Episode Transcript

This has been automatically generated, please forgive any mistakes.

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in this episode of the culture quest we

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enjoy some of our favorite quotes in the

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tavern talk segment our main discussion

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is about the five symphonies that varios

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mom's chosen for us and we finished by

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previewing our next episode which is

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going to be a side quest about the

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Anthropocene

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[Music]

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hello and welcome to the culture quest

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we are but humble adventurers and today

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we bite more than we can chew with me as

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always are Peter hello and Baryo hello

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and I am Ynon thank you the listeners

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at home for taking part in our noble

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quest today we're doing this classical

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music extravaganza well let me tell you

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a quick story that kind of ties in with

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today's subject so as you know we're all

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having this kind of isolation social

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distancing right now due to the Cova 19

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viruses some out there and well I've

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been trying to keep myself fairly busy

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and a few days ago I had a few hours

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with kind of nothing to do so I you know

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without really thinking about it that

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kind of started playing around with

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sending up a stream on YouTube that

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plays podcasts so you know kind of to

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keep you company in a way that's so sad

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so we won't feel so alone make

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background noises it's kind of like

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leaving the TV on when going to sleep

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yeah

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leaving the TV on for a dog I was

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experimenting with setting up with a

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stream and I was testing stuff with them

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our first episode where we introduced

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the podcast and we talked about Mel

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Brooks the producers and you know it was

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running in the background and then I

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noticed that we when we introduced the

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podcast kind of talked about what we're

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going to do we talked about you know

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what kind of things we can talk about on

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the podcast and we said something along

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the lines of I will do music albums

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we'll talk about movies we'll talk about

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books and who knows maybe one day we'll

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do something really cultural and listen

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to classical music well today's that day

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full circle yeah definitely and we'll

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get to that in a little while but before

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we do we like to have ourselves some

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tavern talk

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[Music]

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in this week's tavern talk we've decided

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to talk about favourite quotes we each

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brought a quote to discuss and honestly

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I can't wait to see what you guys chose

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to bring up because we said it could be

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kind of an inspirational quote which

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that it could be a funny quote something

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you'll live by or really anything so

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wants to go first okay first my quote is

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from Daniel Dennett it's anyone know

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Daniel dinner doesn't sound familiar

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he's forceful he's one of the Four

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Horsemen of atheism or something like

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that but des is by far his worst

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appearance I would say he's written so

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many good books that don't ever get

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mentioned but he's only ever mentioned

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as one of the four horsemen so I'm gonna

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I'm going to give a quote from his book

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freedom evolves here it is

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every living thing is from a cosmic

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perspective incredibly lucky simply to

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be alive most 90% or more of all the

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organisms that have ever lived have died

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without viable offspring but not a

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single one of your ancestors going back

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to the dawn of life on earth suffered

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that normal misfortune you spring from

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an unbroken line of winners going back

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millions of generations and those

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winners were in every generation the

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luckiest of the lucky one out of a

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thousand or even a million

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so however unlucky you may be on some

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occasion today your presence on the

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planet testifies to the role Luck has

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played in your past oh yeah beautiful

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yeah it ticks all the boxes it's pretty

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powerful it encapsulates everything to

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do with life and it makes you feel

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pretty good

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so everyone we're so lucky obviously

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like it couldn't not be the case but it

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still sounds interesting like you can

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never say that I yeah my dad never had

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any children that wouldn't make sense

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but you know it still ya actually think

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about oh yeah all my ancestors would

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have had to be the lucky ones so and all

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of their ancestors would have had to

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been lucky ones and so on so it kind of

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makes me think how random it is for you

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know like the three of us living in the

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same time and

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coming together it's like a little

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change somewhere back in time could have

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changed everything like we take it we

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take this for granted but we are kind of

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in a way lucky to be here it is but the

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thing is the people that weren't lucky

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enough can't ever talk about not being

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lucky enough so only the people are

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lucky enough can talk about how lucky

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they are to be lucky enough to be able

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to talk about how lucky they are so yeah

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yeah it's a we like election buyers yeah

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it reminds me I think also a Stephen

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Hawking had a similar approach regarding

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the existence of life in this universe

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because like it requires the smallest

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change in any physical constant in the

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universe will probably make the universe

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just collapse upon itself or or maybe

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just get too big so it will pretty much

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be empty and life could never exist and

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the fact that there is this very

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infinitesimal chance that you'll have

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those constants right is required in

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order to even start asking the question

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about which constants you actually need

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in order to have life sustaining

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universe so it's kind of the same thing

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you need the right condition in order to

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ask the question about the right

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conditions right yeah yeah that's

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exactly right unless unless you

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subscribe to the many-worlds hypothesis

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where a lot of people do actually I

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don't think Dennett does but there's

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Roger Penrose I think it's the most

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famous but pretty much all the possible

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constants would have occurred in the

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multiverse so essentially there would be

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infinite take a few million examples

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where their universes wouldn't have

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formed and then a few however many

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universes had the right conditions to

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form life which obviously you need

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something to be a replicator then those

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few universes can talk about how lucky

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they are but then again it would be

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inevitable if everything was going to

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happen then everything's inevitable so

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it just becomes confusing doesn't it

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yeah but I gotta say it's I think it's

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it's a call a cool way of looking at

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things

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yeah like to understand

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like what you said about the multiverse

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that everything the can or can't happen

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will probably will happen in in the in

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the infinite scale right I've got

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another chord actually which I've only

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just thought of but I was talked about

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on another podcast but and I don't know

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who it's from the quote is how lucky of

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some people to never been born like

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would would that be what one in a

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thousand to be so lucky it's just it's

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just a funny quote cuz it's like to not

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being born it's a hard concept to wrap

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your head around yeah and how do you

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quantify the number of people that

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aren't being born yeah that's the funny

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bit of it I guess yeah where do you want

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to go next

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well a couple of months ago I had I was

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in a in a crossroad of my career where I

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had to to think if I'm staying in my

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current job or maybe taking another leap

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to to start something that's pretty much

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brand new and kind of leaving everything

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behind and part of that question was

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like joining forces with with someone

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that I really I really really do respect

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but but had a couple of issues that I

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came to be aware of from very closely

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and I I was really confused for about

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two weeks or even more but it seemed

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like forever because I changed my mind

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proudly like on an hourly basis so a

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nitch decision would kind of shatter the

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world right it's like I'm leaving

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everything behind I'm starting something

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new no I'm staying here and I'm and I'm

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missing this opportunity and it was very

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very confusing and I think I just I I

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went through Reddit at some point and I

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got to this place of of interesting

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quotes and again there were probably a

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lot of much better ones but one of them

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caught my eye it was to forgive his

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divine but never pay a full price for a

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late pizza

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I really like that one because it's true

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like to forgive is divine you know it's

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a very Christian thing to say but it's

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hard to forgive it's hard to give

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someone another honest opportunity to

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prove to prove himself to believe in

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someone that that once hurt you

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but but but it's kind of stupid to

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ignore to ignore the past like you have

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to you have to take that in mind when

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when doing some decisions I mean that's

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that's the way not to repeat certain

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mistakes and and and oddly enough I

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think that that reading that quote and

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kind of kind of being amused by it in a

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very in a very serious time kind of took

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me on the path that that eventually I

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decided I mean I got the other info

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afterwards about a lot of things but

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eventually I decided not to go after

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that that opportunity but but it amuses

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me how it feels like that code started

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it all all right

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I love quotes that have like an element

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of novelty in it like the pizza part of

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it yeah it's very charming yeah I think

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that's what spoke to me too like there's

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something very very high and mighty with

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to forgive is divine but then you you

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kind of take it to the to the day-to-day

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practical aspects of it and and you're

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not gonna pay full price for a nice

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pizza when you have a big decision to

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make always turn to the pizza yeah

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that's a pretty cool quote like you know

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let go of the bad feelings but don't

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forget like learn from it I like it yeah

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oh cool you know and you're up okay here

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it is if your cucumber is bitter throw

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it away this is a quote but now I'm

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getting so now definitely definitely not

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that is it from Shrek if your sandwich

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is bitter I know but here's my real

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quote it's a quote by Charles Darwin so

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the language is a bit old-fashioned okay

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here it is I had during many years

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followed a golden rule namely that

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whenever a published fact a new

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observation or thought came across me

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which was opposed to my general

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to make a Memorandum of it without fail

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and at once for I had found by

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experience that such facts and thoughts

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were far more apt to escape from the

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memory than favorable ones what do you

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guys think

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I love Charles Darwin also that well

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that's why we built a university or

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named after him and what I mean way

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obviously like not me personally but

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when I Wayne way I mean people I don't

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know and couldn't name a single one of

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it was a team effort no he's he's a he's

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a smart dude as I'm sure there's a

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probably a plaque that says it in that

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building somewhere basically this code

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talks about kind of how biased we are

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towards our own thoughts and beliefs you

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know in a way that we when we were

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represented with new information that

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contradicts our thoughts and beliefs we

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tend to kind of dismiss them you know

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it's really easy to have your opinion

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and ignore everything that goes against

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it it's really about the scientific

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method right

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yeah that's kind of like in the basis of

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it yeah this is the scientific method

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like always you know be open to new

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results to new data to new information

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but I think I think it fits everyday

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life because like you know anything at

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all if someone has a different opinion

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than yours you might find that they have

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a point or you know that you might agree

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with them or with some of their

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arguments and kind of adjust your

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opinion accordingly or if you have a

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certain method of doing something and

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you see some someone doing it

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differently maybe try and learn from it

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you might have proved your own method

