above are screen shots of the skinny gossip thread and Paper Magazines headline.
This is McCarthyism irresponsibly spread by some self described 'model' (who knows if that is even true) lumping innocent people in with noted alleged sexual assault perpetrators fueled by undocumented news reports with headlines like:
"model posts 'blacklist' to protect models from sexual assault."
GIVING the public named targets, inciting her followers to avoid these people who work in the fashion business. I doubt if he/she/they would want to themselves face such hate, ridicule and loss of work because of it. In fact they state they are anonymous because they fear losing work and blamed taking down their list on threats against them. Now isn't that a laugh. They claim they are afraid of exactly what they called their followers out to do to those they accused.
By the end of its run with press coverage included The BLACKLIST contained 500+ names of 'alleged' sexual assailants in the fashion industry.
AGAIN, This page is a 'cyber history' of the @ShitModelMgmt #Shitmodelmgmt event in Feb/Mar of 2018.
Given SHITMODELMGMT's history and large number of followers with an ANONYMOUS leader they were capable of a lot of damage and personal injury to those they targeted.
She/he/they did not take any responsibility for how she/he/they created this list stating they were simply reporting names from private messages sent to them by their following whose accusations also remained anonymous.
She/he/they maliciously gathered these reports, further attacking their targets in the media by stating "So many. Almost half of them probably. My entire email is full of these pretend lawsuits and I'm just ignoring them. It's funny because most of the ones that are the worst and most repeated names are the ones that are scared. So that's why I'm not afraid because I know that they are afraid" & "You can't defend these people, especially when they have stars by their names... that's serious. Instead of trying to defend him and get him off the list, talk to him, find answers and question him. You shouldn't automatically defend someone. Maybe be a little skeptical, you know?" in the PAPER Magazine interview.
I was one of those people with asterisks by their name which she emailed me took my name off the list prior to removing the site entirely. The email stated that after reviewing the complaints against me they were more vocal abuse than sexual. That is a damn lie and there is a big difference between being 'vocally abusive' and sexually.
You do not create a badly informed sexual predator list from emails you dont even vet before listing the person.
If you truly are concerned about the people emailing you, you Go to the authorities or encourage the victims to do so. You solve the problem, You do not create lynch mob list hurting peoples reputations, safety and livelihood.
Sexual assault is an act of violence that should not be taken lightly. It is so vilified in the world that the mere mention of it horrifies and disgusts people. To label people on a blacklist as such is to put their lives and personal relationships in danger. They could also become victims of hate crime themselves. SHITMODELMGMT your act of doing this BLACKLIST shows a total disregard for the lives and safety of everyone on that list including people like me who were falsely accused of sexual inappropriate behavior by you.
Furthermore to create it anonymously with arbitrary rumor shows an unwillingness to take full responsibility for this terrible act you have deliberately set into motion and you should be fully held accountable to the full extent of the law for slander, lost wages, lost reputations and possibly even personal harm.
My name remained on your blacklist for several days and even though you removed it prior to taking down the list the fact remains you did it.
YOU THE anonymous list creator of SHITMODELMGMT & her/his/their accomplices have not come forward. Come forward if you did not lie and have nothing to hide.
I am a rape survivor, I have nothing to hide and while I would prefer not to have to recount my life's story for the world and the headline grabbing press, if it will save one person from being a victim of people like you I will gladly tell my story to the world.
FIRST, YOU will have to stand before me publicly with your accusers and state your lies.
To relive my life trauma because an anonymous list maker decides to make a sexual predator list is wrong. To assume victims of sexual misconduct and rape are limited to your Model email list and not people you target on your BLACKLIST shows how much you are willing to hurt and disregard the lives of others, you deem unworthy, in your very ignorantly and horribly thought out BLACKLIST. Anonymous attacks through BLACKLISTS from anyone pretending to whatever without validation undermines the fight to stop real perpetrators and should not be tolerated period.
She/he/they took down the BLACKLIST as of 3/05/18 at midnight along with a post in their account all day.
One day this will not be a gray area and when that day comes this page will serve as a reminder as to why we, as a people, should be trying to find legal ways to bring SHITMODELMGMT and others like them to justice and held responsible.
and anyone who aided in this anonymous attack should be HELD ACCOUNTABLE, legally and morally.
THE ORIGINAL POST FROM he/she/their google site page @SHITMODELMGMT SITE MINUS THE ACTUAL LIST 3/05/18
@shitmodelmgmt
photo by @bluebellwooi (disclaimer: this photo is from a follower. she is not affiliated with shit model management)
The following list contains the names of people in the fashion industry that I SUGGEST models avoid, because I have been told that they have acted sexually inappropriate to models. Before a shoot or job, please check the list and see if any of the names on here are on your call sheet. You can email me if you need to tell me any information. (shitmodelmanagement@gmail.com) The names without an asterisk are a warning- they have only been named once. Just stay cautious and smart when planning to work with them. The names with an asterisk have been named over 3 times and should be avoided in order to stay safe.
Every name on this list was sent to me by other people, and I am simply reporting, after fact checking to the best of my ability, what was said to me. This is not my personal opinion, I am reporting the experiences of others. Until proven, these names are simply allegations. This does not discredit any experiences shared with me; as I am reporting what was told to me over direct messages, I’m formally stating that the claims are allegations. Take from that what you will.
