The best role for a DPS Thoma. Due to Burgeon being a Transformative Reaction, EM and character level are the only things that affect damage. ATK and Talent Levels do not factor into Burgeon reactions and they cannot crit. It is also possible to run Hybrid Thoma for a stronger shield to combat Burgeon self-DMG and enemy attacks while still dealing a good amount of damage.
Although this section is primarily targeted towards Burgeon, the build recommendations are interchangeable with Overload as both are Transformative Reactions. As such, Overload teams will be included in the Team Compositions section along with Burgeon teams.
Burgeon is one of the more complex Elemental Reactions in Genshin to proc, as it requires 3 Elements in a specific order in order to proc reliably. However, once you get the hang of how Burgeon works, it’s pretty easy to constantly trigger!
Before you can proc Burgeon, you will need to create a Dendro Core, which is created by triggering the Bloom reaction with Dendro and Hydro. You can also proc this reaction by inflicting Hydro on a unit with the Quicken effect (Dendro and Electro), although you will only see this happen in Thoma teams if you are using an Electro unit in your flex spot.
Once you have your Dendro Core from your Bloom reaction, apply Pyro to the Core to proc Burgeon—an explosion of AoE Dendro DMG. This explosion multiplies the base Bloom DMG by 1.5x. These explosions will hit every enemy within their radius, making Burgeon particularly effective in AoE scenarios.
As mentioned before, Burgeon is a Transformative Reaction, meaning its damage will only take into account your Pyro unit’s (in this case, Thoma’s) EM and character level. Because of this, it is extremely important to level your Thoma to 90. There is about a 34% difference between the Burgeon damage from a Level 90 and a Level 80 character. Additionally, Burgeon DMG is affected by enemy RES, so shredding an enemy’s resistance does factor into your damage. As Burgeon deals AoE Dendro DMG, it is affected by Dendro RES Shred, such as that of the 4 Deepwood Memories set or Zhongli's Skill.
Although Burgeon does a lot of damage to the enemy, it will also inflict 5% of that damage onto your on-field character. However, this damage can be mitigated with a shield, which Thoma can provide. There are some other properties of Burgeon self-DMG that should be mentioned: Burgeon self-DMG is 5% of the Burgeon DMG with your character’s (not enemy) resistance taken into account, and this self-DMG does include any Burgeon reaction DMG Bonuses. Xingqiu’s damage reduction does not decrease Burgeon self-DMG.
Additionally, there may only be 2 instances of Burgeon DMG every 0.5 seconds, however, it is generally inconsequential as you will likely never have more than 2 Dendro Cores in the area except for your initial setup.
Arguably the best Polearm for Burgeon Thoma. Not only does it have an EM substat which directly contributes to Burgeon DMG, it also has a passive that helps Thoma’s ER requirements. This allows you to focus on other stats, rather than worrying about ER as much.
As mentioned in Shield Support, with Kitain, you will have to change your rotation slightly to Burst before Skill with Thoma. However, if you have high ping (180ms+) you are able to Skill before you Burst (if done so immediately) due to Kitain having a delay before draining your Energy.
The highest EM substat polearm in the game. The weapon passive does NOT add to the damage done by the Burgeon reaction. Additionally, this weapon will require you to build more ER to maintain Thoma’s Burst uptime.
This weapon allows Thoma to add some additional utility to his Burgeon build by dropping a leaf that gives ATK to your on-field character but does not affect Thoma’s Burgeon DMG. This weapon will also require a lot of ER to maintain Thoma’s Burst uptime.
If the other options are unavailable, this weapon can also be used in a Burgeon Thoma build, but it really only helps with ER requirements. Though Thoma doesn’t need CRIT Rate for a Burgeon build, this weapon will need you to build some to reliably proc the passive.
As mentioned before, you can build Burgeon Thoma in two main ways: DMG or Shield (or somewhere in between!). You can focus on pure EM for the most damage, or on HP% to have a strong shield and deal considerable damage. You can also use this Thoma Burgeon and Shield Calculator by vazellea to help you decide how much EM and HP to stack. Do not neglect your HP for EM if you do not have a healer on your team.
