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The Rogue Compendium is the collective work of our class community in Season of Discovery, primarily via conversation and log/sim analysis on Simonize's Discord. The goal of this tool is to help educate Rogues of all skill levels and elevate their performance in a raid environment.
The "đź’¦" icon emphasizes a sweaty tip that most players won't bother with, but may improve your performance if it meshes with your raid environment.
BiS Talents & Gear
BiS Talents & Gear
The DPS simulations below are assuming 60s encounters with an optimal raid environment, including pre-pull cooldown usage for snapshotting bleeds and poisons.
BEST IN SLOT (BIS)
BEST IN SLOT (BIS)
Improved Expose Armor (IEA)
Improved Expose Armor (IEA)
AREA OF EFFECT (AOE)
AREA OF EFFECT (AOE)
Consumables
Consumables
Bogling Root đź’¦
Chronoboom Displacer
Dragonbreath Chili
Elemental Sharpening Stone
Elixir of Coalesced Regret đź’¦
Elixir of Fortitude
Elixir of Greater Firepower đź’¦
Elixir of Superior Defense đź’¦
Elixir of the Mongoose
Flask of Supreme Power
Free Action Potion
Greater Arcane Elixir đź’¦
Greater Fire Protection Potion
Greater Shadow Protection Potion
Grilled Squid
Ground Scorpok Assay
Juju Might or Winterfall Firewater
Juju Power or Elixir of Giants
Limited Invulnerability Potion
Magic Resistance Potion
Mighty Troll's Blood Potion đź’¦
Mildly Irradiated Rejuvenation Potion đź’¦
Poisons
Restorative Potion
R.O.I.D.S.
Rumsey Rum Black Label
Snowball đź’¦
Target Dummy đź’¦
Thistle Tea
Buffs
Buffs
World Buffs
World Buffs
Dire Maul Tribute:
Fengus, Slip’kik, Mol’darÂ
Raid Buffs
Raid Buffs
Demonic Pact
Battle Shout
Heart of the Lion
Improved Mark of the Wild
Leader of the Pack
Strength of Air Totem [H]
Strength of Earth Totem [H] or Blessing of Might [A]
Raid Debuffs
Raid Debuffs
Curse of Recklessness
Dreamstate or Stormstrike [H]
Faerie Fire
Gift of Arthas
Improved Expose Armor
Mangle
Mark of Chaos
Occult Poison
Scorch
Tips
Tips
Improved Expose Armor
Improved Expose Armor
Do NOT take the bait of just using Sebacious Poison, as it is a MASSIVE DPS loss. Instead, do the following:
Apply Sebacious Poison to a spare OH and equip.
Open with macro below.
Apply Expose Armor manually at 5cp ONLY within 12s.
Continue refreshing EA manually at 5CP rest of the encounter.
#showtooltip Poisoned Knife
/startattack
/cast Poisoned Knife
/equipslot 17 best-oh-weaponÂ
Handling AOE
Handling AOE
While DPS is important, the priority here is to maintain Sebacious Poison and 5 stacks of Occult Poison on all mobs, a massive boost to raid DPS.
Muti/SSL → SnD → ST → AR / BF / Trink → Env → FoK spam
ST (on cd) → Env → FoK spam
Save [Thistle Tea] for when AR is down, use during FoK window while Envenom buff is up.
If another Rogue is already handling IEA/Occult, you should run SSL with Crimson Tempest for some extra damage.
Learn the simulator
Learn the simulator
While we try to provide as much information as possible, nothing will benefit you more than learning how to use the WowSims tool. It's extremely important to understand that DPS improvements are relative to your current gear, raid comp, etc.
Raid: Molten Core
Raid: Molten Core
HEAT 1
HEAT 1
No Fire Resist requirement
HEAT 2
HEAT 2
96 Fire Resist requirement
+1 piece of loot per boss
HEAT 3
HEAT 3
226 Fire Resist requirement
+1 piece of loot per boss
Extra "The Molten Core" boss
Lucifron
Lucifron
Strategy
Strategy
[Greater Shadow Protection Potion] during trash.
Single target burn boss.
Use [Restorative Potion] on curse application.
Tips
Tips
Use BiS gear, no Fire Resist is needed.
Only do this if you have an OT bringing adds away so only they get mind controlled.
Burn CDs on pull, careful of BF aggro on adds.
Boss does not require IEA (Sunder/Homunc suffice).
Magmadar
Magmadar
Strategy
Strategy
[Greater Fire Protection Potion] during trash.
Pre-pot [Magic Resistance Potion].
Single target burn boss.
Move away from fire puddles.
Tips
Tips
Burn CDs on pull.
Save Sprint to minimize downtime after Fear.Â
Gehennas
Gehennas
Strategy
Strategy
Single target burn boss.
