of censorship are dwindling with each merger, with each effort by corporate lobbyists to further restrict the open Internet in favor of a narrow profit advantage.
Amy Goodman The Silenced Majority: Stories of Uprisings, Occupations, Resistance, and Hope with Denis Moynihan (2012)
The utopian vision of an open, reliable, and secure global network has not been achieved and is unlikely ever to be realized. Today, the internet is less free, more fragmented, and less secure.
- w:Council on Foreign Relations Confronting Reality in Cyberspace: Foreign Policy for a Fragmented Internet (Updated July 2022)
===The internet has changed...=== It's surprising how many people equate "the Internet" with "social media". It's like having access to 1,000,000x the Library of Alexandria every day, and only being interested in keeping up with what people are talking about in the lobby. The internet used to be:
a place for creative expression vastly customizable a space for people, by people
The internet has become:
- a marketplace (and we are the product) a one-sided social experience a capitalist hellscape
We, the people of the internet, have the power to transform the internet. The goal is not to go backwards, but to forge a new path forward.
[ I wrote an article detailing the topic in-depth.] -src: (and edited) https://sadgrl.online/cyberspace/internet-manifesto, https://web.archive.org/web/20230417093525/https://sadgrl.online/cyberspace/internet-manifesto
many such videos - and its consequences; click on first link in order; one such change can be noted in phrasing of this post - https://www.tumblr.com/nutzo0001/742217281137000448?source=embed#notes-742217281137000448 ...
idea: question is, if we, in the end , wouldnt end in the same path as those we hate, those rich bitches. tired to improve things, and to just see others suffer, because it is ever easier than to build anew, where everything , the "floor", is just past fame, glitter and zombieland that wont die
Most of us employ the Internet not to seek the best information, but rather to select information that confirms our prejudices.
Agora Road Forum
On Apathy:
Man. I don't want to shit on the current generation too much because it's been done to death, but you're gonna be hard-pressed to find a late zoomer/Gen-A who can use a hammer or any other tool properly. It's like there's no awareness of the world around them. We're talking missing 9/10 of the time with a hammer. Honestly, I think they're just tired of it all and don't care to learn anymore. I can't blame them. It feels like the whole world is falling apart, but never enough to bring an end to the stress that comes from it. Perhaps it's a demoralization sort of thing. A "_______ is going to happen so it won't matter anyway." sort of situation. Everyone is just tired and doesn't have the energy to care. - aHR0cHM6Ly9mb3J1bS5hZ29yYXJvYWQuY29tL2luZGV4LnBocD90aHJlYWRzL2RvZXMtdGhlLXpvb21lci1nZW5lcmF0aW9uLWhhdmUtemVyby10ZWNoLXNraWxscy41OTgwL3Bvc3QtODQxNjc= (pssst)
In true Pygmalion fashion, the oligarchy was able to “scientifically justify” their misanthropic view of global governance
by first breaking humanity’s kneecaps and then arguing that we were never meant to run. Take, for instance, the fact that the slashing of fusion power research begun under the Trilateral Commission-controlled Presidency of Jimmy Carter, which has continued unabated until the present day. ...
Schlesinger’s worldview as a priest of doom was defined in a 1960 book where he said: “Economics is the science of choice in a world of limited resources….
We have gone around the world spreading the ‘gospel of plenty’ raising the level of expectations … [but] in the nature of things, these rising expectations can never be satisfied…. We must in our strategic policy return to the days before the Industrial Revolution … [and] prepare to fight limited wars.” - https://canadianpatriot.org/2022/11/26/the-club-of-rome-and-the-rise-of-the-predictive-modelling-mafia/
[[User blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Utopistic Nostalgias#"2007 positivism[7] …" (-tba-) [16]]]
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end: - i was played on.