Pure Damage:
Sands: ER% or EM
Goblet: EM
Circlet: EM
Shield Hybrid:
Sands: ER% or HP%
Goblet: HP%
Circlet: HP%
Pure Damage: ER% >> EM > HP% > Flat HP
Shield Hybrid: ER% >> HP% > EM > Flat HP
Make sure to meet your ER requirements above all else.
Depending on the team comp you’ve decided to use with Burgeon Thoma, he can be built accordingly. In a team that lacks a healer or another shielder, Thoma can be built with more focus on his HP, so he can provide the team with survivability and still deal a considerable amount of damage. If you plan on running a healer or another shielder on your team, Thoma can be built with more focus on EM for higher Burgeon DMG at the cost of his shield strength. Below is a comparison of Burgeon DMG with a mix of different EM and HP main stats to showcase how you can still build HP while dishing out substantial damage.
ER/EM/EM (21768 HP, 722 EM)
ER/EM/HP (25557 HP, 575 EM)
ER/HP/HP (29346 HP, 428 EM)
27969
25099
21902
TL;DR:
This depends entirely on your team and how you’d personally like to run your Thoma. 350 EM with 4 Gilded (3 EM stacks) and 4 Deepwood is the approximate cut-off for 20k Burgeons which is a good starting point. If you’re running a full EM Thoma, you can shoot for more than that but 350 is great for Hybrid Thoma.
Burgeon Thoma has slightly different ER requirements from other DPS Thoma variations, as he will not be run with another Pyro unit. This often increases his ER needs. However, Kitain Cross Spear is a great choice for Burgeon Thoma, since it not only lowers his ER requirements but also provides EM with its substat. Additionally, most Burgeon Thoma teams will be run with at least one teammate that holds a Favonius weapon, which can also help lower ER demands.
These values are a baseline for you to go off of—you may need less or more depending on numerous factors.
Base: 220%+
Fav: 200%+
R1 Kitain: 215%+
R5 Kitain: 195%+
Base: 190%+
Fav: 170%+
R1 Kitain: 185%+
R5 Kitain: 165%+
Please note that different team members will require different ER thresholds so it is very important to double-check your requirements with the ER calculator.
Overall the best set for Burgeon Thoma but only slightly (~2-5%) better than 4-piece Gilded Dreams. Performs worse than 4-piece Gilded at lower EM (<300 EM).
This set gives 230 EM with the 4-piece and the 2-piece set effects, freeing up room for some ER substats. Additionally, it is much more resin efficient than Flower of Paradise Lost.
A nice flat 160 EM buff but generally not preferred. Only use this if your 4-piece Gilded Dreams isn’t available.
Crimson Witch has the ability to buff Burgeon DMG with its 4-piece set; however, there are better options that will increase Thoma’s damage output.
The two main options for the “other” option would be 2-piece EoSF to help reach Thoma’s ER requirements or 2 HP to help strengthen Thoma’s shield. Any other 2-piece (besides another 2 EM which is shown above) is virtually useless in Burgeon team comps.
Elemental Burst ≥ Elemental Skill
Normal Attacks are obsolete.
Although Talent Levels are not factored into Burgeon DMG, Thoma’s Burst and Skill are still important for a strong shield and, therefore, survivability.
It is also extremely important to level your Thoma to 90 so prioritize that over your Talent Levels.
Due to the nature of Burgeon requiring 3 Elements to proc, there is one main team composition for Burgeon Thoma. Further on, we go into depth on the options for every flex slot in this team. We will also include a list of noteworthy teams with rotations. There will also be Overload teams at the end which share the same artifacts and weapons as Burgeon Thoma.
Thoma
Dendro Flex
Hydro Flex
Flex
The best Dendro support for Burgeon. Nahida applies considerable off-field Dendro application without relying on her Burst. It is generally not recommended to Burst with Nahida at all unless you’re running an Electro character.
Weapons:
Off-field: A Thousand Floating Dreams, Sacrificial Fragments, Mappa Mare
On-field: A Thousand Floating Dreams, Kagura's Verity, Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds, Solar Pearl, The Widsith, Sacrificial Fragments, Mappa Mare
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood
As a support, Baizhu does many things that are incredibly important for a Thoma Burgeon team, mainly providing healing, an additional shield, and buffing Thoma’s Burgeon damage with his A4. As an on-field unit, Baizhu excels at these while also providing more Dendro application. While it is not as extensive as Nahida’s, it is able to keep up well with Thoma’s Burgeon procs to minimize Vaporizing and/or Burning.
