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last updated 8:35 PM CST 1/11/2026
This page provides a timeline with links to relevant Reddit posts about discoveries as they occurred searching for this mystery.
Please note, I am tired lol and slowing down on this whole dealio, there are so many avenues of discovery!
12/15/2025
u/FL4VA-01 makes this post, finding a spider web in Saint Denis and equating it to the Chiliad Webs in GTA5
12/17/2025
u/TracySevert creates a post that a person on a discord server ( u/pariah87) has found that there are actually 8 webs on telegraph poles and states that the webs are called “spiderdreams.” This post takes off with others then looking into the mystery.
In the early comments on this post, users u/FL4VA-01 and u/justdokeit determine the times when the webs spawn
u/MajesticCaptain8052 notes that the name “spiderdreams” may tie into the dream catchers mystery.
*Someone (probably discord’s Pariah87) discovers that there is a spider carving on the Cornwall Kerosene and Tar post and overlays it on the map.
12/18/2025
u/Gold-Lie-9628 shares discord user Pariah87’s map with the spider emblem overlay, seen here:
12/23/2025
u/rb136 offers a comprehensive overview of feather locations within their webs
u/fthen2k02 uses CodeX to identify a new web, located in the center of the spider overlay.
u/Dazzling_Key recognizes that this new web reads “N [telegraph pole]” and that directly north does indeed lie a telegraph pole.
Shoot that telegraph pole to uncover a hidden message, "W +++++"
What this message tells us is to move 5 poles west and shoot that pole. By doing so you will uncover another carving, this one saying “NW [guitar]”
12/24/2025 u/tuorow finds two guitars within Fort Wallace, a place that lands directly northwest of the “NW [guitar]” post
Here, mystery solvers broke into several camps:
· NW [guitar] refers to the guitars within Fort Wallace
o It refers to the guitar on the table, pointing West
o It refers to the guitar in the tallest tower, pointing south
o It refers to both, leading you southwest
o Updated! users find, what if the upright guitar is in fact, pointing up
· NW [guitar] leads to something else, not the Fort Wallace guitars
Additionally, users continue to explore exactly what to do with the feather webs themselves
Photo by u/dinoguy117
For several days, the search provides thoughtful, but, up to now, dead end leads regarding what to do with the guitar. Please see the Leads page if you would like to further explore them.
From this point, research diverges into the webs/feathers and/or the guitars.
The Web/Feather Track
Cornwall Web/B34/spiderdream03
Time: 3-4 AM
Feather Color: Black
Oil Fields Web/B56//spiderdream02
Time: 5-6 AM
Feather Color: Black
Overflow Web/B23/spiderdream05
Time: 2-3 AM
Feather Color: Black
Emerald Web/B45/spiderdream04
Time: 4-5 AM
Feather Color: Black
Saint Denis Web/R34/spiderdream08
Time: 3-4 AM
Feather Color: Red
Ringneck Web/BL56/spiderdream01
Time: 5-6 AM
Feather Color: Black
Southfield Web/R45/spiderdream07
Time: 4-5 AM
Feather Color: Red
Scarlett Web/R23/spiderdream06
Time: 2-3 AM
Feather Color: Red
12/27/2025 u/iittlebird offers a map with all confirmed locations and seemingly relevant information
u/Queckselber033 realizes the colors of the feathers are correlated to different train lines
u/Successful_Tap_2947 posits one possible order of web interaction
12/28/2025
u/bikkhu42 shares what they believe to be all related files in game
u/Quiet_Historian1841 puts forth detailed overview and a substitution and direction theory
12/29/2025
u/tuorow proposes we have found clues out of order and should focus energy on the feathers and webs over where “NW [guitar] leads
u/FrosstyWasHere discovers that the feather they shot off the day before spawned on the ground where it had landed the next night. This results in a discussion about respawn timelines
12/30/2025
u/a_duck_in_a_past_life notices that in-game time slows down by the spider engraving pole for him
12/31/2025
u/FrosstyyWasHere finds dream catchers at the “elbow” of the spider
1/1/2026
u/worthlessafsince2002 observes that two important poles have extra hooks/cable
u/artem_ab6 finds and labels the webs by their in-game file names
1/2/2026
A now deleted user/thread u/gnote_ethny begins the long brute force test and shares observations. Some chains are discovered wherein the feathers do not respawn. Though the initial comment is deleted, all follow up comments are still listed. For context, the text of the original, now deleted comment can be found below
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Hello, I wanted to make a post but I don't have enough karma. I've been spending some time trying to shoot the feathers in order. I've been taking some notes and have noticed a few things. https://preview.redd.it/a6uzn2kcg1bg1.png?width=2410&format=png&auto=webp&s=9d5eb4d438c55512b4a4262f6129f99f6365ee55 (Map from u/iittlebird)
There is an order to shoot the feathers. The feathers do not have to be shot by order of hours necessarily. For the purposes of explanation, the black feathers have a B, the red feathers have an R. The feathers are as such: R23, R34, R45, B23, B34, B45, B56, BL56. For BL56, L means for low, i.e. Ringneck since it is more south than oilfields (b56). R23 for example is Scarlett., B45 is Emerald, B56 is oilfields, BL56 is ringneck.