I started this list a few months ago, when models began sharing their stories with me. I asked my followers to message me the names of any photographers, agents, stylists, designers, and anyone else involved in the fashion industry that acted sexually inappropriate towards them. My dms immediately blew up. I was receiving thousands of messages from different male and female models. To the models that trusted me with your stories- I am so grateful that you came to me and spoke up. There were some stories about how the photographer (or stylist, agent, etc) tried to coerce them into taking off their clothes when they already said no, sending unwanted sexually explicit messages, pressuring the models for nudes, trying to exchange sex for shoots or getting signed, pushing unwanted sexual advances on them, inappropriate touching, crude sexual comments, and even full on sexual assault. It takes so much strength and bravery to openly talk about sexual assault. We are always warned of "creepy photographers." But it isn't always the typical "creep." It can be someone you know. Someone you trusted. It can be a young, cute guy. It can be a woman. A lot of times, a sexual assailant is someone popular or "famous" in the fashion world. Speaking up comes with the fear of ruining your career. Sometimes you don't even know that it was sexual assault until it has happened. And sometimes the agency doesn't even care. But remember that YOU are the victim. Not the abuser. Not the predator. Not anyone else. And you have the right to be ANGRY. Coming out with your story is terrifying, but naming your abuser can help keep other potential victims safe. Do not be afraid of being doubted. Even posting this list is scary for me. I know that I will receive backlash. But I cannot keep silent when I know that so many of my model sisters and brothers have been hurt by someone- and knowing that I have a way to end it.
BELOW ARE COPIED PAGES OF NEW ARTICLES, COMMENTARY FROM SHITMODELMGMT'S INSTAGRAM AND OTHERS along with PAGES FROM the above mentioned SKINNYGOSSIP SITE
SHITMODELMGMT INSTAGRAM posts copied 3/06/2018
- ginger_roxSorry you had to take it down because of some ego maniac,i had an hope to see something happening and with such a list it wouldve been easy but i feel like they are winning again because thats what they do on all of us to keep us shut down and not talking
- alectrafying^ !! We support you 100% thank you for even making the list.
- iamcandacecamille@modelsrescortssame
- exitcherryHey i just wanted to say thank you so much for making the list and being brave enough to call people out - so much fucked up stuff goes on behind closed doors in this industry and so many people feel like they need to keep silent about it out of fear, this has for sure started a spark in so many people (including me) to call out those who have wronged them, so even though the list is gonna be taken down i wanted to thank you for helping and inspiring so many people to stand up for themselves and be brave 💕
- alectrafying@thisbitchmagazine email her
- paden_m@modelsrescorts what does your username mean?
- brittanicole@25park check out the list of predators in the link on this profile. It’s getting deleted tn because of this user getting death threats. Watch her story. Definitely think this is something you could help shine some light on.
- kailakarnsYou've started a movement. We ALL stand with you girl ❤ (except these vile people trying to go after you)
- alectrafyingThe list will always be alive! Just the beginning
- julia_covertBless the list and all you’ve done for models worldwide you’ve been everyone’s guardian angel in this industry ♥️
- haley_warrI just went on that page where they “think they found the girl” behind this account and said it was me. Waiting for death threats now lmaoooo
- callehansWhat you are doing is so admirable, thank you!!
- sarahxspoonerCheck out their insta story, shit is going down @celialees@justinewoods_
- kailakarns@haley_warr it's like anyone that overly supports has to be her like lmfao
- celialees@sarahxspooner Jesus Christ lol
- kailakarns@modelsrescorts I put it in my weblink, I suggest everyone does the same. Bully one girl is bullying us all for standing up
- the_megan_girlAppreciate what you are doing 💜✨
- kailakarnsLIST IS BACK 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻❤
- haley_warr@kailakarns Hahahah right!!!!
- jesschernovetGrateful for u bae screenshotted forever
- modelsrescorts@lila_lila_2 have you seen models death treating photographers?
- tinywolves@lildutchhunni uhm aren’t you assuming something here lol
- lila_lila_2@modelsrescorts I have seen the harassment of innocent photographers. That is beside the point though. It is wrong to unfairly persecute models and photographers alike. Key point being UNFAIR PERSECUTION. Rape and sexual assault are serious allegations that should not be taken lightly. If I know for a fact that photographers have reached out to the manager of this account in an amicable way. They have been ignored. There are plenty of people that would threaten/
- attempt physical harm upon somebody accused of sexual assault of a loved one. False allegations are dangerous either way.
- lila_lila_2@modelsrescorts you do realize that I could make seemingly credible anonymous email allegations against you. Have your name published. And there is nothing you could do about it. How would that make you feel?
- theultravioletmagazineCheck DM immediately. @shitmodelmgmt
- kennysale@lila_lila_2 you must’ve missed a lot of stories this account shared over the past couple months. The account responded to a lot of people. The majority were just threats it seemed like. People being scared to be ousted, in my opinion. More than 10 people accusing the same person, you think it’s a defensible coincidence? They aren’t being put on trial, the list is suggested. The only people who have actually suffered (photographers recently in fashion) are the ones who were called out with their accusers being public, via The NY Times.
- I’m all for innocent until proven guilty, but there’s no trial here. There’s stories and opinion that this account has chosen to share and spread. There’s nothing wrong with that. If the kindness in those accused people really outweighs the accused wrong doing, maybe there would an account dedicated to that, but there isn’t. If you really considered what you’re saying, you’d have to argue it’s acceptable to sue every news source that ever existed. From reporting a murder, to telling a story about a “rape”, to getting the weather wrong. Maybe some stories are made up here, but I seriously believe the vast majority of them are true. For anyone who’s worked in this industry, they all know what’s been going on for a long time. The abuse needs to stop.
- lildutchhunni@tinywolves based on your comment you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about whatsoever, so yes I will assume, lol no one is “conceited” here that’s what agents say to you!!! Just letting you know ...