Off-field, Baizhu falls a bit behind and simply acts as a healer and shielder with little Dendro application. If running off-field, there should be another Dendro unit on the team.
Weapons: Jadefall’s Splendor, A Thousand Floating Dreams, Favonius Codex, Prototype Amber
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood, 4 Instructors OR 2HP/2HP (If 2nd Dendro)
Their Burst has a decent duration to apply off-field Dendro application. The downside to DMC is that their Dendro application is limited to their Burst duration and they need a considerable amount of ER to Burst every rotation. Additionally, it can be tricky to infuse their Burst with Hydro/Electro and not explode it with Thoma.
Weapons: Favonius Sword, Sacrificial Sword, Sapwood Blade
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood, 4 Instructor (if 2nd Dendro)
A great unit for teams that would otherwise lack a healer, (i.e. Ayato/Tartaglia teams). Yaoyao does require on-field time for her Q to be active but provides a great amount of healing to mitigate enemy damage as well as Burgeon self-DMG. However, it is generally not recommended to use her as the only Dendro unit on the team due to her rather lackluster Dendro application.
Weapons: Favonius Lance, Black Tassel, Staff of Homa, Engulfing Lightning
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood, 4 Instructors (if 2nd Dendro)
A good unit when used off-field; Kiara provides great survivability with her shield which allows Thoma to run a more EM-focused build when in a team without a healer. Due to her lack of Dendro application from off-field, she is not recommended as the only Dendro unit on a Burgeon team.
Weapons: Favonius Sword, Key of Khaj-Nisut, Sacrificial Sword
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood, 4 Instructor (if 2nd Dendro)
Much like DMC, she provides off-field Dendro application with her Burst; however, her Burst has a lower cost and shorter uptime. Unlike DMC, Collei also has a considerable amount of Dendro application with her skill and performs well with more quickswap-oriented comps.
Weapons: Elegy for the End, Favonius Warbow
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood, 4 Instructor (if 2nd Dendro)
An interesting on-field option for a Burgeon team. Kaveh provides self-healing and interruption resistance however, his Skill and Burst may steal Dendro Core procs. With an emphasis on timing, you may be able to avoid stealing these Burgeons.
Additionally, Kaveh himself has extensive ER issues, making energy management in a Kaveh-Thoma Burgeon team much more of a problem. Kaveh is explicitly not recommended if you have him at C6.
Weapons: Skyward Pride, Makhaira Aquamarine, Mailed Flower, Favonius Greatsword, Rainslasher
Artifacts: 4 Deepwood
An on-field Dendro unit that dishes out considerable damage however, his personal damage in Burgeon teams is a downgrade from his Spread teams. Because of Alhaitham’s ample Dendro application, it is not recommended to run Alhaitham with another Dendro unit as you will trigger Burning often. This requires Alhaitham to run 4 Deepwood (if the other two units cannot) which negatively impacts his own personal damage.
In order to lessen the cons above, Alhaitham may be run with Fischl as a flex unit to negate Burning and allow him to Spread as well.
Weapons: Light of Foliar Incision, Mistsplitter Reforged, Primordial Jade Cutter, Iron Sting, Black Sword, Toukabou Shigure, any other standard Main DPS weapons
Artifacts: 4 Gilded, 4 Deepwood (if no other holders)
Provides a good amount of damage, Hydro application, and can apply Hydro while off-field. His Burst can help with infusing DMC’s Burst with Hydro. Additionally, his Skill allows for flexible rotations that include two Thoma Skills which, therefore, decreases Thoma’s ER requirements.
Weapon: Haran Geppaku Futsu, Primordial Jade Cutter, Amenoma Kageuchi, The Black Sword, any other standard Main DPS weapons
Artifacts: 4 HoD, 4 Gladiator’s Finale, 4 Echoes of An Offering
Can provide both on-field and off-field Hydro application with her Skill and Normal/Charged Attacks, while also dishing out additional damage during her Burst and with Ocean-Hued Clam. One of the easiest units to infuse DMC’s Burst with Hydro. Additionally, she provides ample healing, making it possible to run full EM Thoma with no worries.