-- world of broken promises pre-2001~2008... --- "you need to be unique to stand out", so, next step in my mind was > "no way to be normie" >> i never knew what *they* (who?) meant - does computers screw us all in some way? or was is that we made ourselves... we build them... then, we dont know ourselves > you dont know things until it is too late? or > was it "The Plan"? use people as puppets > "NPC Naysayers"? - to make all sorts of crazy laws? power-trip? I dont want to - but, do i HAVE TO be bad, in any sense? -- Last time i had any confidence was in 2010-2015... but it was nothing much, it was just fuzzy feeling. there were bad things, yet, i felt fine... so, do i hate myself now? because - why? am i afraid to lose that? then, what happened!? is it some kind of trauma - or simply, disability to adapt? maybe thats why --- i miss 2008-2013 - times when i could be naiive. myself. no pretend, even if i wanted to... is it only now that i am afraid? or am i going insane and want to blame others for "making problems to sell cure"? - maybe i never was teenager, so with strict and boomers-like parents, it is like i have to make my dreams now - if i only wanted to - if i wasnt so emberassed... -- "teen-ages in stasis"? > peter pan syndrome? --- i dont want to live in my head - but what to do - - what i even want?? - am i afraid of success, of being "too strong", "bad" to others? there are like milion things...
AM I NORMAL?: could be, maybe i am just afraid to be
[[User blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Utopistic Nostalgias#future anticipation,[4] and musings: (personal) [and, dissatisfaction[5]/fall[6][7]]]]
<yap> shushing the opposition, "thinking few", coz "GoV KnOwS BeSt!" no place to share ideas
== no future (no innovation; coz "OnLy KaPiTaLiZm CaN BrInG VaRiAtIoN!!!") then, cooks go to their own places and you are CuRiOuS why Belief in gov. is the lowest ever!!! coz you dont want dialogue! you want truth, no matter what - your truth - even by price of being phony, the only one - there is no "bad opinion" if you ban, shadowban everyone else!?!! (dumbass!) <yeah, divide and conquir, old song...> </yap>
*duplicate above/below*
That's the beauty of the Web: You can roll around in a stranger's obsession without having to smell his or her house. You can amscray whenever you want without being rude. The site gets its "hit" and you know more about our species' diversity.
- Penn Jillette (October 15, 1997). "Free Celebrity Nudes!". Penn's Columns. Penn & Teller. Retrieved on 2008-06-29.
Despite the fact that the emergence of capitalist realism is tied to the birth of neoliberalism, Fisher is clear to state that capitalist realism and neoliberalism are separate entities
that simply reinforce each other. According to Fisher, capitalist realism has the potential to live past the demise of neoliberal capitalism, though Fisher posits that the opposite would not be true. Capitalist realism is inherently anti-utopian, as it holds that no matter the flaws or externalities, capitalism is the only possible means of operation. Neoliberalism conversely glorifies capitalism by portraying it as providing the means necessary to pursue and achieve near-utopian socioeconomic conditions. In this way, capitalist realism pacifies opposition to neoliberalism's overly positive projections while neoliberalism counteracts the despair and disillusionment central to capitalist realism with its utopian claims. - Capitalist Realism - Wikipedia
[[User blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Utopistic Nostalgias#Promised Neverland[1]]]; [[User blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Utopistic Nostalgias#"(90s/Spring) (Cyber/-) Positivism[12]"]]
dot-com bubble
The commercial exploitation of the web has become a growing facet of the world economy, particularly in the last several years.
In June 1999 NUA Internet Surveys estimated that 179 million people are connected to the Internet worldwide. A recent study by the University of Texas sponsored by Cisco Systems estimated that the "Internet Economy" generated $300 billion in revenue in the United States alone.
- Conrad Johnson and Brian Donnelly, “A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE WORLD WIDE WEB AND THE INTERNET “, Part 6, Columbia.edu, (Oct 24, 2003).
- https://64.media.tumblr.com/385ff45ca181cd5d77fbf897f1059601/3816eea163736a8b-9e/s400x600/babf64588bbef5f1bea13ab3042994fb44cce71c.jpg > https://www.tumblr.com/progressbar95 > Some classic Progressbar95 wallpapers from PB95-98. Progressbar95 is a nostalgic casual game about old computers available on Android, iOS and Steam
[1]: (answer)... / "While these developments did indeed empower individuals and challenge established norms, they also sparked legal and regulatory battles.