- lila_lila_2@kennysale I have no problem with reasonably verified stories being shared. It is one thing to share a specific allegation. It is one thing to post evidence of abuse. This is not what we are talking about. We are talking about a list of photographers in which the author of the list admitted that they went with their gut feeling on who to accuse based off of anonymous emails. I also believe that many of the stories may have some truth to them but I also acknowledge that the method in which the author collected and vetted the allegations is ripe for abuse. I also have an issue with he fact that there is no way to distinguish between the factual allegations and the made up allegations without specifics. If the author of the list is going to take on the cause of making accusations then he or she (cause you truly don’t know who this person is) then they should also be willing to admit fault when presented with evidence of the contrary. I know for a fact that the author has been presented with specific evidence exonerating some of the accused but has refused to address this their mistakes and have in fact left the accused in the list. THIS IS WRONG.
- lildutchhunni@lila_lila_2 no woman on this earth gives two shits about ruining the career of something they simply “didn’t like”. They have absolutely nothing to gain. Their perspectives on trying to stay safe would make them speak up more than anything. Do you have any idea how hard it is to make accusations like these?? No? Well, lucky you... you’ve clearly never been a victim... & it’s important for your dumbass to acknowledge this RIGHT now in order to sound smarter than your original statement.
- lildutchhunni@modelsrescorts literally never.............................
- thephotographychannel@kennysale If someone with a grudge wrote this entity and made false allegations against you, would your stance remain the same? There is no such thing as an “allegation” in this instance. If your name is on lists like this, you are automatically assumed guilty. Sexual assault is a serious matter that has to be handled by the authorities or a professional entity to investigate every single claim. This is not something an anonymous account on the internet is fit to police. Especially the names without an asterisk. I wish the best for victims on both sides of this fence. I can also tell you plenty of stories about creepy models in this industry. There are victims on both sides.
- lila_lila_2@lildutchhunni who said anything about specific about a woman ruining the career of somebody they don’t like. I specifically used the word INDIVIDUAL. An individual could be an ex , an individual could be a competitor. Reading is fundamental. Also, you are being naive if you do not believe people are falsely accused in this country every day. Are you making the assertion that all allegations of sexual misconduct are true? The ONLY criteria for inclusion on this list is an anonymous email to an anonymous individual who deems your allegation credible based of their gut instinct. No actually qualification for assessment. No external vetting. No second check. No editorial board. You are literally getting your information from an Instagram meme account. Not a judge, not a lawyer, not a journalist, not first hand. AN ANONYMOUS INSTAGRAM MEME ACCOUNT.
- kennysale@lila_lila_2 it’s not perfect, but it’s a start. Sure innocent until proven guilty, I get you. There was one story they made a decision on based on a gut feeling, that we know of. Why are reporters or mass media any different? Weinstein denied “allegations” too. So did everyone else. Like I said, and now have confirmed, you did miss a lot of the stories this account posted. They did admit fault on several occasions and even removed names. With that all said, fuck formalities. Everyone is so caught up with the right and wrong of the account, what’s moral and ethical. Bottom lines, if these people were and are good people, they wouldn’t be on this list. There would be no bad stories. Bottom line.
- Should I give the moral high ground to Testino? I’m sure giving a prostrate exam to models what solely to check up on their health.
- Also, I don’t understand your last paragraph. Unless someone was just misnamed, how would a specific person exonerate themselves from a fake story? I’m sure I’ve missed things on here too, but idk what you’re talking about and it doesn’t make sense.
- It’s a suggested list, but again, if they did nothing wrong, they wouldn’t be on it. From what I understand. Most those names are based on multiple reports. Not all, but most. They did something, at some point, to end up on the list. That shouldn’t be able to just say “it’s wrong” and get a free pass. Don’t whisper the account holder, make your own statement and defend the accusation. If the people you assaulted find the courage to formally accuse you, then deal with that too. They’re all so fucking scared. Whispering the account, saying they’ll sue, saying it’s slander, making idle threats, because they’re so worried the truth will come out. They could, and hear me out here, respectfully tell their side of the story and have an open discussion. You what Testino called all of his 18 accusers? Sick in the head and disgruntled employees. If Testino isn’t backing down and apologizing at 18 accusers.. we definitely, most definitely... need this list.
- lila_lila_2@kennysale to answer your question about the last paragraph. The author of this list has been sent correspondence in which the accuser (using the same email address in which they accused has admitted to the false allegations). That photographers information remains on the list even though the false allegation was they only allegation against the photographer. It would be nice if @shitmodelmgmt would address this specifically.
- Reporters and mass media are different in that they have a vetting process and editorial board for stories like this. They also tend to contact the accused prior to publication of an allegation. There is no credible publication that would post an unverified list because that is simply irresponsible.
- kennysale@thephotographychannel I would have a public forum. I would address any accusers message, email, or “comment”. These accusations aren’t just made up and they do not need to be formalized to be talked about. If they did nothing wrong, they likely wouldn’t be on this list. Why are there no accusations against Obama, Oprah, or Elon Musk? This isn’t a trial here. Regardless of all of that, consider rape shield laws. Everyone quoting law and saying this should “go through proper authorities”, is entirely irrelevant. Every person on this list could be required to appear in court without knowing who their accuser is. Why aren’t the ones defending these people considering freedom of press and freedom of speech, and rape shield laws? The only wrong thing here is that rape shield laws don’t protect/apply to men. How did you expect me to respond? Everyone is arguing morals, and “laws”. Forgetting their own worldview and acting like hypocrites. If they didn’t do anything wrong, they wouldn’t be on the list. There’s plenty of high powered photographers, not on this list. I’m sure there are creepy models out there. Feel free to make an account and tell us about all the famous male and female models that told their agents to get them booked on the best campaign in the world to use their power and influence to seduce, molest, and rape someone. The conditions are so entirely different….Consider who directs and controls the shoot. I’m very sure there’s models who have tried to seduce favorable position, but it’s entirely different when you dont have power over someone. Physical or metaphorical. I personally, have never heard a story about a creepy model doing anything closely related to the stories I’ve heard from this account, this industry, or other friends. It’s likely it has happened, but it’s also likely that I would have heard something, anything, by now. “Creepy” is largely different than “sexual predator”. I’ll take creepy any day, over being raped. You can tell your story without a “professional entity” formalizing. It’s the public’s decision whether or not they believe it.
