Our humble adventurers discover that if there’s no one joke that perfectly describes your life, maybe your life is the joke. We discuss Annie Hall! (IMDB)

Episode Breakdown:

• In this episode’s Tavern Talk segment, we’re discussing musical episodes of TV shows (00:01:52).

• We then head into the main discussion, which is all about Woody Allen’s Annie Hall - we start by introducing the movie (00:19:24).

• We go over our general feelings toward the movie (00:21:33).

• We get into what we thought was the meaning of the movie (00:28:13).

• Ynon brings up two aspects of the movie that seem minor but feel important to him (00:37:34).

• We talk about the character of Annie (00:40:25).

• We mention the fact that Woody Allen and Diane Keaton used to date before they made the movie (00:47:35).

• We talk about a few storytelling techniques used throughout the movie (00:50:03).

• We summarize our feelings towards the movie (01:01:24).

• We introduce the subject of our next episode - Jurassic Park! (IMDB) (01:04:04).

• Stick around and listen to a promo of the Secret Bunker Podcast (@secretbunkerpod) (01:08:09).

Links to stuff we’ve mentioned in the episode:

• Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Once More, with Feeling (IMDB).

• That ‘70s Show - That ‘70s Musical (IMDB).

• Xena: Warrior Princess - The Bitter Suite (Wikipedia)

• Neil Patrick Harris - Bigger - 2013 Tony Awards Ceremony (YouTube).

• Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog (IMDB).

• How I Met Your Mother - Slap Bet (IMDB).

• Scrubs - My Musical (IMDB).

• Steven Universe - Mr. Greg (IMDB).

• South Park - Mr. Hankey’s Christmas Classics (IMDB).

The episode was recorded on May 29th, and originally released on June 28th, 2020.

Episode Transcript

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there's an old joke why did the yogurt

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go to the art exhibition because it was

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cultured well that's essentially how I

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feel about life I always feel like no

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matter what I do I'll never be as

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cultured as a yogurt even though I am a

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bit cheesy

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the other important joke for me is one

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that I feel hits pretty close to home

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like I connect with it on a personal

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level it goes like this I'm paraphrasing

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how many podcast hosts does it take to

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screw in a lightbulb

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one lets a key joke of my adult life in

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terms of my relationships with women

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another joke that I really feel relevant

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is why our elevator jokes so good

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because they work in so many levels do

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you hear the one about the guy who told

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his doctor that he broke his hands in

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two places his doctor told him to stop

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going to those places knock knock who's

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there Candice Candice who can this door

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open or am I stuck out here

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a rabbi walks into a bar with a paradise

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welcome to the culture quest podcast

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today in seven talk we'll be talking

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about our favorite musical episodes from

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TV shows and then in the main discussion

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will break down Annie Hall a film by

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Woody Allen and finally I will introduce

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the topic of next episode which is

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Jurassic Park a film by Steven Spielberg

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[Music]

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hello and welcome to the culture quest

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we are but humble adventures and now

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we're all okay with being in a club that

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would have us as members with me as

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always our Peter hello and by oh I mean

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hello that was that was a weak try at

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whatever yeah a weak try is better than

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no try at all and I am in on thank you

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the listeners at home for taking part in

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our noble quest today we'll be

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discussing Woody Allen's Annie Hall but

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before we do that let's do some tavern

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talk we don't need no jingles we got our

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sound boxers in today's Taryn talk we're

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talking about our favorite musical

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episodes from TV shows as you may know a

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lot of TV shows have these kind of

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episode it's usually either an episode

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with a story that is kind of consistent

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with the rest of the show or it might be

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a more of a standalone kind of story

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but either way it's an episode that has

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anything from a few songs to nothing but

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songs in it here's a quick list of

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examples I know the Buffy the Vampire

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Slayer had a musical episode in their

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sixth season because the people I hang

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around with keep mentioning it I know

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that the semanas show had one in their

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fourth season which I really loved it

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had a lot of really good songs from the

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70s and I haven't seen it but I've seen

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something on Google about a Xena

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the princess warrior musical episode I

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didn't know about that yeah yeah in my

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early teenage I'm not sure it is 10 11 a

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teenage no it's not even on the cusp

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yeah so I think around those ages I

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watched both Xena and Hercules ventures

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of Hercules and yeah I remember that I

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think there was also a musical episode

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in Hercules I know there was kind of a

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crossover episode but I didn't know they

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had musical episodes

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well they at least I think they probably

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did everything that is possible there's

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actually one episode in Hercules I

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remember

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where they are in the future and there

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are like normal people and and like

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Kevin Sorbo and you know all like

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they're the characters but you find out

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at the end of the episode that Kevin

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servo is actually Hercules is given like

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immortal life and it's just like seeing

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throughout history and decided to play

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himself in the TV series yeah I thought

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I watch a lot of that show Bow Wow it

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turns out I didn't but anyway what are

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your favorite musical episodes now Peter

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do you wanna start

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sure well my favorite episodes are never

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the musical episodes usually you don't

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like them I hate musical episode there's

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been times where I've enjoyed it and

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usually it's because they're just making

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fun of musical episodes but yeah I don't

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know there's just something a bit corny

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about it and especially when it doesn't

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fit with the broader show like I know

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this wasn't a good show anyway but the

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flash did like a musical episode which

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is like meant to be like a superhero

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crime-fighting sort of sci-fi sort of

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show and then they did like a legit

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music episode and I was just like what

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what is going on so overall not a fan

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but my favorite one is actually a good

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one I think

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but it's not it's not a musical the

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whole way through it's more towards the

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end but this is episode of How I Met

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Your Mother which does have quite a bit

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of music in the show is that is the

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musical episode is the one with where he

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sings about his suits oh that one's a

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good one

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that's episode 100 actually and really

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yeah that one's probably like the most

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popular sort of song maybe that they've

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done and that one really shows how good

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barney is or Neil Patrick Harris is at

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singing because he's crazy telling he's

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legitimately done vocal training and

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he's legitimately good performer and

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singer but then say alyson hannigan

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lily shoes like petrified of singing on

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this like honey lamb beside yeah and so

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they gave her a line but it was like

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one small sort of line to say so

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everyone else said no but no that was a

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good one as well that would be my

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runner-up but my favorite one is just

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slap bet which slap bet is sort of like

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what most power male fans think is the

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pinnacle of the whole series but

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basically Robin has this secret which is

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revealed at the end of the episode

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because it all starts because she

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doesn't want to go to the mall so

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everyone's saying hey let's go to the

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mall and then Robins like no and then

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obviously Barney is the one that wants

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to find out the most because if anyone

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has a secret Barney wants to find out

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and he signs up for a slap bet hence the

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name at the episode with Marshall and

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Marshall said it's because she was

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married in a different country and she

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was married and a mall and she doesn't

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want to go back to a mall and Barney

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says it's because she did adult videos

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and basically it gets to the end and

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it's revealed that she was once a pop

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star in Canada when she was like young a

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sort of late teens I guess you could say

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and it's actually not a bad song like

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well I mean it's a bad song because yeah

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in Canada it's supposed to be but it's

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also like well-made you know what I mean

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like it's that they obviously spent a

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bit of time on it say and then they play

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it a lot and it also comes comes up

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later with like sort of sequels to the

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to this like this there's an episode I

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think it's called sand castles in the

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sand where she turns out she's done like

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more songs and yeah so that would be my

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favorite because it's integrated into

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the storyline well it's based around a

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song but it's not like it doesn't feel

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out of place yeah I guess I guess I know

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what you mean like a musical episode can

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be like a distraction like it can really

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go off the the road and like just

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something completely different from the

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rest of the episodes in this season yeah

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so like sticking with my sort of stance

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on music episodes this is like such a

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good episode but it's also a musical

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episodes

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that's sort of where where I draw my

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line in the sand you can say if you want

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this is something amazing do a youtube

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search of Neil Patrick Harris in' and

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the Tony Awards show anything yeah well

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he got a couple but there's one that is

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just amazing I think I watched it like

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40 times just out of this world

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yeah just YouTube bigger the whole

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concept of of the entire song is just to

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do it bigger and it starts very small

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and just exploding this carnival of

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musicals and just amazing I'll link to

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it in the show notes yeah well if we're

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talking about Neil Patrick Harris before

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we move on to yours barrio I have to ask

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if you guys watched dr. Horrible's

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sing-along blog no I have not

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of course of course it's great it's

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great yeah

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it's great it's like this way I remember

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in 2008 I think there was this writer

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guild shut down or whatever it was a

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protest I think it was and just we

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didn't just he wrote this three episodes

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I think all I know it's like 45 minutes

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youtube show called dr. Horrible's

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sing-along blog it stars Neil Patrick

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Harris as dr. horrible and he's arc

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nemesis is Nathan Fillion from Firefly

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and there's a bunch of other kind of

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familiar faces there and it's like 45

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minutes it's really cute it's not the

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production isn't great because like I

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don't think they had like this amazing

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budget or anything but really good songs

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really sad story I think it's one of the

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best things that I've seen yeah I agree

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it's awesome and I think like part of it

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being so awesome is that you can feel

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it's low budget and small that's part of

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its charm

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yeah I agree I'll put that in the show

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notes as well but Peter you have to see

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this what about you pay barrio what's

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your favorite musical episode you can't

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even tell us apart

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I was kinda on the fence with to first

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the first one that came into mind is

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scrubs music musical episode which is

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great

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yeah angry especially if you fall

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the whole serious it's very it

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complements like the different

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characters from a hospital with

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corrupted management there's this

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cynical knightliest doctor dr. Cox which

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is the mentor of JD which is the the

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protagonist I guess they can also like

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this do it there and and JD got this

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really disturbingly close best friend

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and they also have a song called guys

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love and which is totally a platonic of

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course and and and just great great

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combination of no good music and and

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funny really funny but yeah I love that

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episode and it's kind of one of the only

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musical episodes that has like a good

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excuse of being a musical episode

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because like they have this patient who

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is something wrong with her head and

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they don't know what it is but

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everything she hears is people singing

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so everyone around her as long as you're

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in the same room as Harry you're singing

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a song so it's a good excuse to having a

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musical appear and I and I remember they

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keep testing her and at the end they

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find a way I think to fix her and and

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then suddenly everything stops being

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musical and it's it's very sad kind of

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like it was sad tone yeah yeah you're

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right I remember that yeah the other one

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is there's actually a cartoon that I got

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into a couple of years ago I think

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called Steven universe which starts very

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small and naive and and kind of grows

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into this really interesting plot and

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you know it's it's a TV show but it got

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like very interesting motives especially

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regarding a gender role which I think

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has a very very interesting message and

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the episodes are very short I think

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they're between 10 and 15 minutes

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something like that mmm and there's a