0:12:53.389,0:12:57.919

maybe you'll learn something from it and

0:12:54.889,0:13:00.379

on the other hand completely even if

0:12:57.919,0:13:02.720

you're certain that that this new or

0:13:00.379,0:13:03.919

different opinion is just wrong it's

0:13:02.720,0:13:05.419

still important to give it some thought

0:13:03.919,0:13:07.549

and figure out why it's wrong so you

0:13:05.419,0:13:10.069

could you could learn and avoid making

0:13:07.549,0:13:12.019

that mistake down the road or you know

0:13:10.069,0:13:13.970

explain why it's wrong if you're asked I

0:13:12.019,0:13:16.519

think it's like you've said it's

0:13:13.970,0:13:19.459

basically the the scientific method but

0:13:16.519,0:13:20.869

I think everyone can make something out

0:13:19.459,0:13:22.759

of it in their own lives

0:13:20.869,0:13:26.269

all right great yeah I think that quote

0:13:22.759,0:13:29.720

is like well the gist of it at least is

0:13:26.269,0:13:31.939

so important it should be written in a

0:13:29.720,0:13:33.150

lot of places like I think I'm gonna

0:13:31.939,0:13:36.510

print it out and kind of

0:13:33.150,0:13:38.700

you know put it in in my well everyone

0:13:36.510,0:13:40.980

should put it in in their place of work

0:13:38.700,0:13:43.110

where well we all work from home now but

0:13:40.980,0:13:46.350

so print it and put it in your house

0:13:43.110,0:13:50.280

because like once you remember that

0:13:46.350,0:13:52.140

you're prone to to be to be blinded by

0:13:50.280,0:13:54.090

your ego right and then kinda ignore

0:13:52.140,0:13:57.330

yeah that you don't want to want to

0:13:54.090,0:14:00.000

accept then your you'll probably not

0:13:57.330,0:14:03.030

well at least you won't make the best

0:14:00.000,0:14:05.010

choice you you probably not necessarily

0:14:03.030,0:14:07.470

the bad one but you won't make the man

0:14:05.010,0:14:09.570

choice and that's kind of kind of harm

0:14:07.470,0:14:11.730

you and I think that if you add to that

0:14:09.570,0:14:13.350

the fact that Darwin have you know an

0:14:11.730,0:14:15.840

accomplished scientist came up with that

0:14:13.350,0:14:16.500

well it gives it kind of a bit more

0:14:15.840,0:14:18.780

weight

0:14:16.500,0:14:21.030

it shows how universal that quote is the

0:14:18.780,0:14:23.730

fact that he's someone whose writings

0:14:21.030,0:14:26.010

have changed the scientific world and he

0:14:23.730,0:14:27.660

acknowledges that he may be wrong some

0:14:26.010,0:14:31.230

people you know like see themselves as

0:14:27.660,0:14:33.030

an authority and thus they kind of tend

0:14:31.230,0:14:35.220

to think that they know everything but

0:14:33.030,0:14:37.890

no everyone can be wrong everyone can

0:14:35.220,0:14:40.170

learn from something new from up from

0:14:37.890,0:14:42.930

new information I really like this quote

0:14:40.170,0:14:45.210

I like I try to keep it you know in the

0:14:42.930,0:14:47.160

back of my mind at all times and I think

0:14:45.210,0:14:50.520

more people should know about this quote

0:14:47.160,0:14:53.640

and act upon it yeah here you wanna go

0:14:50.520,0:14:55.680

for another quote I do actually and I've

0:14:53.640,0:14:59.310

told you this one before not and you

0:14:55.680,0:15:00.510

know the person who said it that I don't

0:14:59.310,0:15:03.720

I can't remember his name

0:15:00.510,0:15:06.120

okay it goes like this if you're

0:15:03.720,0:15:10.110

flammable and have legs you can never

0:15:06.120,0:15:11.580

block a fire exit who's that bye-bye

0:15:10.110,0:15:13.770

Regina who said that the sentence

0:15:11.580,0:15:15.660

continues as if there was a fire I

0:15:13.770,0:15:17.490

wasn't gonna run away it's really good

0:15:15.660,0:15:20.790

is that Mitch Hedberg

0:15:17.490,0:15:23.400

perfect bio weld I knew it it sounds it

0:15:20.790,0:15:25.620

sounds exactly like his jokes Mitch

0:15:23.400,0:15:28.320

Hedberg is a comedian I think he died

0:15:25.620,0:15:30.690

like 10 or 15 years ago his stand-up

0:15:28.320,0:15:33.510

comedy's basically a lot of one-liners

0:15:30.690,0:15:35.010

like this one and he's the first tenth

0:15:33.510,0:15:37.710

of committee and I ever listened to and

0:15:35.010,0:15:39.810

he really got me into the whole stand-up

0:15:37.710,0:15:41.730

thing like I didn't I've listened to a

0:15:39.810,0:15:44.520

bunch of stand-up comedy and know of the

0:15:41.730,0:15:46.200

material of a few comedians and like he

0:15:44.520,0:15:47.820

was my entry point to stand-up calm

0:15:46.200,0:15:49.950

I haven't really got into him too much

0:15:47.820,0:15:52.350

Yanis III remember I've gone through

0:15:49.950,0:15:53.850

YouTube after you told me about him and

0:15:52.350,0:15:55.800

I kind of enjoyed a lot of his

0:15:53.850,0:15:57.630

one-liners but I liked that one in

0:15:55.800,0:16:00.540

particular because it's like to me it's

0:15:57.630,0:16:02.670

just say exercise your common sense like

0:16:00.540,0:16:05.220

it's often we sort of get into patterns

0:16:02.670,0:16:07.200

and or we get told something by a

0:16:05.220,0:16:10.320

superior or something like that but like

0:16:07.200,0:16:11.940

this is just like just it's usually

0:16:10.320,0:16:13.650

common sense you know like you know if

0:16:11.940,0:16:14.310

someone if someone is blocking the fire

0:16:13.650,0:16:17.340

exit

0:16:14.310,0:16:21.210

you got your you're obviously gonna run

0:16:17.340,0:16:23.630

if there's a fire say yeah it's a bit

0:16:21.210,0:16:26.070

like a rebel against sort of just

0:16:23.630,0:16:27.660

unnecessary red tape you know no

0:16:26.070,0:16:33.810

anything else before I move into the

0:16:27.660,0:16:35.310

main discussion can I do one more we

0:16:33.810,0:16:39.180

could have a whole episode just about

0:16:35.310,0:16:41.700

your quotes Peter the thing is right I

0:16:39.180,0:16:45.660

didn't plan on the second one or the

0:16:41.700,0:16:48.120

third one but you know conversations

0:16:45.660,0:16:50.220

I've actually like I've just stumbled

0:16:48.120,0:16:54.000

upon what I want to say I've got a book

0:16:50.220,0:16:55.920

open actually it's by Mitchell called

0:16:54.000,0:16:57.180

dishonesty is the second best policy and

0:16:55.920,0:17:01.620

other rules to live by

0:16:57.180,0:17:04.440

it's really good I've told you about

0:17:01.620,0:17:07.709

this right you know it's in my to relist

0:17:04.440,0:17:10.110

yeah yeah it's probably it's probably a

0:17:07.709,0:17:12.720

little bit too British centric for most

0:17:10.110,0:17:13.860

people but to be honest like as an

0:17:12.720,0:17:15.930

Australian you're always reading

0:17:13.860,0:17:18.060

American things and you sort of have to

0:17:15.930,0:17:20.250

just get over like the country of origin

0:17:18.060,0:17:21.870

like when I read a British thing I just

0:17:20.250,0:17:23.640

pretend I'm British you know I just

0:17:21.870,0:17:26.670

think yeah well I'll just get it you

0:17:23.640,0:17:28.460

know but yeah there's a lot of great

0:17:26.670,0:17:31.590

stuff from Britain and after the reading

0:17:28.460,0:17:33.420

Douglas Adams I think yeah I think I'm

0:17:31.590,0:17:35.880

gonna be reading a lot of British stuff

0:17:33.420,0:17:38.820

but this is from a chapter in his book

0:17:35.880,0:17:41.310

called a look at some high arts such as

0:17:38.820,0:17:43.110

opera some slightly less high art such

0:17:41.310,0:17:44.940

as photography and some other stuff that

0:17:43.110,0:17:47.670

you may or may not think of as art so

0:17:44.940,0:17:52.020

let's just call them non sciences now

0:17:47.670,0:17:53.880

I'll get to the quote okay it's like a

0:17:52.020,0:17:56.130

bacon sandwich winning the tastiest

0:17:53.880,0:17:58.320

Apple award at a farm show comedies

0:17:56.130,0:18:00.120

honours easily defined as sandwiches and

0:17:58.320,0:18:02.070

apples I'm sure there's some delivery

0:18:00.120,0:18:04.320

humor in the Martian so maybe that means

0:18:02.070,0:18:06.420

it's a comedy and the award after all is

0:18:04.320,0:18:08.430

for best company not funniest comedy

0:18:06.420,0:18:10.200

maybe after that funny stuff in the

0:18:08.430,0:18:12.570

other films made the Hollywood Foreign

0:18:10.200,0:18:14.460

Press Association filled cheap but all

0:18:12.570,0:18:16.170

these problems stem from trying to

0:18:14.460,0:18:20.010

divide things into meaningful groups

0:18:16.170,0:18:22.530

sports calls to prayers comedy tragedies

0:18:20.010,0:18:24.180

films YouTube clips what is a call to

0:18:22.530,0:18:26.580

prayer but a noisy sport without a

0:18:24.180,0:18:28.710

scoring system what is a drama but in an

0:18:26.580,0:18:31.350

unbelievably long comedy without any

0:18:28.710,0:18:33.060

jokes what is a awards ceremony but a

0:18:31.350,0:18:35.310

strange and inefficient distribution

0:18:33.060,0:18:37.320

system for vulgar knickknacks well some

0:18:35.310,0:18:39.390

would say it's a comedy some a drama

0:18:37.320,0:18:42.150

some with what all the getting up and

0:18:39.390,0:18:44.370

and down a sport it's certainly a called

0:18:42.150,0:18:46.380

a prayer for many nominees a spoon is

0:18:44.370,0:18:49.200

just an ineffective fork with a single

0:18:46.380,0:18:50.730

blunted tine a fork is just a spoon with

0:18:49.200,0:18:52.980

annoying holes that inhibits soup

0:18:50.730,0:18:55.350

consumption what is a soup with a liquid

0:18:52.980,0:18:57.990

mousse in his and a steak and chips it's

0:18:55.350,0:19:00.240

a very hearty lumpy consomme or a hot

0:18:57.990,0:19:02.730

and greasy weapon or a work of Modern

0:19:00.240,0:19:05.820

Art or a weirdly meaty non-dairy cheese

0:19:02.730,0:19:08.400

so the big question I posed does the big

0:19:05.820,0:19:10.470

question I posed have an answer no but

0:19:08.400,0:19:19.500

actually no is an answer and a word and

0:19:10.470,0:19:21.750

I think well okay so I've gotten the

0:19:19.500,0:19:23.970

audio book on audible which I've

0:19:21.750,0:19:26.070

listened to a hundred times and then

0:19:23.970,0:19:27.480

I've got the physical book which I

0:19:26.070,0:19:29.430

always bring to work because it's just

0:19:27.480,0:19:31.290

nice if you've had a bad day you can

0:19:29.430,0:19:33.150

just read it at lunch and then I've got

0:19:31.290,0:19:37.140

it on the Kindle because well I'm just a

0:19:33.150,0:19:39.120

psychopath now say yeah we can go into

0:19:37.140,0:19:43.860

the main discussion or maybe just stick

0:19:39.120,0:19:45.510

with some more chords a bit better say

0:19:43.860,0:19:47.760

you know what Twitter if you fit during

0:19:45.510,0:19:50.010

the main section if you feel the need to

0:19:47.760,0:19:52.310

bring any more quotes regarding what we

0:19:50.010,0:19:54.000

talked about feel free yeah just stop us

0:19:52.310,0:20:00.780

thanks guys

0:19:54.000,0:20:02.040

never needed permission but then I have

0:20:00.780,0:20:03.570

to stop being the really smart

0:20:02.040,0:20:04.880

intellectual one sir

0:20:03.570,0:20:11.920

Oh

0:20:04.880,0:20:15.680

[Music]