[1]: (answer)... / "While these developments did indeed empower individuals and challenge established norms, they also sparked legal and regulatory battles.
Copyright holders, for example, fought against the unauthorized sharing of their content, leading to legal actions against file-sharing platforms. Additionally, as the internet matured, large corporations entered the digital space, and the landscape became more commercialized. / Despite these challenges, the early optimism about the internet's disruptive potential remains a significant part of its history, and many of the ideas and technologies from that era continue to shape the digital world today."
- (^) Q&As regarding the Aesthetic(s):
Gallery
< Neoliberal Catastrophe
from Gallery on Solarpunk, [Brutalism], [Cyberpunk], [MCM] etc. /retro-futur./
On "Utopistic Nostalgias"
Little change in the theme.
Gallery 2: Tech; Archi
interior and accesiories >
Hauntology etc. >
flow of time
Alt. scene/style in the 70s-90s: (face)
Takes on Science > (Post, Meta-modernism)
Y2K... > (Wired, July 97)
(postmodern takes)
Future that denie(d/)s to be born
Hauntology, nostalgia, cancelled future, Neolib. catastrophe | Retrofuturism >
y2k, old web, frutiger aero... ^ >
Webcore, Frutiger Aero etc.
vaporware: (below)
Mika klein^
MS MSN
retro/futu/y2k 2 > (solpunk)
neobrut-futu-mcm
brut-sol-punk
MCM, Neofuturism ^>
Solarpunk/fanfare/cyber
Vaporwave
other
Mika Klein, cyberdelic, proto-CGI, Kitsch; Positivity >
<-- Acid... -->
Scene, 2000s... >
vaporwave-adjacent
Unnamed Aesthetics (y2k-rel.)
GVC >
< Y2K, retro, ???
GVC, neolibeal corpo-surreal. >
Futurism 2010, MCM, frutiger eco, solarpunk...
cyberpunk 90s | 90s (Gardener) >
< Futurism 2010 (under, left; library)
Album "Over w. BS" (hypermodernity, corecore, "waking up") (lost future / post-occupy nonsense world / boring dystopia | Agora Road's Macintosh Cafe ) >
(similar, too, in sense to Xavier the Renegade Angel)
Future that wasn't, after bust...
*coaxed into snafu* + meta-internet snark
Snarky | Wired, July 97 >
Delusions, narratives...
futures that once were
80s-90s-y2k magazine design
...
Predictions for future, in 1997 tech-zine Wired, /07
Cyberparadism? | Dark Timeline
...
Kid in fountain morality argument
Retrofuturism, Vapor, "80s"...
Airbrush, techpostivism, pixel, romanntic, absurd & cute...
...
...
...
boring dystopias, suspiciousness, disbeliefs (un-learning)... ^>
< ^ ˘ Postmodernism/Nostalgia
Changes not allowed | No room for errors (/cyn)
Neoliberal Catastrophe > ^, Technocrats; "Anti-Propaganda"
^ Utopistic Nostalgias in one image / Critical
once free...
postmodern snarkiness... (greentexts)
nostalgia / design
it hurts, right here
it is so over... | Nostalgia (Gen-Z)
post-reality
...
^ How we could let this slide?
...
...
Aesths. lost to time
(90s, 00s)
(90s, 00s)
...
webpunk graphics
digital nostalgia, art
(bubblegum bitch)
(bubblegum bitch)
... (2010s) ⬇️
Lost era oof Old Web etc.
Markets; Hauntology; Cybercap.; Crossroads of humanity?
Good, Bad, and wrong takes / society questioning their morality, takes > / societal critique; | vapor. | takes ...
free...
"also" stop #digital dictatorship ^ >
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snarky jokes >
...
...
...
"emo" dreams
...
+ alts, punks, mindful >
dsg...
future past
below: y2k aero
late capitalism memes >
aftergifted...
...
...
gov ploys; mistrust are typical in this aesth. / post-cap. surrealism
...
"jokes"
this column: design
vaporwave imagery
imagery nostalgia / funny, absurd takes / Gen Z
postmodernism, existencialism, critique <^>