Weapon: Everlasting Moonglow, Prototype Amber, Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers
Artifacts: 4 Ocean-Hued Clam, 2 TotM/2 Other
Has excellent on-field AoE Hydro application and damage. However, Childe relies on utilizing Charged Shots when out of Melee Stance to maintain Hydro application, and otherwise has periods without any application. When used with DMC, C2+ Thoma is recommended to Vape his Burst as it allows Thoma to burst first in the rotation with his longer Burst uptime.
Weapon: Any 5* CRIT Bow, but there are many great 4* options.
Artifacts: 4 HoD, 2 HoD/2 ATK, 2 ATK/2 ATK
Please note that 2 NO/2 WT is not recommended with Burgeon as Tartaglia does not utilize any Burst buffs within these teams.
Can apply Hydro while off-field, provide damage, and give damage reduction. His Hydro application is mostly single-target, which conflicts with Burgeon’s multi-target nature.
Weapon: Favonius Sword, Sacrificial Sword
Artifacts: 4 EoSF, 2 HoD/2 NO
Can apply Hydro off-field while contributing to team damage. Although she can buff the on-field character’s damage, the buff is generally not used in Burgeon team comps. As with Xingqiu, her Hydro application is mostly single-target.
Weapon: Aqua Simulacra, Favonius Warbow, Elegy for the End
Artifacts: 4 EoSF, 2 HoD/2 NO
Can apply Hydro both on-field and off-field but may require “hugging” your enemy for optimal Hydro application. Additionally, her healing is helpful for keeping the team alive.
Weapon: Everlasting Moonglow, Prototype Amber, Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers
Artifacts: 4 Ocean-Hued Clam, 2 TotM/2 Other
She applies Hydro. That’s it. The DMG Bonus from her Burst does not increase Burgeon DMG.
Weapon: Skyward Atlas, Favonius Codex
Artifacts: 4 EoSF, 2 HoD/2 NO, 4 NO, 4 Instructor
Fundamentally, Burgeon teams are a 3-person team: a Pyro unit, a Hydro unit, and a Dendro unit. The flex slot in Burgeon teams primarily acts as a unit to deal off-field damage that does not affect Dendro Cores significantly OR that increases the number of Dendro Cores produced. You will not want to focus on purely buffing your Thoma’s EM – an off-field DPS provides much more damage to the team.
Please take note that certain flex characters shine well in specific teams so the rankings here are generalized. See the notable team section for the most optimal flex utilization.
Generally, a 2nd Dendro character can produce more Dendro Cores and enables the added bonus of 100 EM from Dendro Resonance. Your primary Dendro unit should be running 4 Deepwood, while your secondary unit can run 4 Instructor or 2 Deepwood/2 Other to improve their personal damage.
An off-field DPS that dishes out significant single-target damage while applying a Quicken (Or Electro-Charged to Quicken in the case of DMC) aura to extend Dendro application and create more Dendro Cores. Fischl is preferred over other Electro units as Oz targets Dendro Cores last.
It should be noted that she may steal Burgeons due to her A4 or proc Overload which can launch enemies out of your range but this is generally inconsequential and does not happen often.
Weapons: Elegy for the End, Polar Star, Aqua Simulacra, Skyward Harp, Thundering Pulse, The Stringles
Artifacts: 2 Thundering Fury/2 ATK
A great option for steady off-field damage. Generally, even though his Burst does increase the party’s EM, you do not want to Burst with him as it is an overall team damage decrease.
Weapons: Cinnabar Spindle, Harbinger of Dawn
Artifacts: 4 Husk of Opulent Dreams
With a Cryo unit, you are able to “Fridge” with Dendro. This is a simultaneous aura Reaction involving Freeze and Bloom that takes advantage of the fact that Hydro will react with Cryo before it reacts with Dendro, allowing you to use the Freeze Reaction to reduce the amount of Hydro that consumes Dendro when triggering Bloom. This essentially makes the Dendro aura stay longer on an enemy, allowing for more Dendro Cores to be generated. Additionally, your opponent will be Frozen for a period of time, allowing you to forgo a healer with more confidence.