0:20:11.920,0:20:18.920

so in the past two weeks we've been

0:20:15.680,0:20:21.110

listening to my mom's five top

0:20:18.920,0:20:24.260

symphonies and we were preparing this

0:20:21.110,0:20:26.900

amazing very intriguing episode about

0:20:24.260,0:20:29.060

classical music from different composers

0:20:26.900,0:20:32.780

from from well pretty much the same time

0:20:29.060,0:20:36.050

but but like something that will pretty

0:20:32.780,0:20:38.510

much blow your mind and the truth is is

0:20:36.050,0:20:42.080

that it would have a little bit more

0:20:38.510,0:20:45.200

than we can chew yep yeah we all had the

0:20:42.080,0:20:48.260

feeling that were not really equipped to

0:20:45.200,0:20:50.570

handle something in the magnitude of a

0:20:48.260,0:20:53.090

musical classical symphony

0:20:50.570,0:20:55.730

I hope that some of you like heard maybe

0:20:53.090,0:20:59.260

some before listening listening to this

0:20:55.730,0:21:01.910

and unless you're probably very

0:20:59.260,0:21:03.980

professional in your in your musical

0:21:01.910,0:21:07.670

knowledge you probably felt kind of like

0:21:03.980,0:21:10.340

us where it's amazing it's beautiful

0:21:07.670,0:21:12.740

it's overwhelming and you're not

0:21:10.340,0:21:16.370

entirely sure what to make of it because

0:21:12.740,0:21:19.130

it's so complicated it's so in it's so

0:21:16.370,0:21:23.290

full of emotions that it's pretty much

0:21:19.130,0:21:26.720

hard to analyze in well we do have some

0:21:23.290,0:21:27.920

some knowledge but this is like two

0:21:26.720,0:21:30.530

steps

0:21:27.920,0:21:32.990

well thousand steps pretty much ahead of

0:21:30.530,0:21:35.510

us I think he can't just say we're

0:21:32.990,0:21:37.550

unenlightened yeah yeah you know from

0:21:35.510,0:21:39.560

all our episodes the preparation for

0:21:37.550,0:21:43.360

this one kind of made me realized how

0:21:39.560,0:21:46.460

much uncultured I am I am because I

0:21:43.360,0:21:48.680

really kind of lacked the tools to to

0:21:46.460,0:21:51.920

fully understand it and even when I

0:21:48.680,0:21:55.010

started to read about the different

0:21:51.920,0:21:57.170

symphonies I was like oh yeah that's

0:21:55.010,0:21:59.540

just right I can relate to that I

0:21:57.170,0:22:01.790

understand that but I would in a million

0:21:59.540,0:22:01.970

years well at least you know how I feel

0:22:01.790,0:22:04.100

now

0:22:01.970,0:22:06.860

could have guessed could have guessed

0:22:04.100,0:22:08.660

that that interpretation I think the way

0:22:06.860,0:22:10.280

I see it you know because we don't

0:22:08.660,0:22:12.230

listen to classical music and we're not

0:22:10.280,0:22:14.860

experts or you know we're not even very

0:22:12.230,0:22:17.780

familiar with classical music it's like

0:22:14.860,0:22:20.390

listening to a story told in another

0:22:17.780,0:22:22.460

language like you can hear the tonality

0:22:20.390,0:22:24.500

of the words you can hear the kind of

0:22:22.460,0:22:26.510

the mood of the speaker

0:22:24.500,0:22:28.460

you can make the the story out you can

0:22:26.510,0:22:30.970

make the moral

0:22:28.460,0:22:32.150

out of it you know it's it's just

0:22:30.970,0:22:34.880

overwhelming

0:22:32.150,0:22:37.960

each Symphony is big each Symphony has a

0:22:34.880,0:22:40.460

lot in it and just to process it is

0:22:37.960,0:22:41.840

extremely hard and that's why I don't

0:22:40.460,0:22:44.270

know when I was reading about the

0:22:41.840,0:22:46.490

symphonies you always see how they

0:22:44.270,0:22:48.380

always mention how people reacted after

0:22:46.490,0:22:49.940

the symphony premiered after it was

0:22:48.380,0:22:52.400

played for the first time and I'm

0:22:49.940,0:22:55.550

thinking to myself how can they form

0:22:52.400,0:22:57.620

opinions of it so quickly it takes a few

0:22:55.550,0:23:00.500

lessons to just know what to expect to

0:22:57.620,0:23:04.100

hear you know like I think that the main

0:23:00.500,0:23:05.780

gist of the of the piece is kinda it's

0:23:04.100,0:23:08.780

kind of there like it takes you through

0:23:05.780,0:23:10.910

different stages like all of them they

0:23:08.780,0:23:14.060

got like different chapters and each one

0:23:10.910,0:23:16.280

kind of tells something else and I think

0:23:14.060,0:23:19.100

that when you're talking about the main

0:23:16.280,0:23:21.620

theme like what that chapter tries to

0:23:19.100,0:23:23.450

tell you it's kind of its kind of there

0:23:21.620,0:23:26.480

in the open like you can understand and

0:23:23.450,0:23:28.370

the main plot well it's it may be hard

0:23:26.480,0:23:30.890

to follow but like for each given moment

0:23:28.370,0:23:32.960

you understand what what they're telling

0:23:30.890,0:23:35.090

you but I don't know what I felt most of

0:23:32.960,0:23:37.400

the time is that I'm kind of missing

0:23:35.090,0:23:39.410

everything else like that that's the

0:23:37.400,0:23:42.320

only thing only things that I that I can

0:23:39.410,0:23:44.060

get my grasp on okay now I know it's

0:23:42.320,0:23:47.090

we're escaping something it's really

0:23:44.060,0:23:49.910

rhythmic and I hear the drums behind me

0:23:47.090,0:23:52.310

and there's violins that kind of opened

0:23:49.910,0:23:54.590

the way up ahead and and that that was

0:23:52.310,0:23:57.440

kind of the feeling that I got but

0:23:54.590,0:24:01.670

around that there were so many motives

0:23:57.440,0:24:03.860

that I felt that I'm not able to even

0:24:01.670,0:24:06.200

start on understanding and appreciating

0:24:03.860,0:24:09.020

it's kind of like looking at the movie

0:24:06.200,0:24:12.110

and missing all the these small

0:24:09.020,0:24:13.940

references the small emerges sometimes

0:24:12.110,0:24:16.400

maybe even like main plot points yeah

0:24:13.940,0:24:19.340

yeah like a lot of maybe hints that

0:24:16.400,0:24:21.020

cannot point towards the other parts of

0:24:19.340,0:24:23.990

the movie and those are the things that

0:24:21.020,0:24:26.480

that make you appreciate a piece yeah as

0:24:23.990,0:24:28.730

a whole like the genius of it because

0:24:26.480,0:24:30.770

you understand it's not only the thing

0:24:28.730,0:24:33.710

that that sits in plain sight but it's

0:24:30.770,0:24:36.920

something much much deeper and had a lot

0:24:33.710,0:24:38.300

of thought put into it yeah exactly

0:24:36.920,0:24:40.400

what did you think Peter how

0:24:38.300,0:24:42.440

how was your experience listen to

0:24:40.400,0:24:44.960

classical music for the last couple of

0:24:42.440,0:24:46.760

weeks well when I said it to my friends

0:24:44.960,0:24:48.710

actually they were like oh you're

0:24:46.760,0:24:50.660

dreading this one ie our third no

0:24:48.710,0:24:54.530

because I'd already listen to them all

0:24:50.660,0:24:56.600

just like once through and it was just

0:24:54.530,0:24:59.570

like I had them on when I was just

0:24:56.600,0:25:02.030

sitting at my desk and it's so sort of

0:24:59.570,0:25:03.830

it's very atmospheric when you're

0:25:02.030,0:25:06.380

listening to classic music like when

0:25:03.830,0:25:08.750

you're listening to regular like hip hop

0:25:06.380,0:25:11.810

or classic rock or something like that

0:25:08.750,0:25:14.810

it's just it's just a song really but

0:25:11.810,0:25:16.910

this really puts you in a mood more than

0:25:14.810,0:25:18.350

a lot of other songs like other songs

0:25:16.910,0:25:19.970

when I'm listening to like Led Zeppelin

0:25:18.350,0:25:22.430

or something like that which they're a

0:25:19.970,0:25:24.920

great band I'm listening to them and I

0:25:22.430,0:25:26.650

kind of the the vibe where the song sort

0:25:24.920,0:25:30.860

of rubs off on me a little bit but

0:25:26.650,0:25:33.110

classical music in my experience just

0:25:30.860,0:25:35.780

whatever was on at that point that was

0:25:33.110,0:25:38.840

the mood surfers listening to are we

0:25:35.780,0:25:43.640

calling him do Rock let's check this out

0:25:38.840,0:25:47.680

Wayne antonín dvorák antonín dvorák to

0:25:43.640,0:25:50.360

forge a divorce oh boy okay any chance

0:25:47.680,0:25:54.400

we're gonna cut out my first attempt

0:25:50.360,0:25:54.400

[Laughter]