- gypsygirlraeraePlease check your messages @shitmodelmgmt
- lila_lila_2@kennysale the first problem with what you said is that you would address the accusers. The accused can not do so because in most of the cases they don’t even know who the accuser is or even what they have been accused of. THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE. Secondly - you go way left field and bring up Obama and host of others. Obama is probably one of the most falsely accused people in history. As a matter of fact I’m going to stop right there and not even continue with you. Good luck with your modeling career.
- No wait. Your premise is these photographers must have done something wrong because good people don’t get false accusations thrown their was. And then you used Obama, Oprah, and Elon Musk as examples 😂😂😂 . You do realize everybody who you named has faced allegations. Hell even Oprah was accused of bringing young women to Harvey Weinstein’s house. Obama has been accused of protecting rapists and took contributions from Weinstein.... you know what. You just destroyed your own argument in the first few lines lol
- janaiahlenayOmg for real hhahaa
- tinywolves@lildutchhunni you know I wasn’t talking about the meme, I was talking about the comment below it being conceited first of all. And I have never had an agent say anything like that to me but maybe mine is just nice. They’re Canadian after all.
- etere_I missed the list before take down. Does someone have screenshots they can pm me?
- michellethenwhatwheres the list 😔
- kennysale@lila_lila_2 the post wasn’t addressed to you. I was responding to someone’s else’s question. It’s also pretty sad and petty that you’d result to personal insults, especially considering that I wasn’t addressing you. You actually didn’t reply to a single thing that I said to you. I’m not sure why.
- Anyways. If there were allegations against me, I can respond, on a public forum. Some of these people have. Most haven’t. Maybe I shouldn’t have used such extreme example, but the same idea holds with the rest of the post. I’ve researched all three of them and have quite a hard time finding information on rape or sexual assault perpetrated by any of them.
- I spoke to you from a view of understanding, but disagreement.
- Sure good people can be accused of things. So can bad people. It’s up for the public to decide.
- And shit man, im not writing a 20 page argumentative thesis that I’m proofreading. Don’t be such a dick.
- modelsrescorts@etere_@shitmodelmgmtlist
- sierra.paxtonTHANK YOU.
- sierra.paxtonThe very best karma is coming your way. You did the best thing possible.
- hmdfotos@modelsrescorts @etere_ i posted it to a text file and uploaded it to zippyshare here - ttp://tiny.cc/blacklistphoto
- hmdfotos@michellethenwhat see my comment below
- hmdfotos@hmdfotos no this is not spam !
- etere_@modelsrescorts thank you!!! 🙌
- _chloelees11So much respect for you & everything you are doing. It saddens me that the list had to be removed but it is not over, the list may be gone but the crimes are not. Justice will be delivered!!
- civ.ru12U r amazing
- civ.ru12🙌🙌🙌🙌
- civ.ru12🙌
- michellethenwhat@hmdfotos thank you so much!❤️
- missbellalindaYou are AMAZING. Giving us all so much strength right now. Let’s stick together and take these creeps DOWN 👊🏼
- thephotographychannel@kennysaleYour reply is exactly why these lists should be handled by proper authorities. You have automatically assumed every person on that list is a rapist. In a competitive field such as this, you are also going to get at least some photographers making false accusations against their competitors to smear their name publicly. You keep making assumptions. When I mention “creepy” models you automatically assumed gave them the benefit of the doubt while making the assumption that people on the other side of the fence are automatically rapists. Why make that assumption? Because male models are incapable of being sexually inappropriate toward female models and other male models on sets, for example?
- kennysale@thephotographychannel if that’s how it came across, sorry. I don’t assume every name on the list is a sexual offender or rapist, I definitely didn’t say that. I do think who controls the shoots and holds the power in the shoots are photographers, and I think that plays a big role in all that has happened. I think it’s a decent way to hold a public forum and fix a broken system in the entertainment industry. Like I said near the end, it is entirely possible that models are “creepy” or try to seduce coworkers. I didn’t just write that off. I just exclaimed that I personally haven’t heard any of those stories. I suppose a photographer could try and attack one another, but I really don’t see the difference from making their own blog or spreading rumors to colleagues. There’s definitely evil people out there who are capable of that. Which is why I said it’s up to the people to decide. Which is why I also said I believe you’re innocent until you’re proven guilty.
- It’s really difficult. I could go to the police, maybe, and lose a court battle because I have no money. Maybe an organization will take it pro-bono, maybe not. If someone loses, they’re blackballed.
- I do get what you’re saying though. I just think the pros out weigh the cons. I would struggle with the list, I think, if I was on it or in the profession most largely named. I just think this short term “bad” outweighs the good that can be produced.
- marthaprivaOmg please dont delete your page and the movement
- jewelleanna_@msnicoleking
SHITMODELMGMTISMORIADONEGAN as of 3/05/18
AN INSTAGRAM created by another anonymous person to try and out the person responsible for the list...
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradoneganJust like Oprah...you’re all rapists!