Notable Units (Not ranked): Ganyu, Rosaria, Kaeya, Diona, Layla
A great option for grouping enemies and the Dendro Cores created. Kazuha can also provide a DMG% buff to the Hydro character of choice when the Element is Swirled.
Weapons: Freedom-Sworn, Favonius Sword, Sacrificial Sword, Iron Sting
Artifacts: 4 VV, 4 Instructor
Can provide grouping and a very nice EM boost to Thoma, allowing him to deal more Burgeon DMG at the cost of fewer Burgeons overall when on-field.
Weapon: Sacrificial Fragments, Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers
Artifacts: 4 VV, 4 Instructor
When running either Childe or Ayato, this position is usually open to a healer like Kokomi or Barbara, if wanting to run a full EM Thoma. You can also go for either Yelan or Xingqiu when running an on-field Hydro unit to lessen ER requirements. Yelan is also a nice option in this role with an on-field Nahida.
Produces a very reliable shield and gives -20% RES Shred, buffing Thoma’s Burgeon DMG, but provides no damage himself.
Weapons: Favonius Lance, Staff of Homa, Black Tassel
Artifacts: 4 TotM, 4 Instructor, 4 Deepwood
Can be run in a Burgeon team to provide healing along with some Burst damage and buffing capabilities.
Weapons: Favonius Sword, Sacrificial Sword, Festering Desire
Artifacts: 4 VV, 4 Instructor
Similar to Jean but can perform better in multi-target secnarios.
Weapons: Favonius Greatsword
Artifact: 4 VV, 4 NO, 4 Instructor
Mainly acts as a grouper for a Burgeon team and can buff your on-field Hydro unit by Swirling Hydro with 4 VV. Venti can raise Dendro Cores above Thoma’s Fiery Collapses’ range, preventing him from triggering Burgeon.
Weapons: Elegy for the End, The Stringless, Favonius Warbow
Artifacts: 4 VV
Can be used as an on-field DPS when having an off-field Hydro applier. Heizou can group enemies, deal good damage, and give EM to the entire team.
Weapons: Skyward Atlas, Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds, Memory of Dust, The Widsith, Solar Pearl
Artifacts: 4 VV
These teams will be separated by the on-field unit. These rotations are often the same regardless of the unit used in the flex slot.
This is not an exhaustive list of teams, but merely a list of some notable sample comps.
Baizhu
Healer/Enabler/Sheilder
Thoma
Off-Field DPS
Xingqiu
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Yelan
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
An on-field Baizhu team where Thoma is able to comfortably run full EM. The one major downfall to this team would be the ER requirements, however, this can be mitigated with Baizhu running Favonis Codex (which he can proc up to 3 times a rotation) along with Xingqiu and Yelan running Favonius/Sacrificial weapons. The only downside to the Favonix Codex approach with Baizhu is a decrease in healing as you will have to focus on CRIT Rate, but it is usually negligible.
Rotations
With DMC
Ayato Q > DMC E Q > Fischl Q or E > Thoma Q E > Ayato E N15 > DMC E N1 > Fischl Q or E N1 > Thoma E > Ayato E N15
With Nahida
Nahida hE Q > Ayato Q > Thoma QE N1 > Fischl E > Ayato E N15 > Nahida hE > Thoma E N1 > Fischl Q > Ayato E N15
Ayato-Fischl
Ayato
Enabler/On-Field DPS
Thoma
Off-Field DPS/Shielder
Nahida/DMC
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Fischl
Off-Field DPS
This team allows for a relativley easily infusible DMC Burst within Ayato’s Burst. Due to the lack of a healer in this team, Thoma will be run with a more HP-focused build. For more info on how much a Thoma built with full HP can do with Burgeon, check the “HP or EM?” section. If you run Nahida, you will want her to Burst in this team due to Skill gaining more procs when there is an Electro character in the team.