0:25:55.180,0:26:00.200

yeah okay all right so when I was

0:25:58.520,0:26:02.750

listening to like Dvorak was something

0:26:00.200,0:26:04.520

that I really felt like I was in the

0:26:02.750,0:26:05.930

grips of like an action movie or

0:26:04.520,0:26:08.300

something like that you know I felt like

0:26:05.930,0:26:10.070

sometimes I would just be like doing

0:26:08.300,0:26:11.870

basic work or something like that

0:26:10.070,0:26:14.180

scrolling reddit or something I'm like

0:26:11.870,0:26:18.850

wow this is intense isn't it like this

0:26:14.180,0:26:18.850

is like I felt like I was sweating and

0:26:18.910,0:26:23.720

but I would never get that from an

0:26:21.350,0:26:25.160

intense rock song never get that and the

0:26:23.720,0:26:26.420

thing is like I don't know how famous

0:26:25.160,0:26:29.600

these people are and I obviously

0:26:26.420,0:26:31.520

Beethoven is well-known but I'm not

0:26:29.600,0:26:35.060

really familiar with the others so this

0:26:31.520,0:26:37.580

is sort of like a first dip like toe in

0:26:35.060,0:26:40.100

the water for me so I'd love to sort of

0:26:37.580,0:26:42.800

once we do these I'd love to eventually

0:26:40.100,0:26:44.330

do like maybe classical music version

0:26:42.800,0:26:46.970

two and we do another five and

0:26:44.330,0:26:48.770

eventually we sort of have like a bit of

0:26:46.970,0:26:51.020

a series where we kind of build them up

0:26:48.770,0:26:52.140

because I feel like I've had such a good

0:26:51.020,0:26:54.120

time yet I

0:26:52.140,0:26:56.190

they dip my toe in the water and I've

0:26:54.120,0:26:58.230

had such a good time say there's lots

0:26:56.190,0:27:01.320

more out there I'm sure yeah cool

0:26:58.230,0:27:03.590

I found myself I can listen to a bunch

0:27:01.320,0:27:06.530

of music when I'm working so I listen to

0:27:03.590,0:27:09.810

sometimes two or three symphonies a day

0:27:06.530,0:27:12.630

off of the this list that we've compiled

0:27:09.810,0:27:16.310

and you know some of them are more

0:27:12.630,0:27:18.600

accessible and catchy than others but

0:27:16.310,0:27:20.940

the thing that helped me the most was

0:27:18.600,0:27:23.040

that I already have some experience with

0:27:20.940,0:27:25.260

classical music like Beethoven's fifth

0:27:23.040,0:27:28.110

and Dvorak ninth the New World Symphony

0:27:25.260,0:27:30.330

both were on our list are two that I've

0:27:28.110,0:27:32.190

I was already pretty familiar with them

0:27:30.330,0:27:33.480

and kind of I could have recognized each

0:27:32.190,0:27:35.580

and every part of them each and every

0:27:33.480,0:27:37.950

movement of them without the rest of

0:27:35.580,0:27:41.250

them the other three so culture didn't

0:27:37.950,0:27:43.410

Pera well when I was I don't know like

0:27:41.250,0:27:44.970

ten years ago and listened to I started

0:27:43.410,0:27:47.190

listening to classical music and I got

0:27:44.970,0:27:49.440

myself a book it's called music and

0:27:47.190,0:27:51.750

appreciation and it goes over kind of

0:27:49.440,0:27:54.270

all the periods of Arts like um it

0:27:51.750,0:27:57.330

starts with medieval music and then it

0:27:54.270,0:27:59.700

goes into barak and then classical and

0:27:57.330,0:28:02.100

then romantic and then modern and

0:27:59.700,0:28:03.900

postmodern and world music and it kind

0:28:02.100,0:28:05.340

of tells you what to listen with each

0:28:03.900,0:28:07.140

and every one and it shows you examples

0:28:05.340,0:28:08.910

and kind of what's the difference

0:28:07.140,0:28:09.660

between the different periods and stuff

0:28:08.910,0:28:12.420

that's awesome

0:28:09.660,0:28:14.550

yeah so I've some some experience but

0:28:12.420,0:28:16.590

even with that I'll talk about it a

0:28:14.550,0:28:18.660

little later when we talk specifically

0:28:16.590,0:28:21.120

about each one its Symphony but some of

0:28:18.660,0:28:22.430

them just didn't click for me okay

0:28:21.120,0:28:26.870

Baird you want to go over the list of

0:28:22.430,0:28:31.590

symphonies we've been listening to the

0:28:26.870,0:28:35.640

symphonies that my mom recommended we'll

0:28:31.590,0:28:38.040

start with with Brahms third it was

0:28:35.640,0:28:40.830

composed in 1883 it was part of the

0:28:38.040,0:28:43.410

Romantic period it's not the longest one

0:28:40.830,0:28:48.630

it's it's it's one of the shorter ones

0:28:43.410,0:28:50.460

almost nice the New World Symphony it's

0:28:48.630,0:28:50.910

called the new world or from the new

0:28:50.460,0:28:53.720

world

0:28:50.910,0:28:57.840

yeah that's and names it's known by from

0:28:53.720,0:29:00.930

1893 again in the Romantic period then

0:28:57.840,0:29:04.640

there's mothers first that he composed

0:29:00.930,0:29:09.890

between 1887 to 1888

0:29:04.640,0:29:11.990

again in the Roman Imperial we got we

0:29:09.890,0:29:17.600

got better than fifth probably one of

0:29:11.990,0:29:19.520

the most familiar and it yeah that's the

0:29:17.600,0:29:23.630

oldest symphony we've been listening to

0:29:19.520,0:29:36.830

yeah from it was composed between 1804

0:29:23.630,0:29:38.600

to 1800 817 oh - to 1904 the end of the

0:29:36.830,0:29:41.510

Romantic period at the beginning of the

0:29:38.600,0:29:44.720

modern period let's go let's start with

0:29:41.510,0:29:46.250

barrio what's out of these 5 what would

0:29:44.720,0:29:51.200

you rank is number 5 the one you've

0:29:46.250,0:29:54.620

connected to the least well it's a bit

0:29:51.200,0:29:57.560

hard and I'm not completely agreeing

0:29:54.620,0:29:59.810

with myself but I think I mean I loved

0:29:57.560,0:30:03.470

all of them I think all of them were

0:29:59.810,0:30:06.980

brilliant I think I got the list related

0:30:03.470,0:30:09.380

to Sibelius 2nd and that's probably

0:30:06.980,0:30:12.050

because I I didn't hear it as much

0:30:09.380,0:30:15.170

because I had this playlist that I made

0:30:12.050,0:30:18.710

in Super the second is at the end so I

0:30:15.170,0:30:20.870

heard it the least probably it helped

0:30:18.710,0:30:23.270

also because I kind of have like a very

0:30:20.870,0:30:24.710

different vibe from from the rest there

0:30:23.270,0:30:26.780

what about you what would you rank is

0:30:24.710,0:30:30.260

number 5 my number 5

0:30:26.780,0:30:33.590

well all of mine were close but they're

0:30:30.260,0:30:36.320

only close between like 4th and 3rd and

0:30:33.590,0:30:38.630

4th 2nd or 3rd 1st and 2nd like if I

0:30:36.320,0:30:43.880

compare number one to number 5 it's it's

0:30:38.630,0:30:47.240

a no competition so my number 5 was also

0:30:43.880,0:30:51.470

Sibelius is second and it's interesting

0:30:47.240,0:30:54.830

the reason why I put it last was I still

0:30:51.470,0:30:58.640

enjoyed it but only only I liked it I

0:30:54.830,0:31:00.710

didn't love it and it didn't feel as let

0:30:58.640,0:31:03.830

me say it didn't feel as thumb attic as

0:31:00.710,0:31:06.770

some of the others I felt it was it was

0:31:03.830,0:31:09.740

broken like the theme sort of shifted a

0:31:06.770,0:31:12.530

little bit in a few parts and I couldn't

0:31:09.740,0:31:15.140

really get like the narrative that was

0:31:12.530,0:31:18.020

present in at least the first hurry and

0:31:15.140,0:31:21.110

the fourth had I would say

0:31:18.020,0:31:22.910

more of our definitive feel to it then

0:31:21.110,0:31:25.750

Sibelius I don't know if it was because

0:31:22.910,0:31:28.670

it's one of the later ones but I

0:31:25.750,0:31:31.130

probably wouldn't listen to this too

0:31:28.670,0:31:33.440

often and because of that obviously I

0:31:31.130,0:31:35.600

listen to my favorites more often and

0:31:33.440,0:31:37.850

this one was sort of yeah at the bottom

0:31:35.600,0:31:40.100

of the list and I didn't didn't get into

0:31:37.850,0:31:44.630

it as much so that was my number 5 yeah

0:31:40.100,0:31:46.120

ok cool my number five is Sibelius

0:31:44.630,0:31:50.060

second Wow

0:31:46.120,0:31:51.770

I kind of agree with you guys I like you

0:31:50.060,0:31:53.840

said Peter and I'll listen to the ones I

0:31:51.770,0:31:57.460

liked more more than the others

0:31:53.840,0:31:59.810

but I tried to pick Sibelius 2nd up more

0:31:57.460,0:32:01.220

near the end of these two a couple of

0:31:59.810,0:32:02.960

weeks because I wanted to give it a fair

0:32:01.220,0:32:05.540

chance and it's definitely beautiful

0:32:02.960,0:32:08.060

like when I sat and listened to it with

0:32:05.540,0:32:10.850

no distractions and I definitely enjoyed

0:32:08.060,0:32:12.440

it but it kind of didn't catch my

0:32:10.850,0:32:14.720

attention as much as the others like

0:32:12.440,0:32:17.570

there was last tune to hold on to with

0:32:14.720,0:32:21.110

this one I liked it but I still think

0:32:17.570,0:32:24.380

it's the one I out of this 5 ranked at

0:32:21.110,0:32:26.570

the bottom let's see if we keep this

0:32:24.380,0:32:28.880

consistency up if we choose the exact

0:32:26.570,0:32:32.630

same list by oh what's your number for

0:32:28.880,0:32:35.300

my number for and again I I I really

0:32:32.630,0:32:38.930

liked it but just because I have I have

0:32:35.300,0:32:42.050

to rank his mother's first I think it

0:32:38.930,0:32:46.100

was brilliant I really like the the

0:32:42.050,0:32:47.780

violins there I don't know I don't

0:32:46.100,0:32:50.510

really have anything bad to say about it

0:32:47.780,0:32:52.790

just like if I look at the other at the

0:32:50.510,0:33:00.080

other three I just like them better yeah

0:32:52.790,0:33:04.900

Peter my fourth was malice fest this is

0:33:00.080,0:33:07.280

incredible actually I just felt like it

0:33:04.900,0:33:09.410

had more than narrative which I didn't

0:33:07.280,0:33:11.870

get from Sibelius but it wasn't as

0:33:09.410,0:33:15.830

powerful as the other three to me yeah

0:33:11.870,0:33:17.600

it just it really lacked power Sibelius

0:33:15.830,0:33:19.370

actually probably had more Drive in it I

0:33:17.600,0:33:22.360

felt like there was some moments which

0:33:19.370,0:33:25.520

were really nice and Sibelius whereas

0:33:22.360,0:33:28.940

mail was more consistent but it was it

0:33:25.520,0:33:30.269

was it just didn't really hook me in

0:33:28.940,0:33:34.769

yeah

0:33:30.269,0:33:36.509

my number four is Muller's first and

0:33:34.769,0:33:39.269

actually fitter you you described

0:33:36.509,0:33:42.149

exactly my feelings like I really like

0:33:39.269,0:33:44.729

this one it's beautiful it's just not as

0:33:42.149,0:33:47.099

powerful as the next three it's not as

0:33:44.729,0:33:49.289

like the next three are just exciting

0:33:47.099,0:33:50.669

yeah and uh do you mind if I play a

0:33:49.289,0:33:52.950

couple of some samples from this show

0:33:50.669,0:33:55.019

yeah I don't know maybe the thing I

0:33:52.950,0:33:57.809

liked the most about this is the first

0:33:55.019,0:34:00.029

movement which builds up very slowly but

0:33:57.809,0:34:02.579

beautifully and it's like it's worth

0:34:00.029,0:34:04.440

your patience because like after a few

0:34:02.579,0:34:06.059

minutes I don't really maybe four or

0:34:04.440,0:34:09.720

five I don't remember how many minutes

0:34:06.059,0:34:12.610

but it becomes very lively and fun like

0:34:09.720,0:34:37.170

here's here's a sound clip

0:34:12.610,0:34:39.990

[Music]

0:34:37.170,0:34:42.700

it feels like dancing art violence

0:34:39.990,0:34:44.380

beautiful very cohesive isn't it really

0:34:42.700,0:34:47.260

is nothing bad to say about this one

0:34:44.380,0:34:49.480

cool bio what's your number three my

0:34:47.260,0:34:52.210

number three is Beth Vince fifth maybe

0:34:49.480,0:34:56.920

now it will make the podcast stop being

0:34:52.210,0:34:58.950

so boring by agreeing my number three is

0:34:56.920,0:35:02.200

the better friend safe

0:34:58.950,0:35:06.580

it's it's amazing it's powerful it's

0:35:02.200,0:35:09.670

it's it's really it really gets you but

0:35:06.580,0:35:12.610

I'm I was also kind of familiar with it

0:35:09.670,0:35:14.920

and but like Beth of and fifth is is

0:35:12.610,0:35:16.600

just you know is it's it's kind of like

0:35:14.920,0:35:18.560

Meryl Streep it's it's it's not

0:35:16.600,0:35:22.320

surprising that it's not it's so good

0:35:18.560,0:35:25.990

[Laughter]