- haley_warrYou seriously have issues. Stop hiding behind a fake account and admit who you are. Btw you have it all wrong it’s not her it’s me hahaha
- angelazzhuoIts actually me hehehe jk fuck off. She’s exposing people for the right reason
- alliejesserActually it's me 🤷🏻♀️
- rhodanthe.onlineIts actually me you dumb fuck
- rhodanthe.onlineYou sad fuck
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan@rhodanthe.online sit down, shut the fuck up. Nobody asked you. Get out of here with your trash photography.
- wonderland_37Lmao. I have no words. Youre on the losing side, ya big old ugly-souled human.
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan“Models” once..
- Thinks she can call out an entire industry
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- motherslut@shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan i also said creep. All you have to do is cross one boundary once. How hard is it to keep your hands and words to yourself? It’s not. Be professional and there won’t be problems. The problem is they aren’t isolated incidents. They are mostly MULTIPLE GIRLS 3,4,8 people coming out about the same person with stories that all sound the same or similar.
- shannon_lanea@shitmodelmgmt2 omg People’s makes are on here for all kinds of reason ... he’s creepy name on the list.. if you got raped go to the police file a police... hell tell your daddy.. I’m not sure who the duck your daddy is.. but mine don’t play that shit... you fucking stop ... you have no proof that anyone on here did shit... not to say it didn’t happen... but that’s the problem with the site. PS if you’ve been rapped please head to your nearest police station
- shannon_lanea@motherslut show me the the proof... I’ll wait
- anastasia.kalacheva@shannon_laneatheir website clearly says that it is a list of names they SUGGEST staying away from. They separated people which they have gotten one report of and people who have been REPEATEDLY mentioned. If you were innocent and a model lied and you were put on that list, it's no big deal and you email them and explain your situation. Your family and friends see? They should know better and not be dipshits and judge you based on that.
- motherslut@shannon_lanea you’re sad police don’t do shit and i hope you don’t have to get raped to understand. But you probably will since most women do and can’t go on through their lives without it happening. When i was 14 i was raped by a 23 year old and the detective told me he wasn’t going to “let me ruin the young mans life because i was a whore who probably wanted it” then he lied and put me 51/50 against my will trying to say i wanted to kill myself. The police don’t do shit. You dumb bitch
- anastasia.kalacheva@shannon_laneayou realize sexual assault and being shitty at your job is different? Can't really equate those two. As models, we don't have the reach and power as photographers have. We aren't in a position of power.
- motherslut@shannon_lanea and it’s not isolated majority of my friends who tried to report their rape got the same treatment. Rape kits never get tested, cases never go through.
- shannon_lanea@motherslut look you need to stop confusing me.. I think there should a form, but a form where anybody can say whatever they want, without being able to defend yourself. She/he gave multiple ways you could be on the list so what if I’ve shoot 100 women all where comfortable except for one for whatever reason you creeped them out... your name gets added to the list... and no one knows what I’m actually being accused of because the person provide a catch all. So my name is on the list for 4 or 5 different things. But you see my name there... if you think that’s appropriate.. please respond no further. I’ll engage in intelligent debate.. I support the #metoo movement, the accuser is identified and what he did. There are levels and you can’t group everyone in the same category or not, disclose what the person did and to whom.
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan@shannon_lanea amen
- shannon_lanea@motherslut well again my daddy raised me to never put my self in situations..and in 44 and it’s never happened. But I feel for any women that has and they need to go after their accusers... my mom always said to me if you put your hands on me you better kill me. And there’s the fact that I sever an awesome God... but I also believe in street justice... I can tell you this any man put his hands on my daughter he clowns have hands, a dick and he will experience his asshole being dug out... I don’t care how many years I spend in jail... but he won’t be doing that to another women... this form just isn’t the way
- shannon_lanea@quintenmartis and you just assume they are guilty ... do you not see the flawed logic here... so basically if your name is on the list your guilty? Who cares that some people might be innocent... and you don’t say exactly what the person did, it could be tape, he was creepy, he touched me inappropriately etc. once you use the word Rape... everyone on the list will be seen as a rapists no matter what.. and someone could have just felt uncomfortable about a touch... that’s why I’m reporting this site and Instagram to all the news stations. If a women was really rape she needs to confront her accusers like the real#metoomovement and not hide behind this. There’s a better way to do this... this isn’t it
- shannon_lanea@anastasia.kalachevafirst of all this person has changed the wording when people starting warning... I’ve got screen shoot. This person one claimed to have proof.. provided a list of reasons you could possibly be on the list for etc..
- thisismacca@shitmodelmgmt2 you think spamming is helping your case in any bit? It’s a very slippery slope and almost logically fallacious to call your name ending up on the list “cyber rape”, that’s a massive exaggeration and a false metaphor and you know it. As a rape victim, as Kizzie mentioned above, you should be empathetic about other people having the courage to voice their stories because you should also understand how traumatic talking about something like that is, it’s like reliving it all over again. So instead of invalidating people’s painful experience that has been seared into their mind, shouldn’t you be not getting in the way of wanting these people, the same people that belonged to this toxic culture of abuse and assaulted you, to be outed so other models in the future can protect themselves. You can have no-fly lists, or lists of people who are banned from buying guns. Lists like this should also exist because instead ask yourself why some people don’t end up on this list instead? I too am a photographer myself but I keep my relationships with my models friendly, comfortable and most of all respectful. I even leave the location sometimes so they can change without having to hide themselves in the corner. Point being anyway that, even if you’re on the list, the way to defend yourself is to contact the account personally and get yourself removed. Wanting the entire list removed for your own sake (if you realise, your entire argument so far has been you-centric) instead of allowing other models to have a reference to protect themselves with in the future then you don’t actually want to destroy rape culture as much as you say you do.
