Hello All, new member here. I've been a lurker for a long time, but recent events have changed that. I have a 2008 690 SMC, and when I bought it, the full EVO 2 kit was installed. I elected to remove the performance cam, and replace with the stock one, a job which I did yesterday. Fast forward to this morning, when I go to load TuneECU on my new laptop, and discover that since the last time I had downloaded software/maps, KTM is no longer supported! Needless to say, I was pretty bummed/frustrated, as I now I have a bike that I can't load a map for. So with that said, I come here asking for help from this community: Is there a member that is willing/able to provide those maps? Specifically, I need the EVO 1 maps for a 2008 690 SMC. I poked around a bit looking for old forums that may have had maps attached to posts, but it seems that everyone always just defaulted to tuneecu.com (.net), as is best to get the latest files, of course. Any help or alternative options would be great. Thank you!
So bummed...Just noticed the same thing. No longer providing KTM maps....Looks like this just happened last month? So do we now have to purchase the power commander? Is there a way to get the Apro map?
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I just purchased an 08 Enduro and added a wings pipe, Rottweiler fueling dongle, SAS removal kit. Was hoping to keep stock airbox with the foam dual filter tubes that are in it (KTM or UNI with the spring coils?) but have had stalling issues in first gear. I've put in the smaller insert and ran the 15 minute reset and still will stall in first at stops at times? Just purchased the Evo 1 air filter cover from KTM Twins and have the ECU cable and looked up the ECU Tune site to find this out....sooo bummed.
Just to keep the thread updated, I had a good discussion with Nels at 2 Wheel Dynoworks in Kirkland, and he indicated that over the hundreds of 690's he has tuned, the exceedingly poor factory mapping has been the culprit for bad running/rideability in nearly every case. Now obviously, he has a financial interest in saying so, but I decided that for the pretty reasonable price, I'm going to spring for a custom tune, and see how that works out. I'll do my best to report back with results on both performance gains, as well as resolution of some of the rough running/stalling issues that were present previously. For the record, going into this with a fresh oil change, 8k miles, fresh valve adjustment (.004 all around), throttle calibration done, throttle voltages set at 0.72/0.72 starting, 0.52 with throttle plate pushed closed (per TuneECU). In other words, bike is in fresh good running shape, minus mapping. Stay tuned...
Whats the condition of your fuel filter in your tank? I highly suggest changing it if you've never done it. A grey sludge builds in the tank, from some coating breaking down in the gasoline, that clogs your filter and leads to a dead fuel pump, as it overheats trying to suck through the clogged filter. Clogged fuel flow will impact your dyno tuning and will cause the bike to idle erratic and not go 100%, feels like its holding back a bit. The sludge killed my 2010 690's fuel pump, and I went with the CA Cycleworks replacement. Also maybe look at an ultrasonic clean of your injector at a local race shop to ensure its misting to the best of its abilities
Thanks for the advice! I have read quite a bit about the tank issues. As of right now, I don't have any noticeable symptoms of a clogged fuel system, but it would be a good preventative maintenance opportunity regardless. Perhaps that'll get thrown onto the list for next weekend.
When tuning began, the bike was idling at a 16.7:1 AFR... incredibly lean. Pretty straightforward explanation for the idle issues. There were numerous other areas in the map that were lean as well; you can see this reflected in the bottom of the attached dyno graph, where there is a line representing pre- and post-AFR. The pretune AFR between 4k and 6k was hovering right around 14.7, which while not lean, probably isn't going to make full power, as the before and after confirms. Generally, the problem areas required as much as 15-20% more fuel to get to a target 12.8:1 AFR. Emissions aside, this was a great target for the bike; it loves a rich mixture. Idle was noticeably less smooth even at a 13.6:1 mix.
From here, Nels (tuner) indicated that the biggest current limiter on the bike was the dB insert on the Leo Vince pipe, which begins to truncate top end HP due to flow restriction. However, the noise compromise for a street-ridden moto makes it impractical to remove, and realistically, the bike has plenty of grunt at the moment... at least for me. These bikes are very sensitive to in and out flow restrictions, and if I removed the insert, a quick retune would be beneficial. Not planning to do this for now, but who knows what the future holds.
I would be happy to supply my new FI and EP files if folks wanted to take a look at what was done, but one statement (by Nels) that would give me some pause about just uploading this to your bike, even if mechanically similar, was that there was no definitive pattern to the map deficiencies in these bikes, and thus while this map may be superior to the stock EVO 1/2 maps for me, it may not be for you... Just the mandatory disclaimer.
Yep, this was with E10. There are a few stations in the area with ethanol-free, but I didn't get a chance to grab any prior to tuning. The gains in that middle band are great. As you said, right where we use them the most.
Hi Niko, I'd be happy to share, however I believe that the maps for your bike are going to be substantially different. Perhaps others here can confirm, but I remember seeing different files for the newer bikes when I was on TuneECU, before all the maps were removed. I would imagine there are other differences, but the 39cc of additional displacement your bike has probably makes a difference.
after some search I found a zip with all the maps tuneecu had for ktm 690 enduro/smc. I think the 2016 ABS model has the same engine configuration with all previous models. Is this correct? I am confused which map I should flash on bike, it has a wings exhaust and I ll upgrade the air filter as soon as I get it. Which maps are suitable for it?
I believe that all 690's post 2012 have a larger displacement motor (a true 690), up from 654 cc for the 08-11 model years. Once again, I am not 100% sure of this, but I believe there were no models of the "690 SMC" produced after 2011, because it became the "690 SMC-R". Because of that, the "All years" designation in the table above doesn't apply to you, because your bike isn't a "690 SMC". Does that make sense? You can see that the maps you boxed in red above are derived from a 2008 map, by looking at the numerical digits after "EU" in the file name. 152ee80cbc
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