0:35:22.320,0:35:27.730

that's amazing so so yeah it's just the

0:35:25.990,0:35:29.170

number three yeah cool Peter what's

0:35:27.730,0:35:31.180

yours er what's your number three well

0:35:29.170,0:35:34.600

I'll say the fourth and fifth were solid

0:35:31.180,0:35:40.000

likes but these top three of loves light

0:35:34.600,0:35:44.880

I really love these ones and my third

0:35:40.000,0:35:47.530

was Dvorak ninth new world sympathy so

0:35:44.880,0:35:50.200

not the same as the barrios is not the

0:35:47.530,0:35:55.120

same a barrier hallelujah were surprised

0:35:50.200,0:35:57.460

okay cool the vortex 9th really reminded

0:35:55.120,0:36:00.460

me of sort of like an action film had

0:35:57.460,0:36:03.760

sort of elements of like a Batman chase

0:36:00.460,0:36:07.120

going on and what I really liked was it

0:36:03.760,0:36:09.100

sort of it built up over time and it

0:36:07.120,0:36:12.460

just became more intense more intense

0:36:09.100,0:36:16.780

and there was repeating elements that

0:36:12.460,0:36:19.120

kind of came up in sort of subtle subtly

0:36:16.780,0:36:23.140

different instruments that were yeah

0:36:19.120,0:36:25.570

sort of repeating and this was really

0:36:23.140,0:36:29.350

enjoyable I didn't I didn't really hook

0:36:25.570,0:36:31.090

on to it at first but after a few

0:36:29.350,0:36:33.430

listens he should get the hang of it a

0:36:31.090,0:36:35.590

little bit and and you sort of know what

0:36:33.430,0:36:38.890

to expect and then it gets better so

0:36:35.590,0:36:41.440

that was number three yeah you know the

0:36:38.890,0:36:43.450

the verse acts ninth you can really hear

0:36:41.440,0:36:45.790

the themes repeating especially I think

0:36:43.450,0:36:47.650

in the fourth movement you hear a lot of

0:36:45.790,0:36:48.680

the earlier things from the first second

0:36:47.650,0:36:50.630

and third movement

0:36:48.680,0:36:53.720

repeating sometimes in a different key

0:36:50.630,0:36:56.839

like from minor to major or vice versa

0:36:53.720,0:36:59.270

and sometimes on different instruments

0:36:56.839,0:37:03.980

and like in different contexts and it's

0:36:59.270,0:37:07.010

just very nice beautiful well my number

0:37:03.980,0:37:09.230

3 I'll talk about Beethoven's 5th and

0:37:07.010,0:37:12.530

Dvorak 9th some more later because my

0:37:09.230,0:37:14.839

number three is Bram's third which I

0:37:12.530,0:37:16.339

think this we haven't agreed on number

0:37:14.839,0:37:19.339

three at all yeah because now it will

0:37:16.339,0:37:21.710

become interesting for the two best yeah

0:37:19.339,0:37:24.260

I thought Brahms three was you know

0:37:21.710,0:37:27.200

exciting it had this feeling of longing

0:37:24.260,0:37:29.420

that always kind of yeah I just love I

0:37:27.200,0:37:31.970

love this kind of feeling I really like

0:37:29.420,0:37:34.880

this symphony but what stood out to me

0:37:31.970,0:37:37.760

and I'll keep listening to is the third

0:37:34.880,0:37:40.660

movement which I'm gonna play just the

0:37:37.760,0:38:04.030

21st seconds or so

0:37:40.660,0:38:06.220

[Music]

0:38:04.030,0:38:09.760

I think this was the best part of the

0:38:06.220,0:38:12.340

symphony it's a bit sad it's haunting it

0:38:09.760,0:38:14.230

makes me think of castles in winter

0:38:12.340,0:38:15.490

that's the words that come to my mind

0:38:14.230,0:38:18.130

when I'm trying to capture the feeling

0:38:15.490,0:38:20.050

that this gives me it reminds me of kind

0:38:18.130,0:38:22.630

of the the beauty and the beast' and

0:38:20.050,0:38:25.210

maybe older Disney feel and it also

0:38:22.630,0:38:26.020

really reminded me a lot of one of my

0:38:25.210,0:38:28.450

favorite albums

0:38:26.020,0:38:30.400

it's called dusk and her embrace by a

0:38:28.450,0:38:33.880

band called Cradle of Filth which is a

0:38:30.400,0:38:36.760

metal band which most of their albums

0:38:33.880,0:38:39.160

are met but I've really loved this one

0:38:36.760,0:38:41.230

album it's very melodic has kind of the

0:38:39.160,0:38:43.180

same feeling of longing that this

0:38:41.230,0:38:46.120

Symphony has and I don't know that the

0:38:43.180,0:38:48.280

whole symphony is amazing but this third

0:38:46.120,0:38:50.260

movement is just I know just a step

0:38:48.280,0:38:54.340

above the rest if you like it so much

0:38:50.260,0:38:56.260

why is it your number three and on just

0:38:54.340,0:39:00.070

wait what he has to say about the number

0:38:56.260,0:39:04.530

two yeah number two by oh what's your

0:39:00.070,0:39:08.920

number to my number two is the Dvorak

0:39:04.530,0:39:11.890

New World Symphony the way it's building

0:39:08.920,0:39:16.630

maybe you know it maybe also depends on

0:39:11.890,0:39:20.380

on the actual listening session I had

0:39:16.630,0:39:23.230

with it but I was I was able to be very

0:39:20.380,0:39:28.210

into it like I don't really deep into it

0:39:23.230,0:39:30.700

and and I really felt on a journey right

0:39:28.210,0:39:35.470

I felt that it took me to a new world

0:39:30.700,0:39:37.360

right yeah so I just I just loved it you

0:39:35.470,0:39:39.970

know what like I'm trying that's what I

0:39:37.360,0:39:43.150

said at the beginning I'm trying to like

0:39:39.970,0:39:45.760

describe what I loved about it like the

0:39:43.150,0:39:49.030

parts and how it made me feel but I

0:39:45.760,0:39:51.850

don't have the I don't have the ways to

0:39:49.030,0:39:53.440

to express to express it that's very

0:39:51.850,0:39:56.530

frustrating I don't I don't I don't feel

0:39:53.440,0:40:00.220

like I have this restriction in any it

0:39:56.530,0:40:01.950

well at least not in any common subject

0:40:00.220,0:40:05.680

that that I have in my life and that's

0:40:01.950,0:40:07.540

weird like it makes me don't don't don't

0:40:05.680,0:40:10.350

use words barrio express your feelings

0:40:07.540,0:40:13.060

with dance in the song

0:40:10.350,0:40:14.860

but but you know that's that's the cool

0:40:13.060,0:40:17.440

thing about about this culture quest

0:40:14.860,0:40:20.770

because I want to develop the tools to

0:40:17.440,0:40:25.630

express what those make me feel here

0:40:20.770,0:40:28.240

number two my number two is Brahms third

0:40:25.630,0:40:30.040

and I totally agree with everything he

0:40:28.240,0:40:34.030

said you did a good summary but it's

0:40:30.040,0:40:37.780

it's it's not to be long shorts wait but

0:40:34.030,0:40:40.030

this one is probably even more so than

0:40:37.780,0:40:43.510

my number one which you'll be able to

0:40:40.030,0:40:45.300

figure out by the laws of deduction it

0:40:43.510,0:40:46.470

actually brought out probably more

0:40:45.300,0:40:48.670

imagery

0:40:46.470,0:40:49.870

whereas number one brought out more

0:40:48.670,0:40:53.410

emotion this one brought out more

0:40:49.870,0:40:56.080

imagery for me and it really reminded me

0:40:53.410,0:40:59.800

of sort of like a panoramic drone

0:40:56.080,0:41:03.460

footage of a of a abandoned islands and

0:40:59.800,0:41:06.310

being really cold in winter and and I

0:41:03.460,0:41:08.110

think it's is probably used in films and

0:41:06.310,0:41:10.960

stuff but it definitely reminded me of

0:41:08.110,0:41:13.870

sort of a opening scene way or like

0:41:10.960,0:41:16.720

setting the panoramic image of like an

0:41:13.870,0:41:19.750

abandoned sort of Island mmm cool yeah

0:41:16.720,0:41:22.180

mmm my second was Beethoven's fifth

0:41:19.750,0:41:23.860

which you know not like you guys said

0:41:22.180,0:41:26.290

what is there to say about the symphony

0:41:23.860,0:41:35.530

it's I think it slaps it's it's total

0:41:26.290,0:41:41.680

fine if you think it's safe today you to

0:41:35.530,0:41:49.720

say that cocks live man Scott's life is

0:41:41.680,0:41:52.390

totally okay I think it's second for me

0:41:49.720,0:41:53.740

I think this top two places were kind of

0:41:52.390,0:41:56.770

conserved for these two symphonies

0:41:53.740,0:41:59.020

because like I just knew them better so

0:41:56.770,0:42:02.050

it was easy for me to kind of you know

0:41:59.020,0:42:04.150

dig deeper into them to kind of find the

0:42:02.050,0:42:04.960

themes in them a little bit easier I

0:42:04.150,0:42:06.610

don't know I

0:42:04.960,0:42:08.140

you know Beethoven's fifth I think the

0:42:06.610,0:42:10.150

first movement the one that everyone

0:42:08.140,0:42:10.630

knows is just amazing awesome use of

0:42:10.150,0:42:12.880

horns

0:42:10.630,0:42:16.750

I think the second movement is quieter

0:42:12.880,0:42:18.250

and calmer it has this big nest it's you

0:42:16.750,0:42:20.770

know it's it's it's the calm and quiet

0:42:18.250,0:42:22.299

movement in the symphony but it has the

0:42:20.770,0:42:23.799

feeling of importance

0:42:22.299,0:42:26.410

I can't describe it any better than that

0:42:23.799,0:42:28.119

in the third and fourth movements you

0:42:26.410,0:42:30.219

know they're almost is one in my mind

0:42:28.119,0:42:33.039

because the third flows into the fourth

0:42:30.219,0:42:35.469

there's no clear separation between them

0:42:33.039,0:42:38.170

and it's just a piece of I don't I think

0:42:35.469,0:42:40.599

twenty minutes of music that's starts

0:42:38.170,0:42:41.890

really dramatic and then it becomes epic

0:42:40.599,0:42:43.869

you know the Fourth Movement

0:42:41.890,0:42:46.660

specifically kind of sounds like a John

0:42:43.869,0:42:48.849

Williams score which I don't know you

0:42:46.660,0:42:50.650

can interpret it any way that you like

0:42:48.849,0:42:52.539

some people might say it's not a good

0:42:50.650,0:42:55.689

thing but never mind now let me play a

0:42:52.539,0:42:57.630

clip that kind of just the first few

0:42:55.689,0:43:00.339

seconds of the fourth movement which

0:42:57.630,0:43:02.019

it's it's not doing it right because you

0:43:00.339,0:43:05.840

have to hear it with a third movement

0:43:02.019,0:43:21.850

but what are you gonna do here you go

0:43:05.840,0:43:25.550

[Music]

