I purchased 5 company sage licences in 2015 - at a time when they were outright purchases, no support needed, no monthly fee. When I purchased the licenses I was led to believe they were perpetual licences, but the small print says they are for 15 years - but I accepted that, fine. The software works fine, it hasn't been updated, but I've used Sage long enough to know how to configure the VAT rates etc.

Notwithstanding the name, is this actually cloud-based software or the old desktop version? If the latter, we went past several years of not updating without incident, the original functionality was fine. The only issue was if a new client had datafile from a much newer version that wasn't backward compatible with our old version.

Then we moved to Xero and it's been much better.


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my software is not cloud based, it's PC based, but in a previous conversation with Sage, I argued my Sage was not cloud and was told, it's just the new name.

Hopefully Robbie T is correct and it will continue to work.

I do know my software logs into Sage to confirm the licence every time I open it, and even though I haven't done an update the Home page advert and this new banner appear, so clearly it is doing advertising updates.

I wonder if Sage are trying to threaten us into buying an update - but who can run the risk of hitting the cut-off to see if it works.

It appears that Sage have changed that particular message, previously it stated that, if you were making use of Sage Remote Access (previously Sage Drive) then due to changed with that, you would have to upgrade Sage.

Looking at the message that appears in Sage re the action required, it says that you need to install v26.3 or above to continue, it doesn't actually say that you have to pay for an upgrade just that you have to install an upgrade so that it something that really needs some clarification from Sage.

presumably there is a backup plan here - if sage is working now and you install on ringfenced computer not connected to the internet and change computer date back in time i dont see how sage would be able to disable your access under that circusmtance. Being honest ref old programs if you havent done any updates in the last 2 years not sure how you would be in the situation you are.

Obviously if you are taking advantage of the vat mtd capabilities of sage and you have updated for that capability you should not expect that to keep working without paying as basically they are providing support for obsolete product which you should expect to have to pay for. Ie you can use original product as intended without issue but if you want it to work for mtd vat that is soemthig completely different that you should expect to get for nowt.

Your reply makes sense - i didnt realise that specific version needed to login and verify anything on the net each time you use - so my comemnts are wide of the mark. I do access sage 50 cloud for clients of ours but i do this from our accoutants setup that i dont think is specifically tagged as being a "cloud" version - i either havent noticed that it checks with sage online (if it does) or if doesnt do that check on my version as strictly spekaing its not teh same clioud setup

In summary simply ignore my prior post.

I would agree if you have paid for perpetual licence they shouldnt take it away from you end of and i would presume sage wont if. However they may find a clever way to screw you over by granting you access to the original product they sold you only - that may not be good news if your data is updated to later version that is backward compatible.

Well that was just poor software design then. I was responsible for quite a lot of software package development pre-internet (let alone cloud) and the installation performed what I thought was a fairly common process. The exact details escape me after all these years but it was something along the lines of a checksum that was generated by reference to a combination of the licence number and the PC Bios ... thereby 'locking' the licence to that piece of hardware. Certainly re-installation on, say, a new server required a new licence number to be obtained from the supplier (for which there was no charge as part of support services) ... thereby ensuring the developer retained control of licences without limiting the purchaser in what he/she could do.

However a link to Sage eSage Help Centre -

 -kb.sage.com/portal/app/portlets/results/viewsolution.jsp?solu... says simply "We recommend you install the latest updates as soon as possible to avoid any disruption."

That's amazing progress that they have put this in an email to you! hopefully this means we don't need to worry come the end of September.. I have today switched off my wifi and I can still log in and don't get any error message (only done it once so far), my colleague cannot connect but that's because the main data is on my machine so we need the internet to connect the two together. We are on V25.1.128.0

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