Rotations
With DMC
Ayato Q > DMC E Q > Fischl Q or E > Thoma Q E > Ayato E N15 > DMC E N1 > Fischl Q or E N1 > Thoma E > Ayato E N15
With Nahida
Nahida hE Q > Ayato Q > Thoma QE N1 > Fischl E > Ayato E N15 > Nahida hE > Thoma E N1 > Fischl Q > Ayato E N15
Ayato-Yaoyao/Kiara
Ayato
Enabler/On-Field DPS
Thoma
Off-Field DPS/Shielder
DMC
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Yaoyao/Kirara
Healer/Shielder/Enabler
Compared to the Fischl teams above, Yaoyao and Kirara allow Thoma to run a full EM build without worrying about Burgeon self-DMG or having to dodge every single enemy hit. With two Dendro characters, DMC is a better option here than Nahida to avoid Burning. Yaoyao and Kirara’s burst are not required for this team but can be used as needed.
Rotation
Ayato Q > DMC E Q > Yaoyao/Kirara tE > Thoma Q E > Ayato E N15 > DMC E N1 > Yaoyao/Kirara tE > Thoma E > Ayato E N15
Kokomi
Enabler/On-Field DPS/Healer
Thoma
Off-Field DPS
Nahida/DMC
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Flex
Enabler/Buffer/Off-Field DPS
A team where full EM Thoma is completely acceptable. Kokomi acts as the on-field unit within this team and also as a healer to sustain Burgeon self-DMG as well as damage from external sources.
This team’s flex slot is extremely versatile. Some of the most viable options are a 2nd Dendro unit, Fischl, Albedo, and a Cryo unit for Fridge. A 2nd Dendro unit will likely be the best option, but the others don’t fall too far behind. Xingqiu and Yelan are also possible options here to lower Kokomi’s ER requirements when used with DMC, but generally produce less Dendro Cores as Dendro application is generally the limiting factor when it comes to Dendro Core production. Xingqiu and Yelan are not recommended with Nahida due to how Nahida’s Skill triggers on reaction.
Rotation
Baizhu E Q > XQ E Q (E) > Thoma Q E > Yelan hE Q > Baizhu E N3 until E is off CD
Tartaglia
Enabler/On-Field DPS
Thoma
Off-Field DPS/Shielder
Nahida/DMC
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Flex
Enabler/Buffer/Off-Field DPS
Thoma’s lengthy off-field Pyro application combined with Childe’s consistent and flexible on-field Hydro application creates a powerful multi-target oriented team. Thoma’s C2 is often recommended here, as the longer Burst duration allows using Thoma before Childe to establish a Pyro aura and Vaporize Childe’s Ranged Burst.
Thoma can be built either with full EM or HP with EM substats, depending on who the other units are. Diona is a strong option here, as Cryo application enables higher Dendro Core generation and she is one of the few units who can comfortably allow Thoma to build full EM in a Childe Burgeon team.
Rotations
It is highly recommended to use C2+ Thoma when using DMC and Childe.
When using DMC in these teams, turn around and place DMC’s Burst behind you and away from the Burning enemies, so as to not transform the Burst with Pyro. If the Burst comes in contact with Pyro, you must reset. Childe’s ranged Burst (rQ) can hit behind him and transform the Burst.
With Diona
Thoma Q E > DMC E Q > Childe rQ > Diona hE N1 Q > Childe E (11s melee) > Thoma E > DMC E (catch particles) > Diona tE > Childe CS * 2 > DMC E (catch particles) > Diona tE > Childe CS
With Rosaria
Thoma Q E > DMC E Q > Childe rQ > Rosaria E Q > Childe E (11s melee) > Thoma E > DMC E (catch particles) > Rosaria E > Childe CS * 2 > DMC E (catch particles) > Rosaria E > Childe CS
With Kazuha
Nahida hE > Thoma Q E > Childe rQ E (11s melee) > Nahida tE or hE > Thoma E > Kazuha tE Q > Childe CS * 3 > Kazuha tE
Kazuha’s Burst is used in the downtime, in order to trigger more Blooms with Childe’s Charged Shots.
Nahida
Enabler/On-Field DPS
Thoma
Off-Field DPS/Shielder
Xingqiu
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Yelan/Fischl
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Nahida will want to mainly be on-field in these types of teams, though it’s okay to have other characters on-field due to this team's flexibility. Thoma can have a more HP-focused build so he can protect the team while still contributing considerable damage with the Burgeon reaction. Nahida will want to use her Burst in these teams, since she can take advantage of the extra EM gained from her A1 and/or the Electro buff gained from Burst if running Fischl.