Use [Free Action Potion] on pull.
Move out of Rain of Fire.Â
Tips
Tips
Burn CDs on pull, careful of BF aggro on adds.
Boss does not require IEA (Sunder/Homunc suffice).
Garr
Garr
Strategy
Strategy
[Greater Fire Protection Potion] & MRP.
Single target burn boss.
Use [Snowball] on every knockback.
/cast [@player] SnowballÂ
Tips
Tips
Wear 201+ Fire Resist with gear, as magic buffs can be purged. You can drop lower than this for more DPS, but risking dropping below FR requirement and taking Conflagration damage.
Ask everyone to buff as much as possible, even useless buffs like Underwater Breathing, to reduce the chance important buffs will be dispelled.
Burn CDs on pull.
Baron Geddon
Baron Geddon
Strategy
Strategy
Pre-pot [Greater Fire Protection Potion].
Single target burn boss.
Run to designated location with Living Bomb.
Run to next boss position after a couple Inferno ticks.Â
Tips
Tips
Burn 2m CDs on pull.
Spam Poisoned Knife while waiting during Inferno.
If you have 2p T1, you can also Feint and stay in during Inferno to keep uptime. Use after 3 ticks of damage.
Save Sprint for dropping Living Bomb and returning.
Always know exactly where you’re going.
Use Poisoned Knife while out.
You can opt to use Supreme flask & Petrification macro to ignore bomb for bigger uptime (sweaty/expensive).
Burn 5m CDs around 15%.
Shazzrah
Shazzrah
Strategy
Strategy
[Greater Arcane Protection Potion] during trash.
Single target burn boss.
Use a [Restoration Potion] on first curse application.
Tips
Tips
Use BiS gear, no Fire Resist is needed.
Burn CDs on pull.
Save Sprint for when boss teleports.
Use a second GAPP if your health drops low.
Boss does not require IEA (Sunder/Homunc suffice).
Sulfuron
Sulfuron
Strategy
Strategy
GFPP and GSPP during trash.
Stack adds and AoE / cleave.
If assigned, interrupt every Dark Mending on your add.
On Heat 3, Sulfuron casts a stacking AP debuff, which can remove 900-1200 AP by the end of the encounter.
Tips
Tips
One Rogue should use FoK AoE rotation in Appendix A.
If no Rogue Tank, run IEA FoK and apply Sebacious OH.
If both of above are handled by other Rogues, run the ST/CT setup for more DPS.
If on Occult duty, it’s preferable you are NOT assigned to interrupts, to ensure stacks don’t fall off.
You can opt to use Supreme flask & Petrification macro to remove AP debuff for more DPS (sweaty/expensive).
Does not require IEA (Sunder/Homunc suffice).
Golemagg
Golemagg
Strategy
Strategy
GFPP & GNPP during trash.
Single target burn boss.
Dodge falling boulders.
Tips
Tips
Burn CDs on pull.
Use another [Greater Fire Protection Potion] as your stacks get high.
Majordomo Executus
Majordomo Executus
Strategy
Strategy
GFPP & GSPP during trash.
Stack everything and AoE / cleave.
If assigned, interrupt every Dark Mending on your add.
Tips
Tips
One Rogue should use FoK AoE rotation in Appendix A.
If no Rogue Tank, run IEA FoK and apply Sebacious to OH.
If both of above are handled by other Rogues, run the ST/CT setup for more DPS.
If on Occult duty, it’s preferable you are NOT assigned to interrupts, to ensure stacks don’t fall off.
Swap to single target rotation once 2-3 adds are alive. Focus on highest HP mob.
Ragnaros
Ragnaros
Strategy
Strategy
GFPP during trash. MRP on pull.
Melee stack at assigned spot behind boss.
Stay in for Wrath of Ragnaros.
Use [Snowball] if knocked back.
Tank MUST do this as well.
When boss submerges:
Use another [GFPP].
Run to ranged stack and drop a target dummy.
Once aggro and gathered, DPS Sons to ~20% then get out and back to boss melee stack.
Tips
Tips
Burn CDs on pull.
After Wrath of Ragnaros cast, watch boss’s target. If it’s NOT a Tank, back up out of range.
The Molten Core
The Molten Core
Strategy
Strategy
Pre-Pot GFPP. MRP on pull.
Single target burn boss.
Move away from fallen meteors.
With Ash & Cinder debuffs, run to other affected player immediately.
Tips
Tips
Burn CDs on pull.
Save Sprint for either Ash & Cinder.
Meteors have a very large blast radius. Be extra safe.