0:43:21.850,0:43:27.440

it feels victorious it feels awesome I

0:43:25.550,0:43:29.600

can't listen to it without throwing my

0:43:27.440,0:43:32.690

fists up in here you know I love it i

0:43:29.600,0:43:34.760

it's it's so big it's so big oh my god

0:43:32.690,0:43:38.830

Becky oh my god Becky look at her

0:43:34.760,0:43:38.830

Symphony it's so big

0:43:39.190,0:43:45.830

okay um Mario now reveal your number one

0:43:42.740,0:43:49.460

even though like yeah but for all the

0:43:45.830,0:43:53.120

listeners that aren't following so my

0:43:49.460,0:43:57.380

number one is brands third which isn't

0:43:53.120,0:44:01.880

yours but brands third is a symphony

0:43:57.380,0:44:04.850

that talks to inner part part of me I

0:44:01.880,0:44:06.380

think like as I told you this always

0:44:04.850,0:44:08.060

come from my mother and I think Brahms

0:44:06.380,0:44:09.620

third is probably one of her favorite

0:44:08.060,0:44:11.450

because it was number one

0:44:09.620,0:44:14.420

like when she gave me those symphonies

0:44:11.450,0:44:16.550

this was the first one sheshe came up

0:44:14.420,0:44:20.240

with so I think it's one of her favorite

0:44:16.550,0:44:23.000

too and hence it's kind of been playing

0:44:20.240,0:44:25.160

at my house my entire childhood and yeah

0:44:23.000,0:44:27.770

so listening to this but really

0:44:25.160,0:44:31.750

listening to this and like diving a bit

0:44:27.770,0:44:35.540

deeper I know it made a lot of things

0:44:31.750,0:44:39.260

float like if the the New World Symphony

0:44:35.540,0:44:39.980

kind of took me on a journey to too far

0:44:39.260,0:44:43.760

places

0:44:39.980,0:44:47.150

Bram's third kinda took me in kind of

0:44:43.760,0:44:48.980

made me feel a bit other stuff and that

0:44:47.150,0:44:51.530

was very very interesting and also when

0:44:48.980,0:44:53.810

I went in and read about Bram's he also

0:44:51.530,0:44:55.970

have a a very interesting story that

0:44:53.810,0:44:59.240

maybe not that interesting to discuss

0:44:55.970,0:45:01.730

here but a cool thing is that usually

0:44:59.240,0:45:07.370

apparently brands as a model in his

0:45:01.730,0:45:09.410

symphonies like f AF fry a bell for yeah

0:45:07.370,0:45:11.660

you read about it it really it really

0:45:09.410,0:45:15.350

spoke to me it was so it's so nice

0:45:11.660,0:45:18.710

Bram's had a friend named Joseph Joe him

0:45:15.350,0:45:22.460

something like that Joakim yeah he had

0:45:18.710,0:45:25.700

the combination of f AE which kind of

0:45:22.460,0:45:29.029

stood for fry a bur ein Sam which means

0:45:25.700,0:45:31.969

free but lonely in German German yeah

0:45:29.029,0:45:36.079

and and a lot of people said that Bram's

0:45:31.969,0:45:39.709

mode of faf is is a fry-up er FRA that

0:45:36.079,0:45:42.169

means free but happy and Bram's was a

0:45:39.709,0:45:44.809

single man throughout his life and and

0:45:42.169,0:45:46.699

he kind of made this brilliant creation

0:45:44.809,0:45:49.939

and in a lot of them

0:45:46.699,0:45:52.459

the motive was kind of like I'm free but

0:45:49.939,0:45:55.369

I'm happy in this in in Bram's

0:45:52.459,0:46:00.169

third it's a bit different because it's

0:45:55.369,0:46:03.619

like F a flat F and it kind of gives

0:46:00.169,0:46:06.279

this whole notion of free but happy this

0:46:03.619,0:46:10.609

really subtle question mark of

0:46:06.279,0:46:15.159

insecurity and I found it like very

0:46:10.609,0:46:19.099

subtle very delicate expression of this

0:46:15.159,0:46:22.459

this really relatable emotion and I

0:46:19.099,0:46:26.749

found I found it wonderful like F a flat

0:46:22.459,0:46:28.869

f that's F minor scale yeah and minor is

0:46:26.749,0:46:32.239

not usually a minor scale is not usually

0:46:28.869,0:46:33.949

connected with being happy so it's it's

0:46:32.239,0:46:37.159

an interesting story I liked it oh yeah

0:46:33.949,0:46:39.979

bidder number one Peter all right my

0:46:37.159,0:46:44.630

number one was a little bit predictable

0:46:39.979,0:46:47.900

but it is Beethoven's fifth so I would

0:46:44.630,0:46:49.880

say this the second movement I'm okay

0:46:47.900,0:46:52.400

with but the first third and fourth I

0:46:49.880,0:46:54.559

just stand outs to me they're my

0:46:52.400,0:46:57.589

favorite movements of all of mums

0:46:54.559,0:47:01.039

classics and I don't know why but the

0:46:57.589,0:47:03.169

first movement reminded me of oompa

0:47:01.039,0:47:06.109

loompa oh why does it remind me of

0:47:03.169,0:47:07.789

olympus I don't I'm not making it claim

0:47:06.109,0:47:09.619

that it's from a movie or anything like

0:47:07.789,0:47:13.429

that but it just happens that sort of

0:47:09.619,0:47:17.269

quirky feel you know it's interesting I

0:47:13.429,0:47:21.229

did it and it kind of goes like a little

0:47:17.269,0:47:23.539

bit lighter and it's very expressive and

0:47:21.229,0:47:26.599

it sort of has like a psychedelic feel

0:47:23.539,0:47:30.380

as well towards towards the end of it

0:47:26.599,0:47:33.169

and it's just very catchy it's very

0:47:30.380,0:47:35.719

catchy for a classic classical music Wow

0:47:33.169,0:47:38.509

yeah pace and yeah it's a little bit

0:47:35.719,0:47:41.989

predictable but it's it's good for a

0:47:38.509,0:47:42.890

reason and as a person it hasn't ever

0:47:41.989,0:47:45.319

listened to it

0:47:42.890,0:47:48.829

its entirety only knew some of the hooks

0:47:45.319,0:47:50.599

is something I'll actually continue to

0:47:48.829,0:47:53.539

listen to which I wouldn't have

0:47:50.599,0:47:55.039

predicted out of this episode and it's

0:47:53.539,0:47:58.940

coming interested to see what else he's

0:47:55.039,0:48:01.849

got you needs to repertoire so that's

0:47:58.940,0:48:03.829

why it's wine number one and I realized

0:48:01.849,0:48:05.809

that we all agreed on our fourth and

0:48:03.829,0:48:08.000

fifth but every single one of our third

0:48:05.809,0:48:11.059

second and first rankings are different

0:48:08.000,0:48:13.490

yeah it is about the fifth symphony

0:48:11.059,0:48:15.079

everyone kind of goes you know when you

0:48:13.490,0:48:16.700

bring it up everyone says oh yeah the

0:48:15.079,0:48:18.890

fifth symphony dah dah dah dah

0:48:16.700,0:48:21.890

but there's so much more to it than that

0:48:18.890,0:48:24.650

so much more um and my first is the

0:48:21.890,0:48:27.170

vortex 9 New World Symphony I don't know

0:48:24.650,0:48:29.809

it just sounds to me like it's the most

0:48:27.170,0:48:32.329

catchy one or a most accessible one

0:48:29.809,0:48:34.910

which you know I always say catchy music

0:48:32.329,0:48:37.460

is not necessarily the best but I don't

0:48:34.910,0:48:39.710

know here with you know classical music

0:48:37.460,0:48:42.799

which is a bit more overwhelming this

0:48:39.710,0:48:44.299

being catchy kind of helped me I think I

0:48:42.799,0:48:46.700

don't know I think that's why I placed

0:48:44.299,0:48:49.089

it in number one but I think each and

0:48:46.700,0:48:51.799

every movement in this Symphony is just

0:48:49.089,0:48:54.349

wonderful you know like I can say that

0:48:51.799,0:48:56.599

also about Beethoven's fifth but but

0:48:54.349,0:48:57.980

here I think it's more pronounced you

0:48:56.599,0:48:59.960

know the first movement takes

0:48:57.980,0:49:02.720

I don't like three minutes to build up

0:48:59.960,0:49:05.599

but then it explodes and it becomes kind

0:49:02.720,0:49:08.299

of grand and dramatic but easy it's it's

0:49:05.599,0:49:11.720

an easy melody to pick up so I think

0:49:08.299,0:49:13.339

it's very accessible for for like new

0:49:11.720,0:49:14.869

listeners and the second movement I

0:49:13.339,0:49:16.880

think is where you can really hear the

0:49:14.869,0:49:19.789

American folk music influences because

0:49:16.880,0:49:21.200

the projects was travelling I think he

0:49:19.789,0:49:24.589

was in America for like three or four

0:49:21.200,0:49:26.930

years and that's where he kind of got to

0:49:24.589,0:49:29.000

know a bunch of American music and I

0:49:26.930,0:49:30.799

think you can really hear it in the main

0:49:29.000,0:49:32.509

theme of the second movement which I'm

0:49:30.799,0:49:35.089

gonna play in a second it always reminds

0:49:32.509,0:49:36.920

me of something that could play in the

0:49:35.089,0:49:38.720

background of a Civil War documentary or

0:49:36.920,0:49:41.000

kind of what I expect little house in

0:49:38.720,0:49:42.829

the Prairie to sound like which I mean

0:49:41.000,0:49:44.240

it in the most positive way by the way I

0:49:42.829,0:49:47.539

don't know what Little House on the

0:49:44.240,0:49:49.130

Prairie really is so I may be off but

0:49:47.539,0:49:50.640

here it is the theme from the second

0:49:49.130,0:50:16.559

movement

0:49:50.640,0:50:19.329

[Music]