Rotations
With Fischl:
Nahida hE Q > Xingqiu Q E > Thoma Q E > Fischl E > Nahida NA’s and E if needed
With Yelan:
Nahida hE Q > Xingqiu Q E > Thoma Q E > Yelan E Q > Nahida NA’s and E if needed
Sucrose
On-Field DPS/Buffer
Thoma
Off-Field DPS/Shielder
Xingqiu/Yelan
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
Nahida/DMC
Enabler/Off-Field DPS
A Thoma Burgeon team with Sucrose as the on-field Normal Attacker (driver). Similar to Taser Sucrose teams but slightly more complex due to the process of triggering Burgeon. C6 Sucrose is able to buff Xingqiu/Yelan’s off-field damage by absorbing Hydro in her Burst. Please note you will need to spread out Sucrose’s Skill uses to make sure her A4 buff has 100% uptime during Thoma’s Burst. Sucrose may also be replaced with Heizou for more focus on personal damage instead of buffing.
Rotations
With DMC:
Sucrose Q > XQ/Yelan (E) Q E > DMC E Q > Thoma E Q > Sucrose E N3 for DMC Q duration (E as needed)
With Nahida:
Sucrose Q > XQ/Yelan (E) Q E > Nahida hE > Thoma E Q > Sucrose E N3 for Thoma Q duration (E as needed)
A majority of Overload Thoma teams involve Raiden as shown below, but there is the possibility for other options with Beidou, though they will not be covered fully in-depth within this guide.
Please note that Overload-focused teams face more drawbacks compared to Burgeon teams as Overload 1) has a 2x reaction multiplier compared to Burgeon’s 3x, 2) causes enemies to get knocked back which can cause stamina problems, and 3) has lackluster scaling in AoE compared to Burgeon.
Raiden
On-Field DPS
Thoma
Off-Field DPS/Shielder
Anemo Flex
Buffer
Flex
Enabler/Off-Field DPS/Buffer
This team is mainly an Overload-focused team where Thoma will be triggering Overload during Raiden’s Burst, while the Anemo flex unit acts as a Viridescent Venerer holder and an EM Buffer (Sucrose) or DMG% buffer (Kazuha). The flex slot can be someone used to buff Raiden’s damage such as Kujou Sara or Bennett.
Rotations
With Sucrose and Bennett:
The following rotation is for Sucrose and Bennett filling the flex spots, but it can be modified as needed for other team members to maximize Raiden’s Resolve.
Raiden E > Thoma E Q > Sucrose N1 E Q > Bennett E Q > Raiden Q N3C for Q Duration
Thoma
Off-Field DPS
Electro Flex
DPS
Hydro Flex
DPS
Anemo Flex
Enabler/Buffer
There are three main variations of this team: Raiden—Xingqiu—Thoma, Taser Thoma, and Ayato—Thoma. With all of these variations, you can build your Thoma with the typical EM build or with the Off-Field Pyro DPS Thoma build.
Raiden—Xingqiu
A variation of the popular Raiden team consisting of Thoma in the place of Xiangling. The Anemo slot in this team can be filled by Sucrose, Kazuha, or even Bennett to buff Raiden’s on-field damage.
Rotations
With Bennett:
Raiden E > XQ E Q E > Thoma E Q > Bennett E Q > Raiden Q
Taser Thoma
A Taser-like Thoma team. The Anemo slot may be filled by either Sucrose or Heizou, although Sucrose generally provides more damage. Fischl is also replaceable in this team by Kuki if you need a dedicated healer, or possibly Beidou (although generally not recommended as she will need lots of ER) but overall, Fischl is the best option.
Rotations
XQ (E) Q E > Fischl E > Thoma E Q > Anemo N5 (10 sec- Use Q as needed and E when off cooldown/max Declension stacks)
If using Heizou, use N1C as your on-field combo.
Ayato—Thoma
Mainly a Taser team where Thoma can provide a shield and some damage through the Overload reaction. Anemo options may be Sucrose/Kazuha. Electro option would mainly be Fischl, but Raiden can be considered.
Rotations
Ayato Q > Fischl Q > Kazuha E Q > Thoma Q E > Ayato E N15 > Fischl E > Kazuha tE > Thoma E > Ayato E N15