Sweaty Dad Tips đź’¦
Sweaty Dad Tips đź’¦
Before each boss, swap to HAT, get moved into Healer party and have them spam rank 1 heals until 5CP while you target the boss. Move back to your group, swap back normal Rune, and pull w/ 5CP.Â
If Orc, leverage Blood Fury pre-pull.Â
Use Poisoned Knife on cooldown.
FAQs
FAQs
How can I improve my damage?
Get comfortable using the Simulator. It’s your best friend.
Is Saber Slash better than Mutilate?
Yes, by about 340 DPS for single target.
Is Felstriker bad with Focused Attacks nerfs?
No. It’s still BiS for Mutilate and the FoK AoE build. Extremely good weapon still (and may have future niche usage).
Did the spell power change to Envenom nerf poisons?
No. Poisons have never been impacted by spell power.
Which flask do I use now?
Given the goal is to get at least 226 FR requirement with as little extra as possible, so you can maximize DPS stats. Based on sims, the current single target recommendation is [Flask of Chromatic Resistance].
Why is BiS Fire Resistance so low?
The provided sims assume you are relying on Totem/Aura, Juju Ember, and Chromatic flask for single target. This is purely to determine BiS and you should adjust to meet your raid composition and strategy.Â
If CT is higher, why recommend FoK for AoE?
With Occult Poison, Rogues are exclusively the only class to bring this massive debuff for casters. As such, FoK is extremely more effective at its upkeep for AoE given it stacks to 5. For AoE, one Rogue should ALWAYS be running FoK on Occult duty. If you don’t have a Tank Rogue applying Seb w/ FoK, then Occult Rogue should run Seb on OH. If other Rogues are handling both, THEN you should run the CT AoE spec.
The FoK AOE build shows Fist weapons?
The highest DPS main hand for this build is currently a Fist, so we opt to prioritize the Fist Specialization talent. If you are using something else, use that talent instead. Also, if not using a dagger MH, swap to one when 2-3 adds alive so you can Mutilate to finish off the fight.
Which professions are BiS?
Alchemy (+~30) and Engineering (+~30).
Warriors tell me I need to Improved Expose Armor??
Yes, one Rogue in raid should run IEA, as the armor reduction is higher than any other class in the game. Preferably, this would be handled by a Rogue Tank, but falls to DPS if no other option.
Credit
Credit
The awesome Rogue community over on The Simonize Show Discord. Special shoutout to Ra and Simonize for the hard work they do.
The comfy wizard
The comfy wizard
Changelog
Changelog
08.28.2024.
08.28.2024.
Slight improvements to Saber BiS (no FR).
Tweaked gear to provide an extra 10 DPS. Props to Morocho on Simon’s Discord for contributing this improvement.
08.27.2024.
08.27.2024.
Added IEA exceptions.
Some bosses have a lower armor value and therefore do not actually require Improved Expose Armor to be talented. This is now reflected in applicable boss sections, so you can decide if you want to adjust accordingly.
08.25.2024.
08.25.2024.
Updated Saber sim values.
Rogue community made some updates to the Saber APL to make rotations more realistic and efficient, including always casting PK when it’s up and CP does not equal 5. Also updated Saber IEA sims as well as tips around Petrification cancel macros to optimize Geddon and Sulfuron.
08.23.2024.
08.23.2024.
Saber bleed fix in Sims.
A bug was found in the Simulator where SSL’s damage multiplier was not applied to its DoT. This had a substantial impact on SSL’s sim values, making it very clearly BiS over Mutilate. Bunch of changes to reflect that.
08.20.2024.
08.20.2024.
Updated CT AoE sims.
Refreshed CT AoE sim values based on CT double proc hotfix. Back to normal now.
08.17.2024.
08.17.2024.
Updated CT AoE sims and explanation of AoE priority.
Based on a finding that CT was proccing twice w/ 6p T1, sims were updated to reflect what is assumed a bug. Enjoy the DPS for now, probably fixed later. Added FAQ explaining why it’s important to have one Rogue doing FoK for AoE encounters.
08.16.2024.
08.16.2024.
Updated sims and FoK rotation.
Based on an update to sims to fix OH applies and parry/dodge for FoK, along with 10s ICD for Chili, updated sim values. Also added a section in Appendix to better explain the FoK AoE rotation. Updated spec recommendations for Sulf/Domo.
08.15.2024.
Swapped rings BiS.
Based on findings from FA nerf, BiS rings have changed and Craft is BiS now. Added FAQ around MRPs. Added BiS Saber for reference. Adjusted sim values to reflect FoK and Chili sims fixes.
08.14.2024.
Tweaked AoE Build and various fixes.
Substantial improvements to AoE FoK build to leverage 4p T0.5 and 4p T1.
08.13.2024.
Initial publish!
Shared publicly with the SoD Rogue community in The Simonize Show Discord and X.Â
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