Just wondering if you found these books very beneficial?


Also, what would level would an average child who has just turned 6 be able to get to? 


DS struggled with starting to learn to read so I'm trying to help him as much as I can so he keeps pace with the class.


He started school at age 5 (we are not in the uk). 


DS started on book 1a about 4 weeks ago and will be moving on to 4a soon. 


They are obviously very good for the common sight words - but do you think it's ok to stick with these books for now or should I be mixing it up with phonic based books. 


I'm inclined to stick to these books as it's kind of amazing to see the progress

He started school not knowing a single letter and really struggled at the start just to recognise the letters and their sounds.


He knows the first 40 jolly

phonic sounds. In school they've only done about half of the phonic sounds. I've thought him some on the evenings. So he can sound overly of words out. 


Now that we've started on the peter and jane books and it is satisfying to make progress press


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Not it's not a UK curriculum but similar.


I'm teaching him phonics and he can sound out words - but I wonder is there any harm in mainly focusing on the Peter & Jane books for a while. 


If the 100 most common sight words make up at least 50% of what he will be reading would it not benefit him hugely to learn those words by sight through the peter & jane books?


I know he will be slower reading non-peter & jane books as he will need to pause to sound out words - whereas at the moment he is reading P&J books fluently.

My dc all did P&J books when they were first learning to read at home. They all enjoyed them. I remember my not-very-good-at-concentrating ds reading the whole of 2a to me with great delight and determination. I was wriggling with boredom before he was. 


Mine used them from about the ages of just before 2yo to 3.6yo. The one who was keenest got up to about 12b I think was the top one we had.


What was good about them was that they knew that if there was a word on the page they could read it. It gave them the encouragement to look at it and work it out. And then they'd pick out the words they knew in the paper and things I was reading to great excitement.


WHat I found when they started the Biff and Chip books is they went through a lazy time where if they didn't immediately recognise the word they would hope that it was too hard for them. "Salamander" I think appears at about level 2 for example.


And when they did phonics they just seemed to work it out without much teaching, all of them had no problems at all in adding phonics as an extra way of learning to read, and were all in the top groups for phonics.


But you can get a very long way without phonics. I remember phonics clicking for me-half way through the second book of Lord of the Rings when I was 6yo. It wasn't the bulk of the book that gave me issues, it was some of the names that I struggled with working out. And suddenly realising how phonics worked.

Just a parent here, to be very clear, not a teacher. At the end of Reception, my son (end June birthday) had started to read a little (ORT level 2 maybe). My son (per his report and teacher) was doing well with Phonics (Phase 3 I think). But we found he was memorising the 1-2 lines per page ORT books and not really reading them at all. I knew that Peter and Jane were highly traditional but my Mum recommended them as she had used them to get her own three children reading 30-40 years before. I felt that the school was using an exclusive Phonics approach and wanted to balance with other reading strategies. I am sure that schools use just Phonics in line with EY curriculum and to prepare children for the Phonics screen at the end of Y1. We decided to start Peter and Jane at 1A last summer holiday. It really helped my son that each book repeated the same words over and over. I know that you need other tools to support "Look & See" but this seemed like a useful additional tool. We also changed and started to have him read each morning rather than at bedtime. We read to him then other books when he was tired at the end of the day. He would just come in our bed each morning and he would read for say 15 minutes. When he went into Y1 post summer then they moved him to L4 ORT straight away. We kept reading the ORT books from school but kept reading Peter and Jane too each morning. Can see from my notes that he was reading Ladybird 6B by mid October. We started I know on 4th August. School moved him to L5 ORT and then he jumped to L8 ORT around Xmas time from memory. He also read all the Ladybird equivalent fairy stories at each level. Enormous Turnip. Jack & Beanstalk etc etc. He read the old style versions of each book which have much more text per page. He loved it that he felt like he was then reading 'real' books/stories. We persisted and read all the way through to 12B. I would say that took us some six months and the only day we did not read was Xmas day. It is true to say at that juncture, he was good at reading Ladybird but less able on other books. So then we started looking at many other styles of writing/books. We always read what was sent from school as well - ORT scheme books. Think he moved to L9/Gold level at school around Easter and then finally Lime/L11 at end of Y1. I understand that children are all very different. But I am absolutely sure that Ladybird Jane & Peter was brilliant for my son. It also really helped him with spelling too. Some of the children (their parents comment not mine) seem to spell very phonically. Clearly just "look and see" is not the right approach. But we found alongside the teachers expertly teaching phonics then my son made really good progress with reading. We now read a lot together. Could be anything. Picture books for fun. He will look at the newspaper with his Dad. May be other approaches would have worked too but Ladybird for me and my son seemed to unlock reading and really helped his love of reading now that he actually finds that he can do it. Good luck with creating a love of reading which I honestly believe is one of the most crucial ways in which a parent can support their child

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