- thisismacca@shannon_lanea@shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan please suggest then a valid due process that actually WORKS without the rape victim’s case, of any gender, getting thrown out of the window as if it was just a passing statement. Oh also please suggest a an appropriate manner of dealing with the shame of your rape experience being called a lie. You’re both so awfully selfish and severely missing the bigger picture, trashing the entire effort to bring down a toxic enterprise because of certain “misidentifications” as you claim, it hurts me to read your comments because it’s the literally the exact same attitude used to defend “not all men”
- anastasia.kalacheva@shannon_lanea of course she changed the wording. The site is CONSTANTLY changing as whoever is behind the website is trying to make it as accurate as possible. Hell, I'd be worried more about it's authenticity if it DIDNT change!! Even news outlets edit their articles as current stories develop and more information is revealed. And gurl. What do you want the victims to do? Go public and pull out pics of them being abused? Like "hey hold on a second just pause right there I need to take a picture of you abusing me so I can later prove it"??? Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch you got issues. They're trying to better the working environment of models. Give a helping hand to make it accurate as possible, eh? Or at least don't get in the way of people trying to do something good.
- shannon_laneaNo you have issues.. I don’t this person changed it because it said... “I HAVE PROOF” you go have a seat. Again your assuming everyone on the list is guilty ... for all we know your in charge of the site. You can justify the one sidedness all you want.. like I said I’m not against reporting someone just not this way, definitely not grouping everyone in the same boat... your are entitled to your opinion just as I am. We can simply agree to disagree that’s why I’m going to bring this to the media’s attention... you really want to get men to stop... that’s how you do...
- alliejesser@shitmodelmgmt2 you are literally copying and pasting the same statement all over Instagram about being raped and then bullies over the internet. Who knows/cares if it's true at this point? Your lack of class with handling this situation whether you were wrongly accused or not is disgusting so no one is going to believe you because you're hiding behind a fake account. @shitmodelmgmt is doing our industry a favor by exposing all of the freaks out there!!!
- shannon_lanea@thisismacca maybe the person in charge of the site should get these women together... so some women on here told me 8 women where raped by the same man... so why can’t they all get together and report it to the police.. media etc. I can speak for you all but either you want some form of real justice or you don’t. Especially now with the movements going on.. a tone of women running for more offices. You can’t hide behind a website and be a silent victim be a loud victim. Start groups to help these women with legal advice and recourse, educate women and empower them. This platform is not empowering at all. Let’s find out why these women feel so helpless? If you really want justice do that. But ok... hopefully all of reports to the different media outlets will get them the justice they need
- shannon_lanea@thisismacca hopefully your name never turns up on the list because some felt uncomfortable around or got a creepy vibe from you or just decided you did them wrong in some type of way and decide to DM someone and say you raped them. Hey maybe I should do that and have a couple of my model girls do the same and now your names on the list and there’s nothing you can do! Then maybe you’ll have a silently different thought process on why the system is flawed and can be manipulated and used as revenge etc or hell another photographer wanting to take down another
- shannon_lanea@thisismacca as we saw with the #metoo movement it only took one and then the gates up... if these persons are guilty of what they say they are,,, there’s apparently enough people who can come toward and have a crowd of women behind them..
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arturodaichi, chloe.edwards.thomas, federico.pignatelli, faridehaddad, bretgreenphoto, lannyzenga, themakeupmanofficial and abbyhuo like this
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradoneganshe started the Shitty Media men’s list and now she’s off to more baseless accusations in the fashion world. @shitmodelmgmt is MOIRA DONEGAN
- themakeupmanofficialI will pass this along to the people she s accused falsely
- themakeupmanofficial@davidleslieanthony
- juliusdcbryantphotographer@themakeupmanofficia thank you my lawyers are on it as well
- davidleslieanthony@juliusdcbryantphotographer actually you should get all the photographers who were falsely named and do a class action suit.
- davidleslieanthonyIf this is the person, then who is instagram/azalialexi/?? She was also named as the perpetrator behind this.
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan@davidleslieanthony unsure on this one unfortunately. But Moira is confirmed
- davidleslieanthony@shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan You should pass that information on to all the fashion sites and magazines that posted interviews with that girl and her site.
- davidleslieanthonyThose sites are equally responsible for spreading false information.
- untiltwentysevenThe only false info is this girl being behind the account. She isn’t stop spreading this false info. You all are mad you are sexual predators who can’t behave that way anymore
- nichebihh@juliusdcbryantphotographerlmao mad cause y’all getting exposed?? old ass men acting like children. pathetic.
- brittanicoleIf you’re going this far to out someone posting sexual harassers then you must be a serial rapist. If you had nothing to fear you wouldn’t be going this far.
- motherslutIf the accusations are false then you have nothing to worry about. If you didn’t do it, then you’ll be fine.
- ginger_roxYou should be ashame of yourself,some of these guys litteraly rapped people and you want it taken down ?! Wtf is wrong with you ?!
- morosismang0s@nichebihh exactly “she’s falsely accusing them” ?? how did someone falsely happen to mention your name that you sexually harassed them lol.. cancelled.
- nichebihh@morosismang0s yeah it’s not like these models are coming up with random names and it’s not a coincidence that more than one model are repeating these names, saying they’ve been sexually harassed by them.
- morosismang0s@ginger_rox !!!
- sofiaschakelNope not here. Your just damaging some poor girls career
- janaiahlenayLol shut up
- jens_christian_hWhat’s the proof?