0:12:07.750,0:12:11.620

musical episode which is you know like

0:12:10.030,0:12:12.730

when you have episodes of 10-15 minutes

0:12:11.620,0:12:15.760

it's kind of hard to squeeze everything

0:12:12.730,0:12:18.310

in so the songs are really short but

0:12:15.760,0:12:20.800

they got a really great one very

0:12:18.310,0:12:22.870

touching you know most not really funny

0:12:20.800,0:12:24.790

songs but they got a couple of things

0:12:22.870,0:12:26.560

that that really sticks with you I still

0:12:24.790,0:12:29.860

hear the soundtrack of the

0:12:26.560,0:12:31.750

so one of the creators of that show well

0:12:29.860,0:12:34.210

decorator of that show is also the one

0:12:31.750,0:12:36.400

who's writing the the musical bits her

0:12:34.210,0:12:38.820

name is Rebecca sugar maybe you heard of

0:12:36.400,0:12:42.220

her she is very talented mainly in

0:12:38.820,0:12:44.740

working in Cartoon Network but got

0:12:42.220,0:12:45.610

really great stuff going on there in

0:12:44.740,0:12:47.770

both of them

0:12:45.610,0:12:50.440

I wouldn't recommend just go and see the

0:12:47.770,0:12:52.960

musical episode you kinda have to commit

0:12:50.440,0:12:56.140

to that TV show and then you appreciate

0:12:52.960,0:12:59.380

the musical episode much more I think

0:12:56.140,0:13:01.300

watch scrubs actually that one seems

0:12:59.380,0:13:03.010

like a show you that I would like so

0:13:01.300,0:13:05.800

okay so that one day yeah yeah it's

0:13:03.010,0:13:07.630

really good I really like it and I plan

0:13:05.800,0:13:09.940

to watch Steven universe we watched the

0:13:07.630,0:13:12.670

movie together and I didn't expect it to

0:13:09.940,0:13:15.880

be that good so I want to watch the show

0:13:12.670,0:13:19.720

as well yeah my favorite musical episode

0:13:15.880,0:13:22.300

is the one from South Park in the season

0:13:19.720,0:13:24.940

3 there's an episode called mr. Hankey's

0:13:22.300,0:13:27.190

Christmas classics and it doesn't

0:13:24.940,0:13:28.779

actually have a plot as an episode it's

0:13:27.190,0:13:30.910

basically a collection of Christmas

0:13:28.779,0:13:33.520

songs sung by the South Park characters

0:13:30.910,0:13:35.980

and there's quite a few songs I think

0:13:33.520,0:13:38.589

there's like six or seven or maybe even

0:13:35.980,0:13:40.270

eight songs and some of them feature you

0:13:38.589,0:13:42.670

know like a group of characters a bunch

0:13:40.270,0:13:45.190

of characters so all you know you get to

0:13:42.670,0:13:47.440

see a lot of relatively minor characters

0:13:45.190,0:13:50.170

included which is a lot of fun

0:13:47.440,0:13:52.839

my favorite song in this episode is

0:13:50.170,0:13:54.820

there's one where Jesus and Santa

0:13:52.839,0:13:57.100

perform songs that were kind of rhythm

0:13:54.820,0:13:59.440

about them throughout the years in this

0:13:57.100,0:14:02.470

jazz club and it's really really fun

0:13:59.440,0:14:05.170

really well done and its own South

0:14:02.470,0:14:07.150

Park's third season like long before

0:14:05.170,0:14:09.670

they had a huge production or anything

0:14:07.150,0:14:12.610

it still has this kind of feel of those

0:14:09.670,0:14:14.860

early seasons which I really like let me

0:14:12.610,0:14:17.140

tell you kind of my personal experience

0:14:14.860,0:14:19.240

with this episode I first saw it when I

0:14:17.140,0:14:23.709

was a kid the episode came out when I

0:14:19.240,0:14:25.360

was 12 or 13 and I loved that episode so

0:14:23.709,0:14:27.670

I think there was a stretch of like two

0:14:25.360,0:14:30.130

weeks when I watched that episode and

0:14:27.670,0:14:31.450

like once or twice a day whoa constantly

0:14:30.130,0:14:34.180

just because it was music you know it

0:14:31.450,0:14:35.890

like there wasn't a story there was poil

0:14:34.180,0:14:37.510

for me when I got to the ending of the

0:14:35.890,0:14:38.460

other episode it was just enjoying the

0:14:37.510,0:14:39.870

music oh yeah

0:14:38.460,0:14:41.190

yeah and there for a while like I used

0:14:39.870,0:14:43.260

to play it in the background when I was

0:14:41.190,0:14:44.940

doing other things you know like I we

0:14:43.260,0:14:47.160

used to play this video game called

0:14:44.940,0:14:49.800

runescape which didn't have music for 8

0:14:47.160,0:14:52.170

has music now but back then it was just

0:14:49.800,0:14:54.240

this flash game with nothing going like

0:14:52.170,0:14:56.730

in terms of sound so I just play the

0:14:54.240,0:14:59.250

episode on repeat just listen to the

0:14:56.730,0:15:01.530

music and a while after I got to know

0:14:59.250,0:15:03.960

this episode I got my first personal

0:15:01.530,0:15:05.850

computer like it was the first time in

0:15:03.960,0:15:07.860

my life that I had a computer in my room

0:15:05.850,0:15:10.530

one that I didn't have to share with my

0:15:07.860,0:15:11.820

three brothers and I was really excited

0:15:10.530,0:15:14.640

about that and I wanted to use that

0:15:11.820,0:15:16.680

computer every waking moment and like

0:15:14.640,0:15:19.410

every time I wasn't using it felt like a

0:15:16.680,0:15:20.970

waste of time and back then I used to go

0:15:19.410,0:15:22.770

to sleep with music playing every night

0:15:20.970,0:15:25.080

you know and when I got that computer I

0:15:22.770,0:15:26.490

wanted to use it all the time so I was

0:15:25.080,0:15:28.860

trying to find something to do with it

0:15:26.490,0:15:30.480

when I was going to sleep so at first I

0:15:28.860,0:15:32.220

thought I'd about playing music with it

0:15:30.480,0:15:33.990

but it felt like something I could do

0:15:32.220,0:15:35.850

with the the old stereo I used to have

0:15:33.990,0:15:37.890

so instead of playing music I played

0:15:35.850,0:15:40.710

that South Park Christmas special every

0:15:37.890,0:15:42.390

night before I went to bed you know I'd

0:15:40.710,0:15:44.610

go to sleep with it in the background it

0:15:42.390,0:15:47.010

felt like I wasn't playing music I was

0:15:44.610,0:15:50.070

playing a video which felt cool to me

0:15:47.010,0:15:52.410

but like I listened to this episode so

0:15:50.070,0:15:53.760

many times that like today when I'm

0:15:52.410,0:15:55.770

talking to you and when I'm talking to

0:15:53.760,0:15:58.170

other people just when I'm walking down

0:15:55.770,0:16:00.420

the street all kinds of sounds just

0:15:58.170,0:16:03.060

remind me of this episode I think I've

0:16:00.420,0:16:05.520

heard it too many times that now I'm

0:16:03.060,0:16:07.650

hearing it everywhere I just watched it

0:16:05.520,0:16:09.480

yesterday to kind of see if it still

0:16:07.650,0:16:12.300

works for me and I was just so excited

0:16:09.480,0:16:14.310

going through it again that's crazy

0:16:12.300,0:16:18.480

I I know the things you like you kind of

0:16:14.310,0:16:20.400

consume often but if you're saying that

0:16:18.480,0:16:22.650

you did it too much then I just I can

0:16:20.400,0:16:25.290

only imagine that's in it's in the

0:16:22.650,0:16:27.600

thousands that is crazy is it is it the

0:16:25.290,0:16:30.060

one with the ding-dong

0:16:27.600,0:16:32.850

yeah mr Mackey sings that song oh and

0:16:30.060,0:16:37.100

there's also Cartman and Kyle's do it

0:16:32.850,0:16:40.830

with their dreidel dreidel dreidel and

0:16:37.100,0:16:42.450

mr. garrison sings a song about how on

0:16:40.830,0:16:44.970

every christmas day goes around the

0:16:42.450,0:16:46.920

world and tells i think it was muslims

0:16:44.970,0:16:48.270

hindus and japanese that they're

0:16:46.920,0:16:49.020

heathens and that they should celebrate

0:16:48.270,0:16:51.750

christmas

0:16:49.020,0:16:52.320

it's a funny episode the god allowed mr.

0:16:51.750,0:16:55.890

Barry

0:16:52.320,0:16:58.440

you got a matter yeah yeah you know I

0:16:55.890,0:17:01.010

kind of when I'm thinking about musical

0:16:58.440,0:17:03.930

episodes I'm thinking like kind of fun

0:17:01.010,0:17:05.100

different experiences but I get what you

0:17:03.930,0:17:07.410

mean Peter it's kind of a distraction

0:17:05.100,0:17:09.270

and it's it could be just a drop in

0:17:07.410,0:17:11.660

quality for an episode that is

0:17:09.270,0:17:15.690

consistent yeah they're very

0:17:11.660,0:17:17.820

inconsistent but like maybe if I was

0:17:15.690,0:17:18.839

into more music cool shows like Glee or

0:17:17.820,0:17:21.570

something like that

0:17:18.839,0:17:22.920

then maybe I'd like it but then again

0:17:21.570,0:17:24.360

it's not really a musical episode it's

0:17:22.920,0:17:26.449

just a musical series yeah

0:17:24.360,0:17:29.340

it's this it's just a weird sort of

0:17:26.449,0:17:31.950

thing to do if you're not like if you're

0:17:29.340,0:17:33.770

just like an action TV show and you

0:17:31.950,0:17:35.730

start to do a musical show it's like a

0:17:33.770,0:17:38.460

musical show would never do like an

0:17:35.730,0:17:40.440

action you know like music who is just

0:17:38.460,0:17:42.060

this weird genre where ever on sort of

0:17:40.440,0:17:44.400

says like oh we can get a piece of that

0:17:42.060,0:17:47.610

the only show that actually does a bit

0:17:44.400,0:17:51.090

of everything is it's very popular now

0:17:47.610,0:17:53.310

but community mmm yeah

0:17:51.090,0:17:55.590

community does like documentaries they

0:17:53.310,0:17:58.080

they did a musical episode which was

0:17:55.590,0:18:00.000

quite funny they did an action one with

0:17:58.080,0:18:02.400

all the paintballs yeah they do action

0:18:00.000,0:18:05.070

ones I proper action movies things so

0:18:02.400,0:18:07.170

they do they do it like a mockumentary

0:18:05.070,0:18:09.360

of like all these sort of different

0:18:07.170,0:18:13.080

styles it's kind of something but when

0:18:09.360,0:18:15.870

in a parody or how much yeah yeah it is

0:18:13.080,0:18:19.710

and often it is closer to homage because

0:18:15.870,0:18:21.300

they just do it so well but it's also a

0:18:19.710,0:18:24.180

parody because they make fun of it as

0:18:21.300,0:18:26.400

well but that's like a rare show if ever

0:18:24.180,0:18:27.780

every show did that then it just

0:18:26.400,0:18:29.730

wouldn't be fun what would be the

0:18:27.780,0:18:32.940

weirdest TV show to do a musical episode

0:18:29.730,0:18:34.260

III I haven't watched a lot of TV except

0:18:32.940,0:18:37.170

Flight of the Conchords and Firefly

0:18:34.260,0:18:39.480

which we've done for the podcast and the

0:18:37.170,0:18:41.400

the new Netflix thing that the last

0:18:39.480,0:18:45.090

dance on Netflix about Michael Jordan

0:18:41.400,0:18:47.280

which I would have wanted to see it do a

0:18:45.090,0:18:49.740

musical episode battle there's any

0:18:47.280,0:18:52.260

chance for that something like NCIS I

0:18:49.740,0:18:54.210

imagine that would be weird because

0:18:52.260,0:18:55.680

there's a lot of murder and the music

0:18:54.210,0:18:57.720

would have to be like all dramatic and

0:18:55.680,0:19:01.470

everything it would have to be dramatic

0:18:57.720,0:19:05.330

yeah or like maybe house of cards that

0:19:01.470,0:19:05.330

would seem odd house of cards would be

0:19:05.639,0:19:10.679

good luck I haven't watched it I just

0:19:07.889,0:19:12.450

didn't I wasn't I said NCIS first

0:19:10.679,0:19:13.979

because I wasn't sure if our guards did

0:19:12.450,0:19:17.590

do a musical episode do you want to be

0:19:13.979,0:19:23.690

cool now definitely No

0:19:17.590,0:19:27.120

[Music]