When I shoot a feather, then another, if they do not respawn, it is a chain. e.g. R34->R45. If shooting a feather causes the others to reset, I represent it as this: B34->B56, B23... meaning shooting B56 (or B23) after B34 causes B34 and B56 (or B23) to reset.
I have observed the following in my game: B34 cannot be the starting feather. Every feather after B34 resets the chain. Therefore: B34->B56,B23,B45,BL56,R23,R45,R34 Any red feather at the start will not reset the other red feathers.
For example, R34->R45->R23; R45->R34->R23; and R23->R34->R45. R34->R45->R23->B23, B34, B45, B56, BL56. R34->BL56, B45, B56, B23, B34
I currently have the following chain: B23->B45 ->B56 ->BL56. B34 after BL56 breaks the chain. This looks promising.
* It appears B56 and BL56 can be done in either order. i.e. B23->B45 ->B56 ->BL56 and B23->B45 ->BL56 -> B56 both appear valid. * Choosing any Red after BL56 in this chain causes the red feather to reset, but not the rest of the chain. There appears to be a unique function to the red feathers.
Speculations / Things I've noticed: * B56 and BL56 seem equivalent. * Reds may not start a chain? (Unsure about this) * B34 is not a starting feather. I have a suspicion it is the last feather, but I can't prove this at the moment. * Traversing too far from the feathers causes the chain to reset. (fast traveling to strawberry) I've also noticed some people talk about time moving quicker or slower. In game, I believe the early morning hours may progress much quicker than hours in the later morning in general in game. I'll reply to this comment when I have any updates. EDIT: It seems I was wrong about B34. B34 can start a chain. See the replies.
1/4/2026
u/lopfeh finds that the webs can spawn at different times
1/5/2026
u/slaytanic_666 posts the hash data for the feathers
1/10/2025
u/royal-car-309 and u/Jay_0048 work together to determine despawn limits for feathers
1/11/2025
u/dropthepress finds that on specific routes, time stops. Few other users are able to replicate this
u/Camper1995 replicates it and provides video. They also provide the save file on which they got this to work, others can replicate off of this file.
It is not yet known what the series of events is/was to trigger the time freeze
The Guitars at Ft. Wallace Track
1/1/2026
u/szabolcs5757appears to be the first person to consider the guitar to point upwards
1/5/2026
u/virtualhumanoid tracks down interesting shapes on the roof of the tower with the Fort Wallace guitar
In addition to the "birds," some users also note raised roof tiles that appear to create a "W."
citations coming soon
u/JoshieBoy_Clark identifies the shapes to be birds (maybe?) Other users say, 3s, Ws, mustaches, the legs of the spider tattoo from GTA, hills, waves, the ends of tunnels on the map.
1/6/2026
u/TracySevert shares that the “birds” are actually part of the Fort Wallace roof model
Here again, people split into different factions of what happens next
NW [guitar] Symbol points to Window Rock
For those not sold on the idea that NW [guitar] engraving means the guitar in Fort Wallace, many have come to the conclusion it points to Window Rock.
At Window Rock is a strange painting that is already tied to the completion of the "Strange Statues" quest
u/KaptainKBeats puts out good info
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https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadmysteries/comments/1q7t5ry/7_humans_7_posse/
NW [guitar]=Nickolas Warseck, Audio Engineer
1/8/2026
u/CheeseandSugar posits the idea that the carving is it.
u/tw1stH doubles down
Fort Wallace "Birds" to Bacchus Line of thought
1/6/2026
From the roof of the tower, some have been led to look into the nearby Bacchus Bridge.
u/alfredoisking was led under the bridge to this heart carving
in the comments, u/tracysevert shares the game file
You'll notice that in game, you can only see the heart with the arrow. As u/quiet_historian1841 shares, the whole image shows up on a tree as part of the "A Quiet Time" quest.
u/slaytanic_666 discovers a whole cover texture to obscure most everything but the heart.
Fort Wallace "Birds" Mean "Two Crows" in New Austin
1/6/2026
u/turbulent-sleep6958 thinks they've found something at Two Crows
1/8/2026
u/Magestic_Fee5697 notices a strange wagon
Fort Wallace "Birds" lead to Strange Man's Giant's "Birds" and on...
1/7/2026
Looking straight ahead leads you to look out a space near Calumet Ravine.
Travel there in a straight line to a point where a large flock of birds appears.
From this point, look out to the mountains...
Youtuber StrangeMan seems to believe the next clue to be a "?" that appears on a distant Mountain
If you were to have drawn the path on your map that you have so far taken, it appears similar to a backwards questionmark ⸮
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadmysteries/comments/1q77a3n/i_think_the_question_mark_is_legit_but/
Fairvale Shanty
Following this logic, the next point of interest that would complete the upper part of the ⸮ would be Fairvale Shanty
u/Voith1337 finds a new engraving in the ruins
u/odd_orange6963 notices a lantern on for a set 70 minutes in game
1/8/2026 Strange rocks
Compson's Stead
again, assuming we need to make a backwards question mark on our map, the point for the question mark lands at the well at Compson's stead
u/geronimoray directs us back to their deep dive into the well from 7 years ago
Native American lore
Obelisk/Reutlinger
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadmysteries/comments/1q726aa/deciphering_the_big_valley_obelisk_its_1771/
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