- juliusdcbryantphotographer@morosismang0s do your research I don't know this person and neither does the majority of photographers mentioned. Never heard of her. So before ranting check your resources.
- juliusdcbryantphotographer@morosismang0s but you do know that there are disgruntled models who will add names just to take revenge I don't others story but I am not one of those and my legal team is on it
- haley_warrSounds like whoever made this account is someone who must have done some bad shit to models. If you did nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about creep
- shannon_lanea@jens_christian_h the same proof they offered the photographers..
- debbieflynn_So true@haley_warr. Photography is the closest that these perverts get to beautiful people so they abuse their job to get some sad sexual satisfaction. Pathetic really
- maaxx.x@juliusdcbryantphotographeryou don't have lawyers 😂😂😂
- maaxx.x@juliusdcbryantphotographer if multiple people accused you, you fucking did it. End of story.
- phatbabyfotos@veralzzzz
- anastasia.kalacheva@shannon_laneaendless dms and emails accounting past experiences of sexual assault apparently. This girl is just as evil as those darn sexual predators!! Put her on the same list!! (Sarcasm @jens_christian_h
- katycatbriannaIf you were put on that list but you're actually innocent, then why are you so offended? If you're truly innocent, then you wouldn't have spent all this time and effort into a hate page, instead you would've called your lawyers and handled this situation maturely. There's nothing to be scared of if you're truly innocent and did nothing wrong.
- irishpalatine@jens_christian_h I don't believe there is any. A bunch of names were published. The author stated they were provided by third parties - probably some genuine complaints amongst those which were deliberately malicious or those with an axe to grind. No fact checking, no investigation, poor journalism, all in the name of drawing in a few more followers.
MORE FROM SHITMODELMGMT & #SHITMODELMGMT as of 3/05/18
- rianvince@karamuschmusch 0 POSTS 0 FOLLOWERS 0 FOLLOWING, you're obviously a troll, throwing hate comments and possibly hired by the photographers she warns about.
- heinieline@fermartinbigi my agent/manager 😂😂😂😂😂
- fridgett_olsen@azalialexi face behind shitmodelmgmt
- thisbitchmagazineHey, just sent you a dm with an agent that is very well known for abusing models. @shitmodelmgmt
- shitmodelmgmtismoiradoneganMOIRA DONEGAN
- ilovegreys.anatomy@jennifertealey omg the horror! Victims reporting predators in society. They should remove you from their friend list if you still support these sexual predators, you should truly be ashamed of yourself love
- modelsrescortsFK this idiots, I’ll publish the blacklist. I’m not afraid of these asholes
- jennifertealey@ilovegreys.anatomy I’m not on this friends list. This is just that...SHIT! Good day sir.
- modelsrescorts@jennifertealey who cares?
- nichebihh@jennifertealey your friends list?? who does this nigga think she is??
- lildutchhunni@tinywolves not really agents say this ALL the time!! It’s so annoying how people who don’t know ANYTHING about the industry always say shit like this. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
- brittanicole@shitmodelmgmtismoiradonegan you’re a fucking freak if you’re working this hard to defend sexual predators
- beatrizdlaraWow I just checked the list and it’s insane. Who is the Mohamed Hadid tho? Pretty common Arab names, it isn’t bella and Gigi’s father right?! And what testino 😱 is there proof for that case? He seemed so nice...
- modelsaremoreLegacy of #shitmodelmgmt#shitmodelmgmtblacklist #blacklist #model#photographer THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND ITS BEING TAKEN DOWN TODAY. Totally understandable but I decided to make a copy for al of you guys!
- newfacemodelmagATTN: MODELS
- .....
- SPEAK UP & USE YOUR VOICE! WE SUPPORT YOU! 💞 .....
- Thank you, @shitmodelmgmt for posting this BLACKLIST and being a voice for models. “The following list contains the names of people in the fashion industry that I SUGGEST models avoid. This is not a concrete list, it is only a strong suggestion based on solid information. Before a shoot or job, please check the list and see if any of the names on here are on your call sheet. You can email me if you need to tell me any information. (shitmodelmanagement@gmail.com) The names without an asterisk are a warning- they have only been named once. Just stay cautious and smart when planning to work with them. The names with an asterisk have been named over 3 times and should be avoided at all cost in my opinion.” LINK IN BIO OF @shitmodelmgmt FOR FULL ARTICLE & BLACKLIST 🖤 Over the next few weeks, NFMM will be removing harassers from our social media, unfollowing, and no longer referring models, managers or agencies who have been listed as a show of support. We would rather be proved wrong later than not show our support now. .
- photo by @bluebellwooi (disclaimer: this photo is from a follower of Shit Model Management. She is not affiliated with shit model management) #shitmodelmgmt #getup #speakup#metoo #metoomovement #timesup#resist #standup #standtogether#theblacklist #modellife #model#modelling #modeling #fashionista#fashionmodel #useyourvoice#wesupportyou #wrongiswrong#editorialmodel #itgirl #tweenmodel#teenmodel #womensupportingwomen#womenempowerment #karmaisabitch#strongwomen #strongertogether
- lindseyplevyakI love the feel of your page!😊 😊
- theoneviolaOutstanding!👌💯
- jennisellan✔️✔️✔️
- sheaannephotosAstounding!😊🙌
- susie_lauri_hmuaEmpowerment!! 💪🏼🙏🏼
- indianna__14ALL agencies should follow your lead with this ! Many won't take the list seriously I fear !
- olgieshmolgie@effkate @shelbymasonxI’m sure you’ve seen.
- flysoulairAmazing!