0:19:23.690,0:19:30.570

so today we're talking about Annie Hall

0:19:27.120,0:19:33.720

a Woody Allen romantic comedy from 1977

0:19:30.570,0:19:36.270

in the movie Elvis singer which is

0:19:33.720,0:19:38.640

played by Woody Allen he is a comedian

0:19:36.270,0:19:40.800

from New York and he kind of takes us

0:19:38.640,0:19:43.170

through his life mostly his adult life

0:19:40.800,0:19:45.440

in what seems to be an attempt to find

0:19:43.170,0:19:48.930

the reason why he can't find happiness

0:19:45.440,0:19:51.480

we meet Alvie at a pivotal point in his

0:19:48.930,0:19:53.760

life which is kind of a few months after

0:19:51.480,0:19:56.010

his relationship with Annie Hall now

0:19:53.760,0:19:59.190

which is played by Diane Keaton has

0:19:56.010,0:20:00.750

ended he also tells us about his two

0:19:59.190,0:20:03.240

failed marriages that came before that

0:20:00.750,0:20:05.280

and a little bit about his childhood and

0:20:03.240,0:20:08.460

all of his character it's kind of an

0:20:05.280,0:20:11.240

erotic a bit paranoid he's been going to

0:20:08.460,0:20:14.010

a psychoanalyst for 15 years he kind of

0:20:11.240,0:20:15.540

constantly self analyzes himself I think

0:20:14.010,0:20:17.130

that the main thing about him is the

0:20:15.540,0:20:19.740

fact that he can't seem to accept

0:20:17.130,0:20:21.960

anything good in his life like whenever

0:20:19.740,0:20:24.210

anything nice happens he finds either

0:20:21.960,0:20:26.940

the negative side in it or a way to

0:20:24.210,0:20:28.770

distract himself from it and on the

0:20:26.940,0:20:31.530

other hand the other main character

0:20:28.770,0:20:34.679

Annie Hall she is a very positive person

0:20:31.530,0:20:37.110

her heads in the clouds sometimes and

0:20:34.679,0:20:39.000

she has this kind of funny sense of

0:20:37.110,0:20:41.880

fashion which is something I had to have

0:20:39.000,0:20:43.440

someone point out to me but you know

0:20:41.880,0:20:45.600

she's smart even though she's a bit

0:20:43.440,0:20:47.910

unconfident at least in the beginning

0:20:45.600,0:20:50.370

and she also sees a therapist but like

0:20:47.910,0:20:52.920

all you know she seems to be kind of

0:20:50.370,0:20:55.080

level-headed and like this movie is

0:20:52.920,0:20:58.170

considered to be one of Woody Allen's

0:20:55.080,0:21:00.000

best films if not just the best from

0:20:58.170,0:21:02.580

what I've heard it is one of the

0:21:00.000,0:21:05.040

earliest movies of the rom-com genre at

0:21:02.580,0:21:07.230

the time of its release it wasn't kind

0:21:05.040,0:21:09.690

of in the norm to mix jokes and funny

0:21:07.230,0:21:12.270

moments with stories about relationships

0:21:09.690,0:21:14.760

in a movie another interesting thing to

0:21:12.270,0:21:17.190

note is that as far as I've read back

0:21:14.760,0:21:19.650

then there weren't a lot of romantic

0:21:17.190,0:21:23.280

movies in which the hero doesn't end up

0:21:19.650,0:21:25.230

with a girl spoiler and also like Alan

0:21:23.280,0:21:27.540

uses a number of very creative

0:21:25.230,0:21:29.700

storytelling techniques which I think

0:21:27.540,0:21:32.429

make the movie interesting on a

0:21:29.700,0:21:35.010

different level than just a story or or

0:21:32.429,0:21:36.570

morale or whatever what you guys think

0:21:35.010,0:21:37.330

of the movie I thought it was really

0:21:36.570,0:21:39.940

funny

0:21:37.330,0:21:43.600

it was it was a little bit all over the

0:21:39.940,0:21:46.360

place for me but I kind of felt like I

0:21:43.600,0:21:48.070

was on the same page as Alvey just the

0:21:46.360,0:21:51.070

jokes really clicked for me it's just

0:21:48.070,0:21:54.250

like the quick wit like really quick wit

0:21:51.070,0:21:56.530

and just the lack of regard for people

0:21:54.250,0:21:58.360

falling behind like if if you're not

0:21:56.530,0:22:00.130

gonna get a joke he doesn't dumb it down

0:21:58.360,0:22:03.040

for you and I thought that was really

0:22:00.130,0:22:06.910

cool because you like nowadays they feel

0:22:03.040,0:22:08.830

like all the jokes are so just thrown in

0:22:06.910,0:22:10.480

your face you know that all the Marvel

0:22:08.830,0:22:13.600

movies and stuff like that all the jokes

0:22:10.480,0:22:15.160

are so explicit but this one but if you

0:22:13.600,0:22:17.140

haven't seen or read something in

0:22:15.160,0:22:19.630

particular and he'll still say the joke

0:22:17.140,0:22:21.570

and I don't know you miss a little bit

0:22:19.630,0:22:24.490

because obviously you kind of read

0:22:21.570,0:22:26.680

everything but I think it's worth it

0:22:24.490,0:22:29.020

because you actually get some sort of

0:22:26.680,0:22:32.190

like deeper or maybe not deeper but more

0:22:29.020,0:22:35.500

interesting sort of dialogue and I think

0:22:32.190,0:22:38.590

the dialogue is pretty much what holds

0:22:35.500,0:22:41.830

it all together like it's not just

0:22:38.590,0:22:43.870

talking between action scenes and it's

0:22:41.830,0:22:46.210

not trying to prove a point or anything

0:22:43.870,0:22:49.780

like that it's really just to

0:22:46.210,0:22:51.970

interesting people living their lives as

0:22:49.780,0:22:54.640

I said it was all over the place for me

0:22:51.970,0:22:56.320

but I still really enjoyed it you can't

0:22:54.640,0:22:58.690

came with higher expectations I think

0:22:56.320,0:23:00.790

then at least me did the movie meet

0:22:58.690,0:23:02.080

those expectations - yeah I didn't

0:23:00.790,0:23:04.330

really think about it like that but I

0:23:02.080,0:23:07.120

did come with high expectations because

0:23:04.330,0:23:09.520

not to bang on about how many mother too

0:23:07.120,0:23:12.940

much right Ted always goes on about this

0:23:09.520,0:23:16.090

movie and I assumed I'd be sort of if

0:23:12.940,0:23:19.450

Ted liked so I felt like I'd kind of

0:23:16.090,0:23:22.870

like it and and don't get me wrong I did

0:23:19.450,0:23:27.220

like it but I felt like there was

0:23:22.870,0:23:30.790

probably more to the to the law that my

0:23:27.220,0:23:33.280

lor II that I didn't get like it seemed

0:23:30.790,0:23:36.010

more majestic a movie without having

0:23:33.280,0:23:39.340

seen it I always thought Annie Hall like

0:23:36.010,0:23:42.250

it's it's Annie Hall and I thought it

0:23:39.340,0:23:44.470

would sort of blow me away and it didn't

0:23:42.250,0:23:48.850

blow me away it was a fun thing to watch

0:23:44.470,0:23:50.840

it's also pretty short so I definitely

0:23:48.850,0:23:53.870

didn't feel like a waste at any time

0:23:50.840,0:23:54.680

but it was sort of just it was just a

0:23:53.870,0:23:56.960

very amusing

0:23:54.680,0:23:59.300

you know and like if you make a really

0:23:56.960,0:24:01.460

great film people don't say oh that was

0:23:59.300,0:24:03.500

really amusing like they'll say the odd

0:24:01.460,0:24:05.600

that was amazing that was inspiring you

0:24:03.500,0:24:08.570

know you're like but for me I really

0:24:05.600,0:24:10.640

have to stick with amusing so because it

0:24:08.570,0:24:13.760

keeps it solidly in like positive

0:24:10.640,0:24:16.160

territory but it just it's not gonna

0:24:13.760,0:24:18.020

reach like the heights of some other

0:24:16.160,0:24:22.070

stuff Mario what do you think I liked it

0:24:18.020,0:24:24.680

well first of all I think it's got this

0:24:22.070,0:24:27.890

Woody Allen vibe that everyone keeps

0:24:24.680,0:24:30.710

mentioning and and it holds up I think

0:24:27.890,0:24:33.440

it brings something that is that's still

0:24:30.710,0:24:35.960

to this day I mean the movies from 77

0:24:33.440,0:24:38.960

right and it's surprising watching it

0:24:35.960,0:24:41.690

you know a good couple of decades after

0:24:38.960,0:24:44.570

and that it still successfully kind of

0:24:41.690,0:24:47.360

talks to something that we can all

0:24:44.570,0:24:50.450

relate to and it's actually very funny I

0:24:47.360,0:24:52.400

think when I try to think what I like

0:24:50.450,0:24:55.220

usually my problem with old movies is

0:24:52.400,0:24:57.500

the rhythm right like I really like Star

0:24:55.220,0:24:59.750

Wars I think my issue with the old

0:24:57.500,0:25:02.030

movies you know the original trilogy is

0:24:59.750,0:25:04.910

kind of like the rhythm of the actual

0:25:02.030,0:25:07.970

movie this one maybe because it was

0:25:04.910,0:25:11.960

short and it was all over the place but

0:25:07.970,0:25:14.450

you always felt that it draws this point

0:25:11.960,0:25:16.700

to each scene if the character says

0:25:14.450,0:25:19.640

something it's either for the pot or

0:25:16.700,0:25:22.310

because it's funny and there's no like

0:25:19.640,0:25:25.550

idle talk and it resonated with me I

0:25:22.310,0:25:28.670

like that I found most of the jokes

0:25:25.550,0:25:31.250

pretty funny and the general plot kind

0:25:28.670,0:25:33.770

of kind of relatable I agree that that

0:25:31.250,0:25:37.220

it's not a masterpieces as you would

0:25:33.770,0:25:39.860

kind of tend to think but you know like

0:25:37.220,0:25:44.660

even in how much your mother day we kind

0:25:39.860,0:25:47.660

of adore this cultural milestones like

0:25:44.660,0:25:50.810

Star Wars like Annie Hall because it was

0:25:47.660,0:25:52.460

tremendous at at that time and I guess

0:25:50.810,0:25:55.850

today we kind of have like different

0:25:52.460,0:25:57.860

standards so I think I kind of prepare

0:25:55.850,0:26:01.310

myself for something that is but it will

0:25:57.860,0:26:03.560

be harder to associate myself will I

0:26:01.310,0:26:04.500

think it was a good surprise he talked

0:26:03.560,0:26:06.450

about the the

0:26:04.500,0:26:09.210

and the pacing of the movie and I think

0:26:06.450,0:26:12.570

like it has a lot to do with kind of the

0:26:09.210,0:26:15.020

way that Woody Allen speaks because like

0:26:12.570,0:26:17.250

the beginning of the movie you see LV

0:26:15.020,0:26:20.640

standing in front of the camera and just

0:26:17.250,0:26:23.550

talk to us he's telling us the story so

0:26:20.640,0:26:26.910

kind of the whole story is basically him

0:26:23.550,0:26:29.490

telling us his story and you know he

0:26:26.910,0:26:31.290

talks quickly it doesn't wait for for

0:26:29.490,0:26:33.750

you to get the point he just goes from

0:26:31.290,0:26:35.790

point to point to point and he just goes

0:26:33.750,0:26:37.260

all over the place so I think kind of

0:26:35.790,0:26:39.690

the the pacing of the movie is the

0:26:37.260,0:26:42.090

pacing of Woody Allen's speech if you

0:26:39.690,0:26:45.000

know what yeah definitely I can also say

0:26:42.090,0:26:47.970

that it's like well I haven't seen all

0:26:45.000,0:26:51.960

of Alan's movies but most of them are

0:26:47.970,0:26:54.330

kind of like the same quick vibe really

0:26:51.960,0:26:57.030

fluid I really had a hard time with this

0:26:54.330,0:26:59.430

movie at least the first time I watched

0:26:57.030,0:27:02.010

it because I watched it twice but like

0:26:59.430,0:27:03.870

the first time I watched it I didn't

0:27:02.010,0:27:06.480

like any of the characters I think that

0:27:03.870,0:27:08.310

there's like nothing deep in terms of

0:27:06.480,0:27:10.020

the story I thought the writing was

0:27:08.310,0:27:13.200

witty like I thought it was a funny

0:27:10.020,0:27:14.910

movie I really liked all the kind of

0:27:13.200,0:27:16.290

interesting things that Woody Allen does

0:27:14.910,0:27:19.590

throughout the movie in terms of

0:27:16.290,0:27:21.360

storytelling but like I wasn't enough to

0:27:19.590,0:27:23.160

make the experience really positive for

0:27:21.360,0:27:25.170

me and like you said Peter it's not a

0:27:23.160,0:27:29.100

real long movie like it's 90 minutes

0:27:25.170,0:27:31.530

even 85 something like that and by the

0:27:29.100,0:27:34.470

end I kind of lost interest and I was

0:27:31.530,0:27:36.720

just waiting for it to end and I know

0:27:34.470,0:27:39.930

that it was probably missing something

0:27:36.720,0:27:41.250

and that like I was still going to read

0:27:39.930,0:27:43.920

about the movie and try to figure out

0:27:41.250,0:27:45.990

what I'd missed and after kind of having

0:27:43.920,0:27:47.820

it explained to me but if you you know

0:27:45.990,0:27:49.740

like YouTube videos and movie reviews I

0:27:47.820,0:27:51.960

think I understand the movie a bit

0:27:49.740,0:27:55.950

better now definitely not perfectly but

0:27:51.960,0:27:58.530

better and I still I still don't really

0:27:55.950,0:28:01.260

connect with the movie on like personal

0:27:58.530,0:28:04.080

level but all in all I kind of I like

0:28:01.260,0:28:06.210

the story I like what I think the

0:28:04.080,0:28:08.670

meaning of it is and like every time I

0:28:06.210,0:28:10.290

think about that movie or at least about

0:28:08.670,0:28:13.320

the story about what I think the meaning

0:28:10.290,0:28:15.090

is I like it a little bit better all in

0:28:13.320,0:28:17.040

all I like that movie do you think the

0:28:15.090,0:28:18.480

meaning was the meaning of the movie was

0:28:17.040,0:28:20.370

all right so here's

0:28:18.480,0:28:21.450

what I think the movies about I'd like

0:28:20.370,0:28:23.880

to know what you're gonna think about it

0:28:21.450,0:28:26.970

later so like as I mentioned I think

0:28:23.880,0:28:29.250

that LV disrupts anything good that

0:28:26.970,0:28:32.669

happens to him like we never see him

0:28:29.250,0:28:35.370

enjoy anything for for a minute you know

0:28:32.669,0:28:36.960

either with his ex-wives or you know the

0:28:35.370,0:28:39.450

moment that things seem to go great with

0:28:36.960,0:28:41.790

Annie like after they say I love you for

0:28:39.450,0:28:43.590

the first time he freaks out about

0:28:41.790,0:28:46.740

moving in together and and everything

0:28:43.590,0:28:48.860

starts to break apart right then and he

0:28:46.740,0:28:51.660

starts picking on Annie about the most

0:28:48.860,0:28:55.650

mundane things about the smallest things

0:28:51.660,0:28:58.049

and like in the end he doesn't get to be

0:28:55.650,0:28:59.760

with Annie but I think that in the end

0:28:58.049,0:29:01.799

he seems to learn from the experience he

0:28:59.760,0:29:03.960

grows and maybe he'll be able to find

0:29:01.799,0:29:07.169

happiness in the future you know I think

0:29:03.960,0:29:10.110

it's a movie about the fact that he his

0:29:07.169,0:29:11.910

lack of happiness comes from within you

0:29:10.110,0:29:14.549

know it's the way he experiences the

0:29:11.910,0:29:16.380

world the way he looks at it that blocks

0:29:14.549,0:29:18.540

him from finding happiness yeah that's

0:29:16.380,0:29:20.429

what I got from her as well yeah like

0:29:18.540,0:29:22.620

one of the first things he says in the

0:29:20.429,0:29:25.590

movie is that he and Annie broke up and

0:29:22.620,0:29:27.390

he can't get his mind around that and in

0:29:25.590,0:29:29.580

the end we see him kind of coming to

0:29:27.390,0:29:31.679

terms with it you know maybe even

0:29:29.580,0:29:34.230

gaining this optimistic point of view

0:29:31.679,0:29:36.929

did you guys know that the movie was

0:29:34.230,0:29:38.460

supposed to be called anhedonia it was

0:29:36.929,0:29:41.460

the working title of the movie anhedonia

0:29:38.460,0:29:42.059

which means inability to be happy hmm

0:29:41.460,0:29:44.100

interesting

0:29:42.059,0:29:46.230

I feel like I'm the one that keeps going

0:29:44.100,0:29:49.010

on about Hayden's and all this stuff so

0:29:46.230,0:29:51.690

I feel like I should have known that but

0:29:49.010,0:29:55.140

now I'm glad they changed the name yeah

0:29:51.690,0:29:57.900

unhit dona just sounds like continental

0:29:55.140,0:29:59.760

philosophy on steroids no Annie Hall is

0:29:57.900,0:30:03.000

a classic much better movie name yeah

0:29:59.760,0:30:05.280

yeah it does explain a lot I always felt

0:30:03.000,0:30:08.520

like the fame was self-sabotage yeah

0:30:05.280,0:30:10.950

just as soon as he's going well he just

0:30:08.520,0:30:13.169

trips on his own feet and you know yeah

0:30:10.950,0:30:17.790

and sometimes I and I feel like it was

0:30:13.169,0:30:19.770

almost not deliberate but like just just

0:30:17.790,0:30:21.720

brimming on his subconscious you know

0:30:19.770,0:30:24.270

yeah as soon as he recognizes

0:30:21.720,0:30:26.820

everything's going well he sort of just

0:30:24.270,0:30:28.890

freaks out a little bit and just needs

0:30:26.820,0:30:30.150

something else to go wrong yeah

0:30:28.890,0:30:31.640

throughout the movie is really

0:30:30.150,0:30:33.890

self-centered he can

0:30:31.640,0:30:37.190

be happy for anyone else for anything

0:30:33.890,0:30:39.170

good that happens to them and he can't

0:30:37.190,0:30:41.390

be happy for anything that happens to

0:30:39.170,0:30:43.130

him at all I think the movie kind of

0:30:41.390,0:30:44.980

starts with it he doesn't want to be a

0:30:43.130,0:30:49.070

member of a club that will have him so

0:30:44.980,0:30:52.130

that's kind of like the theme the entire

0:30:49.070,0:30:54.050

movie were where he's frustrated by that

0:30:52.130,0:30:56.750

and and it keeps getting hurt by it

0:30:54.050,0:30:57.650

because every time he's on to something

0:30:56.750,0:30:59.540

good

0:30:57.650,0:31:01.850

it seems unworthy to him because it

0:30:59.540,0:31:03.170

doesn't want to be a part of that club

0:31:01.850,0:31:06.200

and he doesn't want to be with any girl

0:31:03.170,0:31:08.930

that likes yeah and the moment she goes

0:31:06.200,0:31:11.480

away and he's not fit for that club

0:31:08.930,0:31:14.870

anymore then he wants her back he was

0:31:11.480,0:31:16.970

not wants to be back so badly yeah yeah

0:31:14.870,0:31:18.320

that's a good analysis yeah I totally

0:31:16.970,0:31:20.990

missed it like the first time I the way

0:31:18.320,0:31:22.610

I think that I don't the way I got it

0:31:20.990,0:31:25.640

and it's interesting to hear that do you

0:31:22.610,0:31:28.760

think that he kind of changed but my

0:31:25.640,0:31:30.980

take is that he did the character didn't

0:31:28.760,0:31:33.620

really change I mean because the movie

0:31:30.980,0:31:35.540

ends in him saying you know the joke

0:31:33.620,0:31:38.870

with my brother thinks he's a chicken

0:31:35.540,0:31:41.240

and then the doctor says then why won't

0:31:38.870,0:31:43.340

you commit him and then you and then he

0:31:41.240,0:31:45.710

says well I would but I need the eggs

0:31:43.340,0:31:49.820

and that's kind of like Woody Allen

0:31:45.710,0:31:52.250

saying I understand that relationships

0:31:49.820,0:31:54.860

are a mess and it's hard and I'm gonna

0:31:52.250,0:31:57.940

and I'm gonna get affected by it

0:31:54.860,0:32:00.820

but I need it anyway it's kind of like

0:31:57.940,0:32:05.060

reconciliation with with the fact that

0:32:00.820,0:32:07.460

it's never going to be okay like he I

0:32:05.060,0:32:09.260

don't know it's kind of like you know

0:32:07.460,0:32:11.690

it's it's accepting the situation

0:32:09.260,0:32:13.550

instead of of being miserable by it

0:32:11.690,0:32:15.050

yeah it's accepting it but not changing

0:32:13.550,0:32:16.940

yeah that's kind of like what I got I

0:32:15.050,0:32:19.280

don't know I thought in the end there

0:32:16.940,0:32:21.380

was this a montage you know of all you

0:32:19.280,0:32:24.260

it's like he remembers all the good

0:32:21.380,0:32:25.850

moments he had with Annie and then they

0:32:24.260,0:32:29.630

go their separate ways

0:32:25.850,0:32:32.750

and I thought of it as kind of a hehehe

0:32:29.630,0:32:35.420

except that the relationship is over

0:32:32.750,0:32:37.640

but he still gained something along the

0:32:35.420,0:32:39.890

way you know like the fact that he is

0:32:37.640,0:32:42.280

able to see the good in life even if

0:32:39.890,0:32:44.570

it's in the past even if it's over

0:32:42.280,0:32:45.300

allows him to kind of look beyond the

0:32:44.570,0:32:47.790

bad thing

0:32:45.300,0:32:49.470

in life that's how I saw it no I I think

0:32:47.790,0:32:51.300

that's pretty spot-on

0:32:49.470,0:32:52.800

and I like that I like that I totally

0:32:51.300,0:32:54.360

like I said I totally missed it the

0:32:52.800,0:32:56.940

first time I saw I didn't think there

0:32:54.360,0:32:59.580

was anything to the story I thought that

0:32:56.940,0:33:01.740

the the movie was a platform for Woody

0:32:59.580,0:33:03.780

Allen to place himself you know among a

0:33:01.740,0:33:06.330

lot of beautiful tall people talented

0:33:03.780,0:33:08.910

people and tell jokes and be like the

0:33:06.330,0:33:12.030

funny guy so I thought it was a lot of

0:33:08.910,0:33:14.940

self like not just mr. Bayesian for

0:33:12.030,0:33:20.400

Woody Allen but sex sex with someone who

0:33:14.940,0:33:23.130

loves don't don't sell short that's the

0:33:20.400,0:33:27.300

only line in the movie that really

0:33:23.130,0:33:29.280

really annoyed me he he tells any that

0:33:27.300,0:33:32.070

the classes she's taking are like

0:33:29.280,0:33:35.540

masturbation like he knocks off mental

0:33:32.070,0:33:37.770

masturbation yeah and then she says I

0:33:35.540,0:33:39.780

remember but that she says something bad

0:33:37.770,0:33:41.460

about masturbation he says don't knock

0:33:39.780,0:33:43.410

masturbation off it's sex with someone

0:33:41.460,0:33:45.780

you love but like just a second ago you

0:33:43.410,0:33:48.480

knocked it off yourself I don't like

0:33:45.780,0:33:50.580

that yeah I like that actually and also

0:33:48.480,0:33:53.070

coining the term mental masturbation is

0:33:50.580,0:33:55.770

he's funny yeah I hear that term yeah

0:33:53.070,0:33:57.690

like thrown around a lot that's that's

0:33:55.770,0:34:01.320

the character of Woody Allen throughout

0:33:57.690,0:34:04.010

the movie I mean he's keep saying things

0:34:01.320,0:34:07.380

in their opposite he tells her to go to

0:34:04.010,0:34:10.500

and study like adult courses and then he

0:34:07.380,0:34:12.390

says they're trash and yeah he like

0:34:10.500,0:34:15.030

keeps contradicting that it's character

0:34:12.390,0:34:16.590

is just you right I guess that's part of

0:34:15.030,0:34:19.560

his comedy you know yeah you're right

0:34:16.590,0:34:21.690

guys for some reason a lot of these kind

0:34:19.560,0:34:24.720

of contradictions and a lot of things

0:34:21.690,0:34:27.030

that are supposed to be kind of clear to

0:34:24.720,0:34:28.320

the viewer didn't work for me I don't

0:34:27.030,0:34:30.180

think it's a problem with the movie

0:34:28.320,0:34:32.220

because people love this movie and

0:34:30.180,0:34:34.290

people get this movie but I for some

0:34:32.220,0:34:36.240

reason I just didn't get it I needed

0:34:34.290,0:34:38.430

every bit of it to be explained to me

0:34:36.240,0:34:40.620

know Carl yeah that does make sense I

0:34:38.430,0:34:42.630

felt like I was sort of a little bit

0:34:40.620,0:34:45.960

more relaxed in terms of I was happy to

0:34:42.630,0:34:49.650

miss a few jokes as long as I felt like

0:34:45.960,0:34:53.040

I was having a good time and I feel I

0:34:49.650,0:34:55.590

had gotten enough of it to really sort

0:34:53.040,0:34:58.560

of enjoy myself and there were like some

0:34:55.590,0:34:59.190

really easy jokes as well like that

0:34:58.560,0:35:00.300

isn't like

0:34:59.190,0:35:02.550

it's not like you had to be like a

0:35:00.300,0:35:05.280

physicist to understand everything like

0:35:02.550,0:35:07.410

there there was some like the one how

0:35:05.280,0:35:11.550

he's talking to the young Christopher

0:35:07.410,0:35:14.340

Walken and he's just like having this

0:35:11.550,0:35:16.590

absolutely weird conversation with him

0:35:14.340,0:35:18.750

and he just says sorry I've got to go

0:35:16.590,0:35:22.260

but I'm actually jus back on yeah and

0:35:18.750,0:35:25.890

and then they get into the car later on

0:35:22.260,0:35:29.280

where Christopher Walken I forget the

0:35:25.890,0:35:32.640

guys name but he he was talking about

0:35:29.280,0:35:34.110

like when you go past like cars and you

0:35:32.640,0:35:36.660

see the headlights and you just think

0:35:34.110,0:35:40.200

about for a second just like swerving in

0:35:36.660,0:35:41.790

front of them and then they go in they

0:35:40.200,0:35:44.610

do this sort of panoramic view of the

0:35:41.790,0:35:46.950

the car and then you've got him driving

0:35:44.610,0:35:49.830

and he's a smiling and he's asleep

0:35:46.950,0:35:52.920

distracted and then like you see like

0:35:49.830,0:35:55.980

the headlights and you see you see Alvie

0:35:52.920,0:35:58.620

just like sweating just like keeping an

0:35:55.980,0:36:00.780

eye on there on the headlights I thought

0:35:58.620,0:36:03.720

that was like that was like pretty easy

0:36:00.780,0:36:06.630

to get but I don't expect like a 1977

0:36:03.720,0:36:09.030

movie to be so sort of on the comedy you

0:36:06.630,0:36:11.670

know maybe I just assume like because

0:36:09.030,0:36:14.010

I'm born later I feel like I can only be

0:36:11.670,0:36:16.050

the funny generation but like you know

0:36:14.010,0:36:18.870

there was some legitimate comedy that

0:36:16.050,0:36:21.750

still stands up today like Nowacki 1977

0:36:18.870,0:36:24.360

and also I want to mention like we we've

0:36:21.750,0:36:28.500

actually seen a few movies not not from

0:36:24.360,0:36:30.210

1977 but we've seen jaws which is 1975

0:36:28.500,0:36:33.240

the producer and then we saw the

0:36:30.210,0:36:35.130

producers 67 so we have a little bit

0:36:33.240,0:36:36.960

like we're slowly building up the

0:36:35.130,0:36:40.710

timeline out like if you compare this to

0:36:36.960,0:36:44.700

Jaws two years apart like jaws does feel

0:36:40.710,0:36:46.770

like the jokes just don't compare to

0:36:44.700,0:36:49.980

Woody Allen like the Woody Allen joke so

0:36:46.770,0:36:51.630

like way more interest now like the the

0:36:49.980,0:36:56.040

dialogue is like the best pictures is

0:36:51.630,0:36:59.460

obviously like cinematically shot to

0:36:56.040,0:37:02.310

perfection but it's it doesn't hold up

0:36:59.460,0:37:05.010

and compared to the dialogue of will you

0:37:02.310,0:37:07.620

know so as much as as much as it was a

0:37:05.010,0:37:10.410

bit messy around the sides like I could

0:37:07.620,0:37:12.780

see how people really liked the film if

0:37:10.410,0:37:15.060

they've watched it a lot and

0:37:12.780,0:37:17.610

it's like a bit of a cult sort of

0:37:15.060,0:37:19.890

following like I can imagine just for

0:37:17.610,0:37:23.160

people like us if we just want to see it

0:37:19.890,0:37:25.290

once we might not love it but if you

0:37:23.160,0:37:27.180

grew up with this film and you can

0:37:25.290,0:37:29.400

remember all the lines I can I could

0:37:27.180,0:37:31.470

imagine this being uh sort of like one

0:37:29.400,0:37:33.720

of those imperfect films which you still

0:37:31.470,0:37:38.100

have always come back to you know angry

0:37:33.720,0:37:40.590

here's a couple of details that I I

0:37:38.100,0:37:43.500

think they're really minor I like I

0:37:40.590,0:37:45.270

don't think they're as meaningful as I'm

0:37:43.500,0:37:47.430

going to talk about them right now but

0:37:45.270,0:37:50.370

they really made the movie more

0:37:47.430,0:37:53.220

endearing to me like the first one is

0:37:50.370,0:37:54.960

those scenes where he's you know you see

0:37:53.220,0:37:57.210

Alvey walking down the street and he

0:37:54.960,0:38:00.990

basically talks to us he's telling us

0:37:57.210,0:38:03.420

like how confused or or how frustrated

0:38:00.990,0:38:05.490

he is I think it happens once when he

0:38:03.420,0:38:07.380

and Annie I think break up and he puts

0:38:05.490,0:38:10.740

her in a taxi and then he she drives

0:38:07.380,0:38:12.720

away and he's talking to us but as he's

0:38:10.740,0:38:14.910

talking then he's telling us about all

0:38:12.720,0:38:17.490

the things that bother him random people

0:38:14.910,0:38:19.290

in the street are kind of talking back

0:38:17.490,0:38:21.090

to him and kind of giving him answers

0:38:19.290,0:38:23.460

you know and it's like mostly

0:38:21.090,0:38:26.700

the correct answers what a normal person

0:38:23.460,0:38:29.400

would feel that and the fact that when

0:38:26.700,0:38:31.320

the movie ends the the last scene of the

0:38:29.400,0:38:34.590

scene where they go their separate ways

0:38:31.320,0:38:37.050

and the movie ends that's shot from

0:38:34.590,0:38:39.420

within like a restaurant from an

0:38:37.050,0:38:41.280

anonymous kind of viewer like you don't

0:38:39.420,0:38:42.810

know who's looking at them but it's it

0:38:41.280,0:38:45.840

feels like you know you're just looking

0:38:42.810,0:38:47.640

at a couple of people and it's like a

0:38:45.840,0:38:49.950

huge moment in their lives you know

0:38:47.640,0:38:52.110

they've finally managed to kind of move

0:38:49.950,0:38:55.860

forward with their lives but here just a

0:38:52.110,0:38:57.660

random viewer so the fact that like

0:38:55.860,0:38:59.070

you're a random viewer you're looking

0:38:57.660,0:39:01.470

around and it can it can happen to

0:38:59.070,0:39:03.540

anyone and the fact that the everyone on

0:39:01.470,0:39:06.420

the street have answers to what

0:39:03.540,0:39:09.270

frustrates him it adds another meaning

0:39:06.420,0:39:11.070

to the movie which says every one of us

0:39:09.270,0:39:13.230

deals with these kind of things you know

0:39:11.070,0:39:15.660

it's not that Alvy Singer is special

0:39:13.230,0:39:16.380

we're all going through it which I

0:39:15.660,0:39:18.420

really liked

0:39:16.380,0:39:21.360

yeah I did enjoy that bit actually that

0:39:18.420,0:39:23.870

they do that quite a lot he breaks the

0:39:21.360,0:39:25.760

fourth wall very often yeah like

0:39:23.870,0:39:28.940

systematically all that

0:39:25.760,0:39:30.830

and yeah it kind of brings you in to the

0:39:28.940,0:39:33.530

movie a little bit more like not many

0:39:30.830,0:39:36.380

movies do break the fourth wall but when

0:39:33.530,0:39:37.820

they do like I know the biggest the

0:39:36.380,0:39:41.990

biggest movie to break the fourth wall

0:39:37.820,0:39:43.970

recently was the Deadpool yeah maybe but

0:39:41.990,0:39:48.470

that felt like a really big deal this

0:39:43.970,0:39:51.620

one felt like very just casual like when

0:39:48.470,0:39:54.320

he was there yeah like there was no wall

0:39:51.620,0:39:55.970

like he was just speaking like it felt

0:39:54.320,0:39:57.200

like he was breaking the fourth wall but

0:39:55.970,0:40:00.080

he was it wasn't because it was just

0:39:57.200,0:40:01.880

talking to himself and you were breaking

0:40:00.080,0:40:03.500

the fourth wall in this weird saying

0:40:01.880,0:40:04.970

that's where huh you were saying

0:40:03.500,0:40:08.480

something you weren't really meant to

0:40:04.970,0:40:10.820

say yeah that's a you know I didn't

0:40:08.480,0:40:12.710

think about the last scene as he

0:40:10.820,0:40:14.900

presented that's that's really great III

0:40:12.710,0:40:16.910

now understand the last scene like in a

0:40:14.900,0:40:20.060

completely different way like it even

0:40:16.910,0:40:23.090

makes it more relatable you know in a

0:40:20.060,0:40:24.560

way that that you can glance at the

0:40:23.090,0:40:27.110

universe and the universe kind of

0:40:24.560,0:40:29.180

glances back at you I think that in

0:40:27.110,0:40:31.070

movies there are kind of you know in

0:40:29.180,0:40:33.890

this genre and this kind of rom-com

0:40:31.070,0:40:35.990

genre especially in ones that are told

0:40:33.890,0:40:38.300

from the perspective of the male lead

0:40:35.990,0:40:40.340

you're usually kind of supposed to fall

0:40:38.300,0:40:43.610

in love with the female lead you know

0:40:40.340,0:40:45.320

what I mean like here's some examples

0:40:43.610,0:40:46.880

there's like Clementine from Eternal

0:40:45.320,0:40:50.510

Sunshine of the spotless mind which

0:40:46.880,0:40:53.480

she's so charming and summer from 500

0:40:50.510,0:40:56.420

days of summer and there's a me from

0:40:53.480,0:40:58.670

chasing Jamie and maybe even Samantha

0:40:56.420,0:41:00.440

from her even though you don't see her

0:40:58.670,0:41:03.260

at all throughout the movie but those

0:41:00.440,0:41:05.600

are like characters there are presented

0:41:03.260,0:41:07.970

in a light that makes you fall in love

0:41:05.600,0:41:09.740

with them you know but here I didn't

0:41:07.970,0:41:11.810

really feel it too much towards Annie

0:41:09.740,0:41:14.570

like I thought she was cute she's in fun

0:41:11.810,0:41:16.280

but it's not that I didn't want her you

0:41:14.570,0:41:18.620

know I didn't want her to be happy in

0:41:16.280,0:41:20.570

the and and when the movie ended but

0:41:18.620,0:41:22.610

like I didn't feel like I could connect

0:41:20.570,0:41:24.380

with her in real life what do you guys

0:41:22.610,0:41:28.120

think about her character I think that

0:41:24.380,0:41:31.550

both characters or even all of them are

0:41:28.120,0:41:33.740

non relatable in first sight

0:41:31.550,0:41:35.870

all of them are eccentric you know even

0:41:33.740,0:41:39.470

if you take Allison I think his first

0:41:35.870,0:41:41.119

wife in the movie she's she's also also

0:41:39.470,0:41:43.310

we're I really liked her yeah I liked

0:41:41.119,0:41:45.260

her actually yeah but she's not but I

0:41:43.310,0:41:47.450

don't think she's relatable I mean she's

0:41:45.260,0:41:48.830

kind of seems like cold and distance to

0:41:47.450,0:41:51.200

begin with and I don't think you were

0:41:48.830,0:41:54.050

supposed to kind of connect with her too

0:41:51.200,0:41:57.140

much yeah yeah I think like I guess in

0:41:54.050,0:42:00.140

most comedies like most of the

0:41:57.140,0:42:03.700

characters are kind of like characters

0:42:00.140,0:42:09.260

like they kind of symbolize or maybe

0:42:03.700,0:42:13.070

represent a typecast of someone that you

0:42:09.260,0:42:14.990

know like you can say like you know at

0:42:13.070,0:42:17.030

first when I saw Woody Allen did it

0:42:14.990,0:42:20.869

reminded me of a friend that always

0:42:17.030,0:42:25.550

imitates Woody Allen and but but also

0:42:20.869,0:42:27.320

but also when seeing Annie she also

0:42:25.550,0:42:29.660

reminds me someone I mean she's she's

0:42:27.320,0:42:33.230

definitely not the same the same person

0:42:29.660,0:42:36.160

but it's like you recognize that even

0:42:33.230,0:42:41.660

though you don't necessarily sympathize

0:42:36.160,0:42:43.550

with her so I agree I think that's in

0:42:41.660,0:42:46.240

general like all the characters and and

0:42:43.550,0:42:48.740

I think that any as one of the leads is

0:42:46.240,0:42:51.770

it's more significant that you don't

0:42:48.740,0:42:54.200

really you don't really get on the vibe

0:42:51.770,0:42:56.869

of that character like she starts very

0:42:54.200,0:42:59.780

shy I don't know you kind of get the

0:42:56.869,0:43:03.320

feeling that she's uneducated because

0:42:59.780,0:43:06.650

would because singer kind of tries to

0:43:03.320,0:43:08.300

push her towards you know adult horses

0:43:06.650,0:43:10.160

or something like that

0:43:08.300,0:43:13.849

sure he always buys her books and stuff

0:43:10.160,0:43:16.250

yeah sure I felt like to me like she was

0:43:13.849,0:43:19.970

educated or like she was at least smart

0:43:16.250,0:43:24.710

but she never really expressed sit and

0:43:19.970,0:43:26.690

like and Alvey was like he just want

0:43:24.710,0:43:29.780

it's not like he wanted her to be smart

0:43:26.690,0:43:32.180

but he wanted her to look smart you know

0:43:29.780,0:43:34.310

like it was all about the image how

0:43:32.180,0:43:35.660

people looked at them hmm like he

0:43:34.310,0:43:37.880

couldn't be seen to have a dumb

0:43:35.660,0:43:40.640

girlfriend how'd you like her girls were

0:43:37.880,0:43:44.030

bitter um I quite liked her actually

0:43:40.640,0:43:46.580

like weirdly enough I thought the

0:43:44.030,0:43:48.170

fashion was actually kind of cool like I

0:43:46.580,0:43:50.210

like that's obviously what she's known

0:43:48.170,0:43:52.670

for so it feels a bit cliche pointing

0:43:50.210,0:43:53.270

out but yeah I don't know like it was a

0:43:52.670,0:43:56.930

kind

0:43:53.270,0:43:59.090

of a really defined a character for me

0:43:56.930,0:44:04.610

like the just the way she was a little

0:43:59.090,0:44:06.140

bit not flaky but like it's exemplified

0:44:04.610,0:44:07.910

in the scene after the tennis where

0:44:06.140,0:44:11.000

she's off like oh are you going uptown

0:44:07.910,0:44:13.460

and he's like no I'm going downtown and

0:44:11.000,0:44:15.200

she's uh I'm going downtown like she's

0:44:13.460,0:44:18.440

sort of flaky but she's also sort of

0:44:15.200,0:44:20.780

just really free-spirited who doesn't

0:44:18.440,0:44:23.510

doesn't really need to have her finger

0:44:20.780,0:44:26.090

on the pulse and the fashion it just

0:44:23.510,0:44:28.010

seems like she never really noticed

0:44:26.090,0:44:31.970

other people dressing she that's just

0:44:28.010,0:44:34.610

how she just wanted to dress and yeah

0:44:31.970,0:44:36.860

she rocks it so I didn't really feel

0:44:34.610,0:44:38.300

connected to her a lot I don't know if

0:44:36.860,0:44:39.980

it's just because it's an older movie or

0:44:38.300,0:44:42.410

something and girls sort of dress

0:44:39.980,0:44:45.110

differently or they look a bit different

0:44:42.410,0:44:47.480

but I don't know I like I didn't really

0:44:45.110,0:44:49.430

connect with her too much but I didn't

0:44:47.480,0:44:51.560

really feel like that was the point I

0:44:49.430,0:44:54.440

feel like I feel like

0:44:51.560,0:44:57.910

Alvie connected with her but I feel like

0:44:54.440,0:45:02.930

I feel like Alvey was also sort of

0:44:57.910,0:45:05.120

didn't really get her at all like he

0:45:02.930,0:45:10.040

just wanted to sort of force her to be

0:45:05.120,0:45:12.860

like do this College stuff and like sort

0:45:10.040,0:45:15.980

of be the person that he wants to date

0:45:12.860,0:45:18.230

and whereas and he just wasn't really

0:45:15.980,0:45:20.480

having it yeah I don't know like I feel

0:45:18.230,0:45:24.320

like Alvey did obviously like her a lot

0:45:20.480,0:45:27.320

and like I feel like maybe in time like

0:45:24.320,0:45:29.230

and with wisdom he'll understand that he

0:45:27.320,0:45:31.760

really did like her for who she was but

0:45:29.230,0:45:34.460

like he was always trying to change her

0:45:31.760,0:45:36.950

so I don't know how if I could I could

0:45:34.460,0:45:39.470

see an argument being made that Alvey

0:45:36.950,0:45:41.840

didn't really connect with her either no

0:45:39.470,0:45:43.640

hmm that's an interesting one it makes a

0:45:41.840,0:45:47.090

lot of sense to me now one thing that I

0:45:43.640,0:45:47.630

I did like is that like it despite the

0:45:47.090,0:45:49.400

fact that

0:45:47.630,0:45:52.070

Elvie couldn't find anything in his life

0:45:49.400,0:45:54.530

that makes him happy at least throughout

0:45:52.070,0:45:58.070

the movie he had a kind of a positive

0:45:54.530,0:46:00.080

impact on Annie's life like he he drove

0:45:58.070,0:46:02.510

her crazy near the end of their

0:46:00.080,0:46:04.220

relationship and and everything but all

0:46:02.510,0:46:06.650

in all if you look at it like after she

0:46:04.220,0:46:09.740

auditioned to sing at that bar she

0:46:06.650,0:46:11.870

to quit and she would have quit but he

0:46:09.740,0:46:14.240

he encouraged her and to continuing that

0:46:11.870,0:46:16.130

proved to be kind of the moment where

0:46:14.240,0:46:18.770

everything starts picking up for her

0:46:16.130,0:46:21.650

like she starts singing her confidence

0:46:18.770,0:46:23.570

kind of builds up she gets this deal to

0:46:21.650,0:46:25.610

move to a new place in California and

0:46:23.570,0:46:28.850

she records albums with famous people

0:46:25.610,0:46:30.650

and she becomes happy so I think that

0:46:28.850,0:46:31.550

all in all Alvey had a positive impact

0:46:30.650,0:46:34.820

on Annie's life

0:46:31.550,0:46:36.260

does any and his wardrobe changed

0:46:34.820,0:46:40.550

throughout the movie a little bit she

0:46:36.260,0:46:43.280

starts wearing very mannish I guess

0:46:40.550,0:46:45.680

outfits you know with the we got a vest

0:46:43.280,0:46:48.200

and a tie and like I'm trying to think I

0:46:45.680,0:46:50.090

think like the last scene she's wearing

0:46:48.200,0:46:52.970

at this white dress where were they meet

0:46:50.090,0:46:55.070

in LA and like this pink scarf and these

0:46:52.970,0:46:57.110

big glasses maybe maybe it is kind of a

0:46:55.070,0:47:00.560

symbol for that yeah I knew I know that

0:46:57.110,0:47:02.000

it kind of popped out to me that when

0:47:00.560,0:47:04.640

they're breaking up like they go back

0:47:02.000,0:47:06.050

from LA and they decide on the plane

0:47:04.640,0:47:08.230

that they want to break up and then they

0:47:06.050,0:47:13.730

kind of split their belonging belonging

0:47:08.230,0:47:16.000

belongings belongings thank you then

0:47:13.730,0:47:18.680

they they're kind of wearing matching

0:47:16.000,0:47:20.990

sweaters I didn't know there's that yeah

0:47:18.680,0:47:23.120

it's it's kind of weird because they

0:47:20.990,0:47:25.160

look like an old married couple but

0:47:23.120,0:47:27.260

they're splitting up and I try to

0:47:25.160,0:47:30.560

understand well I don't think it was

0:47:27.260,0:47:32.360

that mannish but it's just like weird

0:47:30.560,0:47:34.820

yeah maybe your external appearance has

0:47:32.360,0:47:37.750

like tells us something about her growth

0:47:34.820,0:47:40.160

yeah I think did you guys know that

0:47:37.750,0:47:41.960

Woody Allen and Diane Keaton used to

0:47:40.160,0:47:44.060

date a few years before they made this

0:47:41.960,0:47:47.720

movie no well you know I just read I

0:47:44.060,0:47:49.520

went into Woody Allen's biography just

0:47:47.720,0:47:52.100

before we started recording and kind of

0:47:49.520,0:47:53.720

went over it and and yeah it took me by

0:47:52.100,0:47:57.290

surprise by the way I also didn't

0:47:53.720,0:47:59.450

mention but it it also took him by

0:47:57.290,0:48:02.410

surprise that that's the I'm kiddin like

0:47:59.450,0:48:04.760

I watched half the movie even more

0:48:02.410,0:48:10.130

before my girlfriend kind of mentioned

0:48:04.760,0:48:11.900

that Diane Keaton that's why she's so

0:48:10.130,0:48:14.350

familiar I wouldn't have recognized her

0:48:11.900,0:48:17.180

and like if I didn't know that before

0:48:14.350,0:48:19.880

but yeah Woody Allen damn kidding they

0:48:17.180,0:48:20.620

used to date and I think the woody said

0:48:19.880,0:48:23.470

that Allah

0:48:20.620,0:48:25.750

in any and Alvis relationship was based

0:48:23.470,0:48:28.090

on his relationship with Keaton and

0:48:25.750,0:48:29.080

there's like a lot of similarities to

0:48:28.090,0:48:32.020

their lives

0:48:29.080,0:48:34.720

he wrote that part basically for her

0:48:32.020,0:48:37.270

yeah Kieran's previous name was Hall

0:48:34.720,0:48:40.330

before she was the anteater huh yeah

0:48:37.270,0:48:41.500

she was born Diane Hall and he was you

0:48:40.330,0:48:43.750

know just to chose a name for the

0:48:41.500,0:48:47.620

character and kitten said that Annie's

0:48:43.750,0:48:49.120

character is not exactly her like a lot

0:48:47.620,0:48:51.220

of the things that the character says or

0:48:49.120,0:48:54.520

does are things that kitten would never

0:48:51.220,0:48:56.620

do but that part was definitely written

0:48:54.520,0:49:00.100

for her and obviously

0:48:56.620,0:49:02.040

Alvy Singer was a lot of it is based on

0:49:00.100,0:49:05.410

what his life what is also from New York

0:49:02.040,0:49:07.240

started as a comedian there's a lot of

0:49:05.410,0:49:08.980

similarities to their life does feel

0:49:07.240,0:49:11.770

very organic there doesn't it yeah it

0:49:08.980,0:49:13.660

doesn't feel like they set out it feels

0:49:11.770,0:49:16.570

weird that it's even in a movie it just

0:49:13.660,0:49:19.480

feels so casual you know it feels so

0:49:16.570,0:49:21.160

like relaxed and that's kind of why I

0:49:19.480,0:49:24.190

enjoyed it I didn't really feel like

0:49:21.160,0:49:27.070

there was much pressure on her and the

0:49:24.190,0:49:29.290

dialogue was just like it felt not like

0:49:27.070,0:49:31.780

a stand-up comedy but just definitely

0:49:29.290,0:49:34.090

felt like it flowed really nicely you

0:49:31.780,0:49:35.620

know angry like I feel I feel like a lot

0:49:34.090,0:49:37.750

of movies nowadays they're just like oh

0:49:35.620,0:49:41.710

well how can we get from seeing a two

0:49:37.750,0:49:44.020

scene be you know and like what what do

0:49:41.710,0:49:46.840

I have to say and then do we add any

0:49:44.020,0:49:48.340

jokes do we add any should a humor what

0:49:46.840,0:49:51.610

would this guy do what would this guy do

0:49:48.340,0:49:54.160

this felt like it was almost improv it

0:49:51.610,0:49:55.720

just felt like let's see how we can

0:49:54.160,0:49:57.580

flesh out our characters in this scene

0:49:55.720,0:49:59.080

and let's see what we can do in this

0:49:57.580,0:50:01.720

scene like there was no sort of like

0:49:59.080,0:50:04.030

direction yeah things naturally evolved

0:50:01.720,0:50:05.890

from one point to another yeah like I

0:50:04.030,0:50:08.460

said I didn't really enjoy the movie the

0:50:05.890,0:50:10.960

first time I watched it but there's no

0:50:08.460,0:50:13.720

avoiding the fact that there's a bunch

0:50:10.960,0:50:16.000

of like very creative ways to tell the

0:50:13.720,0:50:18.310

story you know like and I've seen some

0:50:16.000,0:50:21.400

of them used in later movies but they

0:50:18.310,0:50:24.010

feel very natural here I think the first

0:50:21.400,0:50:26.470

one to mention the first one that kind

0:50:24.010,0:50:29.590

of happens in the movie is the one in

0:50:26.470,0:50:31.300

Elvis class when he's a kid like Alvey

0:50:29.590,0:50:32.500

tells us about his childhood and about

0:50:31.300,0:50:34.060

his time in school

0:50:32.500,0:50:34.299

and he shows us something that happened

0:50:34.060,0:50:36.160

to her

0:50:34.299,0:50:38.319

when that was meaningful to him back

0:50:36.160,0:50:40.420

then I think it was when he kissed that

0:50:38.319,0:50:42.969

girl and that teacher got really angry

0:50:40.420,0:50:44.979

at him and like suddenly it's not a

0:50:42.969,0:50:48.099

flashback anymore suddenly his current

0:50:44.979,0:50:50.469

self current older self is in the scene

0:50:48.099,0:50:52.809

sitting in that chair and he's actually

0:50:50.469,0:50:54.279

talking with the teacher and and you

0:50:52.809,0:50:56.890

know in the other case and he tries to

0:50:54.279,0:50:59.529

explain himself to them I loved it

0:50:56.890,0:51:02.289

because like I I don't think I've seen

0:50:59.529,0:51:05.229

something like that in other movies but

0:51:02.289,0:51:07.239

it's also a very interesting way to tell

0:51:05.229,0:51:10.089

the story because it tells us that he's

0:51:07.239,0:51:13.329

like still bothered by something fairly

0:51:10.089,0:51:15.400

minor that happened like 30-something

0:51:13.329,0:51:17.829

years ago when he was like six or eight

0:51:15.400,0:51:19.869

or whatever he was I think it's a very

0:51:17.829,0:51:21.819

inventive way to tell the story yeah I

0:51:19.869,0:51:24.489

totally agree I think I think it's it's

0:51:21.819,0:51:28.289

an awesome same scene I think that's

0:51:24.489,0:51:31.390

kind of like the Woody Allen magic that

0:51:28.289,0:51:34.059

he can you know the whole thing is that

0:51:31.390,0:51:36.849

there's there's an entire scene about

0:51:34.059,0:51:40.119

sexuality that happens in like a

0:51:36.849,0:51:43.329

classroom like yeah children which is

0:51:40.119,0:51:45.519

kind of weird and also you know future

0:51:43.329,0:51:47.199

Woody Allen if if we would know what

0:51:45.519,0:51:50.559

future Woody Allen would do it probably

0:51:47.199,0:51:53.380

would look a bit even weirder for those

0:51:50.559,0:51:57.339

of you who didn't don't know Woody Allen

0:51:53.380,0:51:57.999

married one of his adopted daughters oh

0:51:57.339,0:52:02.729

really

0:51:57.999,0:52:06.479

yeah it's kind of weird like he married

0:52:02.729,0:52:11.049

forgot her name never mind

0:52:06.479,0:52:14.709

and they had like four or five adopted

0:52:11.049,0:52:18.099

children and he got really close to one

0:52:14.709,0:52:19.239

of them and eventually he divorced he

0:52:18.099,0:52:25.929

divorced his wife and married his

0:52:19.239,0:52:28.599

daughter which is kind of weird a little

0:52:25.929,0:52:30.640

bit because I've heard sort of like some

0:52:28.599,0:52:32.679

not jokes about it but just like

0:52:30.640,0:52:36.249

discussions about it like on other

0:52:32.679,0:52:39.429

podcasts and stuff and yeah he sort of

0:52:36.249,0:52:43.569

got the wrath of this new Hollywood sort

0:52:39.429,0:52:45.969

of like this uncovering of like things

0:52:43.569,0:52:48.220

the Hollywood people do you know like

0:52:45.969,0:52:51.369

notice bad as Harvey Weinstein

0:52:48.220,0:52:53.440

one stain one stone but yeah like in

0:52:51.369,0:52:56.200

that direction at least so it was a bit

0:52:53.440,0:52:58.720

bit creepy but I think as like in

0:52:56.200,0:53:01.540

general I think our show's policy is

0:52:58.720,0:53:04.560

pretty much just focus on the art yeah

0:53:01.540,0:53:06.940

like we did it with Kevin Spacey in

0:53:04.560,0:53:11.050

American Beauty in American Beauty yeah

0:53:06.940,0:53:13.599

so we try not to mention it but we're

0:53:11.050,0:53:16.540

not part of the establishment so you

0:53:13.599,0:53:19.240

don't have to worry yeah I don't know

0:53:16.540,0:53:22.060

like I'm watching the film I concentrate

0:53:19.240,0:53:24.220

on the film well I am interested in

0:53:22.060,0:53:26.470

these kind of things but when I watch a

0:53:24.220,0:53:28.599

movie I watch a movie and that's it I

0:53:26.470,0:53:30.670

don't let these things kind of seep in

0:53:28.599,0:53:34.750

yeah yeah I think that's the that's the

0:53:30.670,0:53:36.550

rule I reckon because one also like

0:53:34.750,0:53:38.440

because if if it turns out like lots of

0:53:36.550,0:53:40.060

people in the 80s do this and all of the

0:53:38.440,0:53:42.130

movies we suddenly like we're gonna have

0:53:40.060,0:53:45.820

to do like some quick course correction

0:53:42.130,0:53:47.770

to pretend we don't like it anymore

0:53:45.820,0:53:49.359

like you've got to a bit like Bruce

0:53:47.770,0:53:51.880

Willis did something bad then I'd have

0:53:49.359,0:53:53.830

to be like die hard or not and I just

0:53:51.880,0:53:55.960

wasn't shot well and yeah you know like

0:53:53.830,0:54:00.400

I'd have to just pretend that I don't

0:53:55.960,0:54:03.550

like it so yeah that is kind of it's

0:54:00.400,0:54:05.230

kind of a dick is that really a remark

0:54:03.550,0:54:09.400

because I I don't know could be right

0:54:05.230,0:54:11.230

yes it's supposed to be a very tough

0:54:09.400,0:54:13.270

person to work with you hear that with a

0:54:11.230,0:54:15.490

few people that Edward Norton apparently

0:54:13.270,0:54:17.320

isn't very nice to work with like it's

0:54:15.490,0:54:20.290

hard to know it's like charming yeah

0:54:17.320,0:54:21.670

apparently part of the reason why I left

0:54:20.290,0:54:23.740

Marvel or something on that but really

0:54:21.670,0:54:26.020

like it's hard to know like some of it's

0:54:23.740,0:54:28.930

just rumors some of its like has a grain

0:54:26.020,0:54:32.230

of truth but it's just like spread like

0:54:28.930,0:54:34.750

far and wide and yeah as long as they

0:54:32.230,0:54:38.230

like a degree of separation like because

0:54:34.750,0:54:39.640

I watch like Woody Allen movies and when

0:54:38.230,0:54:43.330

I said movies I mean just this one

0:54:39.640,0:54:45.580

because like he turns out he's pretty

0:54:43.330,0:54:46.720

good at you know making movies and it's

0:54:45.580,0:54:49.359

it was fun to watch

0:54:46.720,0:54:51.460

I don't watch Woody Allen movies because

0:54:49.359,0:54:53.530

of Willy Woody Allen himself you know

0:54:51.460,0:54:56.200

like if he wasn't a good actor I

0:54:53.530,0:54:59.140

wouldn't watch it so like I might find

0:54:56.200,0:55:01.540

it hard if it was like a stand-up comedy

0:54:59.140,0:55:01.900

where like you really are watching the

0:55:01.540,0:55:03.790

purse

0:55:01.900,0:55:06.190

and yourselves to feel like personal

0:55:03.790,0:55:08.260

connection to that you are yeah the

0:55:06.190,0:55:11.050

actor another character the actor the

0:55:08.260,0:55:12.670

performer yeah then I would feel well I

0:55:11.050,0:55:15.640

feel like I could do that course

0:55:12.670,0:55:18.400

correction where I could pivot and say

0:55:15.640,0:55:18.820

um I don't know how I feel about that it

0:55:18.400,0:55:21.100

wasn't

0:55:18.820,0:55:22.690

I don't really prove what I did and

0:55:21.100,0:55:24.610

therefore I merely get my satisfaction

0:55:22.690,0:55:26.430

out of watching it but when there's even

0:55:24.610,0:55:28.270

like a small degree of separation like

0:55:26.430,0:55:31.240

definitely with movies because you're

0:55:28.270,0:55:32.920

acting I guess it could be with music

0:55:31.240,0:55:35.290

depending like if it was really

0:55:32.920,0:55:37.810

heartfelt music maybe not but I could

0:55:35.290,0:55:41.230

see most music being I could listen to

0:55:37.810,0:55:42.670

no worries and yeah so I guess those are

0:55:41.230,0:55:44.740

the two big ones there's not many big

0:55:42.670,0:55:47.410

stories of like book writers and stuff

0:55:44.740,0:55:52.330

but yeah wait so so Ed Norton who played

0:55:47.410,0:55:54.100

the Hulk was too angry he was too angry

0:55:52.330,0:55:57.400

in order to stay in more in the Marvel

0:55:54.100,0:55:59.830

Universe that's funny it was two

0:55:57.400,0:56:05.590

hallways actually he actually kept on

0:55:59.830,0:56:07.180

getting angry and that was the photo so

0:56:05.590,0:56:09.550

let me give you some more examples of

0:56:07.180,0:56:12.550

interesting story junk techniques

0:56:09.550,0:56:15.250

Woody Allen used in the movie like we

0:56:12.550,0:56:17.680

mentioned before he constantly shatters

0:56:15.250,0:56:20.410

the fourth wall and I think the most

0:56:17.680,0:56:22.210

interesting time he did that is when

0:56:20.410,0:56:24.070

they're waiting in line for the cinema

0:56:22.210,0:56:25.960

and that guy behind him keeps talking

0:56:24.070,0:56:29.140

about films and stuff that Alva is

0:56:25.960,0:56:30.130

intensely annoyed about and he shudders

0:56:29.140,0:56:32.200

a fourth wall

0:56:30.130,0:56:35.290

and it gives us a glimpse kind of inside

0:56:32.200,0:56:37.060

of Elvis mind he dreams of proving to

0:56:35.290,0:56:40.260

the world that he's right even if it's

0:56:37.060,0:56:43.240

the most minor arguments you know or

0:56:40.260,0:56:45.910

when Annie tells Elvia about previous

0:56:43.240,0:56:48.970

guys she dated instead of having her

0:56:45.910,0:56:51.610

tell him about it or showing a flashback

0:56:48.970,0:56:54.400

they do this flashback scene where Annie

0:56:51.610,0:56:56.230

and Alvey actually are walking in like

0:56:54.400,0:56:58.240

you see that the young Annie with the

0:56:56.230,0:57:00.550

guy she used to date and you see Annie

0:56:58.240,0:57:03.340

and lv2 days and and Alvey and they're

0:57:00.550,0:57:06.010

kind of criticizing young Annie it's a

0:57:03.340,0:57:07.510

really interesting way of really fun way

0:57:06.010,0:57:09.640

to quickly show the past of the

0:57:07.510,0:57:11.770

characters you know in telling us how

0:57:09.640,0:57:14.590

today's character think about that you

0:57:11.770,0:57:15.520

know there's the scene where they're on

0:57:14.590,0:57:17.260

the

0:57:15.520,0:57:18.610

and he's building rooftop I think and

0:57:17.260,0:57:20.560

they're talking and they're subtitles

0:57:18.610,0:57:22.900

that show us kind of the underlying

0:57:20.560,0:57:24.310

meanings of what they're saying which is

0:57:22.900,0:57:26.170

an interesting we love that saying yeah

0:57:24.310,0:57:27.790

that was yeah that was the kind of

0:57:26.170,0:57:30.040

brilliant saying not just because of the

0:57:27.790,0:57:31.660

subtitles but the actual like what they

0:57:30.040,0:57:34.930

were saying they could they just kept

0:57:31.660,0:57:36.640

trial like overanalyze and yeah you know

0:57:34.930,0:57:38.620

like they were they were trying to like

0:57:36.640,0:57:40.300

continuously sort of get on the same

0:57:38.620,0:57:42.730

page and they wanted to be on the same

0:57:40.300,0:57:45.970

page but they kept misinterpreting each

0:57:42.730,0:57:48.160

other and like having this like self

0:57:45.970,0:57:49.480

conscious dialogue and yeah that was a

0:57:48.160,0:57:51.490

really cool scene actually I love that

0:57:49.480,0:57:53.050

there's a few more examples but one that

0:57:51.490,0:57:55.000

I really liked is the scene where

0:57:53.050,0:57:57.400

they're you know that this Korean is

0:57:55.000,0:58:00.400

split and you see both of Annie and

0:57:57.400,0:58:02.290

Alvey talking to their analysts and you

0:58:00.400,0:58:04.540

know they both talk about the same

0:58:02.290,0:58:06.700

things but their perspectives are so

0:58:04.540,0:58:10.030

different that like it shows you how the

0:58:06.700,0:58:11.890

gap between them is huge you know it

0:58:10.030,0:58:13.690

lets us see what both of the characters

0:58:11.890,0:58:16.780

are thinking about the same things but I

0:58:13.690,0:58:20.620

think like also in that saying Annie

0:58:16.780,0:58:22.930

sounded really really sensible while

0:58:20.620,0:58:25.720

Elvis sounded paranoid some of these

0:58:22.930,0:58:27.670

sayings have been used many times in

0:58:25.720,0:58:29.380

other things like I know obviously how

0:58:27.670,0:58:32.170

many mothers a big one there how many

0:58:29.380,0:58:33.910

mothers like I show full of these scenes

0:58:32.170,0:58:36.250

like in the same way that community is a

0:58:33.910,0:58:37.870

show full of parodies how many members

0:58:36.250,0:58:40.750

just show you full of scenes like this

0:58:37.870,0:58:43.120

where they do split screens they talk to

0:58:40.750,0:58:46.050

each other in the past they even say

0:58:43.120,0:58:48.220

past Ted fuschia Ted yeah you know and

0:58:46.050,0:58:50.860

stuff like that but yet all of this

0:58:48.220,0:58:53.680

stuff is really kind of break through

0:58:50.860,0:58:55.990

when it's full film in in this time

0:58:53.680,0:58:58.090

there's also the scene where where their

0:58:55.990,0:58:59.440

family is kind of on a split screen but

0:58:58.090,0:59:02.230

their families kind of talk with each

0:58:59.440,0:59:03.880

other and also kind of make the

0:59:02.230,0:59:04.990

differences show I think that's what

0:59:03.880,0:59:06.900

that's kind of what appealed me with

0:59:04.990,0:59:09.070

them with the entire movie it's very

0:59:06.900,0:59:10.630

you've got like very special

0:59:09.070,0:59:12.550

storytelling and like you like you

0:59:10.630,0:59:13.720

called yeah it's very very very

0:59:12.550,0:59:14.320

interesting in that kind of way it's

0:59:13.720,0:59:16.570

very creative

0:59:14.320,0:59:18.940

it's very inventive and like like I said

0:59:16.570,0:59:20.740

even the first time when I didn't enjoy

0:59:18.940,0:59:23.580

the movie I didn't really like it I

0:59:20.740,0:59:25.990

thought that in terms of moviemaking

0:59:23.580,0:59:27.970

really interesting stuff really good

0:59:25.990,0:59:29.450

yeah sorry what you want about it but

0:59:27.970,0:59:31.520

died in copy

0:59:29.450,0:59:34.130

anyone and no one's really being able to

0:59:31.520,0:59:37.220

recreate what they did no I didn't watch

0:59:34.130,0:59:40.190

all the movies but my gut says that

0:59:37.220,0:59:42.260

you're right about that haven't seen all

0:59:40.190,0:59:47.270

the movies yet yet we'll get there

0:59:42.260,0:59:51.109

I feel like Woody Allen no Alvey I

0:59:47.270,0:59:54.770

should say brings this quality of

0:59:51.109,0:59:56.599

stand-up comedians of sort of being a

0:59:54.770,0:59:58.910

philosopher like I feel like a lot of

0:59:56.599,1:00:01.730

stand-up comedians now sort of play the

0:59:58.910,1:00:03.920

role of philosopher where is like the

1:00:01.730,1:00:07.250

1900s year like Camus and all these

1:00:03.920,1:00:09.970

famous philosophers now of course we do

1:00:07.250,1:00:12.589

have some philosophers but like

1:00:09.970,1:00:15.050

philosophy is sort of being overtaken a

1:00:12.589,1:00:17.780

little bit by by science and

1:00:15.050,1:00:19.790

neuroscience and biology and stuff like

1:00:17.780,1:00:22.820

that and we're sort of we're always

1:00:19.790,1:00:24.770

finding new things to talk about new

1:00:22.820,1:00:27.650

thought experiments but I feel like on

1:00:24.770,1:00:29.650

the what would you say like less on the

1:00:27.650,1:00:32.750

analytical side more on just their

1:00:29.650,1:00:36.050

experimental I feel like this is a very

1:00:32.750,1:00:38.089

early sort of sign of like stand-up

1:00:36.050,1:00:40.220

comedians sort of filling that void you

1:00:38.089,1:00:43.579

know like trying to point out the

1:00:40.220,1:00:47.300

absurdities in the way we live and

1:00:43.579,1:00:49.490

trying to bring new insights in and and

1:00:47.300,1:00:51.740

say it really quickly as well not over

1:00:49.490,1:00:54.380

the course of like books just like short

1:00:51.740,1:00:56.920

witty ways to sort of like there are

1:00:54.380,1:01:00.650

sort of thought experiments in a way but

1:00:56.920,1:01:03.260

yeah I just felt like I didn't know that

1:01:00.650,1:01:05.060

was a thing back in the 70s that

1:01:03.260,1:01:06.380

standard comedians were like that I

1:01:05.060,1:01:08.720

thought they were a little bit more like

1:01:06.380,1:01:11.390

dad jokes but it's good to know that it

1:01:08.720,1:01:12.980

it started earlier than then what I