0:50:16.559,0:50:21.730

continuing to the third and fourth I

0:50:19.329,0:50:24.069

think each of them has just a bunch of

0:50:21.730,0:50:26.859

hooks a bunch of themes that you can

0:50:24.069,0:50:28.779

easily discern and like we said earlier

0:50:26.859,0:50:31.599

they play a bunch of themes from

0:50:28.779,0:50:33.640

previous movements and this is another

0:50:31.599,0:50:35.049

symphony that I already knew I used to

0:50:33.640,0:50:37.839

listen to it a lot in high school when I

0:50:35.049,0:50:40.690

was studying for tests that also gave it

0:50:37.839,0:50:43.150

kind of a leg up but it surprised me

0:50:40.690,0:50:45.789

that it took the first place for me I

0:50:43.150,0:50:48.009

knew that I liked it but I never liked

0:50:45.789,0:50:49.990

it too much but now I just said and

0:50:48.009,0:50:51.910

listen to it and every time I just like

0:50:49.990,0:50:54.759

had to stop whatever I was doing and

0:50:51.910,0:50:57.279

just enjoy it you know I just played it

0:50:54.759,0:50:59.319

close my eyes and it it's just wonderful

0:50:57.279,0:51:01.269

I think definitely amazing it definitely

0:50:59.319,0:51:03.160

gets bigger and bigger with every

0:51:01.269,0:51:08.710

movement I thought that one yeah it

0:51:03.160,0:51:11.319

slaps I can definitely say that like

0:51:08.710,0:51:12.730

listening to two classical music in the

0:51:11.319,0:51:14.589

last couple of weeks it kind of

0:51:12.730,0:51:16.390

refreshed my eagerness to listen to new

0:51:14.589,0:51:18.369

music have you felt this the same way I

0:51:16.390,0:51:20.289

did actually only recently in the last

0:51:18.369,0:51:22.240

couple of days but recently I've been

0:51:20.289,0:51:24.369

listening to lots of sort of albums from

0:51:22.240,0:51:25.960

artists that I've only only generally

0:51:24.369,0:51:27.640

like one or two songs from I've just

0:51:25.960,0:51:29.769

been listening to full albums after

0:51:27.640,0:51:31.569

getting into this huh yeah has it's been

0:51:29.769,0:51:33.250

a bit of a shake-up for me yeah I don't

0:51:31.569,0:51:35.920

know if it's because you know kind of a

0:51:33.250,0:51:37.240

change of scenery or whatever you know

0:51:35.920,0:51:39.670

just listening to something that's

0:51:37.240,0:51:41.650

completely different this really really

0:51:39.670,0:51:45.099

making me feel refreshed I listen to a

0:51:41.650,0:51:45.670

bunch of new music and I guess right no

0:51:45.099,0:51:47.740

not only

0:51:45.670,0:51:49.630

know there must be some reason why we

0:51:47.740,0:51:51.400

sort of go for me new music and

0:51:49.630,0:51:53.259

sometimes what we don't like because

0:51:51.400,0:51:55.450

when you're listening to new music it's

0:51:53.259,0:51:56.559

a bit of a risk you know like because

0:51:55.450,0:51:58.710

you have the choice of listening to

0:51:56.559,0:52:00.670

something you already know you like or

0:51:58.710,0:52:03.009

something that you don't know anything

0:52:00.670,0:52:06.009

about or know less now than what you

0:52:03.009,0:52:08.319

obviously like already and I don't know

0:52:06.009,0:52:10.150

why but there's something that switches

0:52:08.319,0:52:13.269

on and off for me like some months I'll

0:52:10.150,0:52:14.980

listen to new artists every day and then

0:52:13.269,0:52:17.500

some months it'll just be one artist

0:52:14.980,0:52:19.779

literally for three months I can listen

0:52:17.500,0:52:21.460

to one artist if I like them enough I

0:52:19.779,0:52:23.319

think it's just you get kind of fatigued

0:52:21.460,0:52:26.410

but listen to music it's it's tiring

0:52:23.319,0:52:29.140

does you know it is hiring yes but then

0:52:26.410,0:52:31.630

like sinking into the familiar

0:52:29.140,0:52:34.869

it's kind of hard to get out of its a

0:52:31.630,0:52:37.029

situation that it's easy to sink into so

0:52:34.869,0:52:39.519

when you try to force yourself to listen

0:52:37.029,0:52:41.890

to new things like we did with classical

0:52:39.519,0:52:43.930

music now it kind of to me it makes me

0:52:41.890,0:52:47.319

feel refreshed I go and explore some

0:52:43.930,0:52:49.630

more something I didn't like about this

0:52:47.319,0:52:52.119

last couple of weeks listening to a

0:52:49.630,0:52:53.829

bunch of classical music's is that I've

0:52:52.119,0:52:55.930

never I don't know if you guys

0:52:53.829,0:52:58.029

experienced that but I've never heard so

0:52:55.930,0:53:01.150

many recordings of people coughing in my

0:52:58.029,0:53:02.710

life why um because when you look at

0:53:01.150,0:53:04.450

videos of orchestras playing the

0:53:02.710,0:53:06.700

symphonies in front of an audience on

0:53:04.450,0:53:08.829

YouTube there's always going to be this

0:53:06.700,0:53:10.990

distinct coughing sound and after you

0:53:08.829,0:53:12.940

hear it you can't unnoticed all of the

0:53:10.990,0:53:14.680

coughs and other noises from the crowd

0:53:12.940,0:53:17.200

like I've listened to a bunch of the

0:53:14.680,0:53:19.779

symphonies and I've looked for different

0:53:17.200,0:53:21.940

versions of it because every conductor

0:53:19.779,0:53:24.910

does it a little different like there's

0:53:21.940,0:53:27.339

a version of the fifth symphony by

0:53:24.910,0:53:30.339

Beethoven that I've listened to a couple

0:53:27.339,0:53:32.829

of days ago I think and they just played

0:53:30.339,0:53:35.500

the third and fourth movement a little

0:53:32.829,0:53:37.960

too fast and it lost all the feeling I

0:53:35.500,0:53:39.940

thought so I always try to listen to

0:53:37.960,0:53:41.980

different versions of it to see what

0:53:39.940,0:53:44.289

works what what maybe brings out the

0:53:41.980,0:53:46.509

feelings the most and when you listen to

0:53:44.289,0:53:49.539

two orchestras playing the symphonies in

0:53:46.509,0:53:51.579

front of a live audience you get so much

0:53:49.539,0:53:53.769

coughing from the crowd like between

0:53:51.579,0:53:56.980

movements people don't clap you know to

0:53:53.769,0:53:58.599

not throw off the flow of the music if

0:53:56.980,0:54:00.819

you've ever been to a live symphony a

0:53:58.599,0:54:03.009

live orchestra playing you'll you'll

0:54:00.819,0:54:05.589

know that they you don't clap between

0:54:03.009,0:54:08.650

movements but people do allow themselves

0:54:05.589,0:54:10.960

to cough so the the movement ends and

0:54:08.650,0:54:13.210

instead of collapse you get like a wave

0:54:10.960,0:54:15.759

of coughing it sounds like the crowd has

0:54:13.210,0:54:17.980

the plague or something it's such a

0:54:15.759,0:54:21.009

weird experience I think a couple of

0:54:17.980,0:54:24.039

interesting things to mention our first

0:54:21.009,0:54:26.920

how much those you know those pieces

0:54:24.039,0:54:29.589

that we heard and other classical pieces

0:54:26.920,0:54:32.019

affect today's today's music because

0:54:29.589,0:54:34.269

like there were a lot of parts in in

0:54:32.019,0:54:36.819

those symphonies that you kind of say oh

0:54:34.269,0:54:39.670

wow that that sounds like Superman's

0:54:36.819,0:54:42.350

intro or Indiana Jones or you know one

0:54:39.670,0:54:45.440

of one of those big

0:54:42.350,0:54:47.390

with with those very well-known themes I

0:54:45.440,0:54:50.210

think there's a like the fourth movement

0:54:47.390,0:54:52.160

in Beethoven's fifth sounds like a movie

0:54:50.210,0:54:55.160

score which I've mentioned before and I

0:54:52.160,0:54:57.950

think there's a few minutes in Devore

0:54:55.160,0:55:00.590

Jack's either second or third movement

0:54:57.950,0:55:04.670

which just sound like that you can just

0:55:00.590,0:55:06.740

put them in a star wars I totally agree

0:55:04.670,0:55:09.380

I said they could fit in a Batman sort

0:55:06.740,0:55:12.350

of film like a Batman Batman chase yeah

0:55:09.380,0:55:15.350

delivery delivery the darker points

0:55:12.350,0:55:18.200

another interesting thing I think is is

0:55:15.350,0:55:22.040

why do you think that we all agreed on

0:55:18.200,0:55:25.000

number on the fifth and number four but

0:55:22.040,0:55:27.920

had a completely different opening trio

0:55:25.000,0:55:29.960

all right okay we're all sort of on the

0:55:27.920,0:55:32.210

same page so I feel like we all kind of

0:55:29.960,0:55:36.440

we rank them very similarly in the fact

0:55:32.210,0:55:39.020

that like if like devote Dvorak Brom and

0:55:36.440,0:55:41.810

Beethoven they were all in our top three

0:55:39.020,0:55:43.850

it's not like one of us hated and one of

0:55:41.810,0:55:46.130

us loved them so I feel like we're sort

0:55:43.850,0:55:48.620

of just ranking the bottom two as they

0:55:46.130,0:55:50.180

were I kind of feel like we're in

0:55:48.620,0:55:52.310

agreement so I don't think there's that

0:55:50.180,0:55:55.420

much different disagreement but I think

0:55:52.310,0:55:58.760

to me I ranked mine on just how much

0:55:55.420,0:56:02.180

imagery and emotion it could have pulled

0:55:58.760,0:56:05.510

out of me and obviously like it had a

0:56:02.180,0:56:07.520

bit of a bias towards how much I I I

0:56:05.510,0:56:10.280

listened to them so it had a bit of a

0:56:07.520,0:56:13.610

like a whiff of how catchy it was like

0:56:10.280,0:56:16.340

obviously the more catchier ones yeah I

0:56:13.610,0:56:19.370

listen to you more but I feel like it

0:56:16.340,0:56:22.220

comes down to how directly they

0:56:19.370,0:56:25.100

connected to sort of an emotional colour

0:56:22.220,0:56:27.290

almost what do you guys think it's it's

0:56:25.100,0:56:31.040

like the ones that were a little bit

0:56:27.290,0:56:33.830

more catchy kind of popped to all of us

0:56:31.040,0:56:36.080

which is funny because Muller is one is

0:56:33.830,0:56:38.690

I think at least the first movement and

0:56:36.080,0:56:42.350

the second movement also our very catchy

0:56:38.690,0:56:44.480

but I know maybe they just maybe we all

0:56:42.350,0:56:47.720

just don't feel it as much as we felt

0:56:44.480,0:56:49.670

the the three the top three because we

0:56:47.720,0:56:52.280

all agree that there wasn't one symphony

0:56:49.670,0:56:54.770

here that was boring or not good you

0:56:52.280,0:56:56.140

know like I think Graham's Beethoven's

0:56:54.770,0:56:58.870

and Dvorak

0:56:56.140,0:57:00.880

were a little bit more catchy a little

0:56:58.870,0:57:04.270

bit more accessible a little bit more

0:57:00.880,0:57:06.780

easy on the ear maybe it serves their

0:57:04.270,0:57:10.450

feelings and themes a little bit more

0:57:06.780,0:57:13.180

efficiently so we we think that we both

0:57:10.450,0:57:15.700

picked our top three because they were

0:57:13.180,0:57:18.220

more catchy but why do you think we

0:57:15.700,0:57:20.530

chose differently I mean was it just

0:57:18.220,0:57:24.010

random by chance or so that's what I

0:57:20.530,0:57:26.500

think I think the top three we all of us

0:57:24.010,0:57:28.030

as non experienced classical music

0:57:26.500,0:57:31.210

listeners thought were a bit more catchy

0:57:28.030,0:57:34.330

so we gave them more airtime if you will

0:57:31.210,0:57:36.400

and then it's kind of separated by

0:57:34.330,0:57:38.260

personal preferences because like we'll

0:57:36.400,0:57:40.810

listen to these three more than the

0:57:38.260,0:57:42.790

others maybe if you give these five

0:57:40.810,0:57:45.280

symphonies to someone who already kind

0:57:42.790,0:57:48.610

of knows classical music or maybe even

0:57:45.280,0:57:51.580

an expert maybe maybe the ones that we

0:57:48.610,0:57:54.190

took as top three would be bottom three

0:57:51.580,0:57:56.770

you know because maybe maybe they don't

0:57:54.190,0:57:59.470

rank things by how much they are catchy

0:57:56.770,0:58:01.480

as we did yeah I agree I think like I'm

0:57:59.470,0:58:03.640

sort of on the same page it's unknown

0:58:01.480,0:58:05.200

here where I say the bottom two were

0:58:03.640,0:58:06.790

always going to be the bottom two for me