- ambriellermodel💋💕
- modelsaremoreLegacy of #shitmodelmgmt#shitmodelmgmtblacklist #blacklist #model#photographer THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND ITS BEING TAKEN DOWN TODAY. Totally understandable but I decided to make a copy for al of you guys!
SHITMODELMGMT_REDUX as of 3/05/18
ANOTHER ANONYMOUS INSTAGRAM CALLING OUT SHITMODEL MGMT
shitmodelmgmt_reduxThat time you told 140,000 of our friends, colleagues, peers and clients we’re all rapists 💁🏼 #metoo#posttruth #gutinstinct
- 666claudiaf666Sorry but if multiple women are reporting the same man .. how do you explain that????
- shitmodelmgmt_reduxWho chaperones the chaperones? Gonna need us some big studios.
- 666claudiaf666@shitmodelmgmt_reduxthe amount of effort you’re putting into making these memes just confirms to me more that you are likely a guilty sex offender desperately trying to discredit the source out of fear.
- alectrafying^ you guys look sad trying to prove her accusations false, when it only makes you look worse. Admit to your faults and be a better person.
- _im_beth_@666claudiaf666 really super interesting to see who’s liking the images and supporting this account to . Stop bothering with the account now, giving them unwanted traffic .
- itz_maximillianoThis meme is retarded just own up to it we all have known for years about these issues don't be salty because now your powers are gone lmao 😂🖕🏼
- haley_warrClearly the person behind this account and all people liking the posts are probably the ones on the list that for sure are sec offenders. You are just making yourself look worse
- shitmodelmgmt_reduxDear model-behind-shitmodelmgmt (don’t worry, I won’t release your name yet. I have to be absolutely certain. My gut feeling isn’t enough). I couldn’t help but noticing that some of the names disappeared off the list. One of them had a star. How does that work?
- Was it because one of them was a female photographer?
- Did they manage to prove that yes, people do lie about inappropriate sexual behaviour to further their own agenda? Or that people can misread situations and intentions?
- Or was it because your gut was somehow wrong *at least three times* (your words, not mine) about the same person? And, if so, how many others are you wrong about? Forget for a moment about the ones you’re right about (and many people know you are right about at least some of them) - what about the other names you might have got wrong?
- Did you apologize? Did you do it publicly, like you did with the list? Are you big enough to still do that? What about the copies of the list that have been downloaded? How do you plan to edit those?
- Or - and this is my favourite theory - did you just remove the name praying that nobody would notice that you’re making mistakes? Because making even one mistake would surely invalidate the whole list wouldn’t it? And wouldn’t it also mean you had to acknowledge to yourself and to your 140K followers that you’re screwing up people’s lives as badly as the people you’re trying to shame, just using a different weapon? A method conveniently based on your gut and the words of strangers.
- Then the people who really are guilty would also have to have the benefit of the doubt and you end up setting this whole thing back further than when you started. Which is exactly what you’re doing. What’s that saying - the road to monumental fuckups is paved with good intentions?
- davidleslieanthonyWell said!
- themakeupmanofficialDear @shitmodelmgmt I want you to know that I reported your page to the legal department of Google, I can tell you from personal experience some of the names on your list are bogus as I’ve had long time working relationships with them ( years and years ) . I also have notified their artist that you mentioned to your page and I really hope they sue you! only a coward would post such a page and remain anonymous , you have no idea the pain your false list has caused !
- jasonactonCheck ur dms
- _im_beth_@themakeupmanofficialworking relationships are a lot different to personal ones , and even so no matter how close you are to a individual you don’t know what they are capable of. I can confirm names on this list have done what they have been accused of, from personal experience . @666claudiaf666
- alectrafying@themakeupmanofficial that literally has nothing to do with what those personal relationships do with people outside of you, do you know that? Instead of assuming these girls are lying why don’t you check out your “friends”.
- 666claudiaf666@anonymous186437990 rot
- kailakarns@themakeupmanofficial just because you didn't get harassed or assaulted doesn't mean you know what they do to people. 😡
- itz_maximilliano@anonymous186437990 your page has to be taken down immediately someone can actually die or get kidnap from this type of info. That anon page is perfect for any outsider career criminal looking for a come up to take advantage of the situation. And best of all this girl isn't shitmodels admin so she doesn't deserve this at all
- itz_maximilliano@themakeupmanofficialof course no ones trying to rape you you're not a model and of course your friend isn't gonna tell you stuff like that they could be serial killers but you think they tell all their friends that?!
- shitmodelmgmt_reduxWhat if? #trustmygut #lol #sowhat
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- aehrtWell if the allegations weren’t true then they wouldn’t feel guilty enough to do it.
- isismodel@aehrt Did that really happened tho? I didnt saw anything in the media about it
- aehrt@isismodel no nothing happened but they’re saying what if
- isismodel@aehrt 😂😂😂 That's absurd! Legally you can't work with possibilities. If you are accused of something, you have to go to court and prove you are innocent. Whoever did wrong should be sued and pay legally for that. Everyone has the right to place an accusation. Online retaliation in childish and dishonest. Things should be solved in court, not on Instagram.
- aehrt@isismodel I know it’s so sad. It’s honestly embarrassing because this person is clearly a photographer that was called out on the list and now is trying to stir up some shit
- isismodel@aehrt Probably. If he believes he os innocent just go and sue her for defamation 🙄
- aehrt@isismodel ikr😩😩
- shitmodelmgmt_reduxYou can do anything 🙏🏼 #metoo #gutinstinct
- 666claudiaf666What agenda??? How are multiple women coming forward with independent experiences of the same peice of shit photographers all wrong? What agenda are we trying to push?
- 666claudiaf666Where is Chris Hansen when you need him #tocatchapreditor
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