1:01:11.390,1:01:15.230

thought yeah there is something about

1:01:12.980,1:01:17.540

that like comedians are some kind of

1:01:15.230,1:01:19.250

maker you know these kind of thought

1:01:17.540,1:01:21.829

experiments like you said it kind of

1:01:19.250,1:01:23.660

more accessible to the regular person

1:01:21.829,1:01:25.490

yeah it's an interesting way to think

1:01:23.660,1:01:26.869

about it I gotta say that in the last

1:01:25.490,1:01:28.760

episode after watching the first season

1:01:26.869,1:01:30.770

of Flight of the Conchords I wasn't sure

1:01:28.760,1:01:32.089

if I'm going to watch I'm still not sure

1:01:30.770,1:01:34.250

if I'm going to going to watch the

1:01:32.089,1:01:37.550

second season but with this movie it

1:01:34.250,1:01:39.829

kind of like I'm thinking about watching

1:01:37.550,1:01:42.570

other Woody Allen movies I cannot maybe

1:01:39.829,1:01:45.720

wanted to have a bit deeper into into

1:01:42.570,1:01:48.240

narrative and and see if he keeps

1:01:45.720,1:01:51.140

bringing like maybe new concepts of

1:01:48.240,1:01:54.180

storytelling and introduced like similar

1:01:51.140,1:01:55.440

relatable topics I remember that a

1:01:54.180,1:01:56.820

couple of years ago I think I also

1:01:55.440,1:01:58.320

mentioned that at the end of the last

1:01:56.820,1:02:02.160

episode I watched magic in the moonlight

1:01:58.320,1:02:04.620

that also I think he directed it it

1:02:02.160,1:02:06.990

doesn't play in it it was just you know

1:02:04.620,1:02:09.750

charming mm that's all it all a good

1:02:06.990,1:02:12.450

experience from from any hole maybe we

1:02:09.750,1:02:14.670

can maybe we can take them to make some

1:02:12.450,1:02:21.510

more quests about them and then you know

1:02:14.670,1:02:26.850

after visiting Tigerland the next

1:02:21.510,1:02:29.100

takeaway duty to me this movie

1:02:26.850,1:02:31.710

eventually got me to think about myself

1:02:29.100,1:02:33.960

and kind of compare myself to Alvey and

1:02:31.710,1:02:36.840

and think about how I would react in

1:02:33.960,1:02:38.970

similar situations I think that the main

1:02:36.840,1:02:40.470

theme in this movie is one that a lot of

1:02:38.970,1:02:41.790

people deal with in their lives and

1:02:40.470,1:02:44.130

while I don't think most people

1:02:41.790,1:02:46.860

experience it as dramatically or

1:02:44.130,1:02:48.780

intensely as Elvia did I think it's an

1:02:46.860,1:02:51.720

interesting one to talk about like to me

1:02:48.780,1:02:54.210

I look at this movie in three different

1:02:51.720,1:02:56.730

levels the first one is the movie itself

1:02:54.210,1:02:59.340

or like how much fun I had watching it

1:02:56.730,1:03:01.380

which wasn't too much the second is a

1:02:59.340,1:03:03.810

story and you know the meaning behind it

1:03:01.380,1:03:05.700

which I really liked and the third is

1:03:03.810,1:03:08.400

the storytelling techniques used

1:03:05.700,1:03:11.190

throughout the movie because I thought

1:03:08.400,1:03:13.950

they were really fun like watching all

1:03:11.190,1:03:17.340

of the ways that Woody Allen utilizes to

1:03:13.950,1:03:19.770

just tell story I loved it so but I

1:03:17.340,1:03:21.960

don't to me it's kind of a the middle of

1:03:19.770,1:03:24.060

the road kind of film which leans a bit

1:03:21.960,1:03:26.940

toward the good end of the scale I'm

1:03:24.060,1:03:28.770

happy with did this I'm happy we got to

1:03:26.940,1:03:32.370

watch our Woody Allen movie don't know

1:03:28.770,1:03:34.380

if I'll watch this movie soon again well

1:03:32.370,1:03:36.870

if we ever do a sort of some culture

1:03:34.380,1:03:39.060

quest award ceremony or something in the

1:03:36.870,1:03:42.660

future hmm like I feel like this

1:03:39.060,1:03:45.750

wouldn't be a contender because we have

1:03:42.660,1:03:47.400

American Beauty and the one I always

1:03:45.750,1:03:49.560

forget the name of hunt for the older

1:03:47.400,1:03:51.510

people hunt for the world of people yeah

1:03:49.560,1:03:53.610

so yeah this one doesn't really compare

1:03:51.510,1:03:55.910

for me even jaws I kind of preferred

1:03:53.610,1:03:58.250

more than this yeah it was

1:03:55.910,1:04:05.780

it was a nasty experience ouch it's not

1:03:58.250,1:04:09.049

even in the under Peters well the movies

1:04:05.780,1:04:14.690

were down the man on wire in the 2000s

1:04:09.049,1:04:19.069

Annie Hall and jaws 1970s and American

1:04:14.690,1:04:21.260

Beauty late 90s 1998 but the next one we

1:04:19.069,1:04:23.960

will do is something and Nan and me have

1:04:21.260,1:04:25.880

been sort of wanting to watch for a long

1:04:23.960,1:04:30.170

time but we'll do something from the

1:04:25.880,1:04:31.369

early 90s so in 1993 and this is

1:04:30.170,1:04:34.819

Jurassic Park

1:04:31.369,1:04:36.740

so Jurassic Park features is a Steven

1:04:34.819,1:04:40.010

Spielberg so that'll be our second movie

1:04:36.740,1:04:42.289

by Steven Spielberg after George and it

1:04:40.010,1:04:45.920

said its features Sam Neill who's been

1:04:42.289,1:04:48.349

in hunt for the wielder people so we've

1:04:45.920,1:04:51.140

we've familiar with a few things here

1:04:48.349,1:04:53.539

but it also has Laura Dern and Jeff

1:04:51.140,1:04:55.670

Goldblum and this is another one similar

1:04:53.539,1:04:58.670

to jaws and are similar to a lot of

1:04:55.670,1:05:01.579

Steven Spielberg movies where it's just

1:04:58.670,1:05:03.260

a massive cultural gap that we want to

1:05:01.579,1:05:05.089

feel they'll read the plot because I

1:05:03.260,1:05:07.369

actually I know a little bit about it

1:05:05.089,1:05:10.250

but not a lot I think it's mostly to do

1:05:07.369,1:05:13.700

is sort of trying to recreate dinosaurs

1:05:10.250,1:05:16.640

again and obviously what follows but a

1:05:13.700,1:05:19.099

pragmatic paleontologist visiting an

1:05:16.640,1:05:21.920

almost complete theme park is tasked

1:05:19.099,1:05:24.470

with protecting a couple of kids after a

1:05:21.920,1:05:26.839

power failure causes the parks cloned

1:05:24.470,1:05:28.640

dinosaurs to run loose they kind of

1:05:26.839,1:05:30.380

skipped over why they cleaned the

1:05:28.640,1:05:32.059

dinosaurs but that's that's basically

1:05:30.380,1:05:35.630

the description of any movie

1:05:32.059,1:05:38.630

Oh what did when we saw just a you know

1:05:35.630,1:05:43.510

a few guinea pigs flying dinosaur what

1:05:38.630,1:05:47.270

was like donkey clone dinosaurs yes yes

1:05:43.510,1:05:49.190

okay by the way we I can't I can't

1:05:47.270,1:05:52.880

believe we didn't mention Jeff

1:05:49.190,1:05:55.819

Goldblum's cameo oh yeah yeah I didn't

1:05:52.880,1:05:58.670

even recognize him I had to look him up

1:05:55.819,1:06:01.549

and make sure it was him cuz he looks he

1:05:58.670,1:06:03.559

looks different looks jazzy it's just he

1:06:01.549,1:06:04.369

has like five words in the movie but

1:06:03.559,1:06:06.470

they're really funny

1:06:04.369,1:06:08.850

he's calling up is as a therapist or

1:06:06.470,1:06:10.080

whatever remind me what's my mantra

1:06:08.850,1:06:13.260

I wonder if it's a reference to

1:06:10.080,1:06:15.570

something it's a good question other

1:06:13.260,1:06:17.400

than like the fact that it's a kind of a

1:06:15.570,1:06:18.450

monster adventure movie by Steven

1:06:17.400,1:06:21.240

Spielberg

1:06:18.450,1:06:26.520

the score is by John Williams as well

1:06:21.240,1:06:28.800

right he did jaws I think let me okay

1:06:26.520,1:06:30.780

well he not usually checks those things

1:06:28.800,1:06:31.890

before saying so he's no I'm looking at

1:06:30.780,1:06:34.590

it up right now

1:06:31.890,1:06:36.630

yeah so that's another thing John

1:06:34.590,1:06:38.940

Williams did the music both here and in

1:06:36.630,1:06:40.410

Jaws oh that's really cool yeah I'm

1:06:38.940,1:06:42.030

gonna watch this movie you know like any

1:06:40.410,1:06:45.030

other movie I'm gonna try to just enjoy

1:06:42.030,1:06:47.460

it for what it is but I'll definitely

1:06:45.030,1:06:49.620

try to kind of think about similarities

1:06:47.460,1:06:51.300

between this and jaws because we loved a

1:06:49.620,1:06:53.610

lot of things about jaws nothing like

1:06:51.300,1:06:57.060

the way that you don't see the shark and

1:06:53.610,1:06:58.680

it's still scary as hell the music that

1:06:57.060,1:07:01.320

it's it's more adventurous kind of music

1:06:58.680,1:07:03.510

more than it is horror and scary and

1:07:01.320,1:07:05.520

stuff there's a lot of things that we

1:07:03.510,1:07:07.950

loved that I'm gonna try and see if

1:07:05.520,1:07:09.570

they're repeated here because there's

1:07:07.950,1:07:13.800

like 20 years between the movies

1:07:09.570,1:07:15.870

dinosaurs have jaws cool so I'm gonna be

1:07:13.800,1:07:17.790

watching Jurassic Park with my

1:07:15.870,1:07:19.410

girlfriend every time I have to choose

1:07:17.790,1:07:22.140

something for the podcast

1:07:19.410,1:07:23.880

she always whispers in my ear do

1:07:22.140,1:07:26.580

Jurassic Park did your acid part like

1:07:23.880,1:07:31.110

she is so excited about this so I was

1:07:26.580,1:07:34.170

cool I guess I should be too nice he's

1:07:31.110,1:07:36.690

excited to be excited yep I know it's

1:07:34.170,1:07:39.660

Spielberg summer blockbuster which is a

1:07:36.690,1:07:42.030

good thing from early 90s which I love

1:07:39.660,1:07:44.430

movies from the early 90s so there's a

1:07:42.030,1:07:46.740

lot going for it yeah I bet it's going

1:07:44.430,1:07:50.630

to be fun cool stuff cold stuff cool

1:07:46.740,1:07:52.490

stuff okay so thank you Peter alright

1:07:50.630,1:07:55.170

cool

1:07:52.490,1:07:56.940

thank you better thank you very Oh for

1:07:55.170,1:07:58.830

staying true to our goal and thank you

1:07:56.940,1:08:01.320

the listeners at home for helping us

1:07:58.830,1:08:02.880

along the latest stage of our quest we

1:08:01.320,1:08:05.400

hope that you join us again next episode

1:08:02.880,1:08:06.400

and we'll talk to you soon bye bye

1:08:05.400,1:08:10.230

Costa hello

1:08:06.400,1:08:13.570

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it is the we early hours for the morning

1:08:13.570,1:08:19.359

here in Los Angeles but I am still awake

1:08:16.299,1:08:22.270

because I want you to listen to my

1:08:19.359,1:08:24.880

podcast thank you so much to our dear

1:08:22.270,1:08:27.040

friends at the culture quest podcast my

1:08:24.880,1:08:29.410

name is piers I have my co-host max

1:08:27.040,1:08:31.089

who's currently asleep but we have an

1:08:29.410,1:08:32.650

awesome podcast called the secret bunker

1:08:31.089,1:08:34.450

podcast I think you're about to hear a

1:08:32.650,1:08:36.580

promo and if you like it go to our

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website secret on your podcast calm

1:08:36.580,1:08:41.469

that's secret bunker podcast calm but we

1:08:39.339,1:08:42.910

just wanted to go back to our roots just

1:08:41.469,1:08:47.529

a good doggie about it like who were

1:08:42.910,1:08:49.029

some successful podcast returning to we

1:08:47.529,1:08:51.250

still have not posted a single episode

1:08:49.029,1:08:53.350

just the two bros two good friends

1:08:51.250,1:08:54.339

talking about it doesn't really matter

1:08:53.350,1:08:56.710

survivor

1:08:54.339,1:08:59.410

I am binge watching this show like you

1:08:56.710,1:09:01.089

could not believe they make it seem like

1:08:59.410,1:09:02.770

I'm gonna be blind for the rest of this

1:09:01.089,1:09:04.600

season so that we can make fire on the

1:09:02.770,1:09:07.630

first night how do you think he has

1:09:04.600,1:09:09.460

defied age for so long 600 he's giving a

1:09:07.630,1:09:11.770

bit of his soul to the devil the food so

1:09:09.460,1:09:13.120

handsome I watched the first few few

1:09:11.770,1:09:14.469

episodes and then I was like how far are

1:09:13.120,1:09:17.620

you and you're like how long two seasons

1:09:14.469,1:09:21.040

past it this coin heist I don't

1:09:17.620,1:09:22.450

understand why money heist and the name

1:09:21.040,1:09:26.080

of something but you would never hear

1:09:22.450,1:09:30.160

those words in that order grandma like

1:09:26.080,1:09:35.920

as as a burglar like yeah I committed a

1:09:30.160,1:09:38.200

money heist on money perhaps and was

1:09:35.920,1:09:42.210

voted out not strategically purely

1:09:38.200,1:09:42.210

because she defecated in the ocean