0:58:05.200,0:58:09.640

and the top three were always going to

0:58:06.790,0:58:11.590

be the top three it's just if I had to

0:58:09.640,0:58:14.140

shuffle anything around it would be the

0:58:11.590,0:58:16.930

top three within themselves so there was

0:58:14.140,0:58:18.580

no way Marla was going to be in the top

0:58:16.930,0:58:21.610

three no way Sibelius was going to be in

0:58:18.580,0:58:24.160

the top three but I could easily see me

0:58:21.610,0:58:26.380

listening to them more and see Dvorak

0:58:24.160,0:58:29.290

was my favorite or Braun was my favorite

0:58:26.380,0:58:31.630

I could easily say that I think I think

0:58:29.290,0:58:33.280

it really was like the catchiness got

0:58:31.630,0:58:37.110

the foot in the door and then after that

0:58:33.280,0:58:40.120

was with with Barry oh it was more about

0:58:37.110,0:58:44.380

his obviously personal connection to it

0:58:40.120,0:58:47.470

for me it was more to do with how sort

0:58:44.380,0:58:50.740

of memorable the movements were and

0:58:47.470,0:58:56.920

Barrio you just went with how loud you

0:58:50.740,0:58:59.440

are playing them well actually with

0:58:56.920,0:59:01.960

yours barrier I feel like the divorce

0:58:59.440,0:59:03.760

axe actually was the loudest in the end

0:59:01.960,0:59:06.010

like it was as you said like sort of

0:59:03.760,0:59:09.760

like a Star Wars theme at the end and

0:59:06.010,0:59:12.640

also your second was Beethoven which was

0:59:09.760,0:59:14.140

quite big and then bronze riches a

0:59:12.640,0:59:16.420

little bit more sort of like a subtle

0:59:14.140,0:59:19.600

feel so I feel like yours got bigger and

0:59:16.420,0:59:22.960

bigger whereas mine got sort of catchy

0:59:19.600,0:59:25.450

yeah yeah definitely right and I just

0:59:22.960,0:59:27.370

want to add that I am going to listen to

0:59:25.450,0:59:28.990

Brahms some more because I'm not as

0:59:27.370,0:59:31.810

familiar with it as I was with

0:59:28.990,0:59:33.700

Beethoven's or Zacks and I think it

0:59:31.810,0:59:35.980

might I don't know I I think I'm gonna

0:59:33.700,0:59:38.320

connect it some more and it might top

0:59:35.980,0:59:40.480

Beethoven's and vortex also yeah and

0:59:38.320,0:59:42.160

Pierre you you went with kind of

0:59:40.480,0:59:44.980

catchiness because like Beethoven's 5th

0:59:42.160,0:59:46.600

is very catchy catchy nasur memorability

0:59:44.980,0:59:48.010

like yeah memorability

0:59:46.600,0:59:52.300

yeah that's probably a better word for

0:59:48.010,0:59:53.890

it yeah like just going over it in your

0:59:52.300,0:59:57.120

head just so I got yeah that was that

0:59:53.890,1:00:00.760

was bit was cool that say anyway I

0:59:57.120,1:00:03.040

really like the fact that you know this

1:00:00.760,1:00:04.990

is what I wanted to do with this podcast

1:00:03.040,1:00:06.880

I wanted to do like take two weeks to

1:00:04.990,1:00:09.070

listen to something have kind of a

1:00:06.880,1:00:10.950

personal experience with it and then

1:00:09.070,1:00:14.020

kind of compared with your experience

1:00:10.950,1:00:17.710

experiences and I think it worked better

1:00:14.020,1:00:19.450

than ever in this episode I honestly

1:00:17.710,1:00:21.460

wish we could just play the entire

1:00:19.450,1:00:25.480

symphonies and talk over them but that

1:00:21.460,1:00:27.070

wouldn't work I kind of want to

1:00:25.480,1:00:29.230

encourage the listeners at home to go

1:00:27.070,1:00:31.810

and listen to some of these at least

1:00:29.230,1:00:35.020

because there is a lot a lot of

1:00:31.810,1:00:37.450

beautiful pieces of music here that like

1:00:35.020,1:00:39.490

even if you're not a huge classical

1:00:37.450,1:00:41.920

music listener or never listened to

1:00:39.490,1:00:43.870

classical music I think there's a bunch

1:00:41.920,1:00:45.730

here that you can take home with you you

1:00:43.870,1:00:47.350

know listening to something different

1:00:45.730,1:00:49.900

for a while like I said really sparked

1:00:47.350,1:00:51.670

new interest in music in me so if you're

1:00:49.900,1:00:54.130

if you're you know the listener at home

1:00:51.670,1:00:55.840

looking for a change or or to listen to

1:00:54.130,1:00:57.930

something in you I recommend giving this

1:00:55.840,1:01:01.090

a shot it totally worked for me and

1:00:57.930,1:01:03.040

other than these five symphonies out of

1:01:01.090,1:01:05.760

my experience I would totally recommend

1:01:03.040,1:01:08.890

listening to Beethoven's first it's

1:01:05.760,1:01:10.630

extremely catchy it's beautiful and it's

1:01:08.890,1:01:13.780

very short it's like listening to a long

1:01:10.630,1:01:16.780

song you know and I think it's just an

1:01:13.780,1:01:19.300

amazing point of entry into this world I

1:01:16.780,1:01:21.970

really I'm really glad that we that we

1:01:19.300,1:01:23.090

did this episode I mean this like for me

1:01:21.970,1:01:26.120

was

1:01:23.090,1:01:28.370

definition of a cultural quest to take

1:01:26.120,1:01:31.700

something that is very is very close and

1:01:28.370,1:01:34.700

kind of dive a bit deeper he definitely

1:01:31.700,1:01:37.850

left him with the taste for more I think

1:01:34.700,1:01:41.480

I only started to scratch the surface of

1:01:37.850,1:01:43.580

of interesting stuff or even from these

1:01:41.480,1:01:47.690

five symphonies alone I think there's a

1:01:43.580,1:01:50.150

lot more to to take in from them so yeah

1:01:47.690,1:01:51.890

I think it was it was a good quest yeah

1:01:50.150,1:01:54.110

we'll definitely be back listening to

1:01:51.890,1:01:55.580

classical music one day I think maybe

1:01:54.110,1:01:57.890

we'll do it round two or something got

1:01:55.580,1:02:07.000

that yeah yeah I'll definitely be into

1:01:57.890,1:02:09.170

that awesome okay so in our next episode

1:02:07.000,1:02:12.590

surprise surprise we're going to be

1:02:09.170,1:02:14.000

something that is a bit different we've

1:02:12.590,1:02:15.800

joked about saying that every episode

1:02:14.000,1:02:17.750

because like we always say we'll do

1:02:15.800,1:02:19.940

something different and then we do a

1:02:17.750,1:02:21.830

documentary movie which was something

1:02:19.940,1:02:24.050

new or we read comic books which we've

1:02:21.830,1:02:25.910

never done before and I kind of think

1:02:24.050,1:02:28.100

that eventually we'll run out of new

1:02:25.910,1:02:30.170

things to do like eventually we will do

1:02:28.100,1:02:33.740

an episode about a famous painting or

1:02:30.170,1:02:35.600

something but this time it's it's really

1:02:33.740,1:02:37.340

something different like the premise of

1:02:35.600,1:02:39.230

the episode and the format of the

1:02:37.340,1:02:40.730

episode is gonna be a little different

1:02:39.230,1:02:43.310

we're going to do something that we're

1:02:40.730,1:02:45.680

going to call a side quest or kind of

1:02:43.310,1:02:47.420

more accurately I went on a side quest

1:02:45.680,1:02:50.630

and I want to talk about it with you

1:02:47.420,1:02:53.350

guys our next episode is the first of

1:02:50.630,1:02:56.330

what may become a series of cyclists

1:02:53.350,1:02:58.130

like next episode instead of all of us

1:02:56.330,1:03:00.350

watching a movie or reading a book or

1:02:58.130,1:03:02.780

something I've been reading up on a

1:03:00.350,1:03:04.330

subject that I find interesting and I'm

1:03:02.780,1:03:06.740

gonna talk to you guys about it

1:03:04.330,1:03:09.020

hopefully we'll learn something new and

1:03:06.740,1:03:11.930

will you know be just a little bit more

1:03:09.020,1:03:13.400

cultured and to make it even more

1:03:11.930,1:03:15.710

different than a usual episode there's

1:03:13.400,1:03:17.270

going to be a visual component to the

1:03:15.710,1:03:19.840

episode I've prepared a presentation

1:03:17.270,1:03:21.680

I'll use it as a visual aid and

1:03:19.840,1:03:23.960

obviously the presentation will be

1:03:21.680,1:03:26.120

available for everyone to see so you can

1:03:23.960,1:03:28.160

follow along as you listen it'll be on

1:03:26.120,1:03:28.850

Google slides which you can open from

1:03:28.160,1:03:31.070

any device

1:03:28.850,1:03:34.160

I think phones tablets computers

1:03:31.070,1:03:35.700

anything and it'll also be in YouTube

1:03:34.160,1:03:36.839

there's a video so you

1:03:35.700,1:03:39.089

be able to check it out there if you

1:03:36.839,1:03:40.770

want and obviously I've prepared things

1:03:39.089,1:03:42.599

in in a way that you can also enjoy it

1:03:40.770,1:03:44.910

just by listening to it as a podcast

1:03:42.599,1:03:46.800

episodes if the visual aids are gonna be

1:03:44.910,1:03:48.869

kind of a bonus you don't have to follow

1:03:46.800,1:03:50.970

along and in order to enjoy the episode

1:03:48.869,1:03:53.280

now the subject i've chosen to talk

1:03:50.970,1:03:57.540

about without giving away too much news

1:03:53.280,1:03:58.589

the Anthropocene or the age of men like

1:03:57.540,1:04:01.470

I said I don't want to give away too

1:03:58.589,1:04:03.450

much but I'll be introducing an idea

1:04:01.470,1:04:05.730

that is somewhat talked about in the

1:04:03.450,1:04:08.940

scientific world in the field of geology

1:04:05.730,1:04:10.619

kind of environmental science I think

1:04:08.940,1:04:12.210

it's gonna be very very interesting like

1:04:10.619,1:04:15.270

it's something I've been reading up and

1:04:12.210,1:04:18.359

kind of following for the last year or

1:04:15.270,1:04:21.119

so and I'd be happy to talk about it

1:04:18.359,1:04:23.430

with you guys I'll do my best to present

1:04:21.119,1:04:25.500

this interesting subject to you guys and

1:04:23.430,1:04:27.510

your job will be to ask me you know

1:04:25.500,1:04:29.280

questions and discuss your thoughts

1:04:27.510,1:04:31.050

about it and I don't know maybe in the

1:04:29.280,1:04:33.089

future we'll do some more of these side

1:04:31.050,1:04:35.670

quests if you guys want to do something

1:04:33.089,1:04:39.000

I know I already have a second subject

1:04:35.670,1:04:40.800

in mind but it's still too early to talk

1:04:39.000,1:04:42.750

about like I'm still trying to see if

1:04:40.800,1:04:44.369

there's enough data about it if there's

1:04:42.750,1:04:47.400

enough info about it to kind of tell

1:04:44.369,1:04:48.930

story yeah so that's what we'll do next

1:04:47.400,1:04:50.190

episode you guys don't have to to

1:04:48.930,1:04:54.450

prepare or anything

1:04:50.190,1:04:55.650

yay yeah and I like I said it's

1:04:54.450,1:04:57.630

something I've been following for a

1:04:55.650,1:05:00.750

while so I think I'm gonna be setting

1:04:57.630,1:05:03.390

the bar really high I'm going to try to

1:05:00.750,1:05:05.210

blow your expectation right now I'm

1:05:03.390,1:05:07.710

gonna be doing the second one I'm dying

1:05:05.210,1:05:10.319

yeah this I think we're starting

1:05:07.710,1:05:13.079

something cool here I think what kind of

1:05:10.319,1:05:15.300

will kind of do these side quests I'm

1:05:13.079,1:05:17.520

not promising anything but every I don't

1:05:15.300,1:05:20.369

know three or four months or so kind of

1:05:17.520,1:05:24.480

depends on our productivity or how much

1:05:20.369,1:05:27.359

we want to put into that but well we'll

1:05:24.480,1:05:29.520

see so thank you Peter and thank you

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barrio for staying true to our goal

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thank you

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the listeners at home for helping us

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along the latest stage of our quest we

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hope that you join us again next episode

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and we'll talk to you soon bye-bye see

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